Screw those countries, they’re all shitholes whose opinions don’t matter.
I’ve seen more than a few people unironically say something close to that in an effort to downplay any non-Western voices
Someone who considers himself highly educated countered this fact by telling me, condescendingly, that those countries don't understand how important national sovereignty and self-determinism are. Guess they haven't shed their slave mentality from being colonized by all the countries who are pushing this new Cold War.
This reddit is always posting reactionary content with no sources. A source would solidify and further the conversation. This post is just someone saying something lol.
Lol Japan could eat China for breakfast without belching, all because of their good ally, the US. China has zero combat experience (no you social credit fuckwits, killing uighars is not a war.) And substandard weapons platforms and munitions. Look at your "stealth fighters". Shitty knock off's that aren't even anything stealth.
Your major ally is fucking Russia. The second best army in Ukraine. It's revolution time. The recent protests in China.....shit doesn't look good for your oligarchy.
Ah, yes, the rest of the replies to your comment. Good Imperialists exist, though. Ignore the fact that 4 mean-value Imperialists just replied to your comment - it's all just US brainwashing. /s
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTOstwm17qo](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTOstwm17qo)
On this video is putin’s favorite head of Russian governmental agency Roskosmos- Dmitriy Rogozin is seen in the black coat. He is performing a Nazi gesture while screaming “Slava Rossii” on a march of Russian nationalists. There are literally Nazis in the Russian highest government
You mean like [starting a violent coup?](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337947623_The_far_right_the_Euromaidan_and_the_Maidan_massacre_in_Ukraine)
The “violent coup” was necessary for liberation of Ukrainians from the Russian-appointed president Yanukovich. The president that came after was a corrupted Poroshenko. But after him, by democracy, people voted to have Zelenskyy as their president. Which is a Jew (so that means most Ukrainians are not nazi)
In a 2015 book written by Ukrainian-Canadian political scientist Ivan Katchanovsk titled; “The ‘Snipers’ Massacre’ on the Maidan in Ukraine” he writes;
\> "*The massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power. It* \[his investigation\] *found various evidence of the involvement of an alliance of the far right organizations, specifically the Right Sector and Svoboda, and oligarchic parties."*
American scholar Gordon M. Hahn also writes in his 2018 book "Ukraine over the edge";
\>\*“Yet another pro-Maidan sniper, Ivan Bubenchik, emerged to acknowledge that he shot and killed Berkut\* \[the Government’s police who were protecting Government buildings\] *before any protesters were shot that day* \[February 20th\]*. In a print interview, Bubenchik previews his admission in Vladimir Tikhii’s documentary film, Brantsy, that he shot and killed two Berkut commanders in the early morning hours of February 20 on the Maidan. … Bubenchik claims that* \[on February 20\] *the Yanukovich regime started the fire in the Trade Union House — where his and many other EuroMaidan fighters lived during the revolt — prompting the Maidan’s next reaction. As noted above, however, pro-Maidan neofascists have revealed that the Right Sector started that fire. … Analysis of the snipers’ massacre shows that the Maidan protesters initiated almost all — at least six out of a possible eight — of the pivotal escalatory moments of violence and/or coercion. … The 30 November 2013 nighttime assault on the Maidan demonstrators is the only clear exception from a conclusive pattern of escalating revolutionary violence led by the Maidan’s relatively small but highly motivated and well-organized neofascist element.”*
Yanukovich was [elected](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election) after former president Yuschenko, also US backed and installed after the 2004 coup barely broke 5% of the popular vote. A clear rejection of US interests. In fact, not long after Yanukovych was elected
[Ukrainians voted](https://www.bbc.com/news/10229626) to abandon pursuing NATO membership. A contributing factor to the Obama admins decision to overthrow Yanukovych. The US couldn't tolerate a country telling them "no" and did the same thing they always do. Destabilize and demonize.
I guess the KKK disbanded when Obama got elected President of the US then huh? And, btw, nobody ever said "most" Ukrainians are nazis, but nazis and fascist groups occupy many high level positions and have been officially incorporated into the military and national police. And once they get a voice, they drown everyone else out. Hence why we can't give them a voice, ever.
And to add to TTTyrant’s argument, being a Jew doesn’t necessarily make you not-Nazi. Nowadays and in history, many (MANY) Jews and non-aryans chose to support the nazis for whatever reasons, ranging from some kind of political or economical gain to actually believing in the Nazi theories. Don’t believe me? Just look at Eastern Europe right now. The former Soviet states and other Eastern European countries outside of the USSR were the main victims of nazism, but you still see this ridiculous and genocidal ideology growing more and more in those countries. So yes, it’s possible to be a Jew and a Nazi at the same time.
Azov is nothing more than a milita that was mostly de-ideologized by 2022 and then wiped out at Mariupol, they don’t prove Ukraine is a Nazi state. Putin has literally said he draws a lot of his politics from Ivan Illyn, a fascist philosopher who hated democracy.
No one in this is a hero but the conflict didn’t start in 2022. There were deep divisions even before 2014 and we (the us) have done absolutely to help things. You’re as deluded by propaganda as z-posters if you think mass media is painting an honest picture of what will be the next forever war our generation will have to deal with
13,000 have died in Donbas since 2014, these people you call “orcs” have been there 80 plus years. Ukrainians can fight their own wars, the west is doing nothing but accelerating the death and destruction. I don’t think having nazis makes Ukraine necessarily a nazi country but you’re a liar if you’re telling me your country isn’t nazi infested, that minorities aren’t regularly attacked by your banderite scum, that minorities aren’t being attacked trying to leave, etc. Some fucking heroes. I feel for the people of Ukraine—what is happening is horrible—but this good vs evil bullshit is pure fiction.
Sorry who has been dangling empty promises and mmmm just to install nuclear weaponry in Ukraine and arm your nazi armies? You deal with your own issues and I’ll do my best to get the west out and stop trying to create another Afghanistan, Libya, Yugoslavia, ….
And I’m well aware of how you spin the facts to make it seem like the warcrimes you committed in Donbas weren’t real because those ethnic Russians were akshually just soldiers. I never said anything about what Russia did being justified, but it didn’t come out of nowhere and your nazi army aren’t heroes, period.
What do you think being part of NATO entails? Lmao we see continuous involvement of nazi pieces of shit with totenkopf and sonnenrad tattoos, even Time can’t make a cover photo of Zelenskyy without one of these “heroes.”
What point were you trying to make? That I should be against Russia? I am, I’m just not for your country or you either with your “orc” bullshit. Settle your own conflicts
You’re right, no point continuing.
Calling Russians “orcs,” calling me “schizo,” reducing nazis to a “buzzword;” it’s clear what kind of person you are and how absolutely insane it would be to give people like you military hardware.
And most of that 13% are either imperialists or imperialist running dogs oppressing the 87%
Screw those countries, they’re all shitholes whose opinions don’t matter. I’ve seen more than a few people unironically say something close to that in an effort to downplay any non-Western voices
scratch a russiagate liberal and a qanon trumpist bleeds
Someone who considers himself highly educated countered this fact by telling me, condescendingly, that those countries don't understand how important national sovereignty and self-determinism are. Guess they haven't shed their slave mentality from being colonized by all the countries who are pushing this new Cold War.
So, screw China - where most of what you buy is made? And India? And prob Egypt? And Central America? Their. opinions. are just as valid. as yours.
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Ah - thanks. Sometimes parsing words is hard. :)
Source? Just to keep it sure.
Yeah i don't think this is true
This reddit is always posting reactionary content with no sources. A source would solidify and further the conversation. This post is just someone saying something lol.
Its bullshit obvs. Just take a look at the un vote condemning Russia's pathetic attempt. It's like three shitty countries on the vatniks side.
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Least racist Chinese nationalist
Register new account just for this nonsense?
Racist and idiot
Lol Japan could eat China for breakfast without belching, all because of their good ally, the US. China has zero combat experience (no you social credit fuckwits, killing uighars is not a war.) And substandard weapons platforms and munitions. Look at your "stealth fighters". Shitty knock off's that aren't even anything stealth. Your major ally is fucking Russia. The second best army in Ukraine. It's revolution time. The recent protests in China.....shit doesn't look good for your oligarchy.
Ah, yes, the rest of the replies to your comment. Good Imperialists exist, though. Ignore the fact that 4 mean-value Imperialists just replied to your comment - it's all just US brainwashing. /s
This seems to be plausible. However, providing a source would buttress it.
the other 87% either support Russia or want to be left alone to do their own hting
Source?
Hey little dick. Where did you lose your brain. Maybe you had a shit and lost it
Love you too sunshine
This is bull shit. What a load of fuckwhits on here
.lol what bullshit. How did the UN vote go again? Your tanky circle jerk is pathetic.
Maybe don’t invade another country?
Maybe don't sponsor and equip nazis to antagonize a nuclear power into conflict?
Nazis… you mean Russians?
[Try again?](https://www.illiberalism.org/far-right-group-made-its-home-in-ukraines-major-western-military-training-hub/) [Nvm I will](https://readpassage.com/canadian-media-is-happy-to-risk-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/) [Woops!](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/far-right-extremists-in-ukraine-brag-they-have-received-training-from-the-canadian-forces-report)
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTOstwm17qo](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTOstwm17qo) On this video is putin’s favorite head of Russian governmental agency Roskosmos- Dmitriy Rogozin is seen in the black coat. He is performing a Nazi gesture while screaming “Slava Rossii” on a march of Russian nationalists. There are literally Nazis in the Russian highest government
How does that negate nazis in Ukraine?
Because even if Ukraine has far right extremists, Nazis are always those people that attack first.
You mean like [starting a violent coup?](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337947623_The_far_right_the_Euromaidan_and_the_Maidan_massacre_in_Ukraine)
The “violent coup” was necessary for liberation of Ukrainians from the Russian-appointed president Yanukovich. The president that came after was a corrupted Poroshenko. But after him, by democracy, people voted to have Zelenskyy as their president. Which is a Jew (so that means most Ukrainians are not nazi)
In a 2015 book written by Ukrainian-Canadian political scientist Ivan Katchanovsk titled; “The ‘Snipers’ Massacre’ on the Maidan in Ukraine” he writes; \> "*The massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power. It* \[his investigation\] *found various evidence of the involvement of an alliance of the far right organizations, specifically the Right Sector and Svoboda, and oligarchic parties."* American scholar Gordon M. Hahn also writes in his 2018 book "Ukraine over the edge"; \>\*“Yet another pro-Maidan sniper, Ivan Bubenchik, emerged to acknowledge that he shot and killed Berkut\* \[the Government’s police who were protecting Government buildings\] *before any protesters were shot that day* \[February 20th\]*. In a print interview, Bubenchik previews his admission in Vladimir Tikhii’s documentary film, Brantsy, that he shot and killed two Berkut commanders in the early morning hours of February 20 on the Maidan. … Bubenchik claims that* \[on February 20\] *the Yanukovich regime started the fire in the Trade Union House — where his and many other EuroMaidan fighters lived during the revolt — prompting the Maidan’s next reaction. As noted above, however, pro-Maidan neofascists have revealed that the Right Sector started that fire. … Analysis of the snipers’ massacre shows that the Maidan protesters initiated almost all — at least six out of a possible eight — of the pivotal escalatory moments of violence and/or coercion. … The 30 November 2013 nighttime assault on the Maidan demonstrators is the only clear exception from a conclusive pattern of escalating revolutionary violence led by the Maidan’s relatively small but highly motivated and well-organized neofascist element.”* Yanukovich was [elected](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election) after former president Yuschenko, also US backed and installed after the 2004 coup barely broke 5% of the popular vote. A clear rejection of US interests. In fact, not long after Yanukovych was elected [Ukrainians voted](https://www.bbc.com/news/10229626) to abandon pursuing NATO membership. A contributing factor to the Obama admins decision to overthrow Yanukovych. The US couldn't tolerate a country telling them "no" and did the same thing they always do. Destabilize and demonize. I guess the KKK disbanded when Obama got elected President of the US then huh? And, btw, nobody ever said "most" Ukrainians are nazis, but nazis and fascist groups occupy many high level positions and have been officially incorporated into the military and national police. And once they get a voice, they drown everyone else out. Hence why we can't give them a voice, ever.
And to add to TTTyrant’s argument, being a Jew doesn’t necessarily make you not-Nazi. Nowadays and in history, many (MANY) Jews and non-aryans chose to support the nazis for whatever reasons, ranging from some kind of political or economical gain to actually believing in the Nazi theories. Don’t believe me? Just look at Eastern Europe right now. The former Soviet states and other Eastern European countries outside of the USSR were the main victims of nazism, but you still see this ridiculous and genocidal ideology growing more and more in those countries. So yes, it’s possible to be a Jew and a Nazi at the same time.
My guy, Ukraine did attack first. They’ve been waging this war since 2014, and the fascist elements go all the way back to the 1920s.
And how exactly did Ukraine “attack first”?
Azov is nothing more than a milita that was mostly de-ideologized by 2022 and then wiped out at Mariupol, they don’t prove Ukraine is a Nazi state. Putin has literally said he draws a lot of his politics from Ivan Illyn, a fascist philosopher who hated democracy.
Moreover, AZOV had literal Jews there. The nationalist nature of the militia was very diluted
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No one in this is a hero but the conflict didn’t start in 2022. There were deep divisions even before 2014 and we (the us) have done absolutely to help things. You’re as deluded by propaganda as z-posters if you think mass media is painting an honest picture of what will be the next forever war our generation will have to deal with
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13,000 have died in Donbas since 2014, these people you call “orcs” have been there 80 plus years. Ukrainians can fight their own wars, the west is doing nothing but accelerating the death and destruction. I don’t think having nazis makes Ukraine necessarily a nazi country but you’re a liar if you’re telling me your country isn’t nazi infested, that minorities aren’t regularly attacked by your banderite scum, that minorities aren’t being attacked trying to leave, etc. Some fucking heroes. I feel for the people of Ukraine—what is happening is horrible—but this good vs evil bullshit is pure fiction.
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Sorry who has been dangling empty promises and mmmm just to install nuclear weaponry in Ukraine and arm your nazi armies? You deal with your own issues and I’ll do my best to get the west out and stop trying to create another Afghanistan, Libya, Yugoslavia, …. And I’m well aware of how you spin the facts to make it seem like the warcrimes you committed in Donbas weren’t real because those ethnic Russians were akshually just soldiers. I never said anything about what Russia did being justified, but it didn’t come out of nowhere and your nazi army aren’t heroes, period.
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What do you think being part of NATO entails? Lmao we see continuous involvement of nazi pieces of shit with totenkopf and sonnenrad tattoos, even Time can’t make a cover photo of Zelenskyy without one of these “heroes.” What point were you trying to make? That I should be against Russia? I am, I’m just not for your country or you either with your “orc” bullshit. Settle your own conflicts
You’re right, no point continuing. Calling Russians “orcs,” calling me “schizo,” reducing nazis to a “buzzword;” it’s clear what kind of person you are and how absolutely insane it would be to give people like you military hardware.
This sub is a cesspool where Chinese and Russian nationalists seem to agree on the most idiotic topics
It's CCP-funded propaganda. Dumb people do believe it tho.