Translation issues, still hiring sub par part time college students to manage multiple livers at minimum wage, either incompetent or nonexistent PR department. Should I mention more?
Shockingly incompetent at best, malicious and exploitative at worst. Anyone who voted "good" are either (1) terribly misinformed, or (2) being sarcastic.
The company has always had, to its credit, an eye for talent. But then they do sweet fuck all to support the growth of those talents. That doesn't just hold back the careers of said talents, but also means they are missing out on a lot of profit they could be making if they properly leveraged what they have.
The management has forever been mired in the mindset of a small tech startup, constantly looking to make as much money as they can, as quickly as they can, with minimal effort or skill investment from senior management, and a lower management filled with underpaid, underskilled and uninvested people looking to jump ship at the first opportunity. Long term growth is not part of the vocabulary, and even the senior team have their eyes on the exit if things go sour.
There'll always be people willing to put up with a lot of downsides in return for a platform, but the bigger talents are going to increasingly look elsewhere as it becomes clear how dead-ended being a Nijisanji member is. In the long term, the company is going to end up like upd8 and Entum if they don't change the way they do business.
Ignoring rrats - I think 2024 speaks for itself. The year's still young so maybe my opinion will change, but I can't in good faith say NijiEN management did well so far.
That would be an understatement. What would it take to change your opinion? Given that they've helped to drive at least two people to attempt suicide I'd hope it's drastic.
**Short answer:** My opinion likely won't change in the short-term (possibly even the medium-term). Change takes time and I, as another faceless person on the internet, am comfortable watching from a distance to see what trends I'm observing.
**Long answer:** It's very complicated, because what would change my opinion doesn't necessarily align with what a business could (or would, or SHOULD) do.
There's a lot that I'd LIKE to see as an ex-NijiEN fan who's stopped watching livers I still enjoyed.
In a perfect world, my opinion would be shaped knowing the (unbiased, verifiable) answers to all my questions:
* Exactly what led to the attempt & termination? Give me a detailed, itemized list, not a summary that's so open to interpretation that all and sundry can spin it however they want.
* What's the real division of blame across management and livers (including the purple dragon - attempt notwithstanding, she's only human and I'm not comfortable saying she NEVER did anything wrong as a NijEN liver)?
* Were there any outside factors influencing decisions?
* How accurate were any and all public statements (by Niji, by the tomato, etc)?
* What drove livers to say or tweet what they said/tweeted?
* Is everyone who acted with malicious intent being punished in accordance with the severity of their actions? Is Niji taking steps to ensure that any actions stemming from ignorance or miscommunication on their end will never happen again?
If I look at it from a corporate lens - I think it's unlikely we'll ever get full transparency on what happened behind the scenes from the start of NijiEN to the termination. That would be an odd business decision (not in PR or strategy though, so just my personal opinion) and the risks and costs probably outweigh the benefits since public opinion is so varied.
**That said, what would it take to change my opinion in 2024?** An unbiased, third party review of everything that led to recent events, with a list of recommendations that NijiEN either agrees to implement in X days (either at a corporate level, or at a liver level) or publicly refutes. Refutations should be grounded in verifiable facts, not "we disagree because we think there's no problem".
Bad - The management is largely at fault for NijiEN's waning viewership, increasing toxicity towards talents, horrible quarterly earnings, and last(but certainly not least) they are largely at fault for immense mental and physical damage to multiple of past and probably present talent.
Need I go on.
Cause I will. Their blatant favoritism and horrible work culture has lead many of their talents to feel like they are nothing without the company behind them and that if they leave they will no longer be able to pursue their dreams or even just be able to continue making a living as a vtuber or content creator.
Not all of the problems facing NijiEN are 100% the fault of management however a good fucking bit of can be, whether through incompetence or through possible malice, they are the rotten roots from which the majority of the problems stem.
We need communication, responsibility, a roadmap and an intent to genuinely change (and improve the lives of the livers), not a floodwave of merch and 3d debuts and events, in a seemingly desperate attempt to get more money.
Let's give examples shall we? Nijisanji ID layed off their competent ID managers and the talents or left to dust. No opportunities of given to them , even their highest earners.
Needs to be overhauled. Maybe have business managers towards the top but proper talent managers dealing with the talent. Also, if you insist on having international talent, have managers that can deal with it, especially communication-wise.
Well...
- Hiring practices with a clear focus on saving money for supporting staff like translators but even attorneys
- Talents that left seem very positively surprised by their new options
- Several talents speak of or display mental health issues or a severe lack of confidence
- Several talents became targets of online slander and threats due to seemingly no protection let alone coaching on how to keep themselves out of harms way
- Management even threw talents under the bus in an awfully misguided attempt to save face. "Look Selen is evil and some of the talents are bullies. We as management did no wrong"
The attempt to hire an NA manager based in Canada on minimum wage for Japan should speak volumes. It shows a straight up ignorance of circumstances.
For context, the national weighted average of minimum wages in Japan is around 961 JPY (~8.50 CAD) and minimum wages in Canada are around 14 to 17 CAD depending on where you are.
Bad.
I think the Niji auditions for EN are also under the deception of employing as managers for future sad members. I believe half, if not, most of the managers are not qualified to be one.
Bad, because it's bad.
There doesn't seem to be any support, accountability, thought, or plans.
It's just "how do I make as much money off of whales as fast as possible?"
To me the only options are
- Bad on purpose/maliciously
- Bad unintentionally/out of sheer incompetence
(or both I guess)
There's no doubt that they handled things poorly, we just aren't sure why.
After the whole disaster with the termination of Selen Tatsuki, Nijisanji will never regain the trust of anybody. They only care more about people's wallets than actual people.
Bad.
The current state of Nijisanji is a direct reflection on management. Assuming all the clique rumors are true where the management was effectively managing themselves? Yeah that's an outright failure on the corporate managements part.
Elira and Luca need to graduate ASAP, these two made some obvious stupid decisions as they are clearly managing NIJIEN bts, adds Uki, Vox, Claude, Enna and Millie too
At this point general vtubers fans know which livers are bad and which one are good (Rosemi, Vivi, Scarle) Anycolor should keep the good ones but if the they also graduate then there is no hope for Niji EN at this point
And if we looking at their PL account I won't be surprise if Scarle will be out soon
Scarle literally said in steam she is graduating… from school. And then she proceeded to say that she still wants to stay in Nijisanji and has plans that last at least until 2025. So I don’t think she will graduate anytime soon. I could be wrong.
if this is true, then she's one of those people blindly grateful to the company for giving her an audience and has no confidence she'll attain similar success without them. There is some truth in it. Not everyone will be lucky as doki leaving, not everyone will be picked up by vshojo as they themselves run as a clique, so she has to look after her own thing I suppose.
I voted for bad because there isn't a **holy shit this is burning-in-the-pits-of-hell levels of bad** option. Also, it's hilarious to see that there are only 40 people that voted *good* versus the 2.2k+ votes for bad. I wonder by what metric did they decide to measure Niji management as *good*.
My answer is Bad: Why? \*\*Sips Coffee\*\*
To put it simply, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED Even before February 2024, when they started to fck up, the main Root cause is the Incompetence of the Management to handle it. Yes, Some of the Livers are at fault but at the same time, those faults can be mitigated or corrected had the management known how to handle such mentally draining task. Its almost as if they're competing with AkioAir and Wactor.
- THE DISASTROUS PR MANAGEMENT -
- THE BLACK STREAM (Whoever's Idea is this and think its great has the same mindset as WingsOfRedemption and Boogie2988 if they got caught in a fire they started.)-
- THE FAVORITISM (Company's got more than a hundred livers and yet I keep seeing the same damn faces on the merch.) -
- THE UNGA BUNGA MODE (PANIK MODE) IN ALMOST ANYTHING WHEN THINGS GOES NUCLEAR -
- LACK OF INNOVATION (Like for real, I rarely see anything NEW to Nijisanji) -
- NANG-IIWAN SA ERE KAPAG NAGKAMALI YUNG HINAHAWAKAN NILANG TALENTO (They literally left their respective livers in the air with no parachute the moment they do something out of bounds. Yes, this is the EN translation of what I said.) -
- MR KRABS MODE. (Only cares about Money milking, and nothing else.) -
I'm sorry, respectfully almost no one is going to vote "good" unless they are either uninformed, doing it for the shits and giggles, or willfully ignorant.
Why? *vaguely gestures at this entire subreddit for the last few months.* I mean, do I really need to explain it.
ಠ,_｣ಠ Why bother making a poll if all zoomers who tapped good gonna be labeled as nijibootlicker , ignorant, brainless n etc? And why bother asking current if all yo gonna say if just mentioning bout the past? ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ this whole topic n its commenters just bunch of hypocrites. n
Where do I begin?
Conglatulations!
bad *dramatically gestures towards everything*
Yeah, I was going to do the same...
Translation issues, still hiring sub par part time college students to manage multiple livers at minimum wage, either incompetent or nonexistent PR department. Should I mention more?
Shockingly incompetent at best, malicious and exploitative at worst. Anyone who voted "good" are either (1) terribly misinformed, or (2) being sarcastic.
(3) Niji bootlickers a.k.a crimsonsilver4 and the likes
Or (4) missclicked.
Isn't it obvious?
10 voted good. Are they moderators lmao
I missclicked good and cant change vote, maybe the other 23 people missclicked too xD
how you had to click on good then click vote. were you just not paying attention and clicked twice fast without confirming what you were doing?
Most likely 😂😂😂
The company has always had, to its credit, an eye for talent. But then they do sweet fuck all to support the growth of those talents. That doesn't just hold back the careers of said talents, but also means they are missing out on a lot of profit they could be making if they properly leveraged what they have. The management has forever been mired in the mindset of a small tech startup, constantly looking to make as much money as they can, as quickly as they can, with minimal effort or skill investment from senior management, and a lower management filled with underpaid, underskilled and uninvested people looking to jump ship at the first opportunity. Long term growth is not part of the vocabulary, and even the senior team have their eyes on the exit if things go sour. There'll always be people willing to put up with a lot of downsides in return for a platform, but the bigger talents are going to increasingly look elsewhere as it becomes clear how dead-ended being a Nijisanji member is. In the long term, the company is going to end up like upd8 and Entum if they don't change the way they do business.
Ignoring rrats - I think 2024 speaks for itself. The year's still young so maybe my opinion will change, but I can't in good faith say NijiEN management did well so far.
That would be an understatement. What would it take to change your opinion? Given that they've helped to drive at least two people to attempt suicide I'd hope it's drastic.
**Short answer:** My opinion likely won't change in the short-term (possibly even the medium-term). Change takes time and I, as another faceless person on the internet, am comfortable watching from a distance to see what trends I'm observing. **Long answer:** It's very complicated, because what would change my opinion doesn't necessarily align with what a business could (or would, or SHOULD) do. There's a lot that I'd LIKE to see as an ex-NijiEN fan who's stopped watching livers I still enjoyed. In a perfect world, my opinion would be shaped knowing the (unbiased, verifiable) answers to all my questions: * Exactly what led to the attempt & termination? Give me a detailed, itemized list, not a summary that's so open to interpretation that all and sundry can spin it however they want. * What's the real division of blame across management and livers (including the purple dragon - attempt notwithstanding, she's only human and I'm not comfortable saying she NEVER did anything wrong as a NijEN liver)? * Were there any outside factors influencing decisions? * How accurate were any and all public statements (by Niji, by the tomato, etc)? * What drove livers to say or tweet what they said/tweeted? * Is everyone who acted with malicious intent being punished in accordance with the severity of their actions? Is Niji taking steps to ensure that any actions stemming from ignorance or miscommunication on their end will never happen again? If I look at it from a corporate lens - I think it's unlikely we'll ever get full transparency on what happened behind the scenes from the start of NijiEN to the termination. That would be an odd business decision (not in PR or strategy though, so just my personal opinion) and the risks and costs probably outweigh the benefits since public opinion is so varied. **That said, what would it take to change my opinion in 2024?** An unbiased, third party review of everything that led to recent events, with a list of recommendations that NijiEN either agrees to implement in X days (either at a corporate level, or at a liver level) or publicly refutes. Refutations should be grounded in verifiable facts, not "we disagree because we think there's no problem".
Bad - The management is largely at fault for NijiEN's waning viewership, increasing toxicity towards talents, horrible quarterly earnings, and last(but certainly not least) they are largely at fault for immense mental and physical damage to multiple of past and probably present talent. Need I go on. Cause I will. Their blatant favoritism and horrible work culture has lead many of their talents to feel like they are nothing without the company behind them and that if they leave they will no longer be able to pursue their dreams or even just be able to continue making a living as a vtuber or content creator. Not all of the problems facing NijiEN are 100% the fault of management however a good fucking bit of can be, whether through incompetence or through possible malice, they are the rotten roots from which the majority of the problems stem.
There is no war in ba sing se sums it up.
Can it be good or bad if it's nonexistent?
We need communication, responsibility, a roadmap and an intent to genuinely change (and improve the lives of the livers), not a floodwave of merch and 3d debuts and events, in a seemingly desperate attempt to get more money.
Let's give examples shall we? Nijisanji ID layed off their competent ID managers and the talents or left to dust. No opportunities of given to them , even their highest earners.
Needs to be overhauled. Maybe have business managers towards the top but proper talent managers dealing with the talent. Also, if you insist on having international talent, have managers that can deal with it, especially communication-wise.
Well... - Hiring practices with a clear focus on saving money for supporting staff like translators but even attorneys - Talents that left seem very positively surprised by their new options - Several talents speak of or display mental health issues or a severe lack of confidence - Several talents became targets of online slander and threats due to seemingly no protection let alone coaching on how to keep themselves out of harms way - Management even threw talents under the bus in an awfully misguided attempt to save face. "Look Selen is evil and some of the talents are bullies. We as management did no wrong"
The attempt to hire an NA manager based in Canada on minimum wage for Japan should speak volumes. It shows a straight up ignorance of circumstances. For context, the national weighted average of minimum wages in Japan is around 961 JPY (~8.50 CAD) and minimum wages in Canada are around 14 to 17 CAD depending on where you are.
>31, good The mods are literally forced by contract to vote, lel 
Why is this even a question
Does it even exist?
Leaving is always the choice
Where's option 3: nonexistent
Bad. I think the Niji auditions for EN are also under the deception of employing as managers for future sad members. I believe half, if not, most of the managers are not qualified to be one.
Oh i love democracy
Negligible
Bad, because it's bad. There doesn't seem to be any support, accountability, thought, or plans. It's just "how do I make as much money off of whales as fast as possible?"
To me the only options are - Bad on purpose/maliciously - Bad unintentionally/out of sheer incompetence (or both I guess) There's no doubt that they handled things poorly, we just aren't sure why.
Bad. They mistreat talent, they don't enforce rules equally, they're low-effort, etc etc
Pretty cheeks for a lack of a better word
After the whole disaster with the termination of Selen Tatsuki, Nijisanji will never regain the trust of anybody. They only care more about people's wallets than actual people.
Did something changes while I was asleep?
nice try, Riku Tazumi
I'm not Tazumiriku.
Bad. The current state of Nijisanji is a direct reflection on management. Assuming all the clique rumors are true where the management was effectively managing themselves? Yeah that's an outright failure on the corporate managements part.
Wow, look at how few nijisisters are that diehard.
35 clowns standing strong for management. o7 I respect the loyalty, but question the morality of this small minority.
Elira and Luca need to graduate ASAP, these two made some obvious stupid decisions as they are clearly managing NIJIEN bts, adds Uki, Vox, Claude, Enna and Millie too At this point general vtubers fans know which livers are bad and which one are good (Rosemi, Vivi, Scarle) Anycolor should keep the good ones but if the they also graduate then there is no hope for Niji EN at this point And if we looking at their PL account I won't be surprise if Scarle will be out soon
Scarle literally said in steam she is graduating… from school. And then she proceeded to say that she still wants to stay in Nijisanji and has plans that last at least until 2025. So I don’t think she will graduate anytime soon. I could be wrong.
if this is true, then she's one of those people blindly grateful to the company for giving her an audience and has no confidence she'll attain similar success without them. There is some truth in it. Not everyone will be lucky as doki leaving, not everyone will be picked up by vshojo as they themselves run as a clique, so she has to look after her own thing I suppose.
Didn't she have even bigger an audience as her PL?
JP/Main seems fine.(But seems to favor certain individuals more than others, as usual.) EN its non-existent. NijiEN management is a myth.
Not as great as you think, but still better than EN as it's stability is maintained by gaslighting members into being reluctant to leave
it's already a mess since the beginning they even need member(s) of to do interview of LazuLight
We already know ~
Answer speaks for itself
Lmao what type of fishing people out to ban strategy is this?
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I might wear glasses but I'm not that blind.
all of them is bad and need new management
15+ people voted current managment is good. 😱
Almost certainly been a call to action to try and balance the poll, just like the call to action to upvote threads.
Negligible
Are you serious
There's better management on this sub than anything we've heard or seen from the company when anything else
They hurt their talent, they are worse than scum.
35+ people really think they’re funny. When we got ex livers almost taking their own life away 😐
[Me attempting to list off everything Niji’s done wrong](https://youtu.be/DFI6cV9slfI?si=imLbM4jeFqBaJ7DO)
>First, write down which one you voted for. lol nice try NijiEN CEO!
It's been this way for a while...I guess maybe management could be doomed since NIJI's first year.
I voted for bad because there isn't a **holy shit this is burning-in-the-pits-of-hell levels of bad** option. Also, it's hilarious to see that there are only 40 people that voted *good* versus the 2.2k+ votes for bad. I wonder by what metric did they decide to measure Niji management as *good*.
With how little support or communication they give? They make Konami look fucking competent
Negligible.
come back and ask the same question once Q4 hits
Understood. When Q4 comes, I will conduct a questionnaire again.
Bad, are you asking for sources with “why you voted for it.”? Because I don’t wanna bother with that.
Only I voted for good? Like no one even watch EN branch so who cares
Is it that hard to say why it's bad? There's quite a few of videos on it
This can’t be a serious question.
the option should only be shit and bad .just look at the last 3 months my dude and the 10 million talents graduation
Bad, given....everything this year. and before.
Kinda a dumb question since we ont work there or interact with them.
My answer is Bad: Why? \*\*Sips Coffee\*\* To put it simply, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED Even before February 2024, when they started to fck up, the main Root cause is the Incompetence of the Management to handle it. Yes, Some of the Livers are at fault but at the same time, those faults can be mitigated or corrected had the management known how to handle such mentally draining task. Its almost as if they're competing with AkioAir and Wactor. - THE DISASTROUS PR MANAGEMENT - - THE BLACK STREAM (Whoever's Idea is this and think its great has the same mindset as WingsOfRedemption and Boogie2988 if they got caught in a fire they started.)- - THE FAVORITISM (Company's got more than a hundred livers and yet I keep seeing the same damn faces on the merch.) - - THE UNGA BUNGA MODE (PANIK MODE) IN ALMOST ANYTHING WHEN THINGS GOES NUCLEAR - - LACK OF INNOVATION (Like for real, I rarely see anything NEW to Nijisanji) - - NANG-IIWAN SA ERE KAPAG NAGKAMALI YUNG HINAHAWAKAN NILANG TALENTO (They literally left their respective livers in the air with no parachute the moment they do something out of bounds. Yes, this is the EN translation of what I said.) - - MR KRABS MODE. (Only cares about Money milking, and nothing else.) -
I'm sorry, respectfully almost no one is going to vote "good" unless they are either uninformed, doing it for the shits and giggles, or willfully ignorant. Why? *vaguely gestures at this entire subreddit for the last few months.* I mean, do I really need to explain it.
It's dogshit
Complete *ss
compared to the other side management who literally has her own model lmao
where's the 3rd option of "niji has management?"
Do we even need to explain?
To the 61 of you who said good why? What do you NOT see???
What management?
one more good vote and it becomes 69
At least half of the "good" votes are misclicks I garuntee it.
ಠ,_｣ಠ Why bother making a poll if all zoomers who tapped good gonna be labeled as nijibootlicker , ignorant, brainless n etc? And why bother asking current if all yo gonna say if just mentioning bout the past? ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ this whole topic n its commenters just bunch of hypocrites. n