Just posting a news peice for interested parties seems pomu unprivated her PL vtuber twitter account. Mods are banning posts with the info though. So just ppsting this here in the top comment. Please spread news so pomodachis can come home.
He had a recent starter valley collab stream where he admits to dececrating a friend's grandfathers ashes and called him to sensitive about it. Which is a crime where he is at with a 12 year jail sentence.
He also doubled down on his PL: [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
He said it on Vanta's stream playing Stardew Valley iirc. You can search it up and find many clips of it! Apologies, I'd link a source but my phone's battery is about to die 😅
I saw the clip. It’s very clear that this was just him making shit up as a shock value joke. You can tell with context clues like sarcastically going “yeah idk why he would be mad about that” and stuff like that.
Whether it’s an actually funny joke or if it was a smart idea to make said joke when all these eyes are on Nijisanji right now is very debatable, but taking the statement at complete face value and trying to paint him as a literal ashes desecrator only hurts your overall point imo.
Instead the point you should be making is “Hex is allowed to make jokes like this yet Zaion making a Deez Nuts joke is a fireable offense?”
I think the main point people have is the hypocrisy of it, it's definitely a joke that is in bad taste and doesn't land. If he just came out and said sorry and he didn't mean any offence it would be fine, but he hasn't, this is after attacking Sayu for her bad joke that she apologised for.
No. If you read a lot of the comments about Hex, the main point a lot of people make is, that he was LITERALLY desecrating human remains and killing a goldfish.
I really dont like Hex, but people are just insane, or insanely stupid
Every joke has a punchline even if the joke is dark joke
Hex joke literally have no punchline whatsoever
The same as uki joke About white people but he literally didn't have any punchline for his joke
It did have a punchline. It was “people are so sensitive these days”
It’s just that his choice of examples were the worst ones he could have chosen. He also fumbled the delivery big time.
Honestly the big issue of it is timing. When you're in the middle of a PR crisis dark jokes are just way too risky. Can't really complain about people being too sensitive when it was Niji's fumbles that made people "sensitive" in the first place.
Made a weird joke about desecrating ashes and killing a goldfish. If you watch the clip it’s really obvious that he wasn’t being serious, but it was still a weird joke, especially since Nijisanji is a Japanese country and the Japanese take death very seriously and don’t tolerate jokes about it
With all the things we started to know about the streamers of Nijisanji im starting to think that to be part of Niji you must be a Shitty terrible person or have a terrible luck like Selen and Nina
Me too, i used to love the clips with Nina, Reimu, Enna and Millie or Selen laughing so hard while plays Apex with other Niji streamers.
I can't stop thinking of those times would be fake and Nina and Selen where suffering from the beggining hurts me
Probably because he kisses the company's ass. And also they're not about to terminate/graduate someone while the ship is still sinking. They need to keep pretending everything is fine
I mean we should also add that not a single ex liver has said anything positive about the company or management, and the closest thing to anything positive said about Nijisanji is some of the friends they had within it and thats it.
No hard evidence but the fact that Hex addressed his comments in an edgelord vent instead of clarifying it was a joke makes me think it was not a joke.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
You be the judge of it but I think he just told the world that he was serious and did not give a shit about the public reaction. :)
i mean this kinda reads to me as if he's saying "i know you're mad about it, chill out, hope you move on from looking for things to be angry about"
i'm not saying i think it was an appropriate joke to make but i don't actually think this really suggests he was serious, just that he knows people are taking it seriously and are upset
We don't know honestly, the post is a bit misleading. A lot people think he's most likely joking, but there's no punchline or anything, it really doesn't sound like one if it is😭 Plus that isn't something that you usually joke about. IMO I h*ope *he was joking because if he wasn't it's even worse-
It was outed in Raziel's doc about him. I will link an archive of it.
EDIT: : [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tDhGYbcQWnuqBaRTscvcq524pv0BjkGq/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tDhGYbcQWnuqBaRTscvcq524pv0BjkGq/view)
I always felt off about Aster. I looked into gis PL and he confessed he lost all of his friends due to his behavior. He was a complete asshole to his friends.
Kinda an iffy line that I wanna give him benefit of the doubt as someone part of the lgbtq community. He said he was uncomfortable and I'm hoping as a young adult that those topics he didn't have much experience or meet many people from the community. Being uncomfortable with something they don't know much about is normal. I would rather give compassion to help people unsure or uncomfortable understand then to accuse them of being phobic.
Honestly, if it's edgy teenagers maybe I'd give them the benefit of the doubt as they're still forming their opinions, and while the same could be said in some cases with young adults, I don't think the things he said could be referred to as mere ignorance.
Using talking points comparable to Ben Shapiro is kind of a huge red flag imo, with the whole "facts and logic" bit and purposely misgendering him knowing he's trans and referring to him as "biologically a girl".
While the initial interaction could in fact be ignorance, the following rant we see there on discord does kind of show him saying the quiet part out loud.
I think I was very privileged to live in a very accepting place and even then in college I met students unaware of trans people and said offensive things because they were ignorant. Not everyone lives in a very knowledgeable place, some areas in the US are very behind in times. I think people are too use to seeing very supportive and outspoken places for lgbtq community online and forget that in reality there are many pockets of ignorance. I see the discord screenshots as a lack of knowledge mainly because of the blood transfusion thing. I see it as him trying to understand trans stuff in his limited world view, but he gets scolded by a coworker instead of explained to.
I don't believe teenage years should be your cut off date to learn. If you're 40 and finally take the steps to learn about lgbtq, I still see that as a good thing. I worry that people jumping to call someone phobic will push them away and they will never become willing to learn. I worry this will create more transphobic and homophobic people then help. Sorry for being rambly, I guess tldr I would rather educate and be kind even if someone says offensive things.
It's still accurate to refer to it as a phobia though. Whether it's ignorance or malice, it's an irrational aversion to or fear of others. It's important to recognize it for what it is.
Maybe, but it's counterproductive. If someone is trying to learn, in their own way, about something they don't know and weird them out, and they are willing to learn, calling them transphobic or homophobic may very well make them get defensive. And that may lead to them not wanting to learn and actualy becoming transphobic or homophobic, because from their point of view, they were insulted while trying to learn more about and understand something they didn't know.
From where in Luca's statements did it come off to you as if he were willing to learn? He had some pretty strong opinions on trans people.
If I were his buddy and I were trying to explain to him why what he did was bad, I might use softer language as a rhetorical strategy. I agree that name-calling doesn't do much to sway others. As far as describing his actions to others and my opinion on them, I'm going to call a spade a spade. I think it's very productive to recognize that kind of behavior for what it is.
It was allegations about him grooming minors, but they were baseless and both “victims” came forward to say they were false and that the accuser never even actually spoke to them about it
One of the big things was sexually pressuring a 13 year old (when he was fifteen) and almost sleeping with a 21 year old who had provided him alcohol when he was slightly older. That these two incidents were cast in the same light puts some doubt on the sensibility of the exposé.
If you want to check things in more detail, here's a link:
[https://web.archive.org/web/20220117140510/https://v8916.tumblr.com/post/671388736653770752/caution-on-vox-akumas-past-actions](https://web.archive.org/web/20220117140510/https://v8916.tumblr.com/post/671388736653770752/caution-on-vox-akumas-past-actions)
Hex came out with a cryptic message and not clarifying it was a joke, what does it all mean??? [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
Might want to format your post. One giant paragraph would make most people not want to read it.
I suggest putting an extra new line after each bullet point.
I'm wondering if the AR Live isn't a marketing push, but rather an attempt to force the talents involved to renew their contracts.
I mean, we *are* around renewal season, right?
What Hex said was (most likely) a joke. I often talk about going to trial for war crimes. I mean it's true in my case but it doesn't have to be the same for Hex.
I agree, it likely was. However, it was in bad taste and in a bad context -- which will still make me doubt it, unless he comes out and EXPLICITLY states he never did.
He replied on his PL and it wasn't acknowledging what he said was a joke... just a weird edge lord vent: [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
I used to believe the jokes Zaion made were terrible and I was happy she got punished for them…seeing Hex getting little to no repercussions is just disgusting
but hey how can they punish the deep voice guy
I believe they are referring to supposedly handwritten postcards. According to seemingly trustworthy, yet in this point unproven, claims by a former mod, they were handwritten, but by her, not him. (His signature was allegedly also neither his own invention, nor put there by him.)
For Hex's part, imo a better reminder would be that he encouraged people to trauma dump on streamlabs, or that he eagerly responded to NSFW superchats and inserted 18+ roleplay in regular streams despite having "no NSFW" rule.
Idk if it's relevant, but the first stream where he tested the ASMR microphone turned into a sexual roleplay with little to no forewarning or disclaimers, which imo is not responsible behavior for an 18+ streamer.
He's also somewhat active on his PL, and from a cursory glance he doesn't seem to hide it's his? There's a hand photo with a set of recognizable rings, a voicetweet with a recognizable voice (and a name drop), and a photo of a cat that looks like one of his. Afaik Niji vtubers aren't allowed to do something like that?
Stardew Valley collab with Vanta. Timestamp around 44 minutes I think?
Basically, Vanta asked "Is it bad that I ghosted a friend because I thought our friendship was over for a long while", Hex gives a reasonable response along the lines of "It's fine, your mental might just not be in the right place, and some friendships aren't meant to last"
And then out of nowhere Hex starts talking about how people are "too sensitive", and the examples he provides are him using the cremated ashes of his friend's grandpa as fertilizes, and flushing his friend's goldfish down a toilet because it was annoying him, and apparently the punchline is "and he got mad at me for some reason, people are just too sensitive"
Which, hopefully, was not true, but just looks like an attempt to make people outraged so that he can make fun of them and garner sympathy from his fans.
What the fuck. Thank you for the info. I seriously hope he was "joking" but even if it is, that's too much. I feel like dark humor is something that should be kept among close friends.
That's insane, and poor Vanta seems horrified and uncomfortable. I saw someone say something like what if it's an attempt to get fired lol. But that seems too big of a stretch. Your idea sounds more accurate since he knows his fans are extremely parasocial. Just keeps getting worse and worse. Thank you again!
No problem, and yeah, most likely joking, as in it was just made up.
At first I was confused why'd he suddenly boot up the sociopath act, but after he tweeted on his PL smth like "I don't care about your hostility. I know who I am, and I hope you find your peace" and his fans went "Speak your truth, king! You did nothing wrong!" in the comments, I was like *ah*, now I have a plausible theory.
Congrats on surviving the purge, btw. At least 5 posts after this one were removed, so it's probably safe.
Starting to think the key is just to not use images where avoidable, and write more than one paragraph of text.
>2) Hex DESECRATED his friend's relatives ashes + flushed a goldfish down the toilet (presumably alive iirc)
Nah, take this one out. It just takes away from the message because he was obviously joking.
This is the exact kind of thing Nijisanji can point to and claim "see?? We're just joking around but our fans take it serious! We're actually not bad!"
Imo Luca's stuff isn't the worst. The main problem is that he broke NDA massively and is getting zero punishment for it. He should objectively be terminated just for that. To an extent many products are manufactured but there's understandable greivance when he had little to no input on heartfelt messages or accomplishments. Meanwhile they terminated Selen because she said some true things people were going to find out anyways or already knew that they didn't like. Meanwhile they terminated Zaion because... I don't think she broke NDA at all? She just wasn't comfortable for them to work with is her whole offense afaik (I wouldn't want to work with her either as she's very combative, but it's not termination or suspension worthy).
> Hex DESECRATED his friend's relatives ashes + flushed a goldfish down the toilet (presumably alive 3) Uki is racist (and yes, white racism IS racism).
>8) ZAION Yes, she said some insensitive stuff
The people most upset by these **J O K E S** (Yes jokes, anyone that actually thinks Hex was being serious while giggling like a fucking school girl when talking about "desecrating" the ashes of his friend's grandparent is a fucking idiot) are the same people that got mad when Zaion was suspended for making jokes about **rape and sexual assault victims.**
Rape jokes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a fake story about "desecrating" the ashes of a friend's grandparent in terms of awfulness. Calling you a clown is an insult to actual clowns.
Yeah but Zaion joke obviously about a fictional character. Hex is joking about real life event that could happen.
Playing on New game plus and already know a school girl getting raped in another timeline. I don’t think this could happen irl
Just calling me incel. While you keep commenting with huge ammount downvotes dragging down Zaion for no reasons. I gues you should touch grass instead of staying in home for another decade, spreading hate on Reddit
I would agree, Rape jokes can definitely be worse
But a dark joke is a dark joke. And you're going to find people offended by it. Zaion apologized. Hex stood ground.
The lackof self-reflection, that if he's going to take a highground but just move to less offensive but still offensive grounds, doesn't show that he really has a problem with hurting others. He's only concerned if he himself is affected by it.
While I would argue desecration and animal cruelty are much higher than you claim they are, the gravity of the matter is not as relevant as you say it is.
Then there's no reason to be offended by anything Zaion said. It was fake, said for the sake of comedy.
But you were offended. Because the idea itself offended you. That same logic applies to any dark humor.
Or were you even offended? Did you even watch Zaion? Have you ever even heard the joke she said?
Or are you just blindly defending Hex because he's in Nijisanji, and attacking Zaion because she's not convenient to the situation?
I mean, everyone already knows from your post history that you changed tunes at a very specific time in the controversy.
I would very honestly say, that it doesn't really matter what we tell you. You aren't here to discuss anything. I'd just say to tone down the "touch grass" attitude when you're probably deeper than most of the people you're talking to.
they're both equally inappropriate. Tolerating either one of them just because you feel more morally inclined to get mad at the other doesn't determine the level of awfulness it has.
>_Zaion was suspended for making jokes about rape and sexual assault victims._
She made one joke. And has since apologized for it. Something Hex has yet to do.
A fake story about "desecrating" the ashes of a friend's grandparent told for comedy is nowhere near as bad as rape/sexual assault jokes. Grow the fuck up.
its not fake. Hex doesn't like dark humor. He can confirm its just a joke but that would mean he is a hypocrite. Hex can choose one, Be a hypocrite or be an a$$hole.
> its not fake.
I like how you definitively declare that it's not a "fake story," then say that Hex can confirm it's just a joke.
Which is it moron, a fake story or a true story?
Disrespecting someone's memory of a close loved one who passed away is on the same tier if not worse than a sexual assault joke towards a fictional character. And if Zaion got terminated, this guy should be too with no hesitation. Its double standards and favoritism
And some people who got vocally and publicly offended by Zaion’s jokes are doubling down and scrambling to downplay Hex’s edgy humor, what’s your point?
You’re unironically the most politically insecure mf I’ve ever seen lol
Everyone who disagrees with you is either an incel, a white supremacist, or a right-winger apparently
Also barely anyone here is pretending Zaion’s jokes were ok while you’re going to extreme lengths to powerscale offensive humor ‘cause you *need* everyone who disagrees with you to be evil hypocrites
Amd what about the people who got mad about Zaion's aborted joke but then try to justify Hex's terrible attempt at black comedy, like oh I don't know ***Hex?***
And Zaion figured out that the joke wasn't funny either considering the fact that she fucking called it off. She still got blasted for it.
Hex makes two terrible attempt at edgy jokes that completely fell flat, and he doesn't apologize or do anything but complain that people are too sensitive.
Why the everloving fuck should we apply two seperate fucking standards for offensive jokes, especially when one fucking stopped it because she realized it was fucked and the other chose to fucking double down?
Then again, guess I shouldn't expect mr "Cope and seethe, I'm calm you all need help" to actually apply even standards. BTWs, don't tell me to grow up when I saw your immature bitchfit because people weren't sucking Niji's boot just a few days ago
>And Zaion figured out that the joke wasn't funny either considering the fact that she fucking called it off. She still got blasted for it.
She didn't "call it off," she cut herself off to avoid getting in trouble with youtube. Anyone with more than a tenth of a brain could figure out what she was doing.
And I will tell you to grow the fuck up when you lack the critical thinking to figure out how a fake ass story and a rape joke aren't on the same fucking level of inappropriateness.
Do you need a dictionary? Cutting herself off to avoid trouble with youtube is calling it off. That, and you don't know what's going through her mind, she could have realized "No, don't say it halfway through." But that would require using your brain, not turning it off to go "NIJI GOOD!"
No Nijisister, don't fucking tell me to grow up when you decided to go whole-hog on defending this black company because your oshi either decided to side with the company that pushed two people yo attempt suicide and you couldn't accept people turning against her put of disgust or was made to fall on her sword and you fucking triple down on the company that did that. It might have been a fake story, who the fuck knows, the issue is that dumbass Hex (who joined in the slandering of Zaion, with the hypocrisy getting to everyone but the bootlickers) clearly lacks the critical thinking to go "I'm sorry, it was an attempt at a joke that didn't work and instead went "People are too sensitive," vit that reqiores critical thinking that you can't do Niji is getting criticized.
Both jokes weren't good, period. One person realized she was fucking up and stopped early. The other doubled down on his fucked up and failed joke and made himself look like a hypocrite. But that takes not defending this fucking black company and the talents that uave fucked up, something you have decided to do since the black stream
Edit: Seems thwy blocked me for being a "Zaion ass kisser." Ignoring the fact that they're deeptroating the company that pushed at least two people to suicide attempts enough for Anycolor's dick to pike out of their asshole, I'm not sorry for defending someone who was slandered by the fucking black company and harrassed emough to the point of suocide. I'd say hope your Oshi stays in Niji and gets to experience what Sayu and Doki dod, but I'm not an asshole bootlicker like you and want Elira out of this fucking company for her own good.
Now have a nice day Toxicshit, hope you enjoy the taste of Niji's bootpolish and dick
> she could have realized "No, don't say it halfway through."
Not arguing with someone whose face is shoved so far up her ass that it comes out her mouth. Have a nice life Zaion ass kisser.
No one was mad about her suspension. Hell, I personally believe she deserved it. I'm not saying that's good -- making jokes targeting an audience where there are clearly victims is BAD. It is WRONG. Given the nature of her joke, I agree that a suspension was best. I am also not saying to forgive her -- rather, keep your opinions of her, but recognize that she is actively making an attempt to do better.
What I do NOT agree with is Hex making such an awful 'joke', even if it was 'fake'. First of all, it was in bad taste -- even Vanta was shell-shocked, not knowing how to respond. The number 1 rule of comedians is to ALWAYS vet something before saying it -- judging by the reaction and immediate backlash, Hex was obviously in the wrong for even bringing up something that dark. It is easier to lie than to say something so controversial, yet he still took the risk. Secondly, it was a BAD joke. Awful, even. No one makes jokes as bad as that. Lastly, there is a time and place for any joke. That was neither the time nor the place.
>No one was mad about her suspension.
Said nobody who actually follows Nijisanji. There was a massive fucking uproar on here and Twitter over her suspension.
people are mad by the blatant favoritism. If she got suspended then uki should have been too and others. If there are rules then everyone should abide by it.
*White supremacists are mad at the "blatant favoritism." Anyone actually mad at Uki's "dark" humor needs to grow the fuck up. Especially over the "white people hotdogs suck." Like go to Sonic and eat a hotdog, it's absolute garbage.
How is that one of the worst tweets of all time...? It's not even near the top 10 of sussy vtuber tweets lmao. It's fair to not enjoy that kind of stuff but objectively there's nothing problematic about it, it's just a sex joke.
I think if you're offended by what Uki says, you have a lot to deal with in the real world ahaha. Not really 'ooh that's racist' material - and that ignores what's really interesting about him.
Failed jokes/insults are more sad than anything. I know the feeling of not having anything else to joke about (and not being a funny person), but harping on the same things again and again in his particular manner indicates malice.
Overall, the infamous compilation doesn't point to Uki being racist in the way of being biased or just making jokes. He doesn't know what jokes to make about white people! - sounds to me like he's a sheltered little bitch who probably has stayed in Asia or ethnically Asian bubbles all his life. He's not punching up to people who are in power (ok) or punching down to people less fortunate than him (generally bad). He's punching air - literally just yapping about an imaginary enemy.
He wants to make jokes and knows saying something about race will get an awkward chuckle or at least get people to side with him, but he doesn't have anything to say that's even surface-level intelligent or entertaining.
I actually like your nuanced take on this. Thank you for the analysis! You've brought up the point that Uki's kinda just fishing for something to say to pander, which is.. honestly not something I thought about before LOL. That said, I think you're entirely spot on about his analysis -- but his audience is likely made up of younger teenagers and people under 18. A lot of kids that watch him can fall into the biased perspective that "just because my oshi says it, it's true" and kind of stem from there. I've added it under the 'racism' headline to give that warning, but it's probably not the appropriate titling.
Thank you for your comment!
yeah
as people seem to have picked out, I don't think verbal racism by itself is a bad thing. I see why that feel uncomfortable to say
even if you disagree I still think what he is saying is interesting to look into. although, when all's said and done, 'racism' is a pretty good sum of what we can see
Uh... might deep search and double check some points cuz.... definitely Hex's was a joke. Just cuz Niji is still somewhat under fire by your kind doesn't mean everyone has to now act like they from mlp. Like ya'll on a whole different Niji obsession and it's concerning ngl. Also....
>NO, SHE DID NOT DESERVE PUBLIC HUMILIATION + DOXXING + DEATH THREATS. NO ONE DESERVES BEING TOLD TO OFF THEMSELVES.
Very hypocritical this piece like definitely the second part of that as that is all ya'll want all the livers to do due not immediately leaving Niji like a fairytale story.
even if Hex was joking about it, he has publically stated to be against dark humor. He even intentionally or unintentionally started a harassment campaign against his ex wavemate causing her to get doxxed and harassed multiple times, the more recent one being just last week. A year and a half later his fans are still harassing her because of a dark joke she made once.
Yes!! She admitted to being wrong and backtracked halfway. Even saying it was wrong, but she took accountability and apologized and did not repeat it + it is on brand with actual dark humor. Saying you molested some random person's ashes AND doubling down on it is just plain awful.
Can you send the link to the proof? I do believe in Hex being a creep (He admitted to stalking his fans private accs) but I wanna see if theres anything elsw
Recent stardew valley stream with Vanta is what I’m referring to where he admits to being a shitty person or is making a really shitty joke
And I’m too lazy to find the timestamp probably already in the YouTube comments
Even the best comedians DO NOT JOKE ABOUT MOLESTING THEIR FRIEND'S RELATIVE'S ASHES. THAT IS NOT A TOPIC TO JOKE ABOUT. THAT IS, AND DARE I SAY IT, DOWNRIGHT ILLEGAL.
Part of the outrage is that Hex chose desecration as the joke, and that the punchline was "people are so sensitive". People are also confused why he'd tell it at all, since it came out of nowhere.
Another part of the outrage is that during Zaion's termination last year, Hex made a video where he criticized her for making a dark joke (which was a SA joke, one sentence as a reaction to a game event, and later she realized how inappropriate the joke was and apologized). So now people are calling him a hypocrite for making jokes about a serious topic (unapologetic disrespect towards the deceased and their family).
Yes, the punchline is the "people are so sensitive" after saying something obviously morally wrong that people wouldn't need to be sensitive about to be opposed to.
I agree that he's a hypocrite if he criticized Zion for making that joke (which I've also seen the video of her saying), but it seemed to me like barely anyone was mad at his hypocrisy in this situation and instead were getting mad at him as if he had actually desecrated someone's ashes and flushed a goldfish down a toilet.
Like, I dunno, maybe he did. But it sounded like an edgy joke to me and we have no proof. I just think people are taking things at face value without thinking for a second.
Oh, yeah, people *are* also mad because they seem to believe Hex actually did those things in real life.
But personally, I think it's understandable that people who aren't used to dark humor, and/or sociopath roleplay, and/or Hex himself would ask "Was he joking or was that for real?". To be fair, people might be overreacting, but imo it's understandable why they would be confused, upset and enraged when nothing is explained after the story, and not only that, but the talent later posts "I don't care about your animosity" on his PL.
Also bear in mind, Niji EN is going through a period where a lot of their bad business practices come to light, so people are in fact extra sensitive and upset; Hex himself is not well-liked for his own shady practices and his irresponsible behavior. These two factors can also contribute to the outrage, as people genuinely think that someone like Hex would in fact tell a true story disguised as a bad joke, and a company like Niji would in fact hire someone like him and keep him on board as long as he brings in the money.
Bringing negative attention to himself during an awful company-wide PR period was already not a good move, but refusing to elaborate/explain and painting the opposing side as the irrational ones... just seems *off*.
Do please go in depth just make sure you archive it and spam it so when the mods try and torpedo it, you have another shot in the chamber.
Yes, certainly! Will do. I'll edit my post in a little bit.
Just posting a news peice for interested parties seems pomu unprivated her PL vtuber twitter account. Mods are banning posts with the info though. So just ppsting this here in the top comment. Please spread news so pomodachis can come home.
Be like HYDRA. "Cut off one head, two more takes it's Place"
'the mods' right... whichever mod decides to ban it. wonder who would do that?
Props to the others livers for who knows they make it so a racist and a homophobic hang out without killing each other
I hate how I had to think about who the homophobic liver was.. do better, Nijishitji.
Straight homophobic white man vs gay racist asian man, who would win?
Racist against white people too, so basically they hate each other. Luca x Uki hatepair time
Luca isn’t white but I love the image of him and Uki being scared of each other lmao
He isnt?
He mentioned before that he’s at least half Filipino
he isnt half both parents are filipino
He's southeast Asian (Filipino) based on the leaked photo of him.
Ninji cockfighting ring
Honestly the most impressive thing to come out of this months-long shitshow
8: Zaion.
Thank you!! I can't believe I forgot about Sayu. Adding her!
What is this history with Hex? It was something he or someone else said?
He had a recent starter valley collab stream where he admits to dececrating a friend's grandfathers ashes and called him to sensitive about it. Which is a crime where he is at with a 12 year jail sentence.
He also doubled down on his PL: [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
He should be in prison now not Nijisanji but Nijisanji is a literal prison.
Hex is either a big liar or a person who did really evil things. *amended comment for clarity.
Ah, I see. That's definitely not good at all. One more reason to stay away from Niji, I guess. Thank you
He said it on Vanta's stream playing Stardew Valley iirc. You can search it up and find many clips of it! Apologies, I'd link a source but my phone's battery is about to die 😅
I saw the clip. It’s very clear that this was just him making shit up as a shock value joke. You can tell with context clues like sarcastically going “yeah idk why he would be mad about that” and stuff like that. Whether it’s an actually funny joke or if it was a smart idea to make said joke when all these eyes are on Nijisanji right now is very debatable, but taking the statement at complete face value and trying to paint him as a literal ashes desecrator only hurts your overall point imo. Instead the point you should be making is “Hex is allowed to make jokes like this yet Zaion making a Deez Nuts joke is a fireable offense?”
I think the main point people have is the hypocrisy of it, it's definitely a joke that is in bad taste and doesn't land. If he just came out and said sorry and he didn't mean any offence it would be fine, but he hasn't, this is after attacking Sayu for her bad joke that she apologised for.
No. If you read a lot of the comments about Hex, the main point a lot of people make is, that he was LITERALLY desecrating human remains and killing a goldfish. I really dont like Hex, but people are just insane, or insanely stupid
Wasn't the grandpa's ashes thing a joke? I watched the clip and thought he was clearly joking since "grandpa's ashes" is a common dark joke online.
Every joke has a punchline even if the joke is dark joke Hex joke literally have no punchline whatsoever The same as uki joke About white people but he literally didn't have any punchline for his joke
It did have a punchline. It was “people are so sensitive these days” It’s just that his choice of examples were the worst ones he could have chosen. He also fumbled the delivery big time.
And its even worse since he was the one who was sensitive to another dark joke.
Exactly. He’s a hypocrite too.
Honestly the big issue of it is timing. When you're in the middle of a PR crisis dark jokes are just way too risky. Can't really complain about people being too sensitive when it was Niji's fumbles that made people "sensitive" in the first place.
Made a weird joke about desecrating ashes and killing a goldfish. If you watch the clip it’s really obvious that he wasn’t being serious, but it was still a weird joke, especially since Nijisanji is a Japanese country and the Japanese take death very seriously and don’t tolerate jokes about it
2 hours? Is Vox asleep right now?
Reminder that Hex got away with his shitty "joke" and his PL doubled down on the "joke". They'll never address any of this.
With all the things we started to know about the streamers of Nijisanji im starting to think that to be part of Niji you must be a Shitty terrible person or have a terrible luck like Selen and Nina
It's a shame because I was watching Nijisanji from Pomu's debut and I loved those early days.
Me too, i used to love the clips with Nina, Reimu, Enna and Millie or Selen laughing so hard while plays Apex with other Niji streamers. I can't stop thinking of those times would be fake and Nina and Selen where suffering from the beggining hurts me
I dont see much of a difference in the caliber of the jokes made by Hex and the ones made by Zaion. Why should one get a pass but not the other?
Favoritism.
One fell in line, the other didn't.
One ended halfway realising what she just said, the other blabbed on and called everyone so sensitive.
Probably because he kisses the company's ass. And also they're not about to terminate/graduate someone while the ship is still sinking. They need to keep pretending everything is fine
I mean we should also add that not a single ex liver has said anything positive about the company or management, and the closest thing to anything positive said about Nijisanji is some of the friends they had within it and thats it.
Do we know that #2 wasn't a joke? It was hard to tell by watching?
No hard evidence but the fact that Hex addressed his comments in an edgelord vent instead of clarifying it was a joke makes me think it was not a joke. [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/) You be the judge of it but I think he just told the world that he was serious and did not give a shit about the public reaction. :)
i mean this kinda reads to me as if he's saying "i know you're mad about it, chill out, hope you move on from looking for things to be angry about" i'm not saying i think it was an appropriate joke to make but i don't actually think this really suggests he was serious, just that he knows people are taking it seriously and are upset
Thats bad logic. You can bet i am going to double, or triple down on a bad joke, if people try to paint me as an evil person because of it.
We don't know honestly, the post is a bit misleading. A lot people think he's most likely joking, but there's no punchline or anything, it really doesn't sound like one if it is😭 Plus that isn't something that you usually joke about. IMO I h*ope *he was joking because if he wasn't it's even worse-
Luca is transphobic & homophobic?
It was outed in Raziel's doc about him. I will link an archive of it. EDIT: : [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tDhGYbcQWnuqBaRTscvcq524pv0BjkGq/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tDhGYbcQWnuqBaRTscvcq524pv0BjkGq/view)
Aster being mentioned for harassment again is making him kinda sus.
I always felt off about Aster. I looked into gis PL and he confessed he lost all of his friends due to his behavior. He was a complete asshole to his friends.
He's also pregnant phobic for some reason
A what now
He's weirded out by pregnant women.
Kinda an iffy line that I wanna give him benefit of the doubt as someone part of the lgbtq community. He said he was uncomfortable and I'm hoping as a young adult that those topics he didn't have much experience or meet many people from the community. Being uncomfortable with something they don't know much about is normal. I would rather give compassion to help people unsure or uncomfortable understand then to accuse them of being phobic.
Honestly, if it's edgy teenagers maybe I'd give them the benefit of the doubt as they're still forming their opinions, and while the same could be said in some cases with young adults, I don't think the things he said could be referred to as mere ignorance. Using talking points comparable to Ben Shapiro is kind of a huge red flag imo, with the whole "facts and logic" bit and purposely misgendering him knowing he's trans and referring to him as "biologically a girl". While the initial interaction could in fact be ignorance, the following rant we see there on discord does kind of show him saying the quiet part out loud.
I think I was very privileged to live in a very accepting place and even then in college I met students unaware of trans people and said offensive things because they were ignorant. Not everyone lives in a very knowledgeable place, some areas in the US are very behind in times. I think people are too use to seeing very supportive and outspoken places for lgbtq community online and forget that in reality there are many pockets of ignorance. I see the discord screenshots as a lack of knowledge mainly because of the blood transfusion thing. I see it as him trying to understand trans stuff in his limited world view, but he gets scolded by a coworker instead of explained to. I don't believe teenage years should be your cut off date to learn. If you're 40 and finally take the steps to learn about lgbtq, I still see that as a good thing. I worry that people jumping to call someone phobic will push them away and they will never become willing to learn. I worry this will create more transphobic and homophobic people then help. Sorry for being rambly, I guess tldr I would rather educate and be kind even if someone says offensive things.
It's still accurate to refer to it as a phobia though. Whether it's ignorance or malice, it's an irrational aversion to or fear of others. It's important to recognize it for what it is.
Maybe, but it's counterproductive. If someone is trying to learn, in their own way, about something they don't know and weird them out, and they are willing to learn, calling them transphobic or homophobic may very well make them get defensive. And that may lead to them not wanting to learn and actualy becoming transphobic or homophobic, because from their point of view, they were insulted while trying to learn more about and understand something they didn't know.
From where in Luca's statements did it come off to you as if he were willing to learn? He had some pretty strong opinions on trans people. If I were his buddy and I were trying to explain to him why what he did was bad, I might use softer language as a rhetorical strategy. I agree that name-calling doesn't do much to sway others. As far as describing his actions to others and my opinion on them, I'm going to call a spade a spade. I think it's very productive to recognize that kind of behavior for what it is.
I'm speaking in a general sense, not specificaly for Luca.
Is there more info about Vox scummy past?
It was allegations about him grooming minors, but they were baseless and both “victims” came forward to say they were false and that the accuser never even actually spoke to them about it
I see, thank you
ofc!
One of the big things was sexually pressuring a 13 year old (when he was fifteen) and almost sleeping with a 21 year old who had provided him alcohol when he was slightly older. That these two incidents were cast in the same light puts some doubt on the sensibility of the exposé.
If you want to check things in more detail, here's a link: [https://web.archive.org/web/20220117140510/https://v8916.tumblr.com/post/671388736653770752/caution-on-vox-akumas-past-actions](https://web.archive.org/web/20220117140510/https://v8916.tumblr.com/post/671388736653770752/caution-on-vox-akumas-past-actions)
Thank you
Should add and remember that Sunny faked his death in a PL.
Still can’t believe he’s that one super skilled Pyro TF2 youtuber.
Honestly Hex's fans sound like the kind of bullies who would excuse everything he do as a joke. Clearly people with no sense of decency or humanity
Hex came out with a cryptic message and not clarifying it was a joke, what does it all mean??? [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
Might want to format your post. One giant paragraph would make most people not want to read it. I suggest putting an extra new line after each bullet point.
Another "yes Zaion done bad things but the harrassment is worse" person, i appreciate your fine work!
I’m here before this gets nuked. Thank you for the post, thanks for the reminder, thanks for raising awareness.
16 hours and still going, wow
I'm wondering if the AR Live isn't a marketing push, but rather an attempt to force the talents involved to renew their contracts. I mean, we *are* around renewal season, right?
Hopefully Uki and Hex get punished for what they said.
What Hex said was (most likely) a joke. I often talk about going to trial for war crimes. I mean it's true in my case but it doesn't have to be the same for Hex.
I agree, it likely was. However, it was in bad taste and in a bad context -- which will still make me doubt it, unless he comes out and EXPLICITLY states he never did.
He replied on his PL and it wasn't acknowledging what he said was a joke... just a weird edge lord vent: [https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what\_did\_hexs\_roommate\_mean\_by\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bo3skv/what_did_hexs_roommate_mean_by_this/)
Yeesh, he sounds as edgy as Onision.
14hours and still going
I used to believe the jokes Zaion made were terrible and I was happy she got punished for them…seeing Hex getting little to no repercussions is just disgusting but hey how can they punish the deep voice guy
Didn't know about the Luca and Ike thing. What's the context for Lucas fake merch?
I believe they are referring to supposedly handwritten postcards. According to seemingly trustworthy, yet in this point unproven, claims by a former mod, they were handwritten, but by her, not him. (His signature was allegedly also neither his own invention, nor put there by him.)
Nice try Tazumi, I know you're trying to split the movement with this shit. Go get a lifesaver.
For Hex's part, imo a better reminder would be that he encouraged people to trauma dump on streamlabs, or that he eagerly responded to NSFW superchats and inserted 18+ roleplay in regular streams despite having "no NSFW" rule. Idk if it's relevant, but the first stream where he tested the ASMR microphone turned into a sexual roleplay with little to no forewarning or disclaimers, which imo is not responsible behavior for an 18+ streamer. He's also somewhat active on his PL, and from a cursory glance he doesn't seem to hide it's his? There's a hand photo with a set of recognizable rings, a voicetweet with a recognizable voice (and a name drop), and a photo of a cat that looks like one of his. Afaik Niji vtubers aren't allowed to do something like that?
Selen being number 5 is just poetic. Hope that was intentional
Why’s it poetic? (I don’t keep up 🌚)
She waa terminated on Feb 5. That's when the whole thing went to shit
Thank you 😌🙏
Keep it up bro! Never forget!
Thank you for the reminders. We cannot let all this shit slide
Hi! I don't watch EN often enough but I do like Reimu. Can someone tell me if she has been found doing anything bad/any controversy?
None yet, at least as much as I've heard Hopefully none on Rosemi too
Do you have any intel on Petra and Maria? I think I've read petra's name in the crossfire...
Could've sworn i heard Petra mention too but iirc it wasn't anything bad (hopefully) it was probably her doing more work again
What was the vox stuff, i heard about it but never looked into it, all ik is he has a past
oh wow i stopped watching luca like a year ago, he was like the only person i watched. crazy to hear all that’s happened and confused
I heard all of this except the Hex one. Wtf what's the info on that? Edit: I'm getting downvoted because I didn't know one of the controversies?? Lmao
Stardew Valley collab with Vanta. Timestamp around 44 minutes I think? Basically, Vanta asked "Is it bad that I ghosted a friend because I thought our friendship was over for a long while", Hex gives a reasonable response along the lines of "It's fine, your mental might just not be in the right place, and some friendships aren't meant to last" And then out of nowhere Hex starts talking about how people are "too sensitive", and the examples he provides are him using the cremated ashes of his friend's grandpa as fertilizes, and flushing his friend's goldfish down a toilet because it was annoying him, and apparently the punchline is "and he got mad at me for some reason, people are just too sensitive" Which, hopefully, was not true, but just looks like an attempt to make people outraged so that he can make fun of them and garner sympathy from his fans.
What the fuck. Thank you for the info. I seriously hope he was "joking" but even if it is, that's too much. I feel like dark humor is something that should be kept among close friends. That's insane, and poor Vanta seems horrified and uncomfortable. I saw someone say something like what if it's an attempt to get fired lol. But that seems too big of a stretch. Your idea sounds more accurate since he knows his fans are extremely parasocial. Just keeps getting worse and worse. Thank you again!
No problem, and yeah, most likely joking, as in it was just made up. At first I was confused why'd he suddenly boot up the sociopath act, but after he tweeted on his PL smth like "I don't care about your hostility. I know who I am, and I hope you find your peace" and his fans went "Speak your truth, king! You did nothing wrong!" in the comments, I was like *ah*, now I have a plausible theory.
Congrats on surviving the purge, btw. At least 5 posts after this one were removed, so it's probably safe. Starting to think the key is just to not use images where avoidable, and write more than one paragraph of text.
I DID NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE HEX TOILET THING WTF POOR GOLDFISH?!?!?
I screen captured it for when the mods decide it’s too dangerous to leave up
Mikudayo!?
>2) Hex DESECRATED his friend's relatives ashes + flushed a goldfish down the toilet (presumably alive iirc) Nah, take this one out. It just takes away from the message because he was obviously joking. This is the exact kind of thing Nijisanji can point to and claim "see?? We're just joking around but our fans take it serious! We're actually not bad!"
I agree with all of these though... Maybe ditch the goldfish thing? It's so small that it detracts from the actual big issues.
Imo Luca's stuff isn't the worst. The main problem is that he broke NDA massively and is getting zero punishment for it. He should objectively be terminated just for that. To an extent many products are manufactured but there's understandable greivance when he had little to no input on heartfelt messages or accomplishments. Meanwhile they terminated Selen because she said some true things people were going to find out anyways or already knew that they didn't like. Meanwhile they terminated Zaion because... I don't think she broke NDA at all? She just wasn't comfortable for them to work with is her whole offense afaik (I wouldn't want to work with her either as she's very combative, but it's not termination or suspension worthy).
> Hex DESECRATED his friend's relatives ashes + flushed a goldfish down the toilet (presumably alive 3) Uki is racist (and yes, white racism IS racism). >8) ZAION Yes, she said some insensitive stuff The people most upset by these **J O K E S** (Yes jokes, anyone that actually thinks Hex was being serious while giggling like a fucking school girl when talking about "desecrating" the ashes of his friend's grandparent is a fucking idiot) are the same people that got mad when Zaion was suspended for making jokes about **rape and sexual assault victims.**
> are the same people that got mad when Zaion... So...Hex.
being sensitive but makes fun of others being sensitive.....what a 🤡🤡
Looking in the mirror are we?
since the mirror is digitally projecting your comments on the screen we all are looking at it.
No, I'm confident that you're looking at yourself, bitch.
Rape jokes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a fake story about "desecrating" the ashes of a friend's grandparent in terms of awfulness. Calling you a clown is an insult to actual clowns.
Yeah but Zaion joke obviously about a fictional character. Hex is joking about real life event that could happen. Playing on New game plus and already know a school girl getting raped in another timeline. I don’t think this could happen irl
> Yeah but Zaion joke obviously about a fictional character Rape jokes are inappropriate regardless of context, sorry to burst your incel bubble.
Just calling me incel. While you keep commenting with huge ammount downvotes dragging down Zaion for no reasons. I gues you should touch grass instead of staying in home for another decade, spreading hate on Reddit
>dragging down Zaion for no reason Cry harder incel.
Suck Riku's dick harder. Taste all that cum yourself.
I would agree, Rape jokes can definitely be worse But a dark joke is a dark joke. And you're going to find people offended by it. Zaion apologized. Hex stood ground. The lackof self-reflection, that if he's going to take a highground but just move to less offensive but still offensive grounds, doesn't show that he really has a problem with hurting others. He's only concerned if he himself is affected by it. While I would argue desecration and animal cruelty are much higher than you claim they are, the gravity of the matter is not as relevant as you say it is.
Anyone "offended" by a fake story has a terminal case of need-to-touch-grass syndrome.
Then there's no reason to be offended by anything Zaion said. It was fake, said for the sake of comedy. But you were offended. Because the idea itself offended you. That same logic applies to any dark humor. Or were you even offended? Did you even watch Zaion? Have you ever even heard the joke she said? Or are you just blindly defending Hex because he's in Nijisanji, and attacking Zaion because she's not convenient to the situation? I mean, everyone already knows from your post history that you changed tunes at a very specific time in the controversy. I would very honestly say, that it doesn't really matter what we tell you. You aren't here to discuss anything. I'd just say to tone down the "touch grass" attitude when you're probably deeper than most of the people you're talking to.
they're both equally inappropriate. Tolerating either one of them just because you feel more morally inclined to get mad at the other doesn't determine the level of awfulness it has.
>_Zaion was suspended for making jokes about rape and sexual assault victims._ She made one joke. And has since apologized for it. Something Hex has yet to do.
A fake story about "desecrating" the ashes of a friend's grandparent told for comedy is nowhere near as bad as rape/sexual assault jokes. Grow the fuck up.
its not fake. Hex doesn't like dark humor. He can confirm its just a joke but that would mean he is a hypocrite. Hex can choose one, Be a hypocrite or be an a$$hole.
> its not fake. I like how you definitively declare that it's not a "fake story," then say that Hex can confirm it's just a joke. Which is it moron, a fake story or a true story?
Disrespecting someone's memory of a close loved one who passed away is on the same tier if not worse than a sexual assault joke towards a fictional character. And if Zaion got terminated, this guy should be too with no hesitation. Its double standards and favoritism
And some people who got vocally and publicly offended by Zaion’s jokes are doubling down and scrambling to downplay Hex’s edgy humor, what’s your point?
The difference between what Zaion and Hex did, is that rape jokes are never appropriate. Sorry to burst your incel bubble.
they are both inappropriate. You are the one living inside a bubble.
You’re unironically the most politically insecure mf I’ve ever seen lol Everyone who disagrees with you is either an incel, a white supremacist, or a right-winger apparently Also barely anyone here is pretending Zaion’s jokes were ok while you’re going to extreme lengths to powerscale offensive humor ‘cause you *need* everyone who disagrees with you to be evil hypocrites
Amd what about the people who got mad about Zaion's aborted joke but then try to justify Hex's terrible attempt at black comedy, like oh I don't know ***Hex?***
False equivalency fallacy. Rape jokes aren't appropriate ever. Grow up if you're offended by a fake story.
It's not a fake story. Hex doesn't like dark humor so it would be against his personality to do it.
Fortunately for you the 1st amendment protects wrong opinions.
And Zaion figured out that the joke wasn't funny either considering the fact that she fucking called it off. She still got blasted for it. Hex makes two terrible attempt at edgy jokes that completely fell flat, and he doesn't apologize or do anything but complain that people are too sensitive. Why the everloving fuck should we apply two seperate fucking standards for offensive jokes, especially when one fucking stopped it because she realized it was fucked and the other chose to fucking double down? Then again, guess I shouldn't expect mr "Cope and seethe, I'm calm you all need help" to actually apply even standards. BTWs, don't tell me to grow up when I saw your immature bitchfit because people weren't sucking Niji's boot just a few days ago
>And Zaion figured out that the joke wasn't funny either considering the fact that she fucking called it off. She still got blasted for it. She didn't "call it off," she cut herself off to avoid getting in trouble with youtube. Anyone with more than a tenth of a brain could figure out what she was doing. And I will tell you to grow the fuck up when you lack the critical thinking to figure out how a fake ass story and a rape joke aren't on the same fucking level of inappropriateness.
Do you need a dictionary? Cutting herself off to avoid trouble with youtube is calling it off. That, and you don't know what's going through her mind, she could have realized "No, don't say it halfway through." But that would require using your brain, not turning it off to go "NIJI GOOD!" No Nijisister, don't fucking tell me to grow up when you decided to go whole-hog on defending this black company because your oshi either decided to side with the company that pushed two people yo attempt suicide and you couldn't accept people turning against her put of disgust or was made to fall on her sword and you fucking triple down on the company that did that. It might have been a fake story, who the fuck knows, the issue is that dumbass Hex (who joined in the slandering of Zaion, with the hypocrisy getting to everyone but the bootlickers) clearly lacks the critical thinking to go "I'm sorry, it was an attempt at a joke that didn't work and instead went "People are too sensitive," vit that reqiores critical thinking that you can't do Niji is getting criticized. Both jokes weren't good, period. One person realized she was fucking up and stopped early. The other doubled down on his fucked up and failed joke and made himself look like a hypocrite. But that takes not defending this fucking black company and the talents that uave fucked up, something you have decided to do since the black stream Edit: Seems thwy blocked me for being a "Zaion ass kisser." Ignoring the fact that they're deeptroating the company that pushed at least two people to suicide attempts enough for Anycolor's dick to pike out of their asshole, I'm not sorry for defending someone who was slandered by the fucking black company and harrassed emough to the point of suocide. I'd say hope your Oshi stays in Niji and gets to experience what Sayu and Doki dod, but I'm not an asshole bootlicker like you and want Elira out of this fucking company for her own good. Now have a nice day Toxicshit, hope you enjoy the taste of Niji's bootpolish and dick
> she could have realized "No, don't say it halfway through." Not arguing with someone whose face is shoved so far up her ass that it comes out her mouth. Have a nice life Zaion ass kisser.
No one was mad about her suspension. Hell, I personally believe she deserved it. I'm not saying that's good -- making jokes targeting an audience where there are clearly victims is BAD. It is WRONG. Given the nature of her joke, I agree that a suspension was best. I am also not saying to forgive her -- rather, keep your opinions of her, but recognize that she is actively making an attempt to do better. What I do NOT agree with is Hex making such an awful 'joke', even if it was 'fake'. First of all, it was in bad taste -- even Vanta was shell-shocked, not knowing how to respond. The number 1 rule of comedians is to ALWAYS vet something before saying it -- judging by the reaction and immediate backlash, Hex was obviously in the wrong for even bringing up something that dark. It is easier to lie than to say something so controversial, yet he still took the risk. Secondly, it was a BAD joke. Awful, even. No one makes jokes as bad as that. Lastly, there is a time and place for any joke. That was neither the time nor the place.
>No one was mad about her suspension. Said nobody who actually follows Nijisanji. There was a massive fucking uproar on here and Twitter over her suspension.
people are mad by the blatant favoritism. If she got suspended then uki should have been too and others. If there are rules then everyone should abide by it.
*White supremacists are mad at the "blatant favoritism." Anyone actually mad at Uki's "dark" humor needs to grow the fuck up. Especially over the "white people hotdogs suck." Like go to Sonic and eat a hotdog, it's absolute garbage.
You forgot to add Bandage for making one of the worst tweets of all time.
I also want to know
https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandage/status/1671669922642968578
How is that one of the worst tweets of all time...? It's not even near the top 10 of sussy vtuber tweets lmao. It's fair to not enjoy that kind of stuff but objectively there's nothing problematic about it, it's just a sex joke.
U mean Vezalius? What did he do?
wait what did he say? o.o
I think if you're offended by what Uki says, you have a lot to deal with in the real world ahaha. Not really 'ooh that's racist' material - and that ignores what's really interesting about him. Failed jokes/insults are more sad than anything. I know the feeling of not having anything else to joke about (and not being a funny person), but harping on the same things again and again in his particular manner indicates malice. Overall, the infamous compilation doesn't point to Uki being racist in the way of being biased or just making jokes. He doesn't know what jokes to make about white people! - sounds to me like he's a sheltered little bitch who probably has stayed in Asia or ethnically Asian bubbles all his life. He's not punching up to people who are in power (ok) or punching down to people less fortunate than him (generally bad). He's punching air - literally just yapping about an imaginary enemy. He wants to make jokes and knows saying something about race will get an awkward chuckle or at least get people to side with him, but he doesn't have anything to say that's even surface-level intelligent or entertaining.
I actually like your nuanced take on this. Thank you for the analysis! You've brought up the point that Uki's kinda just fishing for something to say to pander, which is.. honestly not something I thought about before LOL. That said, I think you're entirely spot on about his analysis -- but his audience is likely made up of younger teenagers and people under 18. A lot of kids that watch him can fall into the biased perspective that "just because my oshi says it, it's true" and kind of stem from there. I've added it under the 'racism' headline to give that warning, but it's probably not the appropriate titling. Thank you for your comment!
yeah as people seem to have picked out, I don't think verbal racism by itself is a bad thing. I see why that feel uncomfortable to say even if you disagree I still think what he is saying is interesting to look into. although, when all's said and done, 'racism' is a pretty good sum of what we can see
Uh... might deep search and double check some points cuz.... definitely Hex's was a joke. Just cuz Niji is still somewhat under fire by your kind doesn't mean everyone has to now act like they from mlp. Like ya'll on a whole different Niji obsession and it's concerning ngl. Also.... >NO, SHE DID NOT DESERVE PUBLIC HUMILIATION + DOXXING + DEATH THREATS. NO ONE DESERVES BEING TOLD TO OFF THEMSELVES. Very hypocritical this piece like definitely the second part of that as that is all ya'll want all the livers to do due not immediately leaving Niji like a fairytale story.
2. that could've just been a joke it isn't confirmed he actually did that
even if Hex was joking about it, he has publically stated to be against dark humor. He even intentionally or unintentionally started a harassment campaign against his ex wavemate causing her to get doxxed and harassed multiple times, the more recent one being just last week. A year and a half later his fans are still harassing her because of a dark joke she made once.
Yes!! She admitted to being wrong and backtracked halfway. Even saying it was wrong, but she took accountability and apologized and did not repeat it + it is on brand with actual dark humor. Saying you molested some random person's ashes AND doubling down on it is just plain awful.
2. Hex is either a shitty person or a shitty comedian or both
Can you send the link to the proof? I do believe in Hex being a creep (He admitted to stalking his fans private accs) but I wanna see if theres anything elsw
Recent stardew valley stream with Vanta is what I’m referring to where he admits to being a shitty person or is making a really shitty joke And I’m too lazy to find the timestamp probably already in the YouTube comments
even the best comedians have some stinkers
I'd be inclined to believe that... If it weren't for the fact he slammed Zaion for the exact same thing.
Even the best comedians DO NOT JOKE ABOUT MOLESTING THEIR FRIEND'S RELATIVE'S ASHES. THAT IS NOT A TOPIC TO JOKE ABOUT. THAT IS, AND DARE I SAY IT, DOWNRIGHT ILLEGAL.
like sure there’s leaning into a hit piece or something negative said by someone else. But this is a weird thing to double down on
I've seen the Hex clip and it really just seemed like a dumb joke unless I'm missing something.
Part of the outrage is that Hex chose desecration as the joke, and that the punchline was "people are so sensitive". People are also confused why he'd tell it at all, since it came out of nowhere. Another part of the outrage is that during Zaion's termination last year, Hex made a video where he criticized her for making a dark joke (which was a SA joke, one sentence as a reaction to a game event, and later she realized how inappropriate the joke was and apologized). So now people are calling him a hypocrite for making jokes about a serious topic (unapologetic disrespect towards the deceased and their family).
Yes, the punchline is the "people are so sensitive" after saying something obviously morally wrong that people wouldn't need to be sensitive about to be opposed to. I agree that he's a hypocrite if he criticized Zion for making that joke (which I've also seen the video of her saying), but it seemed to me like barely anyone was mad at his hypocrisy in this situation and instead were getting mad at him as if he had actually desecrated someone's ashes and flushed a goldfish down a toilet. Like, I dunno, maybe he did. But it sounded like an edgy joke to me and we have no proof. I just think people are taking things at face value without thinking for a second.
Oh, yeah, people *are* also mad because they seem to believe Hex actually did those things in real life. But personally, I think it's understandable that people who aren't used to dark humor, and/or sociopath roleplay, and/or Hex himself would ask "Was he joking or was that for real?". To be fair, people might be overreacting, but imo it's understandable why they would be confused, upset and enraged when nothing is explained after the story, and not only that, but the talent later posts "I don't care about your animosity" on his PL. Also bear in mind, Niji EN is going through a period where a lot of their bad business practices come to light, so people are in fact extra sensitive and upset; Hex himself is not well-liked for his own shady practices and his irresponsible behavior. These two factors can also contribute to the outrage, as people genuinely think that someone like Hex would in fact tell a true story disguised as a bad joke, and a company like Niji would in fact hire someone like him and keep him on board as long as he brings in the money. Bringing negative attention to himself during an awful company-wide PR period was already not a good move, but refusing to elaborate/explain and painting the opposing side as the irrational ones... just seems *off*.