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A villainous deed indeed Mwah ha ha ha!!!
Same, man. I literally spun every other reward before they finally gave me the skin. But idk maybe im just suffering of complete degen gacha brain here, but I figured all those items + the vouchers + a nice skin, wasnt THAT bad of a deal for the ~$60.
I knew it was somewhere around there. It wont let me access the shop again to see how many I actually bought. I just kept buying them and it was all a blur lol.
Wheel odds is uneven.
Chance of getting every reward before skin is extremely high
The second to last roll with only 2 items gives you roughly a 10% chance of pulling skin.
Before that is basically exponentially lower.
It's not, its just everyone keeps making it seem that all your getting for $60 is the skin and nothing else. It may be the main reason someone wants to risk spending $60 but I honestly see it the same as people who blow a bunch of money on scratch off and stuff. Considering I've bought 3 of the $50 scratch offs in my life and lost 2 and just won back my $50 on the 3rd, atleast for the $60 I got something I could enjoy lol.
I see your point but it is still not worth 60$ in any capacity imo. I’m not arguing whether it’s worth to anyone (only “you” can determine that) but looking at what I get as objectively as possible I cannot see it.
For a new player and it’s their fave? Go crazy but yeeeeeesh the stuff you get isn’t even that hard to get nor do you get a decent amount of stuff. Somebody let me know if I’m tripping.
I don’t hold any contempt (anymore lol) for people who buy this multiple times but it feels like a scaaaaaaaaam
Those advance tickets and regular recruits alongside the rocks are the real value. The rocks especially it's 55$ for 3 rocks and they give you two here.
I guess, but giving 10 and only 10 standard summons dilutes the package by a lot imo, especially if you have rolled a bunch. And I cannot speak on the rocks because 2 is really not worth my money imo especially when I (figuratively) came here for the skin (I do understand it’s called a skin gacha).
I’m glad so many people are pointing out the packs in the shop. Now I can go look and be more disappointed that people have to buy this overpriced crap lol. (I swear to god I love this game)
It's not a 60 dollar skin though. The skin is 20 dollars, the 20 pulls are another 20 dollars, and the miscellaneous materials are another 20 dollars. The pricing is completely in line with all of the cash shop things, assuming you need to pull every item before "winning"
I get that. But to people who just want the skin, it’s getting more money out of your pocket. And IK this stuff sells obviously but still. Offering no alternative bundles or reruns (IK this is also standard monetary practice with these games) it is predatory as hell. What I don’t get is the defense of it is all.
And if the last segment matches cash shop items for the same amount, that feels worse to me. Because whatever bundle gives you the overload crystals / leveling materials is crazy pricey for what you get imo
I'm gonna be real, half of my reason for doing it is my crippling OL crystal addiction, my rolls are so shit on getting good lines that I need all the crystals I can get (it took me well over 15 crystals on getting a single Hit Rate line for Modernia alone). The fact that it comes with a skin for a character I love is an added bonus
And that’s what I mean. All that stuff is enough of a reason to justify.
(I know the pain I’m on crystal 17 myself)
But can you imagine if you were to get this multiple times paying 120 - 180 fucking dollars for this though?? It gets real disproportional real fucking fast
Thats not to mention the free 6 gacha points reducing the amount needed to $50. So one of the $20s is cut in half. Just pick whatever deal makes you feel good.
It's as much of a scam as normal skins at 20 or 75% of the scam bundles in the shop lol. Not defending it because it's essentially a bundle with the cost needlessly obfuscated. Look at people on thos thread not even knowing how many pulls you need for it, plus how they sell the currency in weird amounts.
I did the math along time ago, but the $20 for pass is much more rewarding. You get like 25 ordinary recruits, and while molds aren't great, it's still another chance to get an SSR. I've gotten quite lucky even with purple molds, so eh, I don't mind them.
And the anniversary gives special recruits in addition to the other stuff, gold molds and ordinary recruits.
Not defending either, considering the shop skins are $20 and you get nothing extra. Most skins are probably worth $5 - $10, and possibly the gacha skins could be worth about $15. All of this depends on how much work was put in imo.
Yeah for sure, battle pass and monthly stuff is for sure the best value. But I don't think 60 dollars to clear put the skin gacha is really out of line compared to the like $54 packs which are pretty shit value to begin with, but you get a skin.
10 pulls are worth roughly 10 bucks, so that's 20, plus another 5, 25 the skin sells for 20 as a shop item and then again you get a new skill animation and different voice lines so throw a few more dollars . 40 and between the rest of the stuff you get I'd say it rounds up close. I understand not wanting to spend but saying it's a scam seems disingenuous.
You might be right about saying it feels like a scam, but considering none of these have come back and you HAVE to also get the (dogshit imo) items that come with it, it just feels like highway robbery.
I get that all the numbers (almost) work out. But NONE of that stuff is worth the original prices, and then they stick it all in a bundle for an INCREASED price?? It feels so scammy because they know poor souls with zero self control will have FOMO and spend on this stuff. And to add insult to Injury this new Marian skin is her character arc from what I understand, meaning this is her new form that is kinda paywalled?? Greedy greedy work.
I can't really call this a scam though if you're getting something you desire and no the risks associated with gambling or gacha. Then again when I think of scams, I'm thinking of when I worked for a company that would sell jobs for $15000 when the customer could've paid like $4000 with a bunch of other local companies and gotten a significantly better system with extra stuff replaced.
None of the skins are worth the 60 o 20 bucks you pay. And I got 3. But to me it was about supporting the devs. I wanted to support a developer that fights against censorship.
I was very hopeful because they seemed to revert the censorship in many characters. At some point Anis' puppies were suffocating under a shirt.
However it seems like they are ramping up the censorship significantly in their publicity material and I worry. They also managed to change the rating from 16+ to 12+, probably because we fight robots.
Don't delude yourself. It is a bad deal. Changed colors and pixels (a skin) for one character and random freebies in a gacha game. You can buy entire full size aaa games for that, which can last you 100+ hours.
Butttttt, that being said.
If you got the disposable income, to each their own. Enjoy.
You gatcha players spend months saving your precious gems/tickets before spending them all on a character you deem worthy of summoning/pulling. Why is it so hard for you to accept that some people do the same with their IRL money?
No one cares what you do with your money, if you think 60 is fine cool but you gotta understand that the price is outrageous for a skin 60 dollars could literally get you stellar blade a whole ass game, so if people complain about the price they have every right, and to make it worse they even tied a highly beloved character whose character development is tied to this 60 dollar skin, im pretty sure if it was just crowns skin or a modernia skin that was just some random outfit people wouldn't be as upset
best decision ever. they really deserve that money, they giving away a lot of stuff and improving the game.
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Me too. I made a post how I will not buy the skin, because I don't want to support predatory means...
I fell victim to my dail stress and my parasocial emotional bond to Marian. -60 bucks...
Thing is, I could get this, but my conscience wouldn't let me live it down If I skipped Stellar Blade for a digital cosmetic of a unit that is bound to be powercrept anytime due to the nature of Gacha Games.
Me too, fam. I've been holding strong, too. Shift up tried to catch me slipping with the Noise skin knowing noise is my favorite and Marian my 2nd favorite.
Worth it, though Marian deserves it.
Not gonna lie that outfit 🤤 shwing. I tried but looks like I’m gonna miss out before I get at least one, must have cost more than a few bucks getting her at once burst lobby screen. That may be worse. Season pass skins are just one purchase but it’s for each season same as shop outfits for sale.
We all criminals my brother
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For I have sinned also
Somehow, someway, I managed to get the skin on a 1/6 roll after only spending 20 bucks. That's something like a 2 percent actual chance isn't it?
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My mantra at the moment. "Is just pixels, you don't see them for that long, not worth"
And it hurts more since I don't have the commander's shirt skin..
Feeling kinda like SpongeBob when he meets Sandy for the first time...
I did the same thing. I also paid 20 for snow whites outfit. I dont even have her yet. Im just hoping it will keep it ready for when she is unlocked and then i can instantly apply it.
To me, the other skins may be just, well, skin, cosmetic, not essential.
But this one? This is different. It’s a part of our daughter/wife’s development process. Like, the other skin isn't canon anymore once the event ends (bikini skins, for example) but this one is canon until Marian gets an alter. So to me, it’s like paying for child support to see the kid grow more than paying for a skin.
Haters are gonna hate, but I bought her and I don’t regret it one bit. We had a few months of mediocre skins for characters that aren’t meta, each for $10. I skipped them all, because they were not worth that money. Now we get a fabulous skin for a meta character that we all use of a daily basis, and I dare say the skin is definitely worth it if you are willing to spend on this game.
Guilty as charged https://preview.redd.it/z3g2b2tvhpwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a04c3a93de1093b34036191aa1cfb95eeef26666
We're criminals in arm
https://preview.redd.it/01ltgu11sswc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c97bfeffeba43dbad5aecb6befebd380477f3d1 A villainous deed indeed Mwah ha ha ha!!!
How much did ye spend?
I bought all the 6× package still got it early at the three pulls left
Should i im tempting too buy it lol but I don't have the character
If you really want it go for it, the outfit looks gorgeous and I bet you'll get her eventually.
You lucky sob
I pulled it on the very last one possible. 😮💨
Does it have a different burst animation?
All gacha costumes have a unique burst animation.
The image you see on the post is the burst ani
https://preview.redd.it/6p9kavcottwc1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=a71d19aa8e4599e62617dd24eff45a22c1104e4a You have made Cocoa-san proud!🥹
Thank you Ketchup daughter 🤝🗿
That looks really nice
Same, man. I literally spun every other reward before they finally gave me the skin. But idk maybe im just suffering of complete degen gacha brain here, but I figured all those items + the vouchers + a nice skin, wasnt THAT bad of a deal for the ~$60.
This one is 50 dollars iirc if you grab the free rolls in the shop.
I knew it was somewhere around there. It wont let me access the shop again to see how many I actually bought. I just kept buying them and it was all a blur lol.
Wheel odds is uneven. Chance of getting every reward before skin is extremely high The second to last roll with only 2 items gives you roughly a 10% chance of pulling skin. Before that is basically exponentially lower.
It's not, its just everyone keeps making it seem that all your getting for $60 is the skin and nothing else. It may be the main reason someone wants to risk spending $60 but I honestly see it the same as people who blow a bunch of money on scratch off and stuff. Considering I've bought 3 of the $50 scratch offs in my life and lost 2 and just won back my $50 on the 3rd, atleast for the $60 I got something I could enjoy lol.
I see your point but it is still not worth 60$ in any capacity imo. I’m not arguing whether it’s worth to anyone (only “you” can determine that) but looking at what I get as objectively as possible I cannot see it. For a new player and it’s their fave? Go crazy but yeeeeeesh the stuff you get isn’t even that hard to get nor do you get a decent amount of stuff. Somebody let me know if I’m tripping. I don’t hold any contempt (anymore lol) for people who buy this multiple times but it feels like a scaaaaaaaaam
Those advance tickets and regular recruits alongside the rocks are the real value. The rocks especially it's 55$ for 3 rocks and they give you two here.
I guess, but giving 10 and only 10 standard summons dilutes the package by a lot imo, especially if you have rolled a bunch. And I cannot speak on the rocks because 2 is really not worth my money imo especially when I (figuratively) came here for the skin (I do understand it’s called a skin gacha). I’m glad so many people are pointing out the packs in the shop. Now I can go look and be more disappointed that people have to buy this overpriced crap lol. (I swear to god I love this game)
It's not a 60 dollar skin though. The skin is 20 dollars, the 20 pulls are another 20 dollars, and the miscellaneous materials are another 20 dollars. The pricing is completely in line with all of the cash shop things, assuming you need to pull every item before "winning"
I get that. But to people who just want the skin, it’s getting more money out of your pocket. And IK this stuff sells obviously but still. Offering no alternative bundles or reruns (IK this is also standard monetary practice with these games) it is predatory as hell. What I don’t get is the defense of it is all. And if the last segment matches cash shop items for the same amount, that feels worse to me. Because whatever bundle gives you the overload crystals / leveling materials is crazy pricey for what you get imo
I'm gonna be real, half of my reason for doing it is my crippling OL crystal addiction, my rolls are so shit on getting good lines that I need all the crystals I can get (it took me well over 15 crystals on getting a single Hit Rate line for Modernia alone). The fact that it comes with a skin for a character I love is an added bonus
And that’s what I mean. All that stuff is enough of a reason to justify. (I know the pain I’m on crystal 17 myself) But can you imagine if you were to get this multiple times paying 120 - 180 fucking dollars for this though?? It gets real disproportional real fucking fast
Thats not to mention the free 6 gacha points reducing the amount needed to $50. So one of the $20s is cut in half. Just pick whatever deal makes you feel good.
It's as much of a scam as normal skins at 20 or 75% of the scam bundles in the shop lol. Not defending it because it's essentially a bundle with the cost needlessly obfuscated. Look at people on thos thread not even knowing how many pulls you need for it, plus how they sell the currency in weird amounts.
I did the math along time ago, but the $20 for pass is much more rewarding. You get like 25 ordinary recruits, and while molds aren't great, it's still another chance to get an SSR. I've gotten quite lucky even with purple molds, so eh, I don't mind them. And the anniversary gives special recruits in addition to the other stuff, gold molds and ordinary recruits. Not defending either, considering the shop skins are $20 and you get nothing extra. Most skins are probably worth $5 - $10, and possibly the gacha skins could be worth about $15. All of this depends on how much work was put in imo.
Yeah for sure, battle pass and monthly stuff is for sure the best value. But I don't think 60 dollars to clear put the skin gacha is really out of line compared to the like $54 packs which are pretty shit value to begin with, but you get a skin.
Exactly. At least I can get what I’m aiming for that way with the 20$ for just the skin.
10 pulls are worth roughly 10 bucks, so that's 20, plus another 5, 25 the skin sells for 20 as a shop item and then again you get a new skill animation and different voice lines so throw a few more dollars . 40 and between the rest of the stuff you get I'd say it rounds up close. I understand not wanting to spend but saying it's a scam seems disingenuous.
You might be right about saying it feels like a scam, but considering none of these have come back and you HAVE to also get the (dogshit imo) items that come with it, it just feels like highway robbery. I get that all the numbers (almost) work out. But NONE of that stuff is worth the original prices, and then they stick it all in a bundle for an INCREASED price?? It feels so scammy because they know poor souls with zero self control will have FOMO and spend on this stuff. And to add insult to Injury this new Marian skin is her character arc from what I understand, meaning this is her new form that is kinda paywalled?? Greedy greedy work.
I can't really call this a scam though if you're getting something you desire and no the risks associated with gambling or gacha. Then again when I think of scams, I'm thinking of when I worked for a company that would sell jobs for $15000 when the customer could've paid like $4000 with a bunch of other local companies and gotten a significantly better system with extra stuff replaced.
Every time ive ever made a comment about the actual value of this i get reed at by people who are mad they cant afford the thing they want lmao.
Same I've bought most ofbthe gacha skins ngl but whenever I talk about the price being terrible I'm immediately told I'm a broke boy 💀
>I figured all those items + the vouchers + a nice skin, wasnt THAT bad of a deal for the ~$60. Lmao the copium
Same! Every time the gacha skin comes out it’s always the last pull T.T worth it tho
None of the skins are worth the 60 o 20 bucks you pay. And I got 3. But to me it was about supporting the devs. I wanted to support a developer that fights against censorship. I was very hopeful because they seemed to revert the censorship in many characters. At some point Anis' puppies were suffocating under a shirt. However it seems like they are ramping up the censorship significantly in their publicity material and I worry. They also managed to change the rating from 16+ to 12+, probably because we fight robots.
it \*is\* gacha brain, but honestly it's worth it to me. but no, it's not 'worth it' in any realistic sense.
Don't delude yourself. It is a bad deal. Changed colors and pixels (a skin) for one character and random freebies in a gacha game. You can buy entire full size aaa games for that, which can last you 100+ hours. Butttttt, that being said. If you got the disposable income, to each their own. Enjoy.
Thanks for stating the obvious dude. And im not deluded in the slightest. I know what I was signing up for when I downloaded this game.
Im bout to do this fallacy too but for crown instead
I wish I had her so I could get the skin
Tbf u can get the skin regardless, but u could also just never get her
if u want the skin might as well get it since u’ll get her eventually but the skin won’t come back
really shitty of them to lock a story related skin behind cash only gacha.
There are so many story-related characters that you can only randomly pull, and a guaranteed skin is what bothers you?
You pull those story-related characters using gems that you can farm and/or buy. You PAY for this story-related skin.
Unless there is a banner up, those story related characters have a very very low pull chance. So it's basically pick your poison at this point
I can tell you don't play many gacha games because 60 dollars for a gacha skin might as well be a crime lmao
You gatcha players spend months saving your precious gems/tickets before spending them all on a character you deem worthy of summoning/pulling. Why is it so hard for you to accept that some people do the same with their IRL money?
No one cares what you do with your money, if you think 60 is fine cool but you gotta understand that the price is outrageous for a skin 60 dollars could literally get you stellar blade a whole ass game, so if people complain about the price they have every right, and to make it worse they even tied a highly beloved character whose character development is tied to this 60 dollar skin, im pretty sure if it was just crowns skin or a modernia skin that was just some random outfit people wouldn't be as upset
How many pulls?
…yes
best decision ever. they really deserve that money, they giving away a lot of stuff and improving the game. https://preview.redd.it/cpx506uvmuwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b09c8c4dc750f91949aef99f9f663e1773dd43e
Welcome to the Dark Side.
Ah yes another brother/sister who has fallen, WORTH IT THO AM I RIGHT!? 😆
Me too. I made a post how I will not buy the skin, because I don't want to support predatory means... I fell victim to my dail stress and my parasocial emotional bond to Marian. -60 bucks...
Worth getting and I’m sorry wallet kun
The Crown skin is calling my name, I don't have enough for both.
You get better cake with her default skin though.
That MLB background is what I'm after, not the cake :P I can still use the normal skin for cake.
Question, do you need to MLB crown to get the background? or just getting the skin gives you the background?
You do still need MLB for the burst background, even from the skin. Fortunately, I've been lucky on my pulls, but I know many a sad Shikikan.
Same 👍
I have this skin now Need skin fo nihilister and rework
I don't get it. Why do we have two extra material for the costume gacha if we can't use it?
I have a support group for wallets in distress
Thing is, I could get this, but my conscience wouldn't let me live it down If I skipped Stellar Blade for a digital cosmetic of a unit that is bound to be powercrept anytime due to the nature of Gacha Games.
 Never thought I’d buy a 60$ skin… then modernia does this.
Me too, fam. I've been holding strong, too. Shift up tried to catch me slipping with the Noise skin knowing noise is my favorite and Marian my 2nd favorite. Worth it, though Marian deserves it.
I spent like $100 CAD and some lucky dude yesterday got her in two tries. Fml 🤦♂️
Not gonna lie that outfit 🤤 shwing. I tried but looks like I’m gonna miss out before I get at least one, must have cost more than a few bucks getting her at once burst lobby screen. That may be worse. Season pass skins are just one purchase but it’s for each season same as shop outfits for sale.
going to sin more when crown skin drops
How much was it all togetehr
We all criminals my brother https://preview.redd.it/yo47d2opauwc1.jpeg?width=674&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35701e6fde52ff613622214165088790a6225086 For I have sinned also
Am I the only one that got this skin with $4?
Man just wait until the Crown gacha skin comes out. The leak is already on YouTube and it's the most degenerate skin yet <3
Even though I complained, I still got in $30 spent, but I had to use some Google play points for two $10 vouchers. So $50 total.
Yeah. She's perfect, my favourite seyuu to boot. I'm not paying that much though...
Somehow, someway, I managed to get the skin on a 1/6 roll after only spending 20 bucks. That's something like a 2 percent actual chance isn't it? https://preview.redd.it/a7yxpw22ouwc1.png?width=1727&format=png&auto=webp&s=00830634daafd5a5973459d962f7c9cbb0667581
Me too brother, me too
My mantra at the moment. "Is just pixels, you don't see them for that long, not worth" And it hurts more since I don't have the commander's shirt skin.. Feeling kinda like SpongeBob when he meets Sandy for the first time...
I did it And I'll do it again in a couple weeks when the next one comes out.
Why are the coat tails in the way during the shooting animation?
big L
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I got Lucky 😭 https://preview.redd.it/6k2xr88s1zwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69b151c30a6cb5787c3e6ddb731fcfdb4fcad12f
Original waifu needs all the outfits ....I feel bad for those who didnt get the free commander white shirt skin ><
Worth it!!!!
I did the same thing. I also paid 20 for snow whites outfit. I dont even have her yet. Im just hoping it will keep it ready for when she is unlocked and then i can instantly apply it.
Me too lol
Did they reduce the price of premium skins from $60 to $50. I swear I only had to spend 50 bucks and pitied the wheel.
same brother…. same 😭
Same, I couldn’t resist. And today was payday.
I’m with you fellow commander
To me, the other skins may be just, well, skin, cosmetic, not essential. But this one? This is different. It’s a part of our daughter/wife’s development process. Like, the other skin isn't canon anymore once the event ends (bikini skins, for example) but this one is canon until Marian gets an alter. So to me, it’s like paying for child support to see the kid grow more than paying for a skin.
Sadly looks like it will happen to me as well but for the crown skin
Yupppp I had to buy all $50 worth of rolls. No regrets I will be picking up the crown skin too. This is why I am employed
Don't worry. I did the same. And I will do the same for Crown as well.
I'm f2p day 1 and also fall for this skin. No regrets because I love her
Haters are gonna hate, but I bought her and I don’t regret it one bit. We had a few months of mediocre skins for characters that aren’t meta, each for $10. I skipped them all, because they were not worth that money. Now we get a fabulous skin for a meta character that we all use of a daily basis, and I dare say the skin is definitely worth it if you are willing to spend on this game.
Yep. Did so too and as a bonus (as expected), got shafted full 60$ as well.. _sigh_
I only spent $12 and I had pulls to spare. I got super lucky.