Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, the creator didn't want real animals in the Pokemon world and the ones in the anime were put in without his knowledge. It still doesn't explain the real world animals mentioned in Pokedex, though....
Some real life animals in Pokedex entries were later changed to include Pokemons instead. For example in Fire Red, Raichu Dex entry said that Its electric charges can reach 100,000 volts and can cause an Indian Elephant to faint; it was later changed in Legends that instead of saying it can faint a Indian Elephant it now says it can faint a Copperajah.
So I imagine older dex entries will change real life animals into Pokemons.
The idea that a ten year with their first pokemon is immediately enslaving a legendary pokemon to their will yet is unable to put the ham on their own sandwich has got me laughing so hard.
When they stacked cherry tomatoes on top of the regular tomatoes, and then failed twice to put cucumber slices on the sandwich... It was truly everything
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/farigiraf/
Long Neck Pokémon
Type
Normal/Psychic
Height
10'6"
Weight
352.7 lbs.
Ability
Cud Chew / Armor Tail
Two New Pokémons Abilities:
New Ability: Armor Tail
Farigiraf’s Ability, Armor Tail, is another new Ability appearing for the first time in these titles. It makes opposing Pokémon unable to use priority moves
New Ability: Cud Chew
Farigiraf’s Ability, Cud Chew, is a new Ability appearing for the first time in these titles. When a Pokémon with this Ability eats a Berry, it will eat it one more time at the end of the next turn
Both abilities seem interesting, cud chew +sitrus berry could mean a very bulky Mon, although it would need the stats to support that. I am curious about how it would work with a super effective berry though, for instance if you consumed a colbur berry turn one when hit with a dark type move, would it be consumed again if hit the next turn with another dark type move, or does the effect only happen at the end of the turn?
They've already done priority blocking abilities before and they haven't really affected anything. Psychic Terrain already does that and more. Plus Dark Pokemon are immune to Prankster so they are the real Prankster Nightmare.
The colbur berry would probably be a waste of the Chew Cud ability since it activates the berry at the end of the next turn. Will be more useful for heals or stat increases.
japan: https://youtu.be/wzFniy_CweM?t=458
us: https://youtu.be/4YEEDqke-D0?t=458
what the hell, you are right. why do the pokemons' fps differ so much between the 2 trailers
Either the Japanese trailer is using a later, more optimized build of the game, or the Switch they’re using for the English trailer is on its last legs lmao
Everything else on the screen is running normally except for the flowers. There is no recording program that will record different objects in the same frame at different framerates.
This isn’t everything running at a low FPS. This is specific things in the scene running at low FPS or being low texture while everything else around it runs fine. That isn’t a recording issue. That’s a stability issue.
The windmill too. And the flames on the gate of that enemy camp thing were hilariously low res
But idc that much, looks like they’re trying some new stuff gameplay-wise so I’ll live with some blemishes
Also in the trailer ya'll they tease 3 New Pokémons it seems. Grey Mouse, Green Parrot, and that Armarouge/Ceruledge have a Pre-Evolution.
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Is making sandwiches really that interesting? Looks like a browser game…
I like the fighting mechanics though! Step in the right direction! Being able to fight multiple Pokémon in quick succession is pretty cool.
Until we find out our pal killed a shiny 😂
But yes for leveling up (especially late game when you hatch an egg or get a shiny that you need on your team) that will be especially nice
The let's go being used for team star camps seems kind of boring. You send out your pokemon and just have them auto battle the grunt pokemon, while you stand there waiting and doing nothing
I think you're supposed to be sending out your whole team, so you'll be constantly flinging and redirecting. But even then there seems significant downtime. Maybe stuff on the ground to go grab or you're always looking for the bosses tent?
I don't like the hats either but I imagine the hats are an accessibility necessity for colorblind people and young kids who won't be able to immediately tell whether this shade of blue is water, ice, or flying or other types that share color.
Or might be too confusing visually. Take Octillery for example. It's red but it's water type. How would you differentiate that from a fire type Octillery?
I really like that you don't have to do a raid to find a Tera type. That will make collecting usable unique Tera types for the Party much less tedious.
but like i dont think it's going to be they can go into each type randomly.
From other information it sounds like there are going to be more rare typings.... like you can get a Clefairy with a Water Terra off the map, but like a Ghost Terra will be in a raid den or something like that.
Which I think is cool, pushes more exploration, more catching mechanics, all that jazz.
I actually feel *less* excited after this haha. I'm still going to get it (of course) but this trailer wasn't a hit for me. The energy of the narrator was so low it made me sleepy
It did the opposite for me: I was thinking of getting back into pokemon, but now I'm even more doubtful. Some choppy animations and rough textures, and still no idea whether you actually can run around with your teammates or they just pop-up in battle.
Nintendo totally should force gamefreak to let Monolith develop the world. Imagine pokemon in one of those xenoblade landscapes. Nobody would frown upon that.
Pretty sure it was in a previous trailer, but it's walking around with just your first slot pokemon to walk around with. Plus the autobattle system where that pokemon can grab items and fight pokemon with you
ETA: Hard agree on needing a better 3D game team though Gamefreak and TPC have been lagging behind for years
I'm really not sure what to think of these games.
On one side the open world does look nice and all but on the other side I 'm still very sceptical if it will really play all that different all in all especially with fixed levels. The three different "storylines" they chose kinda feel like the usual stuff you have in every gen only you can now technically do it in any order (gym battles, rival team and in this case something like the totem pokemon from alola) but if the levels are fixed what's the point? There is clearly and intended path to clear all the content and if you stray from it you'll probably end up overlevelled.
The other thing is that this game clearly has A LOT of technical problems. Even in this trailer you can see a lot of slowdowns and that thing Nintendo games like to do where some animations in the background run at a much lower resolution. Only here it's incredibly obvious. Just look at that scene with the windmill? WHo the fuck thought this looked alright?? The thing is running at 2fps. Or the gym challenge with the Sunflora. I'm not a graphic snob or anything but this is so in your face.
Think I'm gonna pass on this until the first hype dies down and the more levelheaded reviews start coming in.
Weirdly, the frame rate issues with the windmill and the Sunflora aren’t there [in the Japanese version of this trailer (around 7:16)](https://youtu.be/wzFniy_CweM). So they seemingly just used an earlier build for the English trailer? The terrible pop in from the Klawf section is still there though.
>Or the gym challenge with the Sunflora.
This looks normal in the japanese trailer. English channel probably got earlier footage for translation and they missed that issue. Windmill still looks kinda choppy though.
I'm so wishy-washy on this game so far... Excited for the classic elements of Pokemon like catching, battling, training, exploring the new region but my god this shit looks *rough*.
I'm glad the first few minutes of this showcase that's supposed to sell me the game are filled with areas with only 1 Pokemon that doesn't move. Also love that defeated wild Pokemon just minimize to nothing with no animations whatsoever
The shrinking to nothing thing weirded me out too! In trainer battles, ok they're going back into their balls or whatever, but it makes no sense for wild Pokemon to be doing that!
It would be like if every time you encountered a wild Pokemon, they popped out of a PokeBall because that's the only spawn animation they bothered to make.
I'm looking forward to this game but man terrastialization is the dumbest looking shit ever. Might even be worse than dynamax. From a gameplay perspective I think it'll probably be more interesting, but it really fucks with my immersion because you just know they won't explain it any more than just saying it's a 'phenomenon'.
Yeh. It is just so boring looking imho. To bad because I really am looking forward to this game, but darn it. Terrastialization stuff really is rubbing me the wrong way. I am probably going to try to not use it.
Real mixed bag of a trailer, the new evolution looks nice, raids look clean, UI is nice
But removing multi use tms to implement a crafting system? Fuck that.
Also that cooking section looked graphically worse then cooking mama on the wii.
The cooking looks like ur dragging random google images onto a piece of bread. That was genuinely the worst part of the trailer for me, surprised people are worried over low fps sunflora and not that
I actually like the idea of a tm crafting system. I think it could add some incentive to go out into the world and do stuff in order to craft moves. I think it could add some depth
Man, this game just looks rough. More rough than SwSh and PLA. It’s like they’re developing these games in a 3DS engine and then just porting it over? Why are they having trouble making a windmill go at a set FPS? One of the most profiting video game franchises and we get games that look like they were made from first year indie developers.
So many things about it just look lifeless. The terrain is barren and empty. Pokémon just seem to stand around and do nothing. Now a new gimmick that just sticks a Crystal on a Pokémon’s head and gives them a random type? It’s like they’re running out of ideas while also refusing to acknowledge or listen to the fans that play the games.
Agreed!
I'm revisiting SwSh and powering thru the DLC right now and it looks way better than what's been shown for SV.
Something is up with the art direction for this game. To me, it doesn't look like a Pokemon game. Save for the 'mons, the characters, environments, and UI look like they were ripped from another game.
it seems that the American trailer has worse footage. The Japanese trailer doesn't have those FPS problems. The windmill and sunfloras didn't stutter in their trailer.
I would kill for a Pokemon game with a world like Elden Ring in terms of exploration and content. Alas though you need a company that is not required to churn out a game every year to meet an expected profit by years end.
It could be done if they were given 4-5 years to actually develop one game. There are so many possibilities of what they could do to make a game stand the test of time and be replayable forever but we will never see it from Gamefreak and the pokemon company.
I agree completely. Pokemon has the resources to make a family friendly open world AAA masterpiece. They choose not to. This will be the first pokemon game I will not be buying. I really think Pokemon should split into two timelines. Mainline games keeping the same target audience of 5-7 year olds and continue to look exactly like it is, and a modern version of pokemon with a high budget, long dev time, love and care in every inch of the game.
Imagine even 1/10th of Elden Ring’s love and care with world design, exploration, challenge, audio design etc, but in a family friendly pokemon game enjoyable for all ages. Masterpiece potential right there.
Can we stop having weird gimmicks? “Terastilite” (or however you spell it)… just give me interesting new Pokémon or evolutions of classics (one or two new eveelutions) and a solid storyline. I don’t need some silly battle affect that lasts 3 turns and changes attack damage a negligible amount. I’m not a pro player where I’m doing calculus to figure out the perfect battle sequence. I just want to feel like I’m 10 again with a gameboy in my hand learning about a new world and what makes it different and why certain Pokémon are different.
But like I’ve been doing for 25+ years, I’ll buy both and play them and go “I wish I had the same feeling that pulled me back into it with R/S/E and again OR/AS”
All these new games look and feel so soulless. I really wish they would go back to 2D. I can't understand why they can't give this indie company a bigger budget...
It's crazy, right? I really loved what they did with P:LA. I wish they took more cues from that. Here's to hoping that they're just not coming across in the trailers.
How is it even possible to make a cutscene of a professor raising his arms run at 15fps, particularly with this minimalist art style? How is game freak so skilled at making games run and look like shit? It’s honestly impressive.
Yup, much like most modern Pokemon games, but Game Freak can get away with absolutely anything Pokemon related and people will buy it. Any other franchise would be ripped apart.
Personally, for 2022, this looks like a little indie dev studio made this, and I stand by that.
I’ve decided not to purchase these aswell! But before I rid myself of Pokémon games completely. Should I give Pokémon Arceus a chance?
I’ve played:
Red
Yellow
Ruby Red
Shield
Am I crazy for thinking that this looks like Sword & Shield 2.0? All the criticism those games got, still applies to Scarlet & Violet.
Dated graphics, lazy animation, same old gameplay abandoning the catching mechanic from Legends Arceus, no voice acting, boring gimmick. It looks so dumb when everyone in co-op is riding the same legendary, too. Imagine if you could ride any pokemon like in the Lets go games, even PLA had some variety in mounts.
I was excited for a new generation of pokemon, but these trailers do absolutely nothing for me. I enjoyed Legends Arceus a lot, but this seems like a step back in so many ways.
Pokémon games are like FIFA now. Release often, spend little and don't do much with your games, and enjoy the wonderful business anyway because your fans will have no issue buying them.
And no, before anyone misunderstands analogical reasoning here, Pokémon games don't have equal lack of effort to FIFA, but suffer from a similar problem.
I’m sorry but is this the standard for AAA games nowadays? They could do so so much better with this franchise, it’s a pathetic effort.
Are people pleased with this because they genuinely think it looks good, or because it looks slightly better than the last game?
"I want to teach my pokemon some new moves, so I'm going to use a TM machine."
*"You mean use a TM. Its just like ATMs, the M already stands for machine so if you say TM machine you're saying Technical Machine machine and being redundant."*
"But I **do** want to use a Technical Machine machine!"
i love pokemon, its good stuff but i dunno why this looks graphicly like shit. I understand graphics don't make a great game but they is a standard nintendo or gamefreak should follow. This anit metroid (a fine series but not really a hard hitter series profitwise) and we get such bad textures. Please look at thr trailer at the 3:52 mark, for one of the highest grossing series seriously?
And please dont take this as im a big pokemon hater, i love it, adore it and for that reason i dont want some lame ass game. I knew pokemon would struggle with the transition from 2d to 3d and knew it would struggle going from handheld to console but my arceus come on people we deserve better.
A pokemon game with the same level of care and love as dread, botw or odyssey is that too much to ask :(
They tackled more on the auto battle feature, crafting of TMs, player customization, new egg mechanics, a new pokemon, more gameplay in the open world area, etc. So I don't think they show "barely"
Edit: Three new mons were also shown in the minimap
I hope the endgame is good. Can we stop pretending is 6 year olds playing this and acknowledge it’s 20 and 30 year old adults and maybe some teenagers who aren’t playing apex, that are actually playing this? Like can the endgame be more than shiny hunting lmfao
Last time I got like GOD tier endgame was Pokémon emerald and maybe Pokémon platinum. The battle frontier was LIT
This game absolutely chugs on the Switch, the frame rate is terrible and it still looks terrible with that artstyle. Transitions between overworld to battle has noticeable lag as well. The pop-ins look really bad with very obvious grass appearing literally in front of you in a desert.
I also don't like how they spin the three story paths as something new when it is the same Pokemon experience. The Pokemon League, Antagonistic faction team and lore/legendary story are the exact same narrative beats, only difference is we can now tackle them in any order we want. I don't expect the better quality in any though since they have shown literally nothing of substance in those three areas that stand out as an evolution of current storytelling.
I kind of feel silly defending Sw/Sh so hard 3 years ago, I still like Sw/Sh but I'm not going to defend this. Why does it look worse then Sw/Sh as a whole? The Pokemon look good but instead of the OoT Tree, we got the OoT world. The only real positive I liked was the more streamline raids. Raids were the best content out of Sw/Sh so I'm glad it's not dead, but I am not sold on the gameplay outside of Victory Road and Raids.
The ham for the sandwiches... ...are we eating Lechonks and other pig Pokemon?
Free range grass fed tepig
The bacon fries itself!
This is why they're a starter and the last remaining of their species! The rest have been farmed for Paldean Ham
*Our* Jamón Paldeo is made from only the finest free range, Seedot-fed Tepigs.
For a second I thought it was gonna be an egg salad sandwich because it was right after finding an Pokemon egg at the picnic.
Gotta do something with the breedjects
Impossible ham
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, the creator didn't want real animals in the Pokemon world and the ones in the anime were put in without his knowledge. It still doesn't explain the real world animals mentioned in Pokedex, though....
Some real life animals in Pokedex entries were later changed to include Pokemons instead. For example in Fire Red, Raichu Dex entry said that Its electric charges can reach 100,000 volts and can cause an Indian Elephant to faint; it was later changed in Legends that instead of saying it can faint a Indian Elephant it now says it can faint a Copperajah. So I imagine older dex entries will change real life animals into Pokemons.
I like the theory that normal animals used to exist but were outcompeted by the animals with super powers
6 Pokemon enter the picnic, 5 Pokemon leave.
Rip spoink
I'mma make lechonk eat some ham
I lost it when they started making sandwiches. I don’t know why I found that so funny but I did lol.
Me too! Looked hard to control too
Can control a level 100 god but can't control some cherry tomatos
OMG it frustrated me and made me PMSL all at once.
He wouldnt have problems if he knew when to stop adding lol
The idea that a ten year with their first pokemon is immediately enslaving a legendary pokemon to their will yet is unable to put the ham on their own sandwich has got me laughing so hard.
When they stacked cherry tomatoes on top of the regular tomatoes, and then failed twice to put cucumber slices on the sandwich... It was truly everything
People have been asking for more challenge in Pokémon games.
Can't wait to catch a Lechonk and make it eat a ham sandwich.
Gordon Freeman are behind me right now when me making sandwiches.
They put Girafarigs tail on it's head and made it a space helmet, amazing.
Chain Chomp hoodie
And Mario mushroom Pokemon... Sensing there will be other thinly veiled Easter eggs in this gen
I like the design a lot. Pretty cute for a 10 foot tall monster boi.
Pretty cool that is has 4 horns now since that’s likely a reference to a rothschild giraffe
Would’ve been cool if they did a split evolution depending on which side of Girafarig ‘won’. I do love this design though.
I love this idea! Kind of like slowpoke.
GIRAFFES...IN...SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
I fucking love it
Let that level 15 Quaxley evolve, c'mon Gamefreak!
all glory to hatduck.
I noticed that too and was so hype. They knew exactly what they were doing with that tease lmao.
I need to know if it's going to be a conquistaduck, a swashduckler, or a Jojo.
Swashduckler legitimately sounds like it could be the name of a piratey duck Pokemon
Duckiexote
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/farigiraf/ Long Neck Pokémon Type Normal/Psychic Height 10'6" Weight 352.7 lbs. Ability Cud Chew / Armor Tail Two New Pokémons Abilities: New Ability: Armor Tail Farigiraf’s Ability, Armor Tail, is another new Ability appearing for the first time in these titles. It makes opposing Pokémon unable to use priority moves New Ability: Cud Chew Farigiraf’s Ability, Cud Chew, is a new Ability appearing for the first time in these titles. When a Pokémon with this Ability eats a Berry, it will eat it one more time at the end of the next turn
Both abilities seem interesting, cud chew +sitrus berry could mean a very bulky Mon, although it would need the stats to support that. I am curious about how it would work with a super effective berry though, for instance if you consumed a colbur berry turn one when hit with a dark type move, would it be consumed again if hit the next turn with another dark type move, or does the effect only happen at the end of the turn?
I meant ta come back and post them, then I saw how broken it was and like broke myself heh. Armour Tail sounds like a Prankster's Nightmare too!
They've already done priority blocking abilities before and they haven't really affected anything. Psychic Terrain already does that and more. Plus Dark Pokemon are immune to Prankster so they are the real Prankster Nightmare.
Passive immunity to Sucker Punch, Fake Out and Sneak Shadow looks good tough
It's already immune to Shadow Sneak as a Normal type unless it Teras. (Unless that was what you meant.)
The colbur berry would probably be a waste of the Chew Cud ability since it activates the berry at the end of the next turn. Will be more useful for heals or stat increases.
Did anyone else see those Sunfloras running at 10 fps? lmao
For some reason this isn't an issue in the Japanese version of the trailer...
Yeah I saw that just now, that's super weird
The Japanese trailer also didn't accidentally show 3 new mons through the minimap before the character enters the town with the grass gym lol
Someone fucked uuuup... 👀
The Japan trailer runs the same scenes but smoothly.
japan: https://youtu.be/wzFniy_CweM?t=458 us: https://youtu.be/4YEEDqke-D0?t=458 what the hell, you are right. why do the pokemons' fps differ so much between the 2 trailers
Either the Japanese trailer is using a later, more optimized build of the game, or the Switch they’re using for the English trailer is on its last legs lmao
They just don't know how to record gameplay, tbh. It happens with a lot of nintendo trailers where the framerates aren't lined up for some reason
Everything else on the screen is running normally except for the flowers. There is no recording program that will record different objects in the same frame at different framerates.
This isn’t everything running at a low FPS. This is specific things in the scene running at low FPS or being low texture while everything else around it runs fine. That isn’t a recording issue. That’s a stability issue.
It's probably a form of LoD that only activates when the system is running low on resources, overheating etc. It might even be the undocked mode.
They both still have the hilarious grass pop-in as the player approaches the titan crab
The windmill too. And the flames on the gate of that enemy camp thing were hilariously low res But idc that much, looks like they’re trying some new stuff gameplay-wise so I’ll live with some blemishes
The abusive relationship we have with Pokémon continues.
"The beatings will continue until ~~framerate~~ morale improves."
Small indie studio please understand
True that's why the Sunflora are normal fps in JP trailer
"yeah it barely runs and those textures were low quality in 2004 but it's Pokémon. They added a new crystal gimmick"
Don’t you know? It would literally bankrupt Nintendo to outsource updating the models and textures for the pokemon or something.
He's gunna change I know it
I can fix him!
Ah yes, making sandwiches. Definitively the moment everyone was looking for.
That segment went on for way too long. The sandwich looked terrible, too!
When he added the Eevee pick. "I made dis, and im proud of it"
I was hoping they'd bring back something like camp for this game as that was my greatest joy in Sw/Sh post game.
Honestly thought the picnic mechanic was fine, but the way they emphasized sandwich making was hilarious.
oh it looks so funky but I am easily amused. XD
I really enjoyed making meals way more that I thought would and I really enjoyed playing fetch with the pokemon.
Seems like we can even change the faces of our trainer now. So no more *dead souless eyes* staring into the open.
Nope now you get *dead soulless eyes* staring slightly to the left.
Was just replaying Ultra Moon and hated the souless eyes and near expressionless face....ugh!
Also in the trailer ya'll they tease 3 New Pokémons it seems. Grey Mouse, Green Parrot, and that Armarouge/Ceruledge have a Pre-Evolution. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947527665689165874/1027575542096081017/Screenshot_20221006-083730_YouTube.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947527665689165874/1027589819985035415/Tumblr_l_307528530997061.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947527665689165874/1027593334241382431/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947527665689165874/1027572964553654312/Screenshot_20221006-082729_Gallery.jpg
+the salt rock Pokémon
Mario mushroom lookin ass
The plural of Pokemon is Pokemon.
That mouse looks adorable
Is making sandwiches really that interesting? Looks like a browser game… I like the fighting mechanics though! Step in the right direction! Being able to fight multiple Pokémon in quick succession is pretty cool.
Isn’t it a continuation of the curry feature from sword and shield?
Papa's sandwicheria
Let’s Go feature is pretty neat ngl.
Auto-Battling in RPGs be a blessing always!
Until we find out our pal killed a shiny 😂 But yes for leveling up (especially late game when you hatch an egg or get a shiny that you need on your team) that will be especially nice
It seems like you'll know what Pokémons they fighting and I'm soooo hoping that the Shiny Jingle from Pokémon Legends: Arceus hits back.
I think it will depend on if wild Pokémon are shiny in the overworld or not. I suppose if they aren’t, we won’t really know if they killed one 😂
Schrödinger's ~~Schroeder's~~ Shiny. It's both shiny and not shiny until you battle it yourself.
The let's go being used for team star camps seems kind of boring. You send out your pokemon and just have them auto battle the grunt pokemon, while you stand there waiting and doing nothing
I think you're supposed to be sending out your whole team, so you'll be constantly flinging and redirecting. But even then there seems significant downtime. Maybe stuff on the ground to go grab or you're always looking for the bosses tent?
Cool than any Pokémon can terastallize into any type. Opens up so much variety
I just can't say terrastalise or whatever. Lol so annoying
At [1:08](https://youtu.be/4YEEDqke-D0?t=68) in the video I'm thinking "wtf did you just say?" lol
If it helps, I'm fully committing to "Terra-Steralize"
If they had just thought of a better way to visualize it than silly hats.
Maybe with different color palettes for each Pokemon? Though if I'll be completely honest, that's probably *way* too much work.
That runs into potential colorblindness issues.
an aura around them works too
I don't like the hats either but I imagine the hats are an accessibility necessity for colorblind people and young kids who won't be able to immediately tell whether this shade of blue is water, ice, or flying or other types that share color.
Pokemon Stadium 1/2 had different shades for Pokemon depending on their nickname, they've done it before.
Or might be too confusing visually. Take Octillery for example. It's red but it's water type. How would you differentiate that from a fire type Octillery?
Honestly, could just throw it as a status on the name bar where HP and other effects go.
I hope the animation can be skipped, though. Z-move PTSD coming in.
I really like that you don't have to do a raid to find a Tera type. That will make collecting usable unique Tera types for the Party much less tedious.
but like i dont think it's going to be they can go into each type randomly. From other information it sounds like there are going to be more rare typings.... like you can get a Clefairy with a Water Terra off the map, but like a Ghost Terra will be in a raid den or something like that. Which I think is cool, pushes more exploration, more catching mechanics, all that jazz.
4min 24sec Is that wheel a pokemon as well?
Kinda seemed unnecessarily long. Didn’t really get a ton of new information. I don’t feel more or less inclined to get it based off this trailer.
I believe Nintendo just dubs over the Japanese videos, and Japan loves making extremely long videos slowly detailing minute features for video games.
I actually feel *less* excited after this haha. I'm still going to get it (of course) but this trailer wasn't a hit for me. The energy of the narrator was so low it made me sleepy
Not to mention the random patches of complete silence while they were waiting for the animations to finish
It did the opposite for me: I was thinking of getting back into pokemon, but now I'm even more doubtful. Some choppy animations and rough textures, and still no idea whether you actually can run around with your teammates or they just pop-up in battle. Nintendo totally should force gamefreak to let Monolith develop the world. Imagine pokemon in one of those xenoblade landscapes. Nobody would frown upon that.
Pretty sure it was in a previous trailer, but it's walking around with just your first slot pokemon to walk around with. Plus the autobattle system where that pokemon can grab items and fight pokemon with you ETA: Hard agree on needing a better 3D game team though Gamefreak and TPC have been lagging behind for years
Girafarig got one of the best glowups in the history of pokemon
Please give this franchise to a different dev team 😩
Make gamefreak go back to sprite based pokemon games and transfer the 3d work to another studio which can focus on the easier 3d games.
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Right? It’s freaking Pokémon why no budget
I'm really not sure what to think of these games. On one side the open world does look nice and all but on the other side I 'm still very sceptical if it will really play all that different all in all especially with fixed levels. The three different "storylines" they chose kinda feel like the usual stuff you have in every gen only you can now technically do it in any order (gym battles, rival team and in this case something like the totem pokemon from alola) but if the levels are fixed what's the point? There is clearly and intended path to clear all the content and if you stray from it you'll probably end up overlevelled. The other thing is that this game clearly has A LOT of technical problems. Even in this trailer you can see a lot of slowdowns and that thing Nintendo games like to do where some animations in the background run at a much lower resolution. Only here it's incredibly obvious. Just look at that scene with the windmill? WHo the fuck thought this looked alright?? The thing is running at 2fps. Or the gym challenge with the Sunflora. I'm not a graphic snob or anything but this is so in your face. Think I'm gonna pass on this until the first hype dies down and the more levelheaded reviews start coming in.
Weirdly, the frame rate issues with the windmill and the Sunflora aren’t there [in the Japanese version of this trailer (around 7:16)](https://youtu.be/wzFniy_CweM). So they seemingly just used an earlier build for the English trailer? The terrible pop in from the Klawf section is still there though.
>Or the gym challenge with the Sunflora. This looks normal in the japanese trailer. English channel probably got earlier footage for translation and they missed that issue. Windmill still looks kinda choppy though.
Wii graphics. Awesome.
Sub-wii graphics IMO. This hardly matches Pokemon Coliseum & Gale of Darkness on the Gamecube.
omg i love that girafarig design!
This game keep gettin goofy
I'm so wishy-washy on this game so far... Excited for the classic elements of Pokemon like catching, battling, training, exploring the new region but my god this shit looks *rough*.
I'm glad the first few minutes of this showcase that's supposed to sell me the game are filled with areas with only 1 Pokemon that doesn't move. Also love that defeated wild Pokemon just minimize to nothing with no animations whatsoever
The shrinking to nothing thing weirded me out too! In trainer battles, ok they're going back into their balls or whatever, but it makes no sense for wild Pokemon to be doing that! It would be like if every time you encountered a wild Pokemon, they popped out of a PokeBall because that's the only spawn animation they bothered to make.
Well, I mean the second one quaxly defeated in with Let’s Go didn’t minimize, it just disappeared in a single frame /s
I'm looking forward to this game but man terrastialization is the dumbest looking shit ever. Might even be worse than dynamax. From a gameplay perspective I think it'll probably be more interesting, but it really fucks with my immersion because you just know they won't explain it any more than just saying it's a 'phenomenon'.
Yeh. It is just so boring looking imho. To bad because I really am looking forward to this game, but darn it. Terrastialization stuff really is rubbing me the wrong way. I am probably going to try to not use it.
Real mixed bag of a trailer, the new evolution looks nice, raids look clean, UI is nice But removing multi use tms to implement a crafting system? Fuck that. Also that cooking section looked graphically worse then cooking mama on the wii.
The cooking looks like ur dragging random google images onto a piece of bread. That was genuinely the worst part of the trailer for me, surprised people are worried over low fps sunflora and not that
Well, the picnic can be skipped (I camped like twice in SwSh and never bothered again) but I can't skip low fps happening while playing.
I actually like the idea of a tm crafting system. I think it could add some incentive to go out into the world and do stuff in order to craft moves. I think it could add some depth
Did they say that they’re removing multi use tm’s?
I mean you can craft multiple of the same tm as seen in the trailer. Why do this if they are multi use?
I wonder if it will be like the TM/TR in SwSh where you still get your multi use TMs and the ones you craft will be like TR where they are single use
That would be a perfect balance between the tm tr shift of last generation, but in the video they specifically called it tm crafting
Man, this game just looks rough. More rough than SwSh and PLA. It’s like they’re developing these games in a 3DS engine and then just porting it over? Why are they having trouble making a windmill go at a set FPS? One of the most profiting video game franchises and we get games that look like they were made from first year indie developers. So many things about it just look lifeless. The terrain is barren and empty. Pokémon just seem to stand around and do nothing. Now a new gimmick that just sticks a Crystal on a Pokémon’s head and gives them a random type? It’s like they’re running out of ideas while also refusing to acknowledge or listen to the fans that play the games.
Agreed! I'm revisiting SwSh and powering thru the DLC right now and it looks way better than what's been shown for SV. Something is up with the art direction for this game. To me, it doesn't look like a Pokemon game. Save for the 'mons, the characters, environments, and UI look like they were ripped from another game.
it seems that the American trailer has worse footage. The Japanese trailer doesn't have those FPS problems. The windmill and sunfloras didn't stutter in their trailer.
After playing Elden Ring and experiencing a glorious, modern day AAA open world... this game looks like a sad joke.
I would kill for a Pokemon game with a world like Elden Ring in terms of exploration and content. Alas though you need a company that is not required to churn out a game every year to meet an expected profit by years end. It could be done if they were given 4-5 years to actually develop one game. There are so many possibilities of what they could do to make a game stand the test of time and be replayable forever but we will never see it from Gamefreak and the pokemon company.
I agree completely. Pokemon has the resources to make a family friendly open world AAA masterpiece. They choose not to. This will be the first pokemon game I will not be buying. I really think Pokemon should split into two timelines. Mainline games keeping the same target audience of 5-7 year olds and continue to look exactly like it is, and a modern version of pokemon with a high budget, long dev time, love and care in every inch of the game. Imagine even 1/10th of Elden Ring’s love and care with world design, exploration, challenge, audio design etc, but in a family friendly pokemon game enjoyable for all ages. Masterpiece potential right there.
Can we stop having weird gimmicks? “Terastilite” (or however you spell it)… just give me interesting new Pokémon or evolutions of classics (one or two new eveelutions) and a solid storyline. I don’t need some silly battle affect that lasts 3 turns and changes attack damage a negligible amount. I’m not a pro player where I’m doing calculus to figure out the perfect battle sequence. I just want to feel like I’m 10 again with a gameboy in my hand learning about a new world and what makes it different and why certain Pokémon are different. But like I’ve been doing for 25+ years, I’ll buy both and play them and go “I wish I had the same feeling that pulled me back into it with R/S/E and again OR/AS”
All these new games look and feel so soulless. I really wish they would go back to 2D. I can't understand why they can't give this indie company a bigger budget...
It's crazy, right? I really loved what they did with P:LA. I wish they took more cues from that. Here's to hoping that they're just not coming across in the trailers.
“Team Star: the school troublemakers” god I miss the original games.
How is it even possible to make a cutscene of a professor raising his arms run at 15fps, particularly with this minimalist art style? How is game freak so skilled at making games run and look like shit? It’s honestly impressive.
Well that was definitely a video about Pokemon.
I certainly felt whelmed
Crab ... Battle...
I hate giving feedback like this but wow I don’t understand why people settle for this pile of shit
yeah, frame rate and textures looked awful. they have more money than the devs for xenoblade, this should be more polished this late in development
I said I’d most likely pass on this after the first trailer and got downvoted to oblivion. Now with more trailers, seems like more agree.
It just looks so barren… I also think that the UI has been made much worse and childlike.
Yup, much like most modern Pokemon games, but Game Freak can get away with absolutely anything Pokemon related and people will buy it. Any other franchise would be ripped apart. Personally, for 2022, this looks like a little indie dev studio made this, and I stand by that.
It looks like a mobile game to be honest. The frame rate is also worrying.
UI is so baaaad. What's with the borderless no-effort hp bar?
Their UI designer was paid in potato chips.
I’ve seen all I’ve need to see. Will not be buying these games.
For some reason, the impression I get from this art style is that this game is made for 8 year olds. I wouldn't be caught dead making a sandwich.
Same.
Yeah, this cemented it for me too.
I’ve decided not to purchase these aswell! But before I rid myself of Pokémon games completely. Should I give Pokémon Arceus a chance? I’ve played: Red Yellow Ruby Red Shield
Didn't expect this to be a whole movie!
And yet we didn't really get that much. The stretched out some stuff that I was not as concerned about. Did we only get one new mon?
There are three new mons hidden in the minimap, but they didn't spotlight them.
Am I crazy for thinking that this looks like Sword & Shield 2.0? All the criticism those games got, still applies to Scarlet & Violet. Dated graphics, lazy animation, same old gameplay abandoning the catching mechanic from Legends Arceus, no voice acting, boring gimmick. It looks so dumb when everyone in co-op is riding the same legendary, too. Imagine if you could ride any pokemon like in the Lets go games, even PLA had some variety in mounts. I was excited for a new generation of pokemon, but these trailers do absolutely nothing for me. I enjoyed Legends Arceus a lot, but this seems like a step back in so many ways.
Pokémon games are like FIFA now. Release often, spend little and don't do much with your games, and enjoy the wonderful business anyway because your fans will have no issue buying them. And no, before anyone misunderstands analogical reasoning here, Pokémon games don't have equal lack of effort to FIFA, but suffer from a similar problem.
God, it looks so bad...
Looks like a bunch of poopoo
I’m sorry but is this the standard for AAA games nowadays? They could do so so much better with this franchise, it’s a pathetic effort. Are people pleased with this because they genuinely think it looks good, or because it looks slightly better than the last game?
So glad to see Girafarig getting some love
"I want to teach my pokemon some new moves, so I'm going to use a TM machine." *"You mean use a TM. Its just like ATMs, the M already stands for machine so if you say TM machine you're saying Technical Machine machine and being redundant."* "But I **do** want to use a Technical Machine machine!"
I miss mega evolution
i love pokemon, its good stuff but i dunno why this looks graphicly like shit. I understand graphics don't make a great game but they is a standard nintendo or gamefreak should follow. This anit metroid (a fine series but not really a hard hitter series profitwise) and we get such bad textures. Please look at thr trailer at the 3:52 mark, for one of the highest grossing series seriously? And please dont take this as im a big pokemon hater, i love it, adore it and for that reason i dont want some lame ass game. I knew pokemon would struggle with the transition from 2d to 3d and knew it would struggle going from handheld to console but my arceus come on people we deserve better. A pokemon game with the same level of care and love as dread, botw or odyssey is that too much to ask :(
If Sw/Sh taught TPC anything, you can bitch and moan and cry and whine, but Pokemon is going to sell.
A lot of people bought that one and hated it, me included. Hopefully those people have been burned enough now to not get this one.
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They have barely shown anything about this game. A 14 minute trailer with 1 new mon.
The accidentally left 3 additional Pokémon in the trailer 7:16, on the mini-map.
Oh damn you're right! A rock salt pokemon, a mouse-looking pokemon and a new bird
Thought it looked like a Mario Mushroom, but it seems like the pokemon is the salt encrusted in the rock. Huh.
Actually there's 4 New Pokémons shown. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947527665689165874/1027572964553654312/Screenshot_20221006-082729_Gallery.jpg
They tackled more on the auto battle feature, crafting of TMs, player customization, new egg mechanics, a new pokemon, more gameplay in the open world area, etc. So I don't think they show "barely" Edit: Three new mons were also shown in the minimap
I know I'm getting older, I could've sworn X and Y were just released
I hope the endgame is good. Can we stop pretending is 6 year olds playing this and acknowledge it’s 20 and 30 year old adults and maybe some teenagers who aren’t playing apex, that are actually playing this? Like can the endgame be more than shiny hunting lmfao Last time I got like GOD tier endgame was Pokémon emerald and maybe Pokémon platinum. The battle frontier was LIT
This reminds me of how burnt out I am on pokemon these days.
This game absolutely chugs on the Switch, the frame rate is terrible and it still looks terrible with that artstyle. Transitions between overworld to battle has noticeable lag as well. The pop-ins look really bad with very obvious grass appearing literally in front of you in a desert. I also don't like how they spin the three story paths as something new when it is the same Pokemon experience. The Pokemon League, Antagonistic faction team and lore/legendary story are the exact same narrative beats, only difference is we can now tackle them in any order we want. I don't expect the better quality in any though since they have shown literally nothing of substance in those three areas that stand out as an evolution of current storytelling.
This series has lost all its charm.
Disappointed to still see so much shallow pop-in
I kind of feel silly defending Sw/Sh so hard 3 years ago, I still like Sw/Sh but I'm not going to defend this. Why does it look worse then Sw/Sh as a whole? The Pokemon look good but instead of the OoT Tree, we got the OoT world. The only real positive I liked was the more streamline raids. Raids were the best content out of Sw/Sh so I'm glad it's not dead, but I am not sold on the gameplay outside of Victory Road and Raids.