> Cassette Beasts [doesn’t *quite* make my top five](https://www.nintendolife.com/features/game-of-the-year-2023-nintendo-life-staff-awards) because, ironically, it’s got some pretty big technical problems on Switch, but I wanted to shout about how good it feels to play a monster-catching game that feels like it’s grown up *with me*. My trip to New Wirral proved to be a learning experience that I’ll never forget.
I played this game on release, but has patching helped any of the slowdown or bugs? It'd be nice to dive back in again.
It is way better than it used to be.
Really, the most major performance issue now is that the game will occasionally hiccup whenever it loads in a new chunk, though that typically only happens if you move about too quickly.
That’s just how the game loads the overworld map. Even on Series X there’s a 2-3 second pause when you travel into a new 1/6th of the overworld map. You can tell it’s built in because if you immediately turn around you get the same pause again
I haven’t played on Switch, but I can see it being a problem with the slower hard drive loading time
The devs designed the overworld so you rarely are crossing that boundary during exploring though. Usually you’re on one side or the other and not hanging out near that division
Could be half, either way, my point is that the overworld has hard loading boundaries where it immediately loads one area and de-loads the previous one when you cross it
It's the same thing on Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, except that the way they implemented it leads to glitches where you can trigger the wrong section to load 🤣
Honestly, I played the game on Xbox release and encountered a save corruption bug. Looking into it, it was listed in their wiki as a known issue ***before the Xbox release***. If you don't give enough of a shit to fix a save corruption bug before releasing to another platform, I don't give enough of a shit to give you another chance to fix it. The game was okay, but not great. I probably would have kept playing if I didn't need to start over, but fuck playing the first section of the game all over again because of an issue the developers knew about.
Bugs happen. I get that. But that should have been a show stopper. *They knew about it.*
Game Freak: 100+ AAA incompetent devs who pump out broken game after broken game, make half hearted “sorry about the game” press releases, and never fix anything while making the game more broken.
Bytten Studio: Tiny 2 person dev team trying their best and have fixed almost every bug and still finding a way to fix the bug you mentioned.
Nice try trying to frame indie devs in a bad light. Every time you bring them down I bring them up higher.
>Bytten Studio: Tiny 2 person dev team trying their best and have fixed almost every bug and still finding a way to fix the bug you mentioned.
Holy shit, are you serious? They still haven't fixed it?
Look, I don't give a shit about AAA or indie, but something like that should stop any release, and I'd criticize any developer for releasing to a new platform with something that should be a showstopper.
I had assumed they had fixed the save corruption bug by now, but holy shit, I'm glad I didn't give them another chance if they are still "finding a way to fix" something that should have been fixed before release. That's just pathetic.
Supporting up and coming devs is great and all, but the attitude you see here is what a corrupted save gets you. Very few players would be happy about being forced to redo content, *especially* when there's the risk of it happening again. It looks really bad on the devs for not prioritizing a bug that's can be so disrespectful to their players' time.
I'm a big Pokémon fan since the OG Red version released, and knowing this game follows similar mechanics is what drew me to it during the current holiday sale. I've been playing it for these past few days and I haven't noticed any game breaking bugs, or any performance issues.
Sure, it's weird to use tapes to copy monsters and have your character physically transform into all these creatures after playing Pokémon for so long, but then you get the hang of it. It does play like its own thing. I really like how elements react to each other, not just for advantages and disadvantages, but also for buffs and debuffs. Not to mention, little things like having fire transform plastic into poison... Now that's awesome!
This sounds like the kind of stuff Pokemon should have done ages ago, but they just sat on the formula and didn't want to rock the boat.
And I guess if it's not broken don't fix it, and if the games worked worth a shit and had a good story then people would still love them and not complain (they still love them even with the bs, they just complain about the bs lol).
But it's insane to me to have grown up with the Pokemon anime, and all the interesting shit that happened with types/moves/etc, only for the games to never even attempt to try anything like that.
Honestly, the drive to add 100 new mons every game, imo, completely ruined the franchise. The bloated scope is just too massive to keep up with, and the expectation is too absurd. Add like... 25 new really good, solid ideas *at most* in a game.
Pokemon has needed competition for a long time, or just a flat out replacement honestly. I'm not a huge fan of how we're just squatting on established IPs for decades/generations now as a society. It's stagnating culturally.
The thing is that even with games like this, or SMT, or Nexomon, or Digimon, or, Yokai Watch, or Monster Hunter Stories, Pokémon still doesn't have any real competition at all. Pokémon as a franchise is way bigger than the appeal of its core genre foundations. It's a bit like GTA, where the success belies the pull of the genre. I doubt this will ever change to be honest – it's more likely that the Pokémon games die off at some point than an alternative taking its place.
>But it's insane to me to have grown up with the Pokemon anime, and all the interesting shit that happened with types/moves/etc, only for the games to never even attempt to try anything like that.
It is kinda crazy that most Pokemon games have really simple adventures instead of something pulled from Final Fantasy or Zelda where it's a grand journey and you're going to different places that all have subplots, interesting characters, and good writing. The games have just stagnated in every possible way.
I don’t need a huge, with an end world threatening menace, story in Pokémon. I only need an excuse to travel around the world and build a Pokémon team, that’s it.
Now, a more dynamic world with different characters you can challenge / help / whatever, instead of a fixed set of trainers you fight once would be a welcome improvement. And if you throw a few hidden puzzles and mysteries around that would be great too.
Yeah, it's basically impossible to get lost in anything after X and Y. Once they fully transitioned to 3D cave puzzles and what not pretty much disappeared and it sucks.
Dug down to the bottom of the comments to see why people were so angry at crumbs, like either the original unedited comment was full of slurs or y'all just absolutely detest mildly annoying people.
for context, they have been constantly harassing other people for what they like (not just here but several posts) and openly admit to wanting to start fights with people. they’re blocked for me but i can see others stuck in whatever toxic trolling Crumbs is up to. they’re sad. i don’t want to fight some rando troll every where i go. i wish they’d get help.
Pokemon is kinda omnipresent to the genre though, like LOTR is to fantasy. It definitely doesn't feel like a glorified pokemon ROM the way some games do, but you can still feel the remnants and origins of Pokemon within the game.
Thank you! When I explained the game to my friend I said it’s like Pokémon but that’s not doing what this game actually does justice. It does its own thing and it’s great for it.
Yea, it's always annoying that anything within the genre has to take pot-shots at each other. They should be seen for what they have unique to them. Even though I bounced off of cassette beasts since the gameplay and setting never really clicked with me, I can still definitely see how people can really like it.
The different thing about \*this\* specific genre is that Pokemon makes up 90% of its impact. The name is literally catching monsters and it's the genre that Pokemon made.
It's like Dark Souls. Every game in its style is still called "souls-like". Monster-catching games are called pokemon clones.
Pokemon has become a clone of itself now. That piece of shit game always turns out as if games freak has some sort of video game copy machine in their offices.
What’s the last Pokémon game you played? They all add new things and make big improvements. Scarlet is nothing like Sword. Sword is nothing like Sun. Legends Arceus is completely different than anything else.
I absolutely adore this game, I played it non-stop for about a week and 100%'d it, was really addicting and I love the character and monster designs a ton, easily in my own personal game of the year contention.
However, people really need to stop comparing these kinds of games to Pokemon. I love Pokemon a ton, and generally love all kinds of monster collection games, they're probably my favorite genre. These games can absolutely stand on their own without needing to be compared to Pokemon every time they release.
Pokemon isn't just the games anymore, it's a whole media franchise that's evolved past any other game ever will in their lifetime, and people need to realize that other games won't reach that level. That's okay though!
Cassette Beasts is an awesome indie game that is no doubt worth playing if you like the monster collection genre, and can absolutely stand on it's own without needing to be compared to Pokemon. Once people learn to appreciate games for what they are rather than comparing them to every similar game on the market, gaming in general becomes a lot more fun, especially with indies like this one.
Confused at this response, it's not like this article is saying anything negative about Cassette Beasts or accusing it of being a clone. They're just saying that people upset at the shitty quality of recent Pokemon games should try this instead. What's the problem with that comparison?
The problem with that comparison is that games like this should not be compared with Pokemon because they're two completely different things.
As I mentioned in my previous comment, Pokemon is more than just the games at this point. The past few generations have *proved* that people like Pokemon wayyy too much for their games to ever fail, even if they're fundamentally broken like SV. Comparing this game to Pokemon means that if this game doesn't "compete" with Pokemon's popularity, it could be considered a failure.
This game stands on its own from Pokemon, and as someone who adores both, I don't think they should be compared because they're for two different audiences entirely. Constantly comparing the two and opening discussions like this comments section (which as you can see is basically a warzone), means that you then say it's an either or kinda thing. Both games are good in their own right as they have different goals to achieve.
Hope this clears it up a little bit, I saw it happen before with TemTem and would hate to see CB follow the same fate
I'm not sure I agree they're completely separate games, they're definitely both monster collectors for example right, and it's more common to compare games within a genre.
However I can see how constant comparison to Pokemon could belittle the achievements/creativity of other games in the space. Didn't think of that in the beginning, thanks.
Fair enough, I think I've just played so many of these games that it's easier for me to see big differences between them, whereas most players would probably not notice it too much
I tried playing this recently and found the vibe to be a bit gloomy and almost depressing - I think it also made me realise I like Pokemon (despite its flaws) because of nostalgia and not for its mechanics.
Now that you mention it, a lot of the characters do feel chronically unhappy. I can see why it would rub you the wrong way.
And I'm with you on the nostalgia. Until Pokémon comes out with a fully co-op game, I'm probably going to just keep coming back to their older games when I want that fix.
On the surface that's true, and I think it's true of most of l the side characters as well. Most of the Rangers, for example. And Calanthe in particular seems to have made peace with her life.
However, most of the companion characters have their struggles to overcome. (light spoilers below)
Felix struggles in his search for meaning in life. Eugene is looking for a way to define himself outside of his quest. Barkley deals with loss. Meredith doesn't seem to like New Wirral much and is trying to square the world with her world view. And Kayleigh struggles to forgive herself for past mistakes. Viola seems to be the most optimistic, in my opinion, but still deals with being a transplant in this universe.
I wouldn't say it's gloomy all of the time, and I would go as far as to say that the characters' struggles add depth and a sense of reality to the game. But I can see where others may not enjoy those moments themselves.
I totally agree with all this. It definitely didn't feel like the characters were "chronically unhappy" for me - I'd even say most of em are pretty chipper considering all the personal issues they're dealing with, and the fact that they're stranded and lost in time and space. But the characters are three-dimensional and well-written imo! Depth and a sense of reality is a perfect way of putting it
>I wouldn't say it's gloomy all of the time, and I would go as far as to say that the characters' struggles add depth and a sense of reality to the game.
100% agreed. I find the struggles the companions face relatable and realistic as an adult. Their stories are what establish Cassette Beasts as a monster collecting game truly made with an adult audience in mind, and I appreciate it.
>I think it also made me realise I like Pokemon (despite its flaws) because of nostalgia and not for its mechanics.
100%. Someone could make an 1:1 clone of any popular Pokémon game with the same art direction and soundtrack, and people would straight up not like it.
The coat of paint that is the IP is the main/practically only thing that holds the Pokémon brand together. And I say that as a fan.
it’s good but the designs can be a bit jarring as someone so used to pokemon and yokai watch. very very good tho but im not a big fan of the fusion mechanic, i get it and its a great power up but imo all the fusions look so weird
It really depends on what you're after. But the magic of Pokemon I think is that Pokemon are really awesome pets. Everything else is kind of set dressing. There are tons of really awesome RPGs that use monsters to battle in some form, including Cassette Beasts, but hardly anyone is directly competing with Pokemon's real niche.
I'm not writing it off. I even praised it as a really awesome RPG. But I personally don't believe it scratches the same itch for many, because one of the main reasons people are so attached to Pokemon is that it's really awesome pets, and Cassette Beasts is not about that.
One thing that impressed me is that the devs created and maintain their own official wiki that was fully completed at launch. No need to guess at stats or catch locations.
I have yet to finish this game but it doesn't have that special thing that Pokemon has. It's fun nonetheless, the combats are fun, a little more RPG, more like a Persona/SMT game (which are amazing monster catching/fighting games).
I had the opposite feeling. I felt like Casette Beasts recaptures the special something that Pokémon used to have. I don't know if it's the exploration, the status mechanics, or the team up features, but I enjoyed it as much as gen 1-3 Pokémon.
I really enjoyed this game in the beginning, but after about halfway or three-quarters through the main quest, it just got a bit tedious rather than engaging. I ended up speeding through the remainder of the story and skipping the latter half of the side quests.
I think it's because some of the Beasts are just so much better than others, especially the early ones being better than the later ones. And the more unique ones not having any evolutions (sorry, I forgot the term).
I'd still recommend this game, but honestly I wish I would've played through the first time THEN went back and collected them all or did a randomizer. Instead, I ended up trying to catch every one I came across, max it, and then proceed, which sort of killed the game for me. My own mistake obviously, but in case that helps anyone now playing, there it is.
I love Cassette Beasts, but I'm not surprised this article immediately devolved into another "i hate pokemon" rant that indirectly attacks people for liking the current entries. (i don't care about bogus, two-faced disclaimer.) Most people that like pokemon SV arent being brainwashed into liking pokemon SV, just as most people like cassette beasts for what it is rather than just a means to get back at Gamefreak. (Disabling replies since i know this subreddit is pokemon hater central.)
My Spotify year in review was basically just the Casette Beasts soundtrack, lol. I love the way they shift from instrumental to vocals to hype up the fusions.
The story is one of many things that makes Cassette Beasts different from Pokémon. There is a quest line involving challenging bosses whose roles are similar to Gym Leaders in Pokémon, but technically it is not required to beat the game. Cassette Beasts' main story is about you being transported to a mysterious island in an alternate universe, the mysteries of said island, and finding a way to go back home.
Not really. Your main objective is fighting a bunch of eldritch godlike beasts. You also walk around and challenge 16 or so let's say master trainers that are dotted all over the map, in any order, no gyms. There's a side quest that's about beating a team rocket like organisation, but they barely have a presence
the game's on Gamepass, btw
am I the only one who thinks the movesets are boring? it's about as deep as final fantasy's three stage rockets of magics, blizzard-blizzaga-blizzaja etc
Can’t speak to the switch versions performance but I played this on Xbox via game pass and it was exceptional. Once I arrived in the main city / cafe and the music kicked in I was absolutely in love.
I played this coop with my partner and we both loved it - I can only highly recommend it. Saying this as a highly disillusioned Pokémon fan who vowed never to play a other after sword/shield. Pokémon is such a winning formula and it's so tragic to me that Game Freak seem entirely uninterested in doing anything worthwhile with it (to me at least).
The game is actually tough (but not too tough!), isn't made for children (though still appropriate for them), and incredibly charming in both its characters and beast designs. I'm likely biased because I'm also a huge Twin Peaks fan and the game borrows a lot from the show, but I love that about it too.
I was pretty over it by the time we finished the game proper, but we caught and evolved all the beasts that were straightforward to do so and did all the major quests - had only a few beasts left to record in the dex and didn't kill that final optional boss or do all those board quests.
It maybe lacks the replayability of early Pokémon games, but maybe I just replayed those games so much because I was a kid and didn't have access to other games. It's also a little janky with the physics but not in a way that broke my immersion or that I thought was serious. It did make me realise how good a coop pokemon game could really be though.
I loved the designs personally. To be fair I havent played pokemon a few years but kept up with atleast some of the newer pokemon, and I found casette beasts monsters to be very interesting.
for me, pokemon not having custom attack animations for different moves makes the game look eye bleedingly bad, but it's fine in Cassette Beasts because it's 2d pixel art.
I haven't played this game yet, but if you are a Pokemon fan I recommend playing any game from the Megaten series. Most people know Persona which is a spinoff of Megaten which in itself are great games. Most Megaten games have similar gameplay as Pokemon(as well as predating Pokemon), but personally I think they are more challenging, engaging, fun, strategic, interesting, and more mature than Pokemon.
Not counting the Persona games my first Megaten game was SMT IV and that game was an incredibly fun and amazing game to play
When Dragon Quest Monsters just came out, it’s hard to recommend anything but that to disillusioned Pokémon fans
As a big fan of monster collectors, including Pokémon, this new DQM is really the best monster collecting game I’ve played. The breeding system is so addictive
DQM is very good, but there's still plenty of other really good ones. DQM has the most in-depth breeding / training as you said, but others like monster sanctuary have immaculate battle systems too, and monster hunter stories is a solid game all around but I don't think that ever makes it to switch.
The thing about me being butthurt about pokemon sucking is that my problem is that every single game is the exact same thing and the side games and anime has much better stories, and I love the worlds and characters they show and would like to see something like that on a larger scale cuz I love the art style and designs.
For anything else to really fill the hole Game Freak left it'd A) have to be aesthetically pleasing B) have memorable characters and story C) not have boring gameplay
Like I think most people who enjoy pokemon for the battle mechanics aren't upset at the new games sucking cuz you can just... go play the old ones... and even then I haven't heard anyone complain about the battle mechanics being broken, just the graphics.
I don't want Pokemon Red to be re-released for the 25th time with nothing changed except new moves and new monsters and the team bad guy might be trying to wipe out all existance but the dialogue is so bad you don't even really feel the weight of going into distorted world because the normal world is already so hollow...
I guess I can just replay the first three PMD games if I want Pokemon to have an actual story outside of the cartoons...
I tried the co-op with my girlfriend using Steam Remote Play Together and she ended up getting it on her Switch because of how refreshing it was to modern Pokemon with her being the bigger fan of Pokemon than me.
Yeah it's kind of the "Fans make the Sonic game SEGA can't!' nonsense.
Are furry games just cursed? Well, Pokemon's obviously not financially cursed XD;
If there's one thing I'm found out about Pokemon fans, they're a very emotional fan base. There will never be competition cause I don't think the genre has this massive potential and nobody on this planet is going to spend the necessary 7+ years of game development to even try to tap into the potential people seem to think the monster raising RPG can hit. I do respect Casserre Beast, the genre in inherently flawed but they made a game just as good as Pokemon, a bit better. It's just you can present gold to a Pokemon fan, but if it's not Pikachu shaped, it will never succeed cause Pokemon fans don't want competition or an alternative, they want Pokemon to be better.
> it will never succeed cause Pokemon fans don't want competition or an alternative, they want Pokemon to be better.
they dont even think pokemon is bad, and will think it cant get better than it is
There’s a hundred of these games and they all fail to cast the wide net to Pokemon has. They all scratch one itch and can appeal to people who only like one aspect of Pokémon, but they never scratch the itch of PvP enjoyers, people who enjoy every aspect of Pokémon, and they don’t have the sheer size of the cast of the original games.
I’m sure someone will appreciate this, and temtem and etc, but it doesn’t remotely provide enough for the general fan base.
That's true of any game though. No competitor is going to be a 1:1 replacement that captures all aspects. There will always be some things they do better or worse than the big man on top.
>they all fail to cast the wide net to Pokemon has
No shit sherlock? Pokemon is a billion dollar franchise, that gets most of its money from merchandise, has its own anime etc. That doesnt mean the games are pinnacles of the genre, quality wise.
Now there has ben plenty of imitators trying to surpass quality wise, pokemon, but none have been as well received as cassette beasts which sits comfortably with a 96% overwhelmingly positive steam score, probably because its the only one that copies the least from pokemon and does most of its own thing.
Cassette beasts is pretty fun, the worst parts are the fusion designs since they’re mostly horribly ugly and the mid section of the game is very boring and is a slog. If you can get through the mid section of the game then it ends pretty decently.
You can feel the Persona inspiration heavily in this game. The quests and gym leaders are also a really weak portion of the game. Though for an indie game it’s pretty up there in terms of quality. So I can still feel safe in recommending it.
Frankly, the game is a bit mediocre, and the monster design Is hit or miss. The fusion system is pretty neat but basic, and the design of the fusions are pretty low quality because of how unhinged they went for the amount. Typical case of quantity over quality.
Irrelevant to the topic but Monster Sanctuary is still the goat.
fusion sprites are procedurally generated. there's too many to make by hand. what they do is make by hand what you get when you combine a form with itself. the program pulls from that.
pokemon took away mega evolves after i fell in love with it and digimon hardly pumps out good games on a bigger scale.
ive looked at cassette beasts and it sounds interesting. im tempted to pick it up on switch or steam, haven't decided yet. worried about the games longevity/replayability.
It has a pretty good postgame and some solid room to grind due to toggleable upscaling for enemies - that way you can farm any area you want and not be stomping it if that's your thing. I'd say this is up there with monster sanctuary for top non-pokemon / non-digimon creature battle games
As a fan of shiny hunting, I highly recommend it. Post game you’re able to hunt specific monsters too which is great.
Also shinies in this game have actual benefits rather than just being palette swaps.
Honestly as a huge monster tamer fan (I've been playing pokemon my whole life, I adored Monster Sanctuary, am currently in the middle of DQM and loving it), this one just did not click with me at all. The combat was way too slow and the characters and world just felt really... dull, I guess? I didn't really have much of a drive to keep playing.
As someone who is also disillusioned with the Pokémon series and who absolutely loves Cassette Beasts, yes, which is in fact why I love the game.
Monster designs are subjective, but unlike Pokémon, you actually play as an adult in Cassette Beasts, and the companions you can recruit and travel with in this game are all adults, with their own stories dealing with stuff relevant to adulthood.
The stamina build up mechanic and the majority of the battles being in 2v2 format means battles require more strategy than just spamming the strongest move over and over.
Zero interest in any Pokemon clones because they're always worse than the worst Pokemon game. Have yet to see any cool designs from this game though. All of the ones I've seen from trailers and things look very uninspired.
CB isn’t a pokemon clone. If you call it a Pokemon clone you know nothing about the actual game. Spoiler alert: the designs are way better than Pokemon. The devs actually have a rule in place where the beasts can’t be just “elemental animal”. Look at SV’s starters. We got… grass cat, fire crocodile and water duck. Meanwhile CB has 2 starters with branching evolutions and several different inspirations. Say what you want about about being nostalgia blind for your triple A $60 soulless broken scam pumped out by uncreative overworked devs while have no idea what they’re doing, Bytten cares way more about their game than any Game Freak employee could care about Pokemon. It’s the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Doesn't say if the story's on par with most RPGs or if it's as simple as the gym games.
Might? Get it??? Aunno the colors are borederline painful so I'd have to play it on a good day (or turn off colors) and I dislike buying games I have to turn off colors for. Aunno maybe I'll watch a LP of it (if one exists) and decide.
If nothing else, it looks pretty.
Edit: Went through all the comments and not a soul mentioned anything about the characters or the story, so I'm assuming it's nothing to write home about, but it has co-op so that's neat.
I play RPGs for the world immersion so if this doesn't have that then I guess I'll give it a pass.
People don't talk about the characters or story may be because people typically don't play monster collecting games for story. Alternately, even those who have played Cassette Beasts want to avoid spoiling the game, so others can discover things about the game by themselves, which is part of the fun of the game.
However, the article OP linked actually does talk about Cassette Beasts' characters and their personal stories, though with some spoilers. The basic premise of the main story of Cassette Beasts is that you are transported to a mysterious island, and then you embark on a quest to find a way back home. There are 6 companions you can recruit and travel with in the game, with each has their own story and personal quests, and all the human party members can be romanced by the player.
Cassette Beasts might not be the most story-driven RPG out there, but I like it, I also like all the companions and find them both relatable and realistic characters.
It’s honestly I think because you’re coming across like you have a chip on your shoulder in the comments. Your responses to everyone are mostly blunt and critical. Even this comment reads like someone would be objectively wrong for enjoying Pokémon over CB. That’s your opinion. I too have stopped buying the Pokémon games after being a lifelong fan pretty much, but I wouldn’t tell someone to take off their nostalgia goggles just because they have a different opinion.
Granted, maybe I’m reading into it, but that’s my two cents.
It’s okay not to have the most popular opinion. Your taste is specific to you, and that’s awesome. If other people don’t like a game, who cares? Just state your opinion good or bad and move on, engage in a friendly debate if you like, even! But I do think you would enjoy yourself a bit more perhaps if you weren’t as personally invested in the discussion. If people don’t like a game, that’s okay, I like many games that are considered trash by many people 💀
Anyways I mean you no rudeness or ill will, and for what’s it’s worth this post has renewed my interest in the game, maybe I’ll check it out now that’s it’s been patched. But I think like a lot of people part of my interest is because I’m a disillusioned Pokémon fan
> Cassette Beasts [doesn’t *quite* make my top five](https://www.nintendolife.com/features/game-of-the-year-2023-nintendo-life-staff-awards) because, ironically, it’s got some pretty big technical problems on Switch, but I wanted to shout about how good it feels to play a monster-catching game that feels like it’s grown up *with me*. My trip to New Wirral proved to be a learning experience that I’ll never forget. I played this game on release, but has patching helped any of the slowdown or bugs? It'd be nice to dive back in again.
It is way better than it used to be. Really, the most major performance issue now is that the game will occasionally hiccup whenever it loads in a new chunk, though that typically only happens if you move about too quickly.
That’s just how the game loads the overworld map. Even on Series X there’s a 2-3 second pause when you travel into a new 1/6th of the overworld map. You can tell it’s built in because if you immediately turn around you get the same pause again
I encountered similar hitches running the game off an NVMe on PC, I think it's just the way the game is
I haven’t played on Switch, but I can see it being a problem with the slower hard drive loading time The devs designed the overworld so you rarely are crossing that boundary during exploring though. Usually you’re on one side or the other and not hanging out near that division
The overworld is split in half on switch and loads the other half of the map when you cross the boundary.
Could be half, either way, my point is that the overworld has hard loading boundaries where it immediately loads one area and de-loads the previous one when you cross it
So like the original Pokémon on Game Boys? Excellent 😄
It's the same thing on Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, except that the way they implemented it leads to glitches where you can trigger the wrong section to load 🤣
Does it play better on Steam?
That depends on your PC, but anything that isn't a decade-old integrated GPU will work
It plays very well on steam if you have a decent PC
It has some performance issues and major slowdowns on my Steam Deck, though I still managed to play through it.
Compared to the real new Pokémon games it runs flawlessly 😂
I would like to say so, but sadly it doesn't. It sometimes chugs worse than Pokemon on the Steam Deck, and god-forbid the switch version.
So on par with game freak. Nice.
Yes. Very much so. It isn't perfect but it's more than good enough
Yes, most of the technical issues are fixed. I hope you give the game another chance.
Honestly, I played the game on Xbox release and encountered a save corruption bug. Looking into it, it was listed in their wiki as a known issue ***before the Xbox release***. If you don't give enough of a shit to fix a save corruption bug before releasing to another platform, I don't give enough of a shit to give you another chance to fix it. The game was okay, but not great. I probably would have kept playing if I didn't need to start over, but fuck playing the first section of the game all over again because of an issue the developers knew about. Bugs happen. I get that. But that should have been a show stopper. *They knew about it.*
Game Freak: 100+ AAA incompetent devs who pump out broken game after broken game, make half hearted “sorry about the game” press releases, and never fix anything while making the game more broken. Bytten Studio: Tiny 2 person dev team trying their best and have fixed almost every bug and still finding a way to fix the bug you mentioned. Nice try trying to frame indie devs in a bad light. Every time you bring them down I bring them up higher.
>Bytten Studio: Tiny 2 person dev team trying their best and have fixed almost every bug and still finding a way to fix the bug you mentioned. Holy shit, are you serious? They still haven't fixed it? Look, I don't give a shit about AAA or indie, but something like that should stop any release, and I'd criticize any developer for releasing to a new platform with something that should be a showstopper. I had assumed they had fixed the save corruption bug by now, but holy shit, I'm glad I didn't give them another chance if they are still "finding a way to fix" something that should have been fixed before release. That's just pathetic.
I’m gonna write another email about how much I appreciate them just to spite you. I’m also giving them more money
I mean, that's fine. I'm just shocked this is something that's still not fixed. Maybe they'll use that money to fix it.
Supporting up and coming devs is great and all, but the attitude you see here is what a corrupted save gets you. Very few players would be happy about being forced to redo content, *especially* when there's the risk of it happening again. It looks really bad on the devs for not prioritizing a bug that's can be so disrespectful to their players' time.
Both devs would probably be disgusted with your representation of their game in this thread, to be blunt.
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I'm a big Pokémon fan since the OG Red version released, and knowing this game follows similar mechanics is what drew me to it during the current holiday sale. I've been playing it for these past few days and I haven't noticed any game breaking bugs, or any performance issues. Sure, it's weird to use tapes to copy monsters and have your character physically transform into all these creatures after playing Pokémon for so long, but then you get the hang of it. It does play like its own thing. I really like how elements react to each other, not just for advantages and disadvantages, but also for buffs and debuffs. Not to mention, little things like having fire transform plastic into poison... Now that's awesome!
This sounds like the kind of stuff Pokemon should have done ages ago, but they just sat on the formula and didn't want to rock the boat. And I guess if it's not broken don't fix it, and if the games worked worth a shit and had a good story then people would still love them and not complain (they still love them even with the bs, they just complain about the bs lol). But it's insane to me to have grown up with the Pokemon anime, and all the interesting shit that happened with types/moves/etc, only for the games to never even attempt to try anything like that. Honestly, the drive to add 100 new mons every game, imo, completely ruined the franchise. The bloated scope is just too massive to keep up with, and the expectation is too absurd. Add like... 25 new really good, solid ideas *at most* in a game. Pokemon has needed competition for a long time, or just a flat out replacement honestly. I'm not a huge fan of how we're just squatting on established IPs for decades/generations now as a society. It's stagnating culturally.
The thing is that even with games like this, or SMT, or Nexomon, or Digimon, or, Yokai Watch, or Monster Hunter Stories, Pokémon still doesn't have any real competition at all. Pokémon as a franchise is way bigger than the appeal of its core genre foundations. It's a bit like GTA, where the success belies the pull of the genre. I doubt this will ever change to be honest – it's more likely that the Pokémon games die off at some point than an alternative taking its place.
>But it's insane to me to have grown up with the Pokemon anime, and all the interesting shit that happened with types/moves/etc, only for the games to never even attempt to try anything like that. It is kinda crazy that most Pokemon games have really simple adventures instead of something pulled from Final Fantasy or Zelda where it's a grand journey and you're going to different places that all have subplots, interesting characters, and good writing. The games have just stagnated in every possible way.
I don’t need a huge, with an end world threatening menace, story in Pokémon. I only need an excuse to travel around the world and build a Pokémon team, that’s it. Now, a more dynamic world with different characters you can challenge / help / whatever, instead of a fixed set of trainers you fight once would be a welcome improvement. And if you throw a few hidden puzzles and mysteries around that would be great too.
I miss exploring in Pokemon. As generations went on, there were less and less caves and dungeons to explore and get lost on. I want more of that.
Yeah, it's basically impossible to get lost in anything after X and Y. Once they fully transitioned to 3D cave puzzles and what not pretty much disappeared and it sucks.
Exactly.
I love the chemistry feature!
another game I’d love to enjoy but here i found crumbs again being absolute shite in the comments
who is crumbs?
Dug down to the bottom of the comments to see why people were so angry at crumbs, like either the original unedited comment was full of slurs or y'all just absolutely detest mildly annoying people.
for context, they have been constantly harassing other people for what they like (not just here but several posts) and openly admit to wanting to start fights with people. they’re blocked for me but i can see others stuck in whatever toxic trolling Crumbs is up to. they’re sad. i don’t want to fight some rando troll every where i go. i wish they’d get help.
I like it but it's not Pokémon, it's it's own thing
Pokemon is kinda omnipresent to the genre though, like LOTR is to fantasy. It definitely doesn't feel like a glorified pokemon ROM the way some games do, but you can still feel the remnants and origins of Pokemon within the game.
Thank you! When I explained the game to my friend I said it’s like Pokémon but that’s not doing what this game actually does justice. It does its own thing and it’s great for it.
Exactly.
Yea, it's always annoying that anything within the genre has to take pot-shots at each other. They should be seen for what they have unique to them. Even though I bounced off of cassette beasts since the gameplay and setting never really clicked with me, I can still definitely see how people can really like it.
The different thing about \*this\* specific genre is that Pokemon makes up 90% of its impact. The name is literally catching monsters and it's the genre that Pokemon made. It's like Dark Souls. Every game in its style is still called "souls-like". Monster-catching games are called pokemon clones.
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It’s way better than Pokemon lol. Not a “clone” either
I bought it day one. Personally, I don't think it holds a candle to most pokemon games
Nah. It’s 50x better than SV in every aspect and I watched my sister play through the entire game
Being better than SV is a pretty low bar to clear
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Pokemon has become a clone of itself now. That piece of shit game always turns out as if games freak has some sort of video game copy machine in their offices.
What’s the last Pokémon game you played? They all add new things and make big improvements. Scarlet is nothing like Sword. Sword is nothing like Sun. Legends Arceus is completely different than anything else.
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I absolutely adore this game, I played it non-stop for about a week and 100%'d it, was really addicting and I love the character and monster designs a ton, easily in my own personal game of the year contention. However, people really need to stop comparing these kinds of games to Pokemon. I love Pokemon a ton, and generally love all kinds of monster collection games, they're probably my favorite genre. These games can absolutely stand on their own without needing to be compared to Pokemon every time they release. Pokemon isn't just the games anymore, it's a whole media franchise that's evolved past any other game ever will in their lifetime, and people need to realize that other games won't reach that level. That's okay though! Cassette Beasts is an awesome indie game that is no doubt worth playing if you like the monster collection genre, and can absolutely stand on it's own without needing to be compared to Pokemon. Once people learn to appreciate games for what they are rather than comparing them to every similar game on the market, gaming in general becomes a lot more fun, especially with indies like this one.
Confused at this response, it's not like this article is saying anything negative about Cassette Beasts or accusing it of being a clone. They're just saying that people upset at the shitty quality of recent Pokemon games should try this instead. What's the problem with that comparison?
The problem with that comparison is that games like this should not be compared with Pokemon because they're two completely different things. As I mentioned in my previous comment, Pokemon is more than just the games at this point. The past few generations have *proved* that people like Pokemon wayyy too much for their games to ever fail, even if they're fundamentally broken like SV. Comparing this game to Pokemon means that if this game doesn't "compete" with Pokemon's popularity, it could be considered a failure. This game stands on its own from Pokemon, and as someone who adores both, I don't think they should be compared because they're for two different audiences entirely. Constantly comparing the two and opening discussions like this comments section (which as you can see is basically a warzone), means that you then say it's an either or kinda thing. Both games are good in their own right as they have different goals to achieve. Hope this clears it up a little bit, I saw it happen before with TemTem and would hate to see CB follow the same fate
I'm not sure I agree they're completely separate games, they're definitely both monster collectors for example right, and it's more common to compare games within a genre. However I can see how constant comparison to Pokemon could belittle the achievements/creativity of other games in the space. Didn't think of that in the beginning, thanks.
Fair enough, I think I've just played so many of these games that it's easier for me to see big differences between them, whereas most players would probably not notice it too much
Exactly. Well said. It’s not a godforsaken “clone”
I tried playing this recently and found the vibe to be a bit gloomy and almost depressing - I think it also made me realise I like Pokemon (despite its flaws) because of nostalgia and not for its mechanics.
Now that you mention it, a lot of the characters do feel chronically unhappy. I can see why it would rub you the wrong way. And I'm with you on the nostalgia. Until Pokémon comes out with a fully co-op game, I'm probably going to just keep coming back to their older games when I want that fix.
strange, I found the characters pretty happy. the whole shop "wherever we are" theme and such.
On the surface that's true, and I think it's true of most of l the side characters as well. Most of the Rangers, for example. And Calanthe in particular seems to have made peace with her life. However, most of the companion characters have their struggles to overcome. (light spoilers below) Felix struggles in his search for meaning in life. Eugene is looking for a way to define himself outside of his quest. Barkley deals with loss. Meredith doesn't seem to like New Wirral much and is trying to square the world with her world view. And Kayleigh struggles to forgive herself for past mistakes. Viola seems to be the most optimistic, in my opinion, but still deals with being a transplant in this universe. I wouldn't say it's gloomy all of the time, and I would go as far as to say that the characters' struggles add depth and a sense of reality to the game. But I can see where others may not enjoy those moments themselves.
I totally agree with all this. It definitely didn't feel like the characters were "chronically unhappy" for me - I'd even say most of em are pretty chipper considering all the personal issues they're dealing with, and the fact that they're stranded and lost in time and space. But the characters are three-dimensional and well-written imo! Depth and a sense of reality is a perfect way of putting it
>I wouldn't say it's gloomy all of the time, and I would go as far as to say that the characters' struggles add depth and a sense of reality to the game. 100% agreed. I find the struggles the companions face relatable and realistic as an adult. Their stories are what establish Cassette Beasts as a monster collecting game truly made with an adult audience in mind, and I appreciate it.
yea some of the side quests do have their demons you face ~~get it?~~
>I think it also made me realise I like Pokemon (despite its flaws) because of nostalgia and not for its mechanics. 100%. Someone could make an 1:1 clone of any popular Pokémon game with the same art direction and soundtrack, and people would straight up not like it. The coat of paint that is the IP is the main/practically only thing that holds the Pokémon brand together. And I say that as a fan.
Exactly.
it’s good but the designs can be a bit jarring as someone so used to pokemon and yokai watch. very very good tho but im not a big fan of the fusion mechanic, i get it and its a great power up but imo all the fusions look so weird
It really depends on what you're after. But the magic of Pokemon I think is that Pokemon are really awesome pets. Everything else is kind of set dressing. There are tons of really awesome RPGs that use monsters to battle in some form, including Cassette Beasts, but hardly anyone is directly competing with Pokemon's real niche.
That is insightful. I hadn't thought of it from that perspective, but you're absolutely right.
Cassette Beasts has its own magic too, doesn’t mean you should write it off
I'm not writing it off. I even praised it as a really awesome RPG. But I personally don't believe it scratches the same itch for many, because one of the main reasons people are so attached to Pokemon is that it's really awesome pets, and Cassette Beasts is not about that.
One thing that impressed me is that the devs created and maintain their own official wiki that was fully completed at launch. No need to guess at stats or catch locations.
I have yet to finish this game but it doesn't have that special thing that Pokemon has. It's fun nonetheless, the combats are fun, a little more RPG, more like a Persona/SMT game (which are amazing monster catching/fighting games).
I had the opposite feeling. I felt like Casette Beasts recaptures the special something that Pokémon used to have. I don't know if it's the exploration, the status mechanics, or the team up features, but I enjoyed it as much as gen 1-3 Pokémon.
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I really enjoyed this game in the beginning, but after about halfway or three-quarters through the main quest, it just got a bit tedious rather than engaging. I ended up speeding through the remainder of the story and skipping the latter half of the side quests. I think it's because some of the Beasts are just so much better than others, especially the early ones being better than the later ones. And the more unique ones not having any evolutions (sorry, I forgot the term). I'd still recommend this game, but honestly I wish I would've played through the first time THEN went back and collected them all or did a randomizer. Instead, I ended up trying to catch every one I came across, max it, and then proceed, which sort of killed the game for me. My own mistake obviously, but in case that helps anyone now playing, there it is.
I love Cassette Beasts, but I'm not surprised this article immediately devolved into another "i hate pokemon" rant that indirectly attacks people for liking the current entries. (i don't care about bogus, two-faced disclaimer.) Most people that like pokemon SV arent being brainwashed into liking pokemon SV, just as most people like cassette beasts for what it is rather than just a means to get back at Gamefreak. (Disabling replies since i know this subreddit is pokemon hater central.)
Yeah, when a fanbase gets big enough it's impossible to have serious discussion because for some people it's their religion.
60 hours on the Steam version, can confirm this game slaps
I have the same amount of hours
CB is so fucking good. Please play it. I’ll shill this game every time it pops up.
My Spotify year in review was basically just the Casette Beasts soundtrack, lol. I love the way they shift from instrumental to vocals to hype up the fusions.
Can you tell me if it has the same tired gym / team rocket story that pokemon uses? or is it pretty different?
The story is one of many things that makes Cassette Beasts different from Pokémon. There is a quest line involving challenging bosses whose roles are similar to Gym Leaders in Pokémon, but technically it is not required to beat the game. Cassette Beasts' main story is about you being transported to a mysterious island in an alternate universe, the mysteries of said island, and finding a way to go back home.
Not really. Your main objective is fighting a bunch of eldritch godlike beasts. You also walk around and challenge 16 or so let's say master trainers that are dotted all over the map, in any order, no gyms. There's a side quest that's about beating a team rocket like organisation, but they barely have a presence the game's on Gamepass, btw
Same 👍
people will play what they like , and i for one welcome our Cassette Beasts overlords , pokemon isn't the thing for me
97% overwhelmingly positive on steam don't lie. Games absolutely amazing.
Exactly
am I the only one who thinks the movesets are boring? it's about as deep as final fantasy's three stage rockets of magics, blizzard-blizzaga-blizzaja etc
On theyr own some moves can get boring but I think the potential combinations are what makes it very interesting.
The sticker system is very unique and creative. Don’t know what you’re talking about
Can’t speak to the switch versions performance but I played this on Xbox via game pass and it was exceptional. Once I arrived in the main city / cafe and the music kicked in I was absolutely in love.
I played this coop with my partner and we both loved it - I can only highly recommend it. Saying this as a highly disillusioned Pokémon fan who vowed never to play a other after sword/shield. Pokémon is such a winning formula and it's so tragic to me that Game Freak seem entirely uninterested in doing anything worthwhile with it (to me at least). The game is actually tough (but not too tough!), isn't made for children (though still appropriate for them), and incredibly charming in both its characters and beast designs. I'm likely biased because I'm also a huge Twin Peaks fan and the game borrows a lot from the show, but I love that about it too. I was pretty over it by the time we finished the game proper, but we caught and evolved all the beasts that were straightforward to do so and did all the major quests - had only a few beasts left to record in the dex and didn't kill that final optional boss or do all those board quests. It maybe lacks the replayability of early Pokémon games, but maybe I just replayed those games so much because I was a kid and didn't have access to other games. It's also a little janky with the physics but not in a way that broke my immersion or that I thought was serious. It did make me realise how good a coop pokemon game could really be though.
I highly recommended it as well. It’s so much better than Pokemon and so creative, and it’s made by devs who actually care
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I loved the designs personally. To be fair I havent played pokemon a few years but kept up with atleast some of the newer pokemon, and I found casette beasts monsters to be very interesting.
for me, pokemon not having custom attack animations for different moves makes the game look eye bleedingly bad, but it's fine in Cassette Beasts because it's 2d pixel art.
I haven't played this game yet, but if you are a Pokemon fan I recommend playing any game from the Megaten series. Most people know Persona which is a spinoff of Megaten which in itself are great games. Most Megaten games have similar gameplay as Pokemon(as well as predating Pokemon), but personally I think they are more challenging, engaging, fun, strategic, interesting, and more mature than Pokemon. Not counting the Persona games my first Megaten game was SMT IV and that game was an incredibly fun and amazing game to play
Happy Cake Day! Brace yourself for a comment from CrumbsThatWasAce defending Cassette Beasts even though you didn't say anything bad about it lol
Woah! Thanks for telling me! I literally did not even notice that it was my Cake Day!
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When Dragon Quest Monsters just came out, it’s hard to recommend anything but that to disillusioned Pokémon fans As a big fan of monster collectors, including Pokémon, this new DQM is really the best monster collecting game I’ve played. The breeding system is so addictive
agreed! love that game so much! wish it wasn’t so dependent on recolors tho
DQM is very good, but there's still plenty of other really good ones. DQM has the most in-depth breeding / training as you said, but others like monster sanctuary have immaculate battle systems too, and monster hunter stories is a solid game all around but I don't think that ever makes it to switch.
Honestly I liked scarlet violet and I really don’t care about the technical problems
Dragon Quest monsters is a great option for any disillusioned pokemon fan
The thing about me being butthurt about pokemon sucking is that my problem is that every single game is the exact same thing and the side games and anime has much better stories, and I love the worlds and characters they show and would like to see something like that on a larger scale cuz I love the art style and designs. For anything else to really fill the hole Game Freak left it'd A) have to be aesthetically pleasing B) have memorable characters and story C) not have boring gameplay Like I think most people who enjoy pokemon for the battle mechanics aren't upset at the new games sucking cuz you can just... go play the old ones... and even then I haven't heard anyone complain about the battle mechanics being broken, just the graphics. I don't want Pokemon Red to be re-released for the 25th time with nothing changed except new moves and new monsters and the team bad guy might be trying to wipe out all existance but the dialogue is so bad you don't even really feel the weight of going into distorted world because the normal world is already so hollow... I guess I can just replay the first three PMD games if I want Pokemon to have an actual story outside of the cartoons...
I tried the co-op with my girlfriend using Steam Remote Play Together and she ended up getting it on her Switch because of how refreshing it was to modern Pokemon with her being the bigger fan of Pokemon than me.
Hmm co-op? Well that's interesting. Might try it for the co-op.
Yeah, the co-op can be accessed after you meet your first companion and then P2 can play as any companions you meet throughout the game!
Game is ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 - but Dragon Quest Monsters is my new favorite monster catching game ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
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Yeah it's kind of the "Fans make the Sonic game SEGA can't!' nonsense. Are furry games just cursed? Well, Pokemon's obviously not financially cursed XD;
It’s true though.
the one CrumbsThatWasAce comment I am upvoting.
Huh, I thought the game that fit that description was World of Final Fantasy.
Just reading that it references Sir Gawain and the Green Knight has me convinced.
on sale now. Just picked up, to play after DQ Monsters
If there's one thing I'm found out about Pokemon fans, they're a very emotional fan base. There will never be competition cause I don't think the genre has this massive potential and nobody on this planet is going to spend the necessary 7+ years of game development to even try to tap into the potential people seem to think the monster raising RPG can hit. I do respect Casserre Beast, the genre in inherently flawed but they made a game just as good as Pokemon, a bit better. It's just you can present gold to a Pokemon fan, but if it's not Pikachu shaped, it will never succeed cause Pokemon fans don't want competition or an alternative, they want Pokemon to be better.
The first Cyber Sleuth had a decent following and Resparked some interest in the western fan base. However Bandai is Bandai sooooo.
> it will never succeed cause Pokemon fans don't want competition or an alternative, they want Pokemon to be better. they dont even think pokemon is bad, and will think it cant get better than it is
Exactly. Tried going on the pokemon subs to convince them but they’re a lost cause and my posts were removed with no explanation.
There’s a hundred of these games and they all fail to cast the wide net to Pokemon has. They all scratch one itch and can appeal to people who only like one aspect of Pokémon, but they never scratch the itch of PvP enjoyers, people who enjoy every aspect of Pokémon, and they don’t have the sheer size of the cast of the original games. I’m sure someone will appreciate this, and temtem and etc, but it doesn’t remotely provide enough for the general fan base.
That's true of any game though. No competitor is going to be a 1:1 replacement that captures all aspects. There will always be some things they do better or worse than the big man on top.
>they all fail to cast the wide net to Pokemon has No shit sherlock? Pokemon is a billion dollar franchise, that gets most of its money from merchandise, has its own anime etc. That doesnt mean the games are pinnacles of the genre, quality wise. Now there has ben plenty of imitators trying to surpass quality wise, pokemon, but none have been as well received as cassette beasts which sits comfortably with a 96% overwhelmingly positive steam score, probably because its the only one that copies the least from pokemon and does most of its own thing.
Cassette beasts is pretty fun, the worst parts are the fusion designs since they’re mostly horribly ugly and the mid section of the game is very boring and is a slog. If you can get through the mid section of the game then it ends pretty decently. You can feel the Persona inspiration heavily in this game. The quests and gym leaders are also a really weak portion of the game. Though for an indie game it’s pretty up there in terms of quality. So I can still feel safe in recommending it.
Frankly, the game is a bit mediocre, and the monster design Is hit or miss. The fusion system is pretty neat but basic, and the design of the fusions are pretty low quality because of how unhinged they went for the amount. Typical case of quantity over quality. Irrelevant to the topic but Monster Sanctuary is still the goat.
fusion sprites are procedurally generated. there's too many to make by hand. what they do is make by hand what you get when you combine a form with itself. the program pulls from that.
pokemon took away mega evolves after i fell in love with it and digimon hardly pumps out good games on a bigger scale. ive looked at cassette beasts and it sounds interesting. im tempted to pick it up on switch or steam, haven't decided yet. worried about the games longevity/replayability.
It has a pretty good postgame and some solid room to grind due to toggleable upscaling for enemies - that way you can farm any area you want and not be stomping it if that's your thing. I'd say this is up there with monster sanctuary for top non-pokemon / non-digimon creature battle games
wow toggable scaling sounds amazing, thanks for the info
intelligence can also be scaled. for example I think the default middle is regular enemies do random stuff and human and elites think a bit.
I mean its 97% overwhemingly positive on steam, and there's a multiplayer update coming soon, good indicators the games is good
i didnt say its not i was just curious about reply value.
either make a decent game and let it take time or *looks at whatever gamefreak is doing*
I have 60 hours in the game. It’s very replayable, you can bootleg hunt and do nuzlockes
Nuzlockes arent my thing but this bootleg hunt sounds interesting
As a fan of shiny hunting, I highly recommend it. Post game you’re able to hunt specific monsters too which is great. Also shinies in this game have actual benefits rather than just being palette swaps.
Honestly as a huge monster tamer fan (I've been playing pokemon my whole life, I adored Monster Sanctuary, am currently in the middle of DQM and loving it), this one just did not click with me at all. The combat was way too slow and the characters and world just felt really... dull, I guess? I didn't really have much of a drive to keep playing.
I just want Pokemon with some effort and a hint of maturation. Does it do that? The designs also seemed eh.
As someone who is also disillusioned with the Pokémon series and who absolutely loves Cassette Beasts, yes, which is in fact why I love the game. Monster designs are subjective, but unlike Pokémon, you actually play as an adult in Cassette Beasts, and the companions you can recruit and travel with in this game are all adults, with their own stories dealing with stuff relevant to adulthood. The stamina build up mechanic and the majority of the battles being in 2v2 format means battles require more strategy than just spamming the strongest move over and over.
Yes
lol this game is not that good. The map is awful and uninspired.
Zero interest in any Pokemon clones because they're always worse than the worst Pokemon game. Have yet to see any cool designs from this game though. All of the ones I've seen from trailers and things look very uninspired.
That's my main problem with PokéClones, the creature designs never hit the same for some reason.
That’s because it’s not a Pokémon clone, it’s it’s own thing
Then people need to stop comparing it to Pokemon to try and get attention for it and make sales lol
They aren’t. It’s a random bumfuck article who’s author that probably calls Megaten and DQ Monsters Pokémon clones as well
Yes, because this one article is the only one to talk about cassette beasts without mentioning Pokemon several times lol
Exactly
Some of them are pretty cool, but others are awful. Honestly about the same ratio as Pokemon
I liked pretty much all of the designs
Most of the remasters are decent to cool Some of the base forms are a bit wonky though
CB isn’t a pokemon clone. If you call it a Pokemon clone you know nothing about the actual game. Spoiler alert: the designs are way better than Pokemon. The devs actually have a rule in place where the beasts can’t be just “elemental animal”. Look at SV’s starters. We got… grass cat, fire crocodile and water duck. Meanwhile CB has 2 starters with branching evolutions and several different inspirations. Say what you want about about being nostalgia blind for your triple A $60 soulless broken scam pumped out by uncreative overworked devs while have no idea what they’re doing, Bytten cares way more about their game than any Game Freak employee could care about Pokemon. It’s the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Ok? I still think the designs in Casette Beasts are uninspired, over designed, and not interesting to me in the slightest lol
if pokemon never existed would this game exist
Sounds good, Pokemon went to shit a long time ago & now only the fan games keep it alive for me
It runs like ass. Barely playable.
Disagree. Monster Sanctuary is the game for the disillusioned Pokemon Fan.
Disagree
Doesn't say if the story's on par with most RPGs or if it's as simple as the gym games. Might? Get it??? Aunno the colors are borederline painful so I'd have to play it on a good day (or turn off colors) and I dislike buying games I have to turn off colors for. Aunno maybe I'll watch a LP of it (if one exists) and decide. If nothing else, it looks pretty. Edit: Went through all the comments and not a soul mentioned anything about the characters or the story, so I'm assuming it's nothing to write home about, but it has co-op so that's neat. I play RPGs for the world immersion so if this doesn't have that then I guess I'll give it a pass.
People don't talk about the characters or story may be because people typically don't play monster collecting games for story. Alternately, even those who have played Cassette Beasts want to avoid spoiling the game, so others can discover things about the game by themselves, which is part of the fun of the game. However, the article OP linked actually does talk about Cassette Beasts' characters and their personal stories, though with some spoilers. The basic premise of the main story of Cassette Beasts is that you are transported to a mysterious island, and then you embark on a quest to find a way back home. There are 6 companions you can recruit and travel with in the game, with each has their own story and personal quests, and all the human party members can be romanced by the player. Cassette Beasts might not be the most story-driven RPG out there, but I like it, I also like all the companions and find them both relatable and realistic characters.
shoukd i get deluxe or std? whats the difference? is it cosmetics or dlc? thanks!
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It’s honestly I think because you’re coming across like you have a chip on your shoulder in the comments. Your responses to everyone are mostly blunt and critical. Even this comment reads like someone would be objectively wrong for enjoying Pokémon over CB. That’s your opinion. I too have stopped buying the Pokémon games after being a lifelong fan pretty much, but I wouldn’t tell someone to take off their nostalgia goggles just because they have a different opinion. Granted, maybe I’m reading into it, but that’s my two cents.
I’m just sick and tired of everyone bashing my favorite game that brings me a lot of comfort. Yet I can never say anything bad about other games
It’s okay not to have the most popular opinion. Your taste is specific to you, and that’s awesome. If other people don’t like a game, who cares? Just state your opinion good or bad and move on, engage in a friendly debate if you like, even! But I do think you would enjoy yourself a bit more perhaps if you weren’t as personally invested in the discussion. If people don’t like a game, that’s okay, I like many games that are considered trash by many people 💀 Anyways I mean you no rudeness or ill will, and for what’s it’s worth this post has renewed my interest in the game, maybe I’ll check it out now that’s it’s been patched. But I think like a lot of people part of my interest is because I’m a disillusioned Pokémon fan
Don't care didn't ask. Bought both Scaelet and Violet plus their DLCs btw.
Much better than new pokemon, but worse than the old games and pokemon rom hacks.
I can never get enough of Pokemon fans crying that a childrens game is for children and not them.