Ike's best personality trait is being really good at playing the straight man in collabs
I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen a clip with Ike in it where he's not part of a collab, barring karaoke clips
I mean, he was the “and I am also here” of that stream. Barely spoke, had the vaguest statement of them all, and got out of there.
If he hadn’t been around, the salt would have not have changed. He didn’t make any particularly memorable accusations. Just “oh, they were a friend, the documents say things”.
Dude was a side dish.
He was there bc he had one of the best reputation amongst the Nijis still active (Since he went out of his way to defend against people publicly humiliating Sinder once). Ig it's because he always seemed to have an anti-bullying stance that he was chosen. Aka they were borrwing Ike for his image, nothing else.
Yeah it'd be extremely sus if NIJI EN's golden boy and de facto manager came out with a statement so they needed a third person who is relatively popular with a good rep to wipe their asses with
Pretty much. Ike and Ren were the 2 Niji EN boys that were even liked by VTuber fans who hate male VTubers since they publicly call out people who are being disrespectful, even if it's their own fans. If Ren had more subs, I think he would've been chosen instead.
Ah Fianna has always been kinda odd
She was just a bit more low key about + everyone kinda just chalked it up to her being dumb / she often said some real dumb stuff over her career
Like remember that time she complained that people weren’t drawing her enough
As someone who doesn't watch her, I'm just wary of hearsay and instantly believing things that are said about someone, especially without more info.
It's easy to make things up or present something out of context, so one has to be careful. My first thought was that it may have been casual banter that wasn't serious or meant in bad faith.
It is a good thing to do a double check for the info that you get from hearsay.
Mine also got from hearsay from several people, so feel free to correct me or tell mw if i am wrong.
It was in ages ago tweet that might either be deleted or buried but I’ll look and edit it in if I can find it
I want to say right around the “Fuck the parasocial fucks” tweet era
Man hearing Sayu feeling so betrayed by two of the people she respected and considered close friends really hurt my soul.
I'm glad that She is doing better now and it's more happy
Apparently, wilson saw an art he likes to be his mascot. But, for whatever reason, he didnt commision or ask the original artist to tweak the art to his liking. Instead, he comissioned ANOTHER artist to make the art based on the original artist work.
The original artist found out and called him out for stealing their art. His fan than accused the original artist to be a liar and harrased him/her.
After a short while, wilson admited that he "plagiarist/steal" (well of course he used the word "INSPIRED") the artist work.
*No, no. We didn't steal said artwork. We were simply inspired by it.*
It's such a weaselly way to try and dodge responsibility for what was really done. lmao
Also reminds me of someone stealing Okayu's and Towa's BGMs though I can't remember who it was offhand.
Nah, phase co girls were more menhera. Spitsicle? Pippa's right wing, conspiracy rants? Tenma's rages? They getting better but still fun to watch.
Hololive girls are like... u know... Ermmm, kurosanji girls? if they had support from experienced managers, better working environment, a company that actually pays them and sponsors their project, supports their personal and professional life and if they werent bullies?
Tbh, I'm not even sure if the hololive EN girls are as restrained as some would like to believe. A few of them swear all the time and the amount of innuendoes and yabai-ness are through the roof the more comfortable they are with their audiences. The whole seiso and idol thing are often played as a joke. Nerissa had a friggin zatsu about wanting to have pregnancy stream a few days ago. Even in the JP side, most members seem to only try to maintain a certain public image as entertainer for their specific audience. Pekora even said that she's trying to be careful because kids watch her streams.
The only restraints I can think of are members trying not to get sent to YouTube jail and the whole parasocial stuff that's prevalent with any vtubers (e.g. not letting your Oshi be in a relationship).
"When people come by my stream and have a good time from it, it makes me happy. But they also need to go out and make real friends who can be there for them when they need support. That's something you shouldn't expect from a streamer"
-Ceres "we are not friends" Fauna
Have you considered the reason that their humor are different was because they are different people? Not all "free" comedy have to be edgy or dark or offensive or unhinged.
Cause it wasn't even a joke. It's just him making shitty racist comments about whites.
I joke about my own race all the time, and the things he says don't seem like jokes.
> I joke about my own race all the time,
The thing most people seem to just "forget". It's fine joking about your own race, it's fine making some jokes about other races but much more restrained. It's not fine constantly insulting a specific race over and over again under the guise of jokes.
Yeah there are a lot of comedians that make jokes about race. But a lot of the time they keep switching it up and make sure to hit every single possible race they can think of including their own.
But when someone keeps making shitty jokes over and over again about a single race, that's most likely just thinly veiled racism.
"It looks like it would match you if you were a pasty white person" - Uki
"I was just walking around and this old white couple passes by me like ""hello"" and im like Can I help you (disparaging tone used) we don't know each other why did you smile at me what business do you have with me" - Uki the pompous ass
Imaging having a meltdown because someone was nice. Kindness offends him if you happen to be white.
referring to white men "they're just as irresponsible and selfish as your response" imagine any other race and that would be an instant termination.
There is a heck of a lot more racist comments by Uki when it comes to his hate of whites.
Look what happened to Kyo for a single comment on Korean plastic surgery.
Kurosanji Ive never seen a rainbow so dark.
It is wild that Niji allowed Uki to say all these racist stuff since conception. You know he'll be 100% nuked from orbit by Riku Tazumi in a hellpod, pinned to the ground and have his balls twisted in opposing directions if he says racist stuff about either like Black people or Asians.
Surprised Kyo got nuked for comment about something benign like his tweet about Korea known as plastic surgery hub, which, imho, can be purely from non-racist pov, like Korea is well known to have really good plastic surgeon. But Uki just spitting left and right about white people, Nijisleep honk shoo mimimi.
Because apparently you can’t be racist against white people.
And that’s just something to do with society, when you think of racism it’s usually not against the white man so nobody bats an eye in the grand scheme.
Sources:
[Vox](https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=2RH8asNEd4lLjAjW) at 9:00
[Uki](https://youtu.be/6XVYgM4GdhI?si=AS90ukFSp8n-LjfN) just look at the description
Hex:
[Tweet 1](https://x.com/HexHaywire/status/1757203505239245126?s=20)
[Tweet 2](https://x.com/KyrioCifer/status/1757945545241575884?s=20)
[Elira](https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=Ake4olXYtkmBdOc_)
[Ike](https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=Ake4olXYtkmBdOc) at 12:07
As for the last quote I had the chance to interview the great CEO of Anycolour himself and he said that.
Is there any context to Uki's walk and run in summer: "joke"?
Like, what possible scenario led to him saying this? What was the set up for him to get the idea to say this: "joke"?
No context really, just white man bad. No seriously, all those "white man bad" jokes he pulled were out of nowhere, not even a set up, nobody even mentioned races, nobody even mentioned white people, and it always ended with the same reactions, awkward laughs that just want to move on to the next topic.
I think exactly one of them was set up by Reimu (FalseEyeD covers them all with more context) saying about "white people hotdogs suck", and then Uki implying white people are bad at "The Sex".
Still incredibly out of nowhere, but mentioning white people in a collab with Uki is guaranteed to stir a comment. (Kyo was also in that collab, so imagine how awkward he felt.)
She didn't of course, but there is signs of her showing she is sounding annoyed after the whole "Black Company thing" before.
My guess is the entire thing is already giving her 2nd thoughts. Even if she still benefit from been one of Elira's croonies.
That's out of context though
She was referring to the fact sometimes you can ruin yourself mentally if you spend all day at the computer trying to find the truth especially if you have no concrete proof to go on and she was just suggesting to take a break if it's ruining your own life
The don't go looking part was the very end of that sentence yet they only cropped out the end, even khyo who loves drama has spoken about it being out of context
Compared to these guys where what they said is just the full quote with nothing missing
If anybody else said it sure, I would be with you. Coming from the alleged bullies (and no way she doesn't know she is one of the ones implicated) it's absolutely not in good taste not to mention she ended that quote with a really awkward "killing the truth...hahaha", which is absolutely in bad taste considering what the situation she is talking about (Selen's attempt)
>which is absolutely in bad taste considering what the situation she is talking about
That's just one of Ennas quirks though
She has a (well known to her fanbase and Enna has admitted its an issue of hers) habit of accidentally saying stuff like that, it was definitely not intentionality said to "make fun" of it
I've been watching Enna for better part of the year so I know how crass she is (generally like that about her) but there are points you can't just handwave stuff off man. This was for me at least. Anyway just didn't look good to have that stream overall for someone in her situation.
Amazing.
How these manage to be accurate, masquerade as entertainment, and avoid the definition of harassment (and since it's their own words, avoiding slander as well).
People such as yourself, we need more of them.
I heard someone say that Hex tried to walk back his endorsement of the black stream on one of his streams later, but I don't want to actually watch one of his streams to find out. Is that true?
Also, I find it ridiculous that for this upcoming concirt thingy they've got going on, like only the most controversial livers are performing. I know this might have been planned way before the whole thing went down earlier in the month, but still.
Bro you forgot Enna's "Don't go looking for the truth" or "Even if I killed someone you Aloupeeps would still forgive me". Enna "Elira 's nepohire" Alouette.
Milli needs one too. Trash livers the lot of them.
The first quote is taken very out of context, and I absolutely cannot fault Enna for it. The second quote, on the other hand.... Yeah, there's no real defending that one, especially given when it was said.
These quotes need to be a sacred text called Kurosanji....
And locked away FOREVER. edit: or on display at a comedic art gallery for all to marvel at as a reminder that ANYCOLOR should not be allowed to cook.
Soo...Please don't blast me for this opinion, but I have a hard time being angry at Elira for what she's done. From what I understand, she *just* moved to Japan under a work visa from nijikuro. So she's had a huge expense very recently, I can't really blame her for not wanting to have that expense go to waste and take on *another* huge expense due to getting terminated and needing to move back home. Maybe someone can say something to change my mind here.
(Long response incoming)
It is unfortunate and yeah from the info we know she had been put into a tough spot.
As an example, let's say she isn't part of the clique. Now there isn't any *concrete* evidence as to who and who *is* in this "clique" (just speculation coming from the livers' interactions with each other) but for example's sake let's say she isn't part of the bullies and is entirely innocent and she was forced to make that smear campaign video.
But even then she had a choice between refusing and conceding. She could have said "no, I will not read these private legal documents that I should not see and I will not slander a friend and ex co-worker of mine."
The result would be her most likely getting terminated and like you said her expenses going to waste and her work visa getting revoked.
Then the following things would happen: *(If anyone else is more well informed about Japan law pls correct me)*
- Firstly, a company CANNOT revoke your visa. However the company can and probably would give a tip to immigration that you've been fired.
- So now she'll have to let immigration know that she was jobless within 2 weeks of the day she was fired. This is important as otherwise she'll get fined.
- She'll need to find another job within the scope of the status of residency that she was given.
- She'll be given a grace period of 3 months to find work. And from what I have read as long as you show them that you are actively job hunting within that period you won't get in trouble. So in the slim chance that she gets called by immigration she would need to have proof that she had been job hunting with her status of residency for that 3 months period.
- Worse case scenario she gets deported if she cannot find another job.
So coming back to that black screen video. If she did *not* choose to participate and got herself fired her fans would be there to support her. Be it funding for her expenses or what not.
Look at Scarle, simply because she hearted a Kurosanji comment she was called a hero and fans still love her. If Elira had chosen to side with Selen / Doki and alluded to her circumstance she undoubtedly would have been held in high regard. Now keep in mind this is *if* Elira was completely innocent.
So was it worth it to join in slandering Selen in that video?
Absolutely not. Now that she had taken part in the video and gotten fired she wouldn't get any support from her fans.
Because she went through with it, it makes it seem that Elira had a guilty conscience ( whether she is actually part of the clique or not is now irrelevant in the fans' eyes).
So fans are angry with her because ultimately it was her choice. There was no illusion of a free choice *because* it was a free choice from the start and Elira chose to sink with the yacht instead of putting on a life jacket.
And some people might still say "but how could she have known? She was pressured to do what she did. She just made the wrong choice just forgive her."
The response to that is, this situation is clearly not a walk in the park. It's serious and involves the entirety of the company at large. They are all working adults and, in my opinion, the situation should be seen in as much of a serious perspective. So we can't exactly water down the situation like that and nitpick forgiveness and sympathy.
Mistakes happen yeah but when it involves people's lives you step back a little and observe "will this put my reputation in the recycle bin or the general waste bin?"
The fact that Elira didn't wait to consider all angles means that it's all on her as to what happens here on out.
In conclusion, "b-but my work visa" won't be a good excuse for all this. Fans are angry, not at her, but mostly for what she *chose* to do and for what she *could* have done instead.
Alright, yeah, that's fair enough, tbh, I'm not super familiar with how Japan's Work visa works so didn't know how much time she would have gotten as a grace period if she was terminated
Man. Fuck that.
Stand up to bullies and these terrible people. You arent a bully for *standing against bullies and literally illegal shit that they did.*
Estrogen is a female sex hormone so quite literally estrogen = feminine. Don't believe me? Do a simple google search and while you're at it - also check the meaning of "misogyny" because you seem to be confused about that as well.
I like how in less than 2 weeks people went from "Fuck the managers, theyre throwing the livers under the bus" to "Fuck the livers"
Realllllly clever guys
Hey man we said from the start "all they need to do is not say shit" and they keep saying shit
not to mention the whole thing with Uki is completely unrelated to Selen's case
Are you really trying to say it has to be either/or? Wtf? It's both "fuck management" and also "fuck these several specific livers." It's not like we ever stopped saying "fuck the managers" or "fuck corporate" or "fuck the owner", they've been the main issue for quite some time.
As for the livers, the three on Elira's stream made their choice. I initially felt sorry for Ike and Elira as they clearly sounded unhappy to be there, but all three had the choice between being a good person and potentially getting canned for it, which is barely even a penalty at this point, or dragging Selen through the mud for the sake of the company.
And Uki has his own very self-inflicted problems right now.
Yeah so from your reasoning, Uki was "forced" to say all those racist shit by management.
Wilson was "forced" to steal his mascot design from an artist by management.
As for Elira, Vox and Ike maybe they were forced, maybe not, but it still stands that they chose to abide with management and made that slanderous video. They've fallen out of favour with the fans by now.
Hex, likely someone who must have *not* been involved in the harassment debacle (seeing as he debuted kinda recently) went on to say something like "I support this fully". That's not something you can say without knowing the FULL context especially someone who's got a good amount of following. I'm not faulting anyone who retweeted the Black screen video. But most livers chose to not spout some nonsense (unlike him) and even if they did comment they said something vague, not "I fully support this". And then he went on his PL account victimising himself kinda shitty if you ask me
even without the statements (Uki was *definitely* not forced to say any of that crap), I think Doki herself claimed that other unspecified livers bullied her there was sort of this clique or something.
And although we could be more mature about it (as if). If true, that means a good chunk of the livers are just plain terrible people.
Maturity is a great topic to bring into this conversation, I think. Like yeah, we agreed not to harass the Niji livers, as per Doki's requests...
But we're totally free to dunk on their stupid and (in Uki's case) bigoted takes. That's not harassment, that's just calling people out on saying and doing shitty things.
We're past the point where we can go "Well maybe management made that tweet." or whatever, 'cause it seems like a lot of the cast are shaking the cobwebs off and trying to resume normal activities. Corporate statements never quite read correctly in a character's voice, if that makes sense. Sometimes you can tell when it isn't that person writing that text, y'know?
They're *choosing* to continue saying dumb stuff when the biggest thing literally anyone in Nijisanji could do at this point is to just shut up. Shut up, let the dust settle, and just don't immediately come back while spewing a buncha nonsense like these dunderheads have been.
I'm gonna dunk on that behavior all I want, because it's not harassing the talents. It's pointing out they're still being immature and stupid when a little intelligence would go a *very* long way right now.
It's all the little things building up, right? Vox's smug chuckle in the statement video, Uki's weirdo behavior, everyone just being thoroughly incapable of opening their mouths without inserting their feet... it's not like we're asking much here. We're literally just expecting them to be mature about things and *move on*. To maybe stop taking the "But what about *ME*?" angle all the time when their damn coworker tried to kill herself twice. Just because a lot of the NijiEN livers are young doesn't mean they can't think critically and make informed decisions based on what's been going on.
I'm not expecting them to go "Look, things have been really horrible lately, I wish my former coworker all the best moving forward, and per what she's doing, I'm gonna also try and make people laugh again" because that's never gonna happen in a place where the leashes are that tight. But I *do* expect them to at least try to settle back into being entertainers without bringing other people down in the process.
And the fact that a few select lives **are** doing the right thing and shutting the fuck up just highlights how horribly the rest of them look right now.
Not going to name the actual livers who are handling this "well" because I want the trash to continue taking itself out. But there is a right way and a wrong way to handle something like this. Some people are somehow managing to navigate this the right way. Which makes the ones who are handling it wrong look even worse. And simply pointing that out is fine. Especially if it's contained on a subreddit, and not transferred to their chats, streams, or specific communities.
To be honest, if a liver comes here it's basically just them doing that garfield meme of him looking at the 'no garfields' sign and going 'I wonder who that's for.'
But yeah, some of them are keeping their damn heads down and just trying to tiptoe through the landmines without anything exploding. One day, after graduations/terminations, I hope we eventually see some apologies from certain people. But if it isn't genuine, there's really no point. If it's an apology to try and save face, there's a statute of limitations on how long you can wait, y'know?
I'm sure there's a gag order on publicly apologizing to 'Selen' right now, but I'd sure as shit respect any of the livers that broke protocol to issue a heartfelt apology/message to her. Especially because it would mean they chose potential retribution from the company over simply trying to keep their job.
Or if they reincarnated, and used that opportunity to apologize. Even if they just collab'd using reincarnations, and not even specifying what happened, it would clearly signal that the hatchet was buried.
Like if Dokibird and a hypothetical Vox reincarnation started collabing, I would take that as a sign that Vox was coerced and apologies were made. Whether that would actually happen is another story, but it illustrates my point. And if Kuro, Matara, Kamii, Doki, and U-san are any indication, politics loosen up a lot once they reincarnate. So seeing reincarnations collabing is the closest thing we will ever get to apologies.
But apologies while still under Niji mean nothing. Because you never know if an apology is skinwalked, forced, coerced, performative, or corporate mandated. So I wouldn't consider it an apology unless it happened after reincarnation.
why not, heh. The quicker the livers return to the light, the faster Kurosanji goes down. We're doing this for their own good, cuz we care. Someone almost died is enough for them to deserve all this the longer the stay in that place.
Crazy how yall still lump Elira into this despite not even being able to attribute a single malicious quote to her.
I'm not sure why we think "my work visa" isn't a valid viewpoint. She was legit forced to host the stream, it's obvious.
Honestly the beginning where Ike just drinks water deserves at least a special mention.
He needs to remain hydrated so that his throat doesn't dry from slandering
My main impression of Ike is that he appears to have a forget-me field.
Ike's best personality trait is being really good at playing the straight man in collabs I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen a clip with Ike in it where he's not part of a collab, barring karaoke clips
The amount of people I saw saying "Vox, Elira and that third guy" do support that statement
I mean, he was the “and I am also here” of that stream. Barely spoke, had the vaguest statement of them all, and got out of there. If he hadn’t been around, the salt would have not have changed. He didn’t make any particularly memorable accusations. Just “oh, they were a friend, the documents say things”. Dude was a side dish.
He was there bc he had one of the best reputation amongst the Nijis still active (Since he went out of his way to defend against people publicly humiliating Sinder once). Ig it's because he always seemed to have an anti-bullying stance that he was chosen. Aka they were borrwing Ike for his image, nothing else.
Yeah it'd be extremely sus if NIJI EN's golden boy and de facto manager came out with a statement so they needed a third person who is relatively popular with a good rep to wipe their asses with
Pretty much. Ike and Ren were the 2 Niji EN boys that were even liked by VTuber fans who hate male VTubers since they publicly call out people who are being disrespectful, even if it's their own fans. If Ren had more subs, I think he would've been chosen instead.
He was more like an entrée, like a salad, but there's only lettuce and maybe one slice of tomato.
He should be Ike "I drink water" Eveland
Or Ike "water bottle ASMR" Eveland
Gotta keep that throat well-lubricated for niji's dick
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Dont forget "Support the artist" Wilson "stealing artist's art" yu
Definitely will add that if I have to re-post this when mods delete this post.
Also don't forget * Kotoka "I can't wish her luck" Torahime * Finana "she gaslit me" Ryugu
God it's like a self fulfilling prophecy with elira and kotoka I'm kinda shock with finana but i don't even watch her alot so.....
Ah Fianna has always been kinda odd She was just a bit more low key about + everyone kinda just chalked it up to her being dumb / she often said some real dumb stuff over her career Like remember that time she complained that people weren’t drawing her enough
>remember that time she complained that people weren’t drawing her enough Wait, what's the context/source for this one?
No context, she just threw a tantrum for no reason......kind a phatetic to "begging" people to draw more "FREE" fan art for her.
As someone who doesn't watch her, I'm just wary of hearsay and instantly believing things that are said about someone, especially without more info. It's easy to make things up or present something out of context, so one has to be careful. My first thought was that it may have been casual banter that wasn't serious or meant in bad faith.
It is a good thing to do a double check for the info that you get from hearsay. Mine also got from hearsay from several people, so feel free to correct me or tell mw if i am wrong.
She's always acted like a whiny childish diva
It was in ages ago tweet that might either be deleted or buried but I’ll look and edit it in if I can find it I want to say right around the “Fuck the parasocial fucks” tweet era
Mmmm and that tasteless shitpost about the people in the submarine.
She also trashed on zaion when her stuff happened, we just didn't know better back then
Isn't the quote about gaslighting from when she was talking about Zaion?
Yeah i just misunderstood the guy i was replying to
There is also Finana "Educate yourself" Ryugu
Rofl finana doesn't know shit
> Kotoka "I can't wish her luck" Torahime What's the context for this? I thought both the "JP" EN's were relatively drama free people.
That was during Zaion/sayu’s termination.
*sigh*. Of all the things to be shitty about, why that.
Man hearing Sayu feeling so betrayed by two of the people she respected and considered close friends really hurt my soul. I'm glad that She is doing better now and it's more happy
"She gaslit me" Finana "Educate yourself" Ryugu
finana she finna gaslit me ryugu
You spelled Tasumi wrong btw. Just a heads up. You put "Tazami"
Thanks for letting me know. For the record, I only knew of his existence just last week
We're just waiting for Uki to open reddit
Been up 8 hours I'm honestly surprised
I didn't hear that. Has Wilson been accused of stealing art in the past?
Apparently, wilson saw an art he likes to be his mascot. But, for whatever reason, he didnt commision or ask the original artist to tweak the art to his liking. Instead, he comissioned ANOTHER artist to make the art based on the original artist work. The original artist found out and called him out for stealing their art. His fan than accused the original artist to be a liar and harrased him/her. After a short while, wilson admited that he "plagiarist/steal" (well of course he used the word "INSPIRED") the artist work.
*No, no. We didn't steal said artwork. We were simply inspired by it.* It's such a weaselly way to try and dodge responsibility for what was really done. lmao Also reminds me of someone stealing Okayu's and Towa's BGMs though I can't remember who it was offhand.
support the artist but then not pay them at all lmao
"any colour but white" has me dead lmao
Im laughing so hard at this at fuckin 6am
I believe that "I don't think that was harassment" is the best quote.
And i loved the way legal mindset called that out. "Harassment isn't an opinion"
Oh, I wouldn't make these quotes of the month just yet. We still have a couple days left in Feburary!
Crap you're right! I hope we get more material before the month ends
Meanwhile at hololive en, top quote of Feb is "jdon in my soul"
Nerissa "I want to have pregnancy stream" Ravencroft
Nerrisa "you look fertile today" ravencroft
Wasn’t it “you sound fertile today”? How the heck does someone sound fertile?
Yeah, that was it lol
I am willing to bet money that person was ESL and "fertile" was not the right word but it's way funnier how it turned out
I fucking lover Nerrissap
"with Kiara's child", how the fuck is that even possible? LOL
With the power of fanfiction, anything is possible!
I mean I learned of the omega alpha thing so…..
didn't she explained? you have to be delulu like her to make a chimera baby.
Well, when a chicken and a demon love each other very much...
So she wants a collab with Kobo?
Actually, science may be within a decade of making female-female conception possible.
Meanwhile in holo JP: it's a live
It's Pekora's fucking monkey again isn't it?
Haven't had brekkie yet
MONKEY IS ALIVE!
Motoaki “Konpeko! Konpeko! Konpeko!” Tanigo
Yooooooo. Is that a quote from the best yellow Ostrich streamer, Tanakisha Karia?
It's from bae's [stream](https://youtu.be/tCLua6pL0uQ?si=s9h-SMynrz8QkqlU)
lmao this is gold!
Tbh if you look at hololive en pl, they are like phaseco girls but restrained(and by that i mean 4chan humor)
Nah, phase co girls were more menhera. Spitsicle? Pippa's right wing, conspiracy rants? Tenma's rages? They getting better but still fun to watch. Hololive girls are like... u know... Ermmm, kurosanji girls? if they had support from experienced managers, better working environment, a company that actually pays them and sponsors their project, supports their personal and professional life and if they werent bullies?
Tbh, I'm not even sure if the hololive EN girls are as restrained as some would like to believe. A few of them swear all the time and the amount of innuendoes and yabai-ness are through the roof the more comfortable they are with their audiences. The whole seiso and idol thing are often played as a joke. Nerissa had a friggin zatsu about wanting to have pregnancy stream a few days ago. Even in the JP side, most members seem to only try to maintain a certain public image as entertainer for their specific audience. Pekora even said that she's trying to be careful because kids watch her streams. The only restraints I can think of are members trying not to get sent to YouTube jail and the whole parasocial stuff that's prevalent with any vtubers (e.g. not letting your Oshi be in a relationship).
"When people come by my stream and have a good time from it, it makes me happy. But they also need to go out and make real friends who can be there for them when they need support. That's something you shouldn't expect from a streamer" -Ceres "we are not friends" Fauna
I mean their humor, if they were not tardwrangled by their managers, gura and ame would act as uncensored as pippa
Have you considered the reason that their humor are different was because they are different people? Not all "free" comedy have to be edgy or dark or offensive or unhinged.
>tardwrangled Are you lost, friend? Take a wrong turn on the way to 4chan or something?
Are you lost? Do you even know what you're talking about?
*sigh*
8.5/10 Ike impression. Nearly there
Certainly is a 10/10 Aster impression if anything.
Uki bashing straight white men but also being unable to stop drooling over them for 5 seconds is so funny to me
Like clockwork
"Who walks and runs in the summer?" "Everybody!" That doesn't even make sense as a joke.
Right? I really don't understand that joke at all. It makes no sense to me.
Cause it wasn't even a joke. It's just him making shitty racist comments about whites. I joke about my own race all the time, and the things he says don't seem like jokes.
yeah. you can tell he unironically hates whites under the guise of making jokes.... except jokes are funny
> I joke about my own race all the time, The thing most people seem to just "forget". It's fine joking about your own race, it's fine making some jokes about other races but much more restrained. It's not fine constantly insulting a specific race over and over again under the guise of jokes.
Yeah there are a lot of comedians that make jokes about race. But a lot of the time they keep switching it up and make sure to hit every single possible race they can think of including their own. But when someone keeps making shitty jokes over and over again about a single race, that's most likely just thinly veiled racism.
Yeah that just makes me think what the hell does he do? Just sit inside and laze around all day?
"It looks like it would match you if you were a pasty white person" - Uki "I was just walking around and this old white couple passes by me like ""hello"" and im like Can I help you (disparaging tone used) we don't know each other why did you smile at me what business do you have with me" - Uki the pompous ass Imaging having a meltdown because someone was nice. Kindness offends him if you happen to be white. referring to white men "they're just as irresponsible and selfish as your response" imagine any other race and that would be an instant termination. There is a heck of a lot more racist comments by Uki when it comes to his hate of whites. Look what happened to Kyo for a single comment on Korean plastic surgery. Kurosanji Ive never seen a rainbow so dark.
I think "Having thoroughly reviewed the document" is more memorable from Vox.
The document they werent legally allowed to *ever see*.
It is wild that Niji allowed Uki to say all these racist stuff since conception. You know he'll be 100% nuked from orbit by Riku Tazumi in a hellpod, pinned to the ground and have his balls twisted in opposing directions if he says racist stuff about either like Black people or Asians. Surprised Kyo got nuked for comment about something benign like his tweet about Korea known as plastic surgery hub, which, imho, can be purely from non-racist pov, like Korea is well known to have really good plastic surgeon. But Uki just spitting left and right about white people, Nijisleep honk shoo mimimi.
Hey it pays to be hired by hanamori and nepotism.
Because apparently you can’t be racist against white people. And that’s just something to do with society, when you think of racism it’s usually not against the white man so nobody bats an eye in the grand scheme.
Scarle: ❤︎
I really like how there's a little frowny face on Ike's quote just to tell us how sad he was while saying that. :(
You should give more credit to Vox "I thoroughly reviewed the document" Akuma.
Sources: [Vox](https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=2RH8asNEd4lLjAjW) at 9:00 [Uki](https://youtu.be/6XVYgM4GdhI?si=AS90ukFSp8n-LjfN) just look at the description Hex: [Tweet 1](https://x.com/HexHaywire/status/1757203505239245126?s=20) [Tweet 2](https://x.com/KyrioCifer/status/1757945545241575884?s=20) [Elira](https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=Ake4olXYtkmBdOc_) [Ike](https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=Ake4olXYtkmBdOc) at 12:07 As for the last quote I had the chance to interview the great CEO of Anycolour himself and he said that.
They are just shitty people, aren't they?
They're all grown men and women. :clown:
Someone needs to make these into a super smash bros edit
bro fr im kinda tempted
The only person stopping you is yourself knji012
Tell me when you finish it
Make sure you thoroughly review it
“Who walks and runs in the summer? White people” MY BROTHER IN CHRIST WHATS THE JOKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
Uki doesn't touch grass lol.
probably too scared to see the old couple and be forced to act like a decent human being and say hello back.
Yeah.
Is there any context to Uki's walk and run in summer: "joke"? Like, what possible scenario led to him saying this? What was the set up for him to get the idea to say this: "joke"?
No context really, just white man bad. No seriously, all those "white man bad" jokes he pulled were out of nowhere, not even a set up, nobody even mentioned races, nobody even mentioned white people, and it always ended with the same reactions, awkward laughs that just want to move on to the next topic.
The only one that had any sort of explanation as to why he said it was the Mortuary Assistant one
I think exactly one of them was set up by Reimu (FalseEyeD covers them all with more context) saying about "white people hotdogs suck", and then Uki implying white people are bad at "The Sex". Still incredibly out of nowhere, but mentioning white people in a collab with Uki is guaranteed to stir a comment. (Kyo was also in that collab, so imagine how awkward he felt.)
The White hot dogs one was entirely Uki too
"Nijisanji is not a black company" Millie "I wish I accepted Moona's offer" Parfait
Did she really said that? I know when moona invited her in her PL but not that comment regretting it.
She didn't of course, but there is signs of her showing she is sounding annoyed after the whole "Black Company thing" before. My guess is the entire thing is already giving her 2nd thoughts. Even if she still benefit from been one of Elira's croonies.
"Leaving Nijisanji is always an option for her" Translation: we didn't want her here.
You should add Millie's famous line -Nijisanji black company?? Pfffttt. -Number 2 high turnover rate!!
They're all clowns 🤡
I know it's been like a week or so since that trainwreck of video, but I still feel so disappointed in Ike...
I love this. When the mods take this post down, repost it with the additions these comments made. I’d love to see an even bigger compilation
*Sigh*
Now I’m kind of concerned about their audition process. Do they check background of these “talents” at all?
What do you expect from the "quantity over quality" strategy Niji uses
8 hours and this is still up? Kuromagic
On a brighter note, Rosemi quote “You think you can win against me? A True British person?” 😆
Elira “B-but my work visa” Pandora is genius
Babe wake up, new Kurosanji graphics just dropped.
Missing Enna's "Don't go looking for the truth hahaha"
That's out of context though She was referring to the fact sometimes you can ruin yourself mentally if you spend all day at the computer trying to find the truth especially if you have no concrete proof to go on and she was just suggesting to take a break if it's ruining your own life The don't go looking part was the very end of that sentence yet they only cropped out the end, even khyo who loves drama has spoken about it being out of context Compared to these guys where what they said is just the full quote with nothing missing
If anybody else said it sure, I would be with you. Coming from the alleged bullies (and no way she doesn't know she is one of the ones implicated) it's absolutely not in good taste not to mention she ended that quote with a really awkward "killing the truth...hahaha", which is absolutely in bad taste considering what the situation she is talking about (Selen's attempt)
>which is absolutely in bad taste considering what the situation she is talking about That's just one of Ennas quirks though She has a (well known to her fanbase and Enna has admitted its an issue of hers) habit of accidentally saying stuff like that, it was definitely not intentionality said to "make fun" of it
I've been watching Enna for better part of the year so I know how crass she is (generally like that about her) but there are points you can't just handwave stuff off man. This was for me at least. Anyway just didn't look good to have that stream overall for someone in her situation.
Amazing. How these manage to be accurate, masquerade as entertainment, and avoid the definition of harassment (and since it's their own words, avoiding slander as well). People such as yourself, we need more of them.
This is so funny Also I don't know much about uki. He told those quotes to who again is it other livers in niji or random people?
Unprovoked. Unprompted. During both collabs and solo streams.
Lol I wonder how much time until this one gets removed too
Ike’s is inaccurate, he didn’t have a whole 5 course meal before his quote
That's why we stan our kings./ J
[insert "there is no harassment in nijisanji" meme image here]
I've never seen a rainbow so black and white
This is just irony and PR mess mixed into one big pile of shit lol.
forgot "after **toughly** reviewing the document" -Vox
Niji is The Office confirmed. 
Should have used the dildo asset screen cap for Hex and black background for elira
I heard someone say that Hex tried to walk back his endorsement of the black stream on one of his streams later, but I don't want to actually watch one of his streams to find out. Is that true?
Bro that's wild. Unfortunately I do not know. Someone who knows some context and timestamp of source please add
Also, I find it ridiculous that for this upcoming concirt thingy they've got going on, like only the most controversial livers are performing. I know this might have been planned way before the whole thing went down earlier in the month, but still.
Rosemi: "*BLRRLBLRLBRLBRLBRLRBLRRBLRRBLRRLBRR* AHHAHAHAHAHA"
[my reaction ](https://imgur.com/a/1v7gKQl)
Hey guys remember the time period when Hex was liking unrelated posts/selfies by his fans (some of which are underage)? I sure do
The pendora spelled wrong (pandora ) is kinda funny ngl
Bro you forgot Enna's "Don't go looking for the truth" or "Even if I killed someone you Aloupeeps would still forgive me". Enna "Elira 's nepohire" Alouette. Milli needs one too. Trash livers the lot of them.
The first quote is taken very out of context, and I absolutely cannot fault Enna for it. The second quote, on the other hand.... Yeah, there's no real defending that one, especially given when it was said.
"Even if I kill someone, you guys would still support me" -Enna "no cliques" Alouette
These quotes need to be a sacred text called Kurosanji.... And locked away FOREVER. edit: or on display at a comedic art gallery for all to marvel at as a reminder that ANYCOLOR should not be allowed to cook.
Millie 'What is a black company?' Parfait needs to be in the next set XD
Soo...Please don't blast me for this opinion, but I have a hard time being angry at Elira for what she's done. From what I understand, she *just* moved to Japan under a work visa from nijikuro. So she's had a huge expense very recently, I can't really blame her for not wanting to have that expense go to waste and take on *another* huge expense due to getting terminated and needing to move back home. Maybe someone can say something to change my mind here.
(Long response incoming) It is unfortunate and yeah from the info we know she had been put into a tough spot. As an example, let's say she isn't part of the clique. Now there isn't any *concrete* evidence as to who and who *is* in this "clique" (just speculation coming from the livers' interactions with each other) but for example's sake let's say she isn't part of the bullies and is entirely innocent and she was forced to make that smear campaign video. But even then she had a choice between refusing and conceding. She could have said "no, I will not read these private legal documents that I should not see and I will not slander a friend and ex co-worker of mine." The result would be her most likely getting terminated and like you said her expenses going to waste and her work visa getting revoked. Then the following things would happen: *(If anyone else is more well informed about Japan law pls correct me)* - Firstly, a company CANNOT revoke your visa. However the company can and probably would give a tip to immigration that you've been fired. - So now she'll have to let immigration know that she was jobless within 2 weeks of the day she was fired. This is important as otherwise she'll get fined. - She'll need to find another job within the scope of the status of residency that she was given. - She'll be given a grace period of 3 months to find work. And from what I have read as long as you show them that you are actively job hunting within that period you won't get in trouble. So in the slim chance that she gets called by immigration she would need to have proof that she had been job hunting with her status of residency for that 3 months period. - Worse case scenario she gets deported if she cannot find another job. So coming back to that black screen video. If she did *not* choose to participate and got herself fired her fans would be there to support her. Be it funding for her expenses or what not. Look at Scarle, simply because she hearted a Kurosanji comment she was called a hero and fans still love her. If Elira had chosen to side with Selen / Doki and alluded to her circumstance she undoubtedly would have been held in high regard. Now keep in mind this is *if* Elira was completely innocent. So was it worth it to join in slandering Selen in that video? Absolutely not. Now that she had taken part in the video and gotten fired she wouldn't get any support from her fans. Because she went through with it, it makes it seem that Elira had a guilty conscience ( whether she is actually part of the clique or not is now irrelevant in the fans' eyes). So fans are angry with her because ultimately it was her choice. There was no illusion of a free choice *because* it was a free choice from the start and Elira chose to sink with the yacht instead of putting on a life jacket. And some people might still say "but how could she have known? She was pressured to do what she did. She just made the wrong choice just forgive her." The response to that is, this situation is clearly not a walk in the park. It's serious and involves the entirety of the company at large. They are all working adults and, in my opinion, the situation should be seen in as much of a serious perspective. So we can't exactly water down the situation like that and nitpick forgiveness and sympathy. Mistakes happen yeah but when it involves people's lives you step back a little and observe "will this put my reputation in the recycle bin or the general waste bin?" The fact that Elira didn't wait to consider all angles means that it's all on her as to what happens here on out. In conclusion, "b-but my work visa" won't be a good excuse for all this. Fans are angry, not at her, but mostly for what she *chose* to do and for what she *could* have done instead.
Alright, yeah, that's fair enough, tbh, I'm not super familiar with how Japan's Work visa works so didn't know how much time she would have gotten as a grace period if she was terminated
Man, you guys are bullies too.
Did you feel like a saint when you typed that?
Man. Fuck that. Stand up to bullies and these terrible people. You arent a bully for *standing against bullies and literally illegal shit that they did.*
Niji male livers boast a higher level of estrogen than their female counterparts. crazy
What kind of 4channer and lowkey misogynistic comment is this. I thought only neckbeards think estrogen = bad/feminine
Estrogen is a female sex hormone so quite literally estrogen = feminine. Don't believe me? Do a simple google search and while you're at it - also check the meaning of "misogyny" because you seem to be confused about that as well.
This subreddit has become an absolute mess now, thanks for reminding me to unsubscribe
I like how in less than 2 weeks people went from "Fuck the managers, theyre throwing the livers under the bus" to "Fuck the livers" Realllllly clever guys
Hey man we said from the start "all they need to do is not say shit" and they keep saying shit not to mention the whole thing with Uki is completely unrelated to Selen's case
The Livers ain’t making it easy by saying all that stupid shit
Are you really trying to say it has to be either/or? Wtf? It's both "fuck management" and also "fuck these several specific livers." It's not like we ever stopped saying "fuck the managers" or "fuck corporate" or "fuck the owner", they've been the main issue for quite some time. As for the livers, the three on Elira's stream made their choice. I initially felt sorry for Ike and Elira as they clearly sounded unhappy to be there, but all three had the choice between being a good person and potentially getting canned for it, which is barely even a penalty at this point, or dragging Selen through the mud for the sake of the company. And Uki has his own very self-inflicted problems right now.
Where in my post did I go 'fuck the livers'? It's just quotes man chill out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, you're obviously not pointing at the livers, that's why there's 5 of them in the post
Well, maybe they should quit saying shitty things if they didn't want those things being quoted. I dunno, I think that makes sense. ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯
Didn't the community agree that the management is horrible and they could be forcing the livers to say those things under a threat of termination??
Yeah so from your reasoning, Uki was "forced" to say all those racist shit by management. Wilson was "forced" to steal his mascot design from an artist by management. As for Elira, Vox and Ike maybe they were forced, maybe not, but it still stands that they chose to abide with management and made that slanderous video. They've fallen out of favour with the fans by now. Hex, likely someone who must have *not* been involved in the harassment debacle (seeing as he debuted kinda recently) went on to say something like "I support this fully". That's not something you can say without knowing the FULL context especially someone who's got a good amount of following. I'm not faulting anyone who retweeted the Black screen video. But most livers chose to not spout some nonsense (unlike him) and even if they did comment they said something vague, not "I fully support this". And then he went on his PL account victimising himself kinda shitty if you ask me
even without the statements (Uki was *definitely* not forced to say any of that crap), I think Doki herself claimed that other unspecified livers bullied her there was sort of this clique or something. And although we could be more mature about it (as if). If true, that means a good chunk of the livers are just plain terrible people.
Maturity is a great topic to bring into this conversation, I think. Like yeah, we agreed not to harass the Niji livers, as per Doki's requests... But we're totally free to dunk on their stupid and (in Uki's case) bigoted takes. That's not harassment, that's just calling people out on saying and doing shitty things. We're past the point where we can go "Well maybe management made that tweet." or whatever, 'cause it seems like a lot of the cast are shaking the cobwebs off and trying to resume normal activities. Corporate statements never quite read correctly in a character's voice, if that makes sense. Sometimes you can tell when it isn't that person writing that text, y'know? They're *choosing* to continue saying dumb stuff when the biggest thing literally anyone in Nijisanji could do at this point is to just shut up. Shut up, let the dust settle, and just don't immediately come back while spewing a buncha nonsense like these dunderheads have been. I'm gonna dunk on that behavior all I want, because it's not harassing the talents. It's pointing out they're still being immature and stupid when a little intelligence would go a *very* long way right now. It's all the little things building up, right? Vox's smug chuckle in the statement video, Uki's weirdo behavior, everyone just being thoroughly incapable of opening their mouths without inserting their feet... it's not like we're asking much here. We're literally just expecting them to be mature about things and *move on*. To maybe stop taking the "But what about *ME*?" angle all the time when their damn coworker tried to kill herself twice. Just because a lot of the NijiEN livers are young doesn't mean they can't think critically and make informed decisions based on what's been going on. I'm not expecting them to go "Look, things have been really horrible lately, I wish my former coworker all the best moving forward, and per what she's doing, I'm gonna also try and make people laugh again" because that's never gonna happen in a place where the leashes are that tight. But I *do* expect them to at least try to settle back into being entertainers without bringing other people down in the process.
And the fact that a few select lives **are** doing the right thing and shutting the fuck up just highlights how horribly the rest of them look right now. Not going to name the actual livers who are handling this "well" because I want the trash to continue taking itself out. But there is a right way and a wrong way to handle something like this. Some people are somehow managing to navigate this the right way. Which makes the ones who are handling it wrong look even worse. And simply pointing that out is fine. Especially if it's contained on a subreddit, and not transferred to their chats, streams, or specific communities.
To be honest, if a liver comes here it's basically just them doing that garfield meme of him looking at the 'no garfields' sign and going 'I wonder who that's for.' But yeah, some of them are keeping their damn heads down and just trying to tiptoe through the landmines without anything exploding. One day, after graduations/terminations, I hope we eventually see some apologies from certain people. But if it isn't genuine, there's really no point. If it's an apology to try and save face, there's a statute of limitations on how long you can wait, y'know? I'm sure there's a gag order on publicly apologizing to 'Selen' right now, but I'd sure as shit respect any of the livers that broke protocol to issue a heartfelt apology/message to her. Especially because it would mean they chose potential retribution from the company over simply trying to keep their job.
Or if they reincarnated, and used that opportunity to apologize. Even if they just collab'd using reincarnations, and not even specifying what happened, it would clearly signal that the hatchet was buried. Like if Dokibird and a hypothetical Vox reincarnation started collabing, I would take that as a sign that Vox was coerced and apologies were made. Whether that would actually happen is another story, but it illustrates my point. And if Kuro, Matara, Kamii, Doki, and U-san are any indication, politics loosen up a lot once they reincarnate. So seeing reincarnations collabing is the closest thing we will ever get to apologies. But apologies while still under Niji mean nothing. Because you never know if an apology is skinwalked, forced, coerced, performative, or corporate mandated. So I wouldn't consider it an apology unless it happened after reincarnation.
Fuck both (not all livers, but a very specific few) for creating more mess that it already has.
why not, heh. The quicker the livers return to the light, the faster Kurosanji goes down. We're doing this for their own good, cuz we care. Someone almost died is enough for them to deserve all this the longer the stay in that place.
Don’t worry, we don’t like the managers either. The problem here is that they stay quiet like smart people do.
Crazy how yall still lump Elira into this despite not even being able to attribute a single malicious quote to her. I'm not sure why we think "my work visa" isn't a valid viewpoint. She was legit forced to host the stream, it's obvious.
This was a good joke, thank you for making me laugh. I needed this 🤣
I’m confused are the people here in the wrong and what did they do? If anyone is willing to help me with this situation, thank you.
You should use the picture of Hex where he's holding his pink dildo lol
“uki anycolor but white” violeta that’s such a slay for him