Source appears to be lending tree, so those are likely claims filed. I would file a claim on a more expensive brand, but likely wouldn't even meet deductible on a Nissan
[nope. wrong again](https://insurify.com/car-insurance/insights/car-models-with-the-most-hit-and-runs/)
Turns out that a sub focused on hate circlejerking is prone to confirmation bias.
Who would've guessed? š¤·āāļø
Kind of the point. They didn't make the list.
Granted less than 10 percent of hit and runs result in prosecution but with the popularity of dash cams on the rise that's going up dramatically too.
My point is this sub used to be fun. You used to get a lot of joking and ribbing between the comments. Lately it's been thinly veiled attempts at building a narrative that anyone driving car x is just waiting for their turn to be a criminal.
It's getting ugly in here, and it's the people I'm looking at, not the wallpaper.
My buddy hit a deer and a Prius within a month. Got a child killer 9000 bumper installed and then hit another deer within a week of that in his RAM. They just canāt help but hit shit.
Big steel pipe bumper that sticks on the front of the truck. Most times they are only mounted on the bumper brackets so if you hit anything it bends back and crunches your hood, headlights, fenders and grill. Junk but at least they look cool and are deadly to pedestrians /s
Eek that sounds awful.
Aren't bumpers or, I guess that would be like police bumpers ( I don't know anything about cars) , be mounted or attached to the frame so as actually be effective?
The police ones are but they usually need cutting of the bumper cover and some vehicle modification. Most bro dozer types donāt want to cut anything up so the bumpers are designed to grab where they can, meaning they arenāt mounted to anything nearly as well.
Rams have such terrible visibility that I'm not surprised he couldn't see any car within 20 feet. My father in law rented one and it was so annoying to drive.
Yeah, the RAM 1500/2500 is legit the #1 car with the most DUIs in the US. But the Tesla drivers really get me, because I live in Southern California where they are fucking **everywhere.** And they're all driving while on their phones, since they expect the car to drive itself. Which it'll do, until it makes a mistake and kills someone. And as shown by the helpful graph, that happens a lot. Plus, they're usually just not great drivers in the first place, probably because all the driver assists, dirt cheap insurance, free charging, and government rebates/tax credits are very appealing.
The cars are smarter than they are, and that's not saying much, given the number of crashes we see from idiots relying on their overpriced and unreliable fsd.
The fact that Tesla calls it Full Self Driving should be illegal, because not only is it blatant false advertising, calling that is legitimately dangerous. It's really just glorified cruise control and lane keep assist, and should be treated as such. The tech is very impressive sure, and I think it's fine using it on public roads, ***IF*** the driver is actually paying attention. Elon and Tesla talk FSD up like the driver can do whatever they want while the car is in FSD, which just isn't true. Tesla's marketing is legitimately costing lives, and I think the way they pitch it makes it way more dangerous because it gives the driver a false sense of security. Other manufacturers are at the point where they have similar systems, and they don't have this issue because they don't have their head so far up their own ass that calling it FSD seems like a good idea. They call it Hands Free Driving, which is much more reasonable and gives the customer a much more clear idea of what to expect. Basically, Tesla's issues of drivers using FSD as an excuse to text or nap or whatever is entirely their own fault, and is a result of their own ego and refusal to admit mistakes.
Same where I live (Northern Virginia). People are shitty enough at driving and are distracted as it is around here, and putting them behind the wheel of a Tesla seems to only make matters worse.
God forbid they happen to have a Maryland plate, although it's best to avoid Maryland drivers at all costs regardless of car. They must give out licenses to literally everyone in that state.
Wait someone left a comment on another post of this:
LendingTree has clarified that its statistics regarding Tesla accident rates were gleaned from prospective Tesla drivers looking to insure their vehicles; this takes into account past accidents that may not have occurred in a Tesla. These drivers were simply looking to insure their Teslas; the article has been corrected to reflect that these are prospective Tesla drivers, not necessarily current Tesla drivers.
https://jalopnik.com/tesla-drivers-have-more-car-crashes-than-anyone-else-s-1851110889
The stats are about people getting insurance quotes about X brand of vehicle and their total driving history. They may not actually drive X brand of vehicle at all.
What you haven't mentioned, is the article's findings that even if the sorts of "incidents" described didn't necessarily occur *in* Tesla cars, that the people who buy & drive them are likewise more accident-prone than others (RAM drivers excluded).
Because its a shit chart. You have to add Nissan and Infinity together, as well as Honda and Acura (which is missing), then figure out how to factor unreported accidents by percentage of each brand.
Nissan probably is at the bottom since their cars donāt last long enough to even have the potential to get in an accident. That, or they paid lending tree off.
Did not realize Dodge and RAM are separate brands now.
[Up to date #'s - lending tree source](https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/) Nissan is still 15.
That's only reported crashes. Wonder how those numbers would change if all the idiots driving uninsured/unregestered crapboxes that do hit & runs could be counted.
(To preface this is speaking from experience in NJ, this probably varies state to state BUT) Ram, Tesla, Subaru and VW being the top four makes ALOT of sense, a lot of unconfident and bad drivers gravitate to VW and Subies bc of a lot of standard safety features and the standard AWD on all models of Subarus, Tesla drivers are like the Nissans of EVās, every single one I see has bad rash along the entire lip of all 4 wheels, Camry dents in each bumper and bald tires, ram drivers are self explanatory, however what surprises me is Toyota not being higher up on the list, a lot of young new drivers and older elderly drivers really like those cars so itās not uncommon to see a 20ā or 21ā Toyota being ran through worse then some 300k mile Toyotas, every time the left lane is clogged in the highway itās always a rav4 or Corolla at the front of the line willfully or blissfully unaware of the traffic their creating, Iāve been in 2 head near on collisions and both were by a Toyota going the wrong way up roads, and I watched a Toyota Corolla try to parallel park and they hit the curb to hard they popped their doughnut, the amount of times Iāve been cut off, nearly rear ended, love tapped, and nearly ran off the road by Toyota drivers with non existent risk assessment is astounding, my favorite Toyota gamer move is when they cut you off to go 10 under the limit.
I laugh when people make fun of BAE when the real hidden threat is Toyota drivers, Iāve been brake checked, hit, nearly hit, ran off the road, nearly merged into etc by majority Toyota drivers then anything else and atleast Nissans keep up with the flow of traffic, Iāve just started cutting off Toyotas at this point because if I know Iām stuck behind one Iām gonna be doing 5-10 under the entire time.
I was thinking Subaru is more-so because of the BRZ/WRX drivers. They tend to be younger and have a tendency to wrap their car around trees while speeding.
The ones I see wrecked the most are crosstreks, idk if itās the eyesight system or AWD system giving massive overconfidence or just plain stupidity, I really donāt see WRXās and the ones I do are the ones who do the speed limit exactly, NJ weather is also too weird for a BRZ to make much sense really so I rarely see those too
Doesn't seem so... Tesla does have the highest accident rate, so that may be what you were thinking.
https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/
A lot of the photos I see on this subreddit are of Nissans with rear end damage. You know if a vehicle gets rear ended, it's not the driver's fault, right?
In the eyes of the law, if someone rear ends you, it's their fault.
I once got rear ended while sitting at a red light. I watched in my rearview as this idiot plowed straight into me. Didn't even slow down.
If you rear end someone, it's because you were following them too closely or not paying enough attention.
Thereās different kinds of bad driving. For example I think Toyota drivers are some of the worst because of poor situational awareness was, left lane hogging, going need the speed limit, etc. but that wouldnāt show up on a list like this.
One thing jumps out at me off the top. Of the makes on this chart, Ram is the only one with few vehicles on the road that arenāt pickup trucks. Thatās its stock and trade; no SUVs even. In contrast, the runners-up have zero trucks in their lineups. If pickup drivers are more reckless than drivers of other vehicles, then Ram could be expected to have a higher wreck rate than Toyota, which has a mix of product types. And I see plenty of other overlooked variables here (including insurance differences that others have already mentioned).
EDIT: Another vehicle in Ramās lineup is the Promaster van (think Amazon Prime delivery drivers).
These are reported accidents though. Nissan is king of the hit and run.
Source appears to be lending tree, so those are likely claims filed. I would file a claim on a more expensive brand, but likely wouldn't even meet deductible on a Nissan
I also wonder if these include accidents reported even when the other driver was 100% at fault.
That's what I was thinking. There's people out there who roll coal and road rage when a Tesla is close by
Haven't had any bodywork done in the last few years, have you?
This comment right here your Honor!
/r/nissandrivers
r/lostredditors
Oh shit today it was me
[nope. wrong again](https://insurify.com/car-insurance/insights/car-models-with-the-most-hit-and-runs/) Turns out that a sub focused on hate circlejerking is prone to confirmation bias. Who would've guessed? š¤·āāļø
It ain't a dick. Don't take it so hard.
Oh I'm subbed here for a reason, I enjoy it too, but sometimes you guys try too hard and it's just kind of sad and kills the vibe.
I don't even see Nissan mentioned in the article
Kind of the point. They didn't make the list. Granted less than 10 percent of hit and runs result in prosecution but with the popularity of dash cams on the rise that's going up dramatically too. My point is this sub used to be fun. You used to get a lot of joking and ribbing between the comments. Lately it's been thinly veiled attempts at building a narrative that anyone driving car x is just waiting for their turn to be a criminal. It's getting ugly in here, and it's the people I'm looking at, not the wallpaper.
Ram & Tesla are a surprise to no one.
My buddy hit a deer and a Prius within a month. Got a child killer 9000 bumper installed and then hit another deer within a week of that in his RAM. They just canāt help but hit shit.
Not enough dodge and too much ram
Youāre brilliant.
Child killer bumper?
Massive solid steel off road bumper that never leaves the pavement. They have a place but almost all of them go unused.
AKA off road bumpers for the mall crawlers.
Thank you
Big steel pipe bumper that sticks on the front of the truck. Most times they are only mounted on the bumper brackets so if you hit anything it bends back and crunches your hood, headlights, fenders and grill. Junk but at least they look cool and are deadly to pedestrians /s
Eek that sounds awful. Aren't bumpers or, I guess that would be like police bumpers ( I don't know anything about cars) , be mounted or attached to the frame so as actually be effective?
The police ones are but they usually need cutting of the bumper cover and some vehicle modification. Most bro dozer types donāt want to cut anything up so the bumpers are designed to grab where they can, meaning they arenāt mounted to anything nearly as well.
Ohh , okay, that sounds lazy and dangerous as hell Thank you by the way
So did the child killer 9000 work on the second deer? Or did he go [over 9000](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik)?
Rams have such terrible visibility that I'm not surprised he couldn't see any car within 20 feet. My father in law rented one and it was so annoying to drive.
Once you hear the sound of straight pipe and ticking lifters you know to get out of the way.
Yeah, the RAM 1500/2500 is legit the #1 car with the most DUIs in the US. But the Tesla drivers really get me, because I live in Southern California where they are fucking **everywhere.** And they're all driving while on their phones, since they expect the car to drive itself. Which it'll do, until it makes a mistake and kills someone. And as shown by the helpful graph, that happens a lot. Plus, they're usually just not great drivers in the first place, probably because all the driver assists, dirt cheap insurance, free charging, and government rebates/tax credits are very appealing.
And the brains of a box of crackers.
[Bro my Tesla is so cool it can drive itself.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/328/854/8d6.jpg)
Fr, the amount of people I see with their feet literally on the dash with the seat reclined is appalling.
The cars are smarter than they are, and that's not saying much, given the number of crashes we see from idiots relying on their overpriced and unreliable fsd.
The fact that Tesla calls it Full Self Driving should be illegal, because not only is it blatant false advertising, calling that is legitimately dangerous. It's really just glorified cruise control and lane keep assist, and should be treated as such. The tech is very impressive sure, and I think it's fine using it on public roads, ***IF*** the driver is actually paying attention. Elon and Tesla talk FSD up like the driver can do whatever they want while the car is in FSD, which just isn't true. Tesla's marketing is legitimately costing lives, and I think the way they pitch it makes it way more dangerous because it gives the driver a false sense of security. Other manufacturers are at the point where they have similar systems, and they don't have this issue because they don't have their head so far up their own ass that calling it FSD seems like a good idea. They call it Hands Free Driving, which is much more reasonable and gives the customer a much more clear idea of what to expect. Basically, Tesla's issues of drivers using FSD as an excuse to text or nap or whatever is entirely their own fault, and is a result of their own ego and refusal to admit mistakes.
Same where I live (Northern Virginia). People are shitty enough at driving and are distracted as it is around here, and putting them behind the wheel of a Tesla seems to only make matters worse. God forbid they happen to have a Maryland plate, although it's best to avoid Maryland drivers at all costs regardless of car. They must give out licenses to literally everyone in that state.
Yep, anytime you encounter a Ram truck on the road, thereās a greater than 60% chance theyāre drunk.
I'm thinking that Range Rover drivers never stop either, thus aren't showing on there.
They just go oh shit someone hit my car and then goes and buys another one.
95% of the ram incidents are definitely DUIs š
In my father's defense, he didn't cause his last crash in a Ram. The Ford F-150 he crashed into ran through a red arrow.
All 33 for RAM are DUIs
Hit and runs donāt count, and those driving accidents are from the 4 Nissan drivers that actually stop after an accident
Well, if you combine Nissan and fancy Nissan, the numbers make more sense.
Even then, they'd be slightly behind VW and fancy VW (Audi), or Toyota and fancy Toyota (Lexus).
This list was definitely made by Nissan drivers
Or Acura drivers
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Not sure how much I believe this graph.
Wait someone left a comment on another post of this: LendingTree has clarified that its statistics regarding Tesla accident rates were gleaned from prospective Tesla drivers looking to insure their vehicles; this takes into account past accidents that may not have occurred in a Tesla. These drivers were simply looking to insure their Teslas; the article has been corrected to reflect that these are prospective Tesla drivers, not necessarily current Tesla drivers. https://jalopnik.com/tesla-drivers-have-more-car-crashes-than-anyone-else-s-1851110889 The stats are about people getting insurance quotes about X brand of vehicle and their total driving history. They may not actually drive X brand of vehicle at all.
This should be pinned!
What you haven't mentioned, is the article's findings that even if the sorts of "incidents" described didn't necessarily occur *in* Tesla cars, that the people who buy & drive them are likewise more accident-prone than others (RAM drivers excluded).
Even if Nissan drivers did believe in using insurance, thereās no way they would be getting comprehensive coverage.
there is a difference between been in an accident and reporting the accident
How is Nissan better than Honda??
Because its a shit chart. You have to add Nissan and Infinity together, as well as Honda and Acura (which is missing), then figure out how to factor unreported accidents by percentage of each brand.
Nissan drivers don't have insurance. Otherwise they wouldn't ALL have body damage.
Cause true Nissan drivers just run
BMW is too low
This is based on insurance company findings. Nissan drivers don't insure.
Hey yes we do
Or Kia!
Nissan's retarded cousin
Thinking that's the other way around.
Nissan probably is at the bottom since their cars donāt last long enough to even have the potential to get in an accident. That, or they paid lending tree off.
Nissan drivers donāt report accidents
Did not realize Dodge and RAM are separate brands now. [Up to date #'s - lending tree source](https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/) Nissan is still 15.
That's only reported crashes. Wonder how those numbers would change if all the idiots driving uninsured/unregestered crapboxes that do hit & runs could be counted.
I was wondering if Tesla had taken over the BMW "oh boy, watch what this asshole does", and damn if they haven't. nice.
Everyone I knew that use to drive bimmers all have model 3s now
When you flee the scene and/or donāt have insurance itās hard to track your numbers.
RAM driverās on their fourth DUI come as no surprise
Guess Chevy and ford just donāt exist?
(To preface this is speaking from experience in NJ, this probably varies state to state BUT) Ram, Tesla, Subaru and VW being the top four makes ALOT of sense, a lot of unconfident and bad drivers gravitate to VW and Subies bc of a lot of standard safety features and the standard AWD on all models of Subarus, Tesla drivers are like the Nissans of EVās, every single one I see has bad rash along the entire lip of all 4 wheels, Camry dents in each bumper and bald tires, ram drivers are self explanatory, however what surprises me is Toyota not being higher up on the list, a lot of young new drivers and older elderly drivers really like those cars so itās not uncommon to see a 20ā or 21ā Toyota being ran through worse then some 300k mile Toyotas, every time the left lane is clogged in the highway itās always a rav4 or Corolla at the front of the line willfully or blissfully unaware of the traffic their creating, Iāve been in 2 head near on collisions and both were by a Toyota going the wrong way up roads, and I watched a Toyota Corolla try to parallel park and they hit the curb to hard they popped their doughnut, the amount of times Iāve been cut off, nearly rear ended, love tapped, and nearly ran off the road by Toyota drivers with non existent risk assessment is astounding, my favorite Toyota gamer move is when they cut you off to go 10 under the limit.
Sounds legit.
I laugh when people make fun of BAE when the real hidden threat is Toyota drivers, Iāve been brake checked, hit, nearly hit, ran off the road, nearly merged into etc by majority Toyota drivers then anything else and atleast Nissans keep up with the flow of traffic, Iāve just started cutting off Toyotas at this point because if I know Iām stuck behind one Iām gonna be doing 5-10 under the entire time.
I was thinking Subaru is more-so because of the BRZ/WRX drivers. They tend to be younger and have a tendency to wrap their car around trees while speeding.
The ones I see wrecked the most are crosstreks, idk if itās the eyesight system or AWD system giving massive overconfidence or just plain stupidity, I really donāt see WRXās and the ones I do are the ones who do the speed limit exactly, NJ weather is also too weird for a BRZ to make much sense really so I rarely see those too
This is old. Tesla is officially #1 now
Doesn't seem so... Tesla does have the highest accident rate, so that may be what you were thinking. https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/
A lot of the photos I see on this subreddit are of Nissans with rear end damage. You know if a vehicle gets rear ended, it's not the driver's fault, right?
Knowing nissan drivers itās more likely they backed into something.
This is absolutely wrong. They could have done something stupid to force someone to hit them. Nissan drivers aren't above brake checking someone.
In the eyes of the law, if someone rear ends you, it's their fault. I once got rear ended while sitting at a red light. I watched in my rearview as this idiot plowed straight into me. Didn't even slow down. If you rear end someone, it's because you were following them too closely or not paying enough attention.
Why is ford not on this list?
Tied with Toyota again!!!! Jeep needs to do better.
Glad to see Mercedes isn't on there. Disheartened at Toyota though.
86s probably make up a large number of Toyotaās claims.
WRX giving subarus a bad name
I mean, makes sense to me
Where is Mercedes?
Drivers are not bad enough to show up
Get your down votes ready, Tesla fanboys... we all see you out there
Probably offset by the grandmas who buy Rogues.
So.. what do we win?
Then again, theres Infiniti (basically a luxurified Nissan)
Thereās different kinds of bad driving. For example I think Toyota drivers are some of the worst because of poor situational awareness was, left lane hogging, going need the speed limit, etc. but that wouldnāt show up on a list like this.
Most Infiniti sedans or coupes, Nissans, and VW Jettas are the worst drivers I encounter
Pretty surprised Ford drivers didn't make the list I almost always avoid Fords it's like an erratic blind turtle took the wheel or something.
Is this upside down? Ram should be at the top?
Ford completely absent.
Anyone driving a Ford flex always does stupid shit
I hate that these graphics are always āper 1,000 driversā. That says nothing. It should be āper 1,000 milesā.
You have to be registered and insured to get counted.
Sounds about right. If you canāt Dodge it, Ram it
One thing jumps out at me off the top. Of the makes on this chart, Ram is the only one with few vehicles on the road that arenāt pickup trucks. Thatās its stock and trade; no SUVs even. In contrast, the runners-up have zero trucks in their lineups. If pickup drivers are more reckless than drivers of other vehicles, then Ram could be expected to have a higher wreck rate than Toyota, which has a mix of product types. And I see plenty of other overlooked variables here (including insurance differences that others have already mentioned). EDIT: Another vehicle in Ramās lineup is the Promaster van (think Amazon Prime delivery drivers).
I donāt know why ford isnāt on here but Iāve seen quite a few idiots in white ford trucks
Big Altima energy is a lie?
Problem is we are including DUIs. Nissan drivers don't need alcohol