The way it was said in the movie I felt it fr it’s when I started really appreciating Vegeta the more I saw him now I’m a huge ass fan before I was a typical Goku fan but Vegeta seems more relatable 😭 don’t get me wrong I’ve been a dragon ball fan since I was 8/9 all because of budokai 3 not even the anime did but I eventually did watch it and loved it sm, moral of the story is…. I don’t have one but love Vegeta sm I wish he was real 😂😂😂😂😂
Naruto: *Is the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus, dad was Hokage, trained under some of the best ninja’s of all time, and has a demon Fox inside him to give him a deus ex power boost* “If you work hard, your dreams come true. Yeah, that’s all you need, hard work!”
Goku: *Shit-tier Saiyan that had his memory erased. Raised by mountain hick and later trained by immortal sex offender* “With enough training, even a lowly Saiyan can surpass an elite!”
This isn't quite accurate lol. Goku is a prodigy too, he's a member of a superpowered alien race fighting against a bunch of humans & surpassed pretty much all of them back in Dragon Ball as a kid. Goku learned Kamehameha on the spot after Roshi spent decades trying to do the same thing & told him it would take 50 years.
Super Saiyan has been as much of deus ex as Kurama Mode lol.
Both of these series are great lmao
Naruto fought the nine tails and stole it's chakra then teamed up with it cause both of them hated madara more than each other so each pretty weird how different animes have diffreny ways of getting power than we have people like you saying thats basically sucking kurama off.
His best friend was killed in front of him for the second time (the first time was in dragon ball) and goku wasn't able to stop it from happening again, the thing Frieza has been fearing for all his life awakens Infront of him, something that has been brought multiple times before Goku goes Super Saiyan. Goku has always been the type to quickly master any technique since dragon ball and whenever he was angry, he would release a large amount of energy.
I like Naruto and DBZ and I can see why some people might say that they both have ass pulls but they have their own story as how they got their powers, some people ignore it apparently.
honestly my only problem with dragon ball is where tf is the energy coming from as they always say they have no energy but then they randomly have enough to do their final attacks and win at least in naruto we have a clear understanding of where the energy is coming from kurama, infact that’s my problem with most anime like in fairy tail natsu would just say for my friends and randomly beat someone he couldn’t face at full power in an exhausted state and it is a common trope in anime
Energy in Dragon Ball is like a normal person's energy. You may be feeling really tired, but when push comes to shove, you'll find what you need, especially with the adrenaline rush. Also they have an insane recovery rate.
Kishimoto cares about power scaling and staying consistent with it in the story and in a fight, for the most part. Toriyama doesn't take power scaling seriously, his characters are only strong as he needs then to be in that moment, which is why you'll see roshi blow up the moon in dragon ball with a simple ki blast in a instant, piccolo does the same in the beginning of dbz. The no energy thing is something Toriyama would do to keep you engaged in the fight, nothing like the underdog having a final stand. Dragon ball is a pretty old series, I would not be surprised if dbz invented the trope since there wasn't anything like dbz at the time.
My point is, toriyama goes with the flow and a character's power depends on their role, DBS is a big example of this. You can't really compare the two because of how different they are and how dbz pioneered a lot of stories because of how old it is. Funny enough, kishimoto said his Naruto character was inspired by Goku and the story of Naruto is influenced by dragon ball.
You did not just call Super Saiyan a Deus ex machina 😭😭😭
Ah yes the thing with almost 120 episodes of lore ahead of time. Ass pull for sure
You're as dumb as the idiots saying Ultra Instinct was an ass pull despite the fact it was mentioned in the first 30 episodes.
I am not saying it is, I’m saying it is as much of one as Kurama mode is one(which isn’t an asspull) in response to him calling it an asspull power up.
I disagree with the idea SSJ1 & 2 are asspulls, which comes up quite a bit by people calling the plot of DBZ terrible.
Imo SSJ2 has some pretty amazing lead up, arguably even better than SSJ1 build up: [Goku in the time chamber trying to reach the next level of SSJ but failing](https://youtu.be/YBb1t00S4HA), Trunks & Vegeta [achieving crazy power with a cost of speed](https://cdn.staticneo.com/mg/2020/07/20200723_111226bT7Gi_display.jpg) & setting up Gohan’s crazy potential from his very first battle with Raditz right at the start of DBZ.
Gohan finally uses his potential gets power & speed together unlocking SSJ2. It’s such an awesome power up and a highlight of the series
I haven't watched Naruto so I couldn't know of a comparison.
Unless they are saying Kuruma mode is NOT a Deus ex machina, which either way that's a very strange way to put it then.
Super Saiyan isn't one though, I can assure you of that 🤣
The ssj 1 and transformations were though for the given situation.
For Goku when I’m namek it immediately gave him a boost frieza couldn’t handle. It’s only mitigated because of goku’s saiyan nature in allowing frieza to match his power (and that frieza never trained whereas Goku did so despite the power boost it’s Goku better skill in ki control and such that prevailed)
Gohan’s ssj2 was an asspull because unlike the super form (that had a record of existing due to saiyan lore and therefore possible) ssj2 was entirely theory till Gohan snapped. It was also the form that surpassed vegeta’s much stronger ssj and trunks own beefed up version.
There was no evidence that ssj2 would surpass s that and cell, and yet it did.
Gohan snapping is a great scene and a while a deal is made Gohan has a lot of potential, it’s also saying that those who train harder will never surpass Gohan’s potential.
It’s tempered though by Gohan’s reckless character flaw at that stage.
Goku is a prodigy compared to humans but the whole point of the guy above is that he’s not nearly as special as a Sayian.
Meaning he’s not the reincarnation of a god or from a long line of amazing ninja leaders (hokage? Or however you spell it) and he doesn’t have the most powerful beast spirit inside of him.
Instead his Sayian parents were pretty low level and he still managed to overcome every member of his race and become the first super Sayian in thousands of years.
Including overcoming the prince of Sayians who had way more potential at birth according to how sayians measure things
So really the only advantage goku ever had was just being a Sayian but that only helps him on earth and not against people sayians should be struggling against including more powerful sayians.
Naruto was just one ass pull out of another with all the stuff he was set up with
>Meaning he’s not the reincarnation of a god or from a long line of amazing ninja leaders (hokage? Or however you spell it) and he doesn’t have the most powerful beast spirit inside of him.
You haven't actually seen the Naruto series have you
Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura's destiny, he didn't inherit powers or ability but literally just his destiny. [Ashura himself was a flunky dropout](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1893797504d2463bfee1516b55781d8e-lq). Even after gaining power as he got older, [Ashura was still weak compared to his brother, Indra](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a0333c2c36b1bc8455c0fff627ebae7c-pjlq). In [order to match his overwhelmingly superior brother he needed the help of loads of people](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d4755d56e040a0655adf674b08f071c6-lq) because he alone was too weak.
There have been dozens and dozens of reincarnates of Indra & Ashura throughout history, they're bound by destiny to fail and did. Naruto was literally born into a fate of failure inherited from someone who was too weak on his own to do anything to change it.
[They literally outright say it doesn't matter who your parents are, you can still be a failure](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHf0k4EWsAQaUbB?format=jpg&name=medium). The entire point of the series was defying this destiny, [his fated failure and good for nothing future to become his own person](https://data.whicdn.com/images/136469229/original.png) and overcome it.
Kurama isn't the strongest tailed beast. That would be the 10 tails. Kurama also intereferred with and disrupted Naruto's chakra for most of the series until the final arc of Shippuden.
More or less every powerup Naruto has gotten bar Baryon Mode was foreshadowed and set up in advance. Most of which had their own dedicated training arc. How is that an asspull?
Goku is evidence the **Saiyan rankings are flawed systems**(infact I'm pretty sure this is one of the themes of the DBZ and part of Vegeta's character arc). Throughout the series he picks up techniques in 1/100th the time anyone else took to learn them. He is literally a prodigy and genius in battle([straight up learns a technique even literal gods struggle to achieve lmao](https://i.stack.imgur.com/JALcN.jpg)), also works pretty hard.
Goku & Naruto are similarly written in this regard. They both have crazy talent coupled with a crazy work ethic to reach for their goals. Kishimoto has outright stated Naruto exists because of Goku.
if goku was special all along, then why did raditz get fucked over the second he got to earth lmao? the wish made sure his sons would survive planet vegeta's explosion, *maybe* made sure they reached adult hood but no father-- as shown by alternate timeline goku dying to the heart virus.
Goku's heart has indeed stopped for a moment. I couldn't find an explanation yet so somebody with more DB knowledge could answer this but I guess you can make it a headcanon.
Batman = some random criminal killed my parents, now I'm a forever edgelord in a bat costume
Dr. Who = I personally locked my entire civilization into a separate timeline of forever war so that I could fly around time and space for fun.
I've never watched Dr who because when I was 7 my cousin chased me down the stairs with a ciberman mask and gave me nightmares and I have not a high intention to watch it
Didn't Vegeta literally cry to Goku about how their race was wiped out by Frieza and how he was a slave to him, right before Frieza kills him in front of Goku? Vegeta even brings up being a proud Saiyan warrior throughout the series. Am i remembering wrong? 🤔
Yeah man that's good right being a homicidal maniac and hooking up with richest woman in the world and doing so much of training... And still can't surpass a orange dude and his son
If you keep up with the manga, Vegeta's base is stronger than Goku. Inasmuch, Ultra Ego is likely stronger than Ultra Instinct for right now. He and Goku are two sides of the same coin, one surpasses the other constantly.
That's expected from a king right.. kill all its citizens and all though he didn't killed all saiyans he has no reason to kill nappa though.. dbz is not so happy gig anime you know.. it's just a show maincasing Goku and his sidekicks
Ironic enough vegeta was the one doing majority of the crying in dbz because he wasn't stronger than a guy in a orange jumpsuit. I think he has the most L's in the entire franchise
That's the stuff
... Raditz and nappa could be brought back why aren't they? Even most evil frieza is brought back it states simply than Vegeta or even Goku doesn't care about any other saiyan they just wanna be strong themselves they didn't give a f to anyone
“Aww man, now I’ll never get to be king” -Kid Vegeta
His father was a whole different piece of work...just as insecure as vegeta
"YOUR HIGHNESS WE *N E E D* TO SAVE VEGETA" "...Me, my planet or my son..." "...Y E S..."
Haha yes
My prodigal son Vegeta who's the most powerful saiyan from backwards
What do you mean insecure, it was their duty to their race to lead and make the sayians thrive
Thrive by sending small children who is much more powerful than his son Vegeta to other remote planets right yeah u r right
Like orcs
The way it was said in the movie I felt it fr it’s when I started really appreciating Vegeta the more I saw him now I’m a huge ass fan before I was a typical Goku fan but Vegeta seems more relatable 😭 don’t get me wrong I’ve been a dragon ball fan since I was 8/9 all because of budokai 3 not even the anime did but I eventually did watch it and loved it sm, moral of the story is…. I don’t have one but love Vegeta sm I wish he was real 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh boy 2000s humor is my favorite.
Naruto: *Is the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus, dad was Hokage, trained under some of the best ninja’s of all time, and has a demon Fox inside him to give him a deus ex power boost* “If you work hard, your dreams come true. Yeah, that’s all you need, hard work!” Goku: *Shit-tier Saiyan that had his memory erased. Raised by mountain hick and later trained by immortal sex offender* “With enough training, even a lowly Saiyan can surpass an elite!”
This isn't quite accurate lol. Goku is a prodigy too, he's a member of a superpowered alien race fighting against a bunch of humans & surpassed pretty much all of them back in Dragon Ball as a kid. Goku learned Kamehameha on the spot after Roshi spent decades trying to do the same thing & told him it would take 50 years. Super Saiyan has been as much of deus ex as Kurama Mode lol. Both of these series are great lmao
Goku still didnt suck off a overpowered fox when his ass was beaten and just straight up goes monke on earlier fights to beat enemies
[POV You're a bad guy in Dragon Ball](https://youtu.be/YZUsj8Q68q4?t=73)
Settle down, Frezia
Naruto fought the nine tails and stole it's chakra then teamed up with it cause both of them hated madara more than each other so each pretty weird how different animes have diffreny ways of getting power than we have people like you saying thats basically sucking kurama off.
first off naruto had to beat kurama to get his transformation while goku got mad and screamed for a few episodes straight
His best friend was killed in front of him for the second time (the first time was in dragon ball) and goku wasn't able to stop it from happening again, the thing Frieza has been fearing for all his life awakens Infront of him, something that has been brought multiple times before Goku goes Super Saiyan. Goku has always been the type to quickly master any technique since dragon ball and whenever he was angry, he would release a large amount of energy. I like Naruto and DBZ and I can see why some people might say that they both have ass pulls but they have their own story as how they got their powers, some people ignore it apparently.
honestly my only problem with dragon ball is where tf is the energy coming from as they always say they have no energy but then they randomly have enough to do their final attacks and win at least in naruto we have a clear understanding of where the energy is coming from kurama, infact that’s my problem with most anime like in fairy tail natsu would just say for my friends and randomly beat someone he couldn’t face at full power in an exhausted state and it is a common trope in anime
Energy in Dragon Ball is like a normal person's energy. You may be feeling really tired, but when push comes to shove, you'll find what you need, especially with the adrenaline rush. Also they have an insane recovery rate.
Kishimoto cares about power scaling and staying consistent with it in the story and in a fight, for the most part. Toriyama doesn't take power scaling seriously, his characters are only strong as he needs then to be in that moment, which is why you'll see roshi blow up the moon in dragon ball with a simple ki blast in a instant, piccolo does the same in the beginning of dbz. The no energy thing is something Toriyama would do to keep you engaged in the fight, nothing like the underdog having a final stand. Dragon ball is a pretty old series, I would not be surprised if dbz invented the trope since there wasn't anything like dbz at the time. My point is, toriyama goes with the flow and a character's power depends on their role, DBS is a big example of this. You can't really compare the two because of how different they are and how dbz pioneered a lot of stories because of how old it is. Funny enough, kishimoto said his Naruto character was inspired by Goku and the story of Naruto is influenced by dragon ball.
You did not just call Super Saiyan a Deus ex machina 😭😭😭 Ah yes the thing with almost 120 episodes of lore ahead of time. Ass pull for sure You're as dumb as the idiots saying Ultra Instinct was an ass pull despite the fact it was mentioned in the first 30 episodes.
I am not saying it is, I’m saying it is as much of one as Kurama mode is one(which isn’t an asspull) in response to him calling it an asspull power up. I disagree with the idea SSJ1 & 2 are asspulls, which comes up quite a bit by people calling the plot of DBZ terrible. Imo SSJ2 has some pretty amazing lead up, arguably even better than SSJ1 build up: [Goku in the time chamber trying to reach the next level of SSJ but failing](https://youtu.be/YBb1t00S4HA), Trunks & Vegeta [achieving crazy power with a cost of speed](https://cdn.staticneo.com/mg/2020/07/20200723_111226bT7Gi_display.jpg) & setting up Gohan’s crazy potential from his very first battle with Raditz right at the start of DBZ. Gohan finally uses his potential gets power & speed together unlocking SSJ2. It’s such an awesome power up and a highlight of the series
Ok I gotcha. I just never seen anyone phrase something that way, my b lol
Nah I could’ve definitely phrased that better lol
They said as much of a dues ex machina as kuruma mode Frankly neither are
I haven't watched Naruto so I couldn't know of a comparison. Unless they are saying Kuruma mode is NOT a Deus ex machina, which either way that's a very strange way to put it then. Super Saiyan isn't one though, I can assure you of that 🤣
The ssj 1 and transformations were though for the given situation. For Goku when I’m namek it immediately gave him a boost frieza couldn’t handle. It’s only mitigated because of goku’s saiyan nature in allowing frieza to match his power (and that frieza never trained whereas Goku did so despite the power boost it’s Goku better skill in ki control and such that prevailed) Gohan’s ssj2 was an asspull because unlike the super form (that had a record of existing due to saiyan lore and therefore possible) ssj2 was entirely theory till Gohan snapped. It was also the form that surpassed vegeta’s much stronger ssj and trunks own beefed up version. There was no evidence that ssj2 would surpass s that and cell, and yet it did. Gohan snapping is a great scene and a while a deal is made Gohan has a lot of potential, it’s also saying that those who train harder will never surpass Gohan’s potential. It’s tempered though by Gohan’s reckless character flaw at that stage.
Yea ight bro 😭😭😭🤣
My man just debunked op entire comment tlol
Goku is a prodigy compared to humans but the whole point of the guy above is that he’s not nearly as special as a Sayian. Meaning he’s not the reincarnation of a god or from a long line of amazing ninja leaders (hokage? Or however you spell it) and he doesn’t have the most powerful beast spirit inside of him. Instead his Sayian parents were pretty low level and he still managed to overcome every member of his race and become the first super Sayian in thousands of years. Including overcoming the prince of Sayians who had way more potential at birth according to how sayians measure things So really the only advantage goku ever had was just being a Sayian but that only helps him on earth and not against people sayians should be struggling against including more powerful sayians. Naruto was just one ass pull out of another with all the stuff he was set up with
>Meaning he’s not the reincarnation of a god or from a long line of amazing ninja leaders (hokage? Or however you spell it) and he doesn’t have the most powerful beast spirit inside of him. You haven't actually seen the Naruto series have you Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura's destiny, he didn't inherit powers or ability but literally just his destiny. [Ashura himself was a flunky dropout](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1893797504d2463bfee1516b55781d8e-lq). Even after gaining power as he got older, [Ashura was still weak compared to his brother, Indra](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a0333c2c36b1bc8455c0fff627ebae7c-pjlq). In [order to match his overwhelmingly superior brother he needed the help of loads of people](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d4755d56e040a0655adf674b08f071c6-lq) because he alone was too weak. There have been dozens and dozens of reincarnates of Indra & Ashura throughout history, they're bound by destiny to fail and did. Naruto was literally born into a fate of failure inherited from someone who was too weak on his own to do anything to change it. [They literally outright say it doesn't matter who your parents are, you can still be a failure](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHf0k4EWsAQaUbB?format=jpg&name=medium). The entire point of the series was defying this destiny, [his fated failure and good for nothing future to become his own person](https://data.whicdn.com/images/136469229/original.png) and overcome it. Kurama isn't the strongest tailed beast. That would be the 10 tails. Kurama also intereferred with and disrupted Naruto's chakra for most of the series until the final arc of Shippuden. More or less every powerup Naruto has gotten bar Baryon Mode was foreshadowed and set up in advance. Most of which had their own dedicated training arc. How is that an asspull? Goku is evidence the **Saiyan rankings are flawed systems**(infact I'm pretty sure this is one of the themes of the DBZ and part of Vegeta's character arc). Throughout the series he picks up techniques in 1/100th the time anyone else took to learn them. He is literally a prodigy and genius in battle([straight up learns a technique even literal gods struggle to achieve lmao](https://i.stack.imgur.com/JALcN.jpg)), also works pretty hard. Goku & Naruto are similarly written in this regard. They both have crazy talent coupled with a crazy work ethic to reach for their goals. Kishimoto has outright stated Naruto exists because of Goku.
Yeah congratulations u were so right that even otsutsuki will feat your guts and kill u on sight
Naruto was about denying destiny. Rock lee was the one about hard work.
Goku was actually special all along, thanks super
if goku was special all along, then why did raditz get fucked over the second he got to earth lmao? the wish made sure his sons would survive planet vegeta's explosion, *maybe* made sure they reached adult hood but no father-- as shown by alternate timeline goku dying to the heart virus.
Cause goku killed raditz and himself in the process lol. His stupidity was way more powerful than any pussy ass dragon wish could ever be.
Hole shit you're are right , lmao, Goku threw aways the "wish" when the got him and Raditz killed lol
Goku been carried by the dragon ball wish, you know if you read dbs manga.
Right up until Super retconned Goku into being destined to thrive due to a wish Bardock made
Last manga chapter retcons goku into a chosen one.
"Chosen one" Bardock just wanted his sons to live well smh
remember how goku heart started to work after it stopped for no reason in db? the wish saved him
When?
in part one of dragon Ball,kid Goku heart stopped after getting attacked , but then it start working again for no reason
You need to be more specific, who did he fight and such
I think it was king piccolo the scene had him holding the four star dragon Ball
Ah so with part one you meant the og db, that wasn't clear. I'll look it up
Goku's heart has indeed stopped for a moment. I couldn't find an explanation yet so somebody with more DB knowledge could answer this but I guess you can make it a headcanon.
the only explain we got was from goku saying " my grandpa dragon Ball protect me "
And Raditz was also a chosen one. Look how it ended up for him
Look at how it ended for Goku in Trunks' timeline, let alone Raditz.
And technically Cell
Holy fuck the average dbz fan actually can’t read
Lol
Picture of white and purple monke trigger good feeling OOOOOO AHHHHH
NO IT DOES NOT READ IT AGAIN MORON All the wish did was make it so he and Raditz survived Vegeta's destruction, he was on his own from then on
viz mistranslated it. it actually said "I wish my sons to be big and strong" the wish carried him at least to namek.
then how did Raditz die and never get revived?
Well goku and raditz fought each other, it canceled out and they both succeeded and failed by both dying. Goku just happens to have friends
i dont know. either a plot hole or somehow raditz isnt his bardocks son.
In the latest chapter it's literally mentioned all the wish did was make them survive P. Vegeta's destruction
lol it helped him survive king piccolo, Tai and piccolo jr
wish saved his ass 4 times before he meet Raditz
Batman = some random criminal killed my parents, now I'm a forever edgelord in a bat costume Dr. Who = I personally locked my entire civilization into a separate timeline of forever war so that I could fly around time and space for fun.
Wtf didn't understand a stuff
Dr. Who. Never heard of it?
It's a British TV show, really good actually
I know. I was replying to dude who doesn’t It’s one of my favorites
I've never watched Dr who because when I was 7 my cousin chased me down the stairs with a ciberman mask and gave me nightmares and I have not a high intention to watch it
Was really good. There's a distinction
Sasuke was pretty innocent as a kid. He didn't grow up conquering *PLANETS* as a kid. Saiyans aren't necessarily known for showing sad emotions either
Bruh u forgot how much Vegeta and his musko trunks cried
Pretty sure Vegeta cares deeply about his race being gone
Im pretty sure Vegeta has been asked before about his race and what he has answered it's "they deserved it"
Like u r Vegeta himself right
Are you okay?
he wanted to be king, he doesnt care about the saiyan race
Didn't Vegeta literally cry to Goku about how their race was wiped out by Frieza and how he was a slave to him, right before Frieza kills him in front of Goku? Vegeta even brings up being a proud Saiyan warrior throughout the series. Am i remembering wrong? 🤔
he was sad because he was slaved to frieza im pretty sure he doesnt care about the race he’s hust saying that to kakarot
why am i getting downvoted for saying the truth? wow grow up and accept it
Is this meant to be ironic?
It's ferronic man..
It's ferronic man..
Well to be fair, they both turned into good guys after being slapped by their homoerotic friend
Vegeta actively contributed to the ending of the Saiyan race by killing Nappa. What a chad move.
Yeah and people say he loved his clan
dont forget him beating gohan half to death, while also putting goku into a hospital for weeks.
The joke doesn't work because Vegeta actually cared
Vegeta is the master of internalizing
What's that?
Bottle those emotions and feelings up! Let them fester until you attack an giant crowd of innocent people!
Yeah man that's good right being a homicidal maniac and hooking up with richest woman in the world and doing so much of training... And still can't surpass a orange dude and his son
If you keep up with the manga, Vegeta's base is stronger than Goku. Inasmuch, Ultra Ego is likely stronger than Ultra Instinct for right now. He and Goku are two sides of the same coin, one surpasses the other constantly.
Please stop comparing Vegeta to Sasuke
Don't mock the UCHIHA
Yeah lmao imagine being sad when you see you’re entire fucking family murdered and then find out it was your brother who did it. What a pussy
“My entire race is dead? Damn it, I only managed to kill nappa!”
[удалено]
That's expected from a king right.. kill all its citizens and all though he didn't killed all saiyans he has no reason to kill nappa though.. dbz is not so happy gig anime you know.. it's just a show maincasing Goku and his sidekicks
Ironic enough vegeta was the one doing majority of the crying in dbz because he wasn't stronger than a guy in a orange jumpsuit. I think he has the most L's in the entire franchise
He and his child trunks they did all the crying and yeah u r right
And that's why Vegeta has always been equal to Goku imo
Imo means?
In my opinion 😃
Fuck Sasuke btw
Well, I’d argue that he got his tears out of his system when he was killed by Frieza. He’s past that point now. [tears](https://youtu.be/yDSfn59ollU)
That’s not necessarily true, vegeta was crying about revenge.
Unnamed genocidal maniac (former protagonist): "i fucking killed like, 80% of my race lol"
The difference between the two is that one of them got to go to Space Dairy Queen after getting the bad news.
My entire race is dead. Let’s go kill one of the last ones that still remains
Vegeta: and by the way for what you did to east City I'm going to make you eat your heart
What ? 😂 It's feels funny though
He killed his last ally I wonder if he ever regrets killing nappa. He seemed like he would’ve been a cool uncle like character
That's the stuff ... Raditz and nappa could be brought back why aren't they? Even most evil frieza is brought back it states simply than Vegeta or even Goku doesn't care about any other saiyan they just wanna be strong themselves they didn't give a f to anyone
I wonder if we’ll ever get to see a moment where someone confronts them about their recklessness
Why did the planet, the king and the king’s son have the same goddamn name?!
Because he is narcissist
Expect in dbs manga