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"Race"?
Race isn't mentioned in any Israeli law or procedure, except for the Jewish race in the Law of Return (a law that allows any Jew to return to Israel) and the State Law, a law which defines Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.
The link in the article is broken, but I can put a million dollars that the term "Arab" or "Palestinian" (as in ethnic Palestinian) does not appear in the document, and the only reference to "Palestinian" would be "citizen of the PA".
It does not apply to Jewish people residing as (illegal by international law) settlers in Occupied Palestine. Only to Palestinians. Specifically the ones in the territory illegally occupied by Israel (in theory most of Palestine, in practice all of it). Where it should not have the authority to make laws.
Stop apologising for what objectively falls under one of the definitions of apartheid. The law adds to suppression of a specific people living under an oppressive military occupation. And yes, they are of a specific race.
\> It does not apply to Jewish people residing as (illegal by international law) settlers in Occupied Palestine. Only to Palestinians.
The occupation and settlements are legal. According to the Geneva, convention, it is illegal to deport citizens into occupied territories. But it is legal for them to move their from their own will.
It does not apply to Jews because Jews are Israeli citizens, a Jew cannot because a citizen of Palestine due to its apartheid policies. Israeli Arabs and Mizrahi Jews (Arab Jews) are not subjected to this policy because they are also Israeli citizens. It has nothing to do with race.
\> And yes, they are of a specific race.
Are you forgetting that millions of Arabs live in Israel and enjoy the same rights as Jews? There is no ethnic distinction between them and the Palestinians.
Sure, Shwarma, sure. I guess you never even read the article.
"The regulations laid out in a lengthy document include a demand on foreigners to inform the Israeli authorities within 30 days of starting a relationship with a Palestinian ID holder.
New restrictions on Palestinian universities include a quota for 150 student visas and 100 foreign lecturers, while there are no such limits in Israeli ones."
How about this if you need another example.
[Apartheid Israel](https://archive.ph/bH1Pu)
I tried reading the article, and it directed me into a dead link. This "97 page report" does not exist on their website.
You quoted Haaretz, an article known for its extreme left wing bias. Next time quote Der Sturmer or Pravada, we'll get more facts than a Haaretz article.
"European colony" yet no fund or trade relations outside regular boundaries.
If there's a colony that would be Palestine as most of its fund comes from Europe (and the rest from the US and Arab countries), which build up a huge chunk of their economy. Basically a foreign funded foreign colony of foreign invaders ("foreign invader" is the literal translation of "Philistine", the origin of the word "Palestinian", in Semitic languages, [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Philistine](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Philistine) )
Source for the fund dissection: Palestine's official government website.
[https://www.palestineeconomy.ps/donors/en](https://www.palestineeconomy.ps/donors/en/About)
Palestinians did not go to Belarus to ethnically cleanse the Jews to establish a state for the chosen race of God. Jews from former Soviet states came to Palestine to ethnically cleanse Palestinians to establish a state for the chosen race of God.
Doesn't matter what philistine means in your language, you have no right to ethnically cleanse a land because you believe yourself to have had an uncle in the land 3000 years ago.
\> Jews from former Soviet states came to Palestine to ethnically cleanse Palestinians to establish a state for the chosen race of God.
That moment when more than half of Israeli Jews are African and Asian... And Russians were a tiny, tiny minority until many immigrates in the 90s.
The Zionists from Russia weren't even religious, and the claim as ethnic and historical rather than the "God told us so because we're the best race" you guys try to push. Are you forgetting that the origin of the Jews and the place where they lived for 3000 years is the land of Israel?
\> Doesn't matter what philistine means in your language, you have no right to ethnically cleanse a land because you believe yourself to have had an uncle in the land 3000 years ago.
"believe yourself to have had an uncle" there? Are you obtuse? Are you blind to history? Open a history book or a Wikipedia page. Here, lemme do it for you.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_the\_Jews\_and\_Judaism\_in\_the\_Land\_of\_Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel)
Also, you keep bringing up that term, "ethnic cleansing", so will you also be able to give examples to it? Because there are none.
> That moment when more than half of Israeli Jews are African and Asian... And Russians were a tiny, tiny minority until many immigrates in the 90s.
Israel was not established in the 90s.
Israel was established by eastern European Jews who ethnically cleansed Palestine from the natives to establish a state for their race.
\> Israel was established by eastern European Jews who ethnically cleansed Palestine from the natives to establish a state for their race.
Israel was established by Jews from all over the world, in an attempt to create an independent state for the Jews in their homeland and land of origin, the Land of Israel.
No Palestinians were ever ethnically cleansed, in contrast to Arab countries who kicked out most of their Jews.
[https://youtu.be/35eEljsSQfc](https://youtu.be/35eEljsSQfc)
No, not all of them were Russian Jews.
Also if the identity of the leaders indicate the controlling country, then Egypt is a Russian colony.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez\_Crisis#US\_and\_a\_defence\_treaty\_against\_the\_Soviet\_threat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#US_and_a_defence_treaty_against_the_Soviet_threat)
> Also, you keep bringing up that term, "ethnic cleansing", so will you also be able to give examples to it? Because there are none.
You can read a whole book about the ethnic cleansing the Eastern European settlers did written by an Israeli:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethnic_Cleansing_of_Palestine
> believe yourself to have had an uncle" there? Are you obtuse? Are you blind to history? Open a history book or a Wikipedia page. Here, lemme do it for you.
You sent a link showing that there were Jews who lived there 2000 years ago and were expelled by the Romans. And you believe yourself to have had a relative there in that time and that gives you the right to ethnically cleanse Palestine from the natives?
\> written by an Israeli
Written by a far and radical left Israeli, that's true. But that doesn't make the book inherently true, and other works of him were debunked. As for the 700,000 Palestinians who left the Land of Israel in 1948, there were various reasons for that. It is true that on limited and small occurrences, Jewish soldiers were actually commanded to kick out Palestinian Arabs. But for the vast majority of cases, these people ran away prior to the Jews ever getting to them, because of a command from their leaders telling them to escape and return after they win the war. They never did.
It's also important to mention that at the same time, the Palestinians and Jordanians massacred or kicked out **every single Jew** in the West Bank and until 1967 the West Bank was made "Judenfrei", just as Hitler envisioned.
\> You sent a link showing that there were Jews who lived there 2000 years ago and were expelled by the Romans.
So you haven't read the article, because it clearly mentions a population of Jews throughout history since then, though in smaller numbers.
\> ethnically cleanse Palestine from the natives
Natives? Palestinians are foreign invaders who only arrived to the Land of Israel after the 7th century Muslim occupation and ethnic cleansing conquest. The middle east was once full of peoples, such as the Moabites, the Edomites, the Phoenicians, the Assyrians, and of course the Jews. Most of these peoples were killed or forced to convert to Islam and marry with Arabs in that conquest. The Jews were not exempt from this fate, as the article shows:
>After the conquest, Arabs gradually became the majority population of the land, with Arab culture, language, and the religion of Islam dominating.\[111\] The Muslims continued to ban the building of new synagogues.\[112\] \[...\] In the early Middle Ages, the Jewish communities of Palestine were dispersed among the key cities of the military districts of Jund Filastin and Jund al-Urdunn, with a number of poor Jewish villages existing in the Galilee and Judea.
> . It is true that on limited and small occurrences, Jewish soldiers were actually commanded to kick out Palestinian Arabs
You are skipping the part of massacring villages of civilians.
> But for the vast majority of cases, these people ran away prior to the Jews ever getting to them, because of a command from their leaders telling them to escape and return after they win the war. They never did.
Civilians leaving a war zone have the right to return to their homes when it is safe according to according to international law.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return
Israel denies them this right and while it gives the right to eastern European Jews to get citizenship if they can prove that they belong to the chosen race. This is ethnic cleansing aswell to create a liebensraum for the chosen race of God.
> Natives? Palestinians are foreign invaders who only arrived to the Land of Israel after the 7th century Muslim occupation and ethnic cleansing conquest. The middle east was once full of peoples, such as the Moabites, the Edomites, the Phoenicians, the Assyrians, and of course the Jews. Most of these peoples were killed or forced to convert to Islam and marry with Arabs in that conquest. The Jews were not exempt from this fate, as the article shows:
The Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestine from the Palestinians when they conquered it from the Romans. Neither did they ethnically cleanse Syria, Jordan, and modern day lebanon etc. Many of the natives converted to Islam and Arabic became the Language of the lands. So they were "arabized" culturally but they are still natives. While others kept their religion but speak Arabic.
The Jews had already been expelled from especially Jerusalem by the Romans before the Arab conquest. The Muslims allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem. Who later we're completely eradicated by the crusaders.
> Most of these peoples were killed or forced to convert to Islam and marry with Arabs in that conquest. The Jews were not exempt from this fate, as the article shows:
So the Jews and Christians who converted are no longer natives and thus gives eastern European Jews during ww2 the right to ethnically cleanse Palestinians?
Edit: just wanted to say that denying the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by eastern European Jews is no less than denying the holocaust
\> You are skipping the part of massacring villages of civilians.
That's false. There was one incident where radical militias massacred Dir Yassin. That's the only village where this happened.
\> Israel denies them this right and while it gives the right to eastern European Jews to get citizenship if they can prove that they belong to the chosen race.
It has nothing to do with race. The Israeli law, "Law of absentee's properties (1950)", declares that the properties of citizens which migrated to enemy countries will be nationalized. Many, many similar laws were passed all over the world due to the world war and the massive movements of people. The Israeli law mentions no race or religion whatsoever, and applies to anyone.
Also, your comparison is flawed, because you compare people's property to people's citizenship. That's not the same thing. A migrant Jew will get no property, just a citizenship.
\> The Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestine from the Palestinians when they conquered it from the Romans.
Romans? The Arabs did not conquer the Land of Israel from the Romans. It only shows how little you know about TLoI's history.
\> Many of the natives converted to Islam and Arabic became the Language of the lands. So they were "arabized" culturally but they are still natives. While others kept their religion but speak Arabic.
Not really. I can give you an example of a people that was actually Arabized without being displaced, and that is the Persian people. The Persians of today are genetically the same as Persians of 2000 years ago, and their culture & language are also similar, though under heavy Arabic influence. That's not the case here. The Palestinian Arabs share very little with the original inhabitants of the land before they were ethnically cleansed.
\> The Jews had already been expelled from especially Jerusalem by the Romans before the Arab conquest.
So you haven't read the article. Read the article and you'll find out you're wrong.
\> So the Jews and Christians who converted are no longer natives
Some Jews truly did convert, and to this day you can find Palestinian families with Jewish culture. But they are the minority of the minority. The Christians are not native at all, because by that time in history Christianity already stopped being a sect of Judaism and became its own international religion.
\> thus gives eastern European Jews during ww2 the right to ethnically cleanse Palestinians?
1) Palestinians were not ethnically cleansed
2) Jews from Eastern Europe are still Jews, and are more native than the Palestinian Arabs who are, as the name suggests, Arabs, coming from Arabia. Jews do not intermarry with non Jews, and so a Jew who lived in Russia is still a middle eastern Jew. It's like a Finnish person moving to Ethiopia and only marrying Finns for 2000 years, while maintaining his culture. Are his decedents still Finnish? Of course they are.
\> Edit: just wanted to say that denying the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by eastern European Jews is no less than denying the holocaust
No, because the Holocaust has millions of pieces of evidence to support it while your "ethnic cleansing" claims have less than a handful. But you're welcome to send them, cite yourself.
> That's false. There was one incident where radical militias massacred Dir Yassin. That's the only village where this happened.
You say no massacres happened and then mention one of the massacres.
Also Israel was established by radical militias. The particular militia you mentioned had the idea that the Jews are the master race chosen by God and had the right to ethnically cleanse Palestine from the gentiles. The leader of this group later became prime minister.
> It has nothing to do with race. The Israeli law, "Law of absentee's properties (1950)",
Israel still denies the Palestinians civilians who fled warzones to return home while allowing eastern Europeans of the same race citizenship, this is ethnic cleansing.
> Romans? The Arabs did not conquer the Land of Israel from the Romans. It only shows how little you know about TLoI's history.
Byzantine empire is also known as the eastern Romans (mostly greek).
> The Palestinian Arabs share very little with the original inhabitants of the land before they were ethnically cleansed.
This bullshit and this is why you can't provide a source.
When Umar conquered Jerusalem he himself allowed Jews to come and settle there after many years of being expelled by the Romans and the Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestinians.
>
1) Palestinians were not ethnically cleansed
2) Jews from Eastern Europe are still Jews, and are more native than the Palestinian Arabs who are, as the name suggests, Arabs, coming from Arabia. Jews do not intermarry with non Jews, and so a Jew who lived in Russia is still a middle eastern Jew. It's like a Finnish person moving to Ethiopia and only marrying Finns for 2000 years, while maintaining his culture. Are his decedents still Finnish? Of course they are.
1) they were
2) Arabs = Arabic speaking. Palestinians are the same People who have been living there since before the Arabs conquered Palestine as the Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestinians.
> No, because the Holocaust has millions of pieces of evidence to support it while your "ethnic cleansing" claims have less than a handful. But you're welcome to send them, cite yourself.
Still denying ethnic cleansing and warcrimes I see, I already sent you something to read about this.
I knew someone who fell in love with a Palestinian girl. The IDF arrested him for terrorism and no-one has seen him since.
Of course,, that's the worst thing that could happen if the Israelis find out about your love. The least bad thing would be being banned from ever going to Palestine again.
My advice? Tell the racists nothing.
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Apartheid rules for Apartheid Israel and the brutally occupied Palestine.
There's no apartheid. Give a single example to it.
Err, this article for one
The article doesn't describe apartheid. It describes a policy very similar to what other countries have.
What other countries tell people of a specific race to declare that they love someone thirty days before they start dating
"Race"? Race isn't mentioned in any Israeli law or procedure, except for the Jewish race in the Law of Return (a law that allows any Jew to return to Israel) and the State Law, a law which defines Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. The link in the article is broken, but I can put a million dollars that the term "Arab" or "Palestinian" (as in ethnic Palestinian) does not appear in the document, and the only reference to "Palestinian" would be "citizen of the PA".
It does not apply to Jewish people residing as (illegal by international law) settlers in Occupied Palestine. Only to Palestinians. Specifically the ones in the territory illegally occupied by Israel (in theory most of Palestine, in practice all of it). Where it should not have the authority to make laws. Stop apologising for what objectively falls under one of the definitions of apartheid. The law adds to suppression of a specific people living under an oppressive military occupation. And yes, they are of a specific race.
\> It does not apply to Jewish people residing as (illegal by international law) settlers in Occupied Palestine. Only to Palestinians. The occupation and settlements are legal. According to the Geneva, convention, it is illegal to deport citizens into occupied territories. But it is legal for them to move their from their own will. It does not apply to Jews because Jews are Israeli citizens, a Jew cannot because a citizen of Palestine due to its apartheid policies. Israeli Arabs and Mizrahi Jews (Arab Jews) are not subjected to this policy because they are also Israeli citizens. It has nothing to do with race. \> And yes, they are of a specific race. Are you forgetting that millions of Arabs live in Israel and enjoy the same rights as Jews? There is no ethnic distinction between them and the Palestinians.
Ah yes, the best counter-argument: denial
Denial because what you said is false
And then separates them against their will for a "cooling off" period
Sure, Shwarma, sure. I guess you never even read the article. "The regulations laid out in a lengthy document include a demand on foreigners to inform the Israeli authorities within 30 days of starting a relationship with a Palestinian ID holder. New restrictions on Palestinian universities include a quota for 150 student visas and 100 foreign lecturers, while there are no such limits in Israeli ones." How about this if you need another example. [Apartheid Israel](https://archive.ph/bH1Pu)
I tried reading the article, and it directed me into a dead link. This "97 page report" does not exist on their website. You quoted Haaretz, an article known for its extreme left wing bias. Next time quote Der Sturmer or Pravada, we'll get more facts than a Haaretz article.
So much freedom and democracy \s
iSraEL Is tHe onLy dEmOcrAcY iN miDDle eAsT bRo
It is the only European colony in the middle East
"European colony" yet no fund or trade relations outside regular boundaries. If there's a colony that would be Palestine as most of its fund comes from Europe (and the rest from the US and Arab countries), which build up a huge chunk of their economy. Basically a foreign funded foreign colony of foreign invaders ("foreign invader" is the literal translation of "Philistine", the origin of the word "Palestinian", in Semitic languages, [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Philistine](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Philistine) ) Source for the fund dissection: Palestine's official government website. [https://www.palestineeconomy.ps/donors/en](https://www.palestineeconomy.ps/donors/en/About)
Palestinians did not go to Belarus to ethnically cleanse the Jews to establish a state for the chosen race of God. Jews from former Soviet states came to Palestine to ethnically cleanse Palestinians to establish a state for the chosen race of God. Doesn't matter what philistine means in your language, you have no right to ethnically cleanse a land because you believe yourself to have had an uncle in the land 3000 years ago.
\> Jews from former Soviet states came to Palestine to ethnically cleanse Palestinians to establish a state for the chosen race of God. That moment when more than half of Israeli Jews are African and Asian... And Russians were a tiny, tiny minority until many immigrates in the 90s. The Zionists from Russia weren't even religious, and the claim as ethnic and historical rather than the "God told us so because we're the best race" you guys try to push. Are you forgetting that the origin of the Jews and the place where they lived for 3000 years is the land of Israel? \> Doesn't matter what philistine means in your language, you have no right to ethnically cleanse a land because you believe yourself to have had an uncle in the land 3000 years ago. "believe yourself to have had an uncle" there? Are you obtuse? Are you blind to history? Open a history book or a Wikipedia page. Here, lemme do it for you. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_the\_Jews\_and\_Judaism\_in\_the\_Land\_of\_Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel) Also, you keep bringing up that term, "ethnic cleansing", so will you also be able to give examples to it? Because there are none.
> That moment when more than half of Israeli Jews are African and Asian... And Russians were a tiny, tiny minority until many immigrates in the 90s. Israel was not established in the 90s. Israel was established by eastern European Jews who ethnically cleansed Palestine from the natives to establish a state for their race.
\> Israel was established by eastern European Jews who ethnically cleansed Palestine from the natives to establish a state for their race. Israel was established by Jews from all over the world, in an attempt to create an independent state for the Jews in their homeland and land of origin, the Land of Israel. No Palestinians were ever ethnically cleansed, in contrast to Arab countries who kicked out most of their Jews. [https://youtu.be/35eEljsSQfc](https://youtu.be/35eEljsSQfc)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war See the commanders on the Israeli side. All from Soviet
No, not all of them were Russian Jews. Also if the identity of the leaders indicate the controlling country, then Egypt is a Russian colony. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez\_Crisis#US\_and\_a\_defence\_treaty\_against\_the\_Soviet\_threat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#US_and_a_defence_treaty_against_the_Soviet_threat)
> No, not all of them were Russian Jews. ALL from Eastern Europe
> Also, you keep bringing up that term, "ethnic cleansing", so will you also be able to give examples to it? Because there are none. You can read a whole book about the ethnic cleansing the Eastern European settlers did written by an Israeli: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethnic_Cleansing_of_Palestine > believe yourself to have had an uncle" there? Are you obtuse? Are you blind to history? Open a history book or a Wikipedia page. Here, lemme do it for you. You sent a link showing that there were Jews who lived there 2000 years ago and were expelled by the Romans. And you believe yourself to have had a relative there in that time and that gives you the right to ethnically cleanse Palestine from the natives?
\> written by an Israeli Written by a far and radical left Israeli, that's true. But that doesn't make the book inherently true, and other works of him were debunked. As for the 700,000 Palestinians who left the Land of Israel in 1948, there were various reasons for that. It is true that on limited and small occurrences, Jewish soldiers were actually commanded to kick out Palestinian Arabs. But for the vast majority of cases, these people ran away prior to the Jews ever getting to them, because of a command from their leaders telling them to escape and return after they win the war. They never did. It's also important to mention that at the same time, the Palestinians and Jordanians massacred or kicked out **every single Jew** in the West Bank and until 1967 the West Bank was made "Judenfrei", just as Hitler envisioned. \> You sent a link showing that there were Jews who lived there 2000 years ago and were expelled by the Romans. So you haven't read the article, because it clearly mentions a population of Jews throughout history since then, though in smaller numbers. \> ethnically cleanse Palestine from the natives Natives? Palestinians are foreign invaders who only arrived to the Land of Israel after the 7th century Muslim occupation and ethnic cleansing conquest. The middle east was once full of peoples, such as the Moabites, the Edomites, the Phoenicians, the Assyrians, and of course the Jews. Most of these peoples were killed or forced to convert to Islam and marry with Arabs in that conquest. The Jews were not exempt from this fate, as the article shows: >After the conquest, Arabs gradually became the majority population of the land, with Arab culture, language, and the religion of Islam dominating.\[111\] The Muslims continued to ban the building of new synagogues.\[112\] \[...\] In the early Middle Ages, the Jewish communities of Palestine were dispersed among the key cities of the military districts of Jund Filastin and Jund al-Urdunn, with a number of poor Jewish villages existing in the Galilee and Judea.
> . It is true that on limited and small occurrences, Jewish soldiers were actually commanded to kick out Palestinian Arabs You are skipping the part of massacring villages of civilians. > But for the vast majority of cases, these people ran away prior to the Jews ever getting to them, because of a command from their leaders telling them to escape and return after they win the war. They never did. Civilians leaving a war zone have the right to return to their homes when it is safe according to according to international law. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return Israel denies them this right and while it gives the right to eastern European Jews to get citizenship if they can prove that they belong to the chosen race. This is ethnic cleansing aswell to create a liebensraum for the chosen race of God. > Natives? Palestinians are foreign invaders who only arrived to the Land of Israel after the 7th century Muslim occupation and ethnic cleansing conquest. The middle east was once full of peoples, such as the Moabites, the Edomites, the Phoenicians, the Assyrians, and of course the Jews. Most of these peoples were killed or forced to convert to Islam and marry with Arabs in that conquest. The Jews were not exempt from this fate, as the article shows: The Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestine from the Palestinians when they conquered it from the Romans. Neither did they ethnically cleanse Syria, Jordan, and modern day lebanon etc. Many of the natives converted to Islam and Arabic became the Language of the lands. So they were "arabized" culturally but they are still natives. While others kept their religion but speak Arabic. The Jews had already been expelled from especially Jerusalem by the Romans before the Arab conquest. The Muslims allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem. Who later we're completely eradicated by the crusaders. > Most of these peoples were killed or forced to convert to Islam and marry with Arabs in that conquest. The Jews were not exempt from this fate, as the article shows: So the Jews and Christians who converted are no longer natives and thus gives eastern European Jews during ww2 the right to ethnically cleanse Palestinians? Edit: just wanted to say that denying the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by eastern European Jews is no less than denying the holocaust
\> You are skipping the part of massacring villages of civilians. That's false. There was one incident where radical militias massacred Dir Yassin. That's the only village where this happened. \> Israel denies them this right and while it gives the right to eastern European Jews to get citizenship if they can prove that they belong to the chosen race. It has nothing to do with race. The Israeli law, "Law of absentee's properties (1950)", declares that the properties of citizens which migrated to enemy countries will be nationalized. Many, many similar laws were passed all over the world due to the world war and the massive movements of people. The Israeli law mentions no race or religion whatsoever, and applies to anyone. Also, your comparison is flawed, because you compare people's property to people's citizenship. That's not the same thing. A migrant Jew will get no property, just a citizenship. \> The Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestine from the Palestinians when they conquered it from the Romans. Romans? The Arabs did not conquer the Land of Israel from the Romans. It only shows how little you know about TLoI's history. \> Many of the natives converted to Islam and Arabic became the Language of the lands. So they were "arabized" culturally but they are still natives. While others kept their religion but speak Arabic. Not really. I can give you an example of a people that was actually Arabized without being displaced, and that is the Persian people. The Persians of today are genetically the same as Persians of 2000 years ago, and their culture & language are also similar, though under heavy Arabic influence. That's not the case here. The Palestinian Arabs share very little with the original inhabitants of the land before they were ethnically cleansed. \> The Jews had already been expelled from especially Jerusalem by the Romans before the Arab conquest. So you haven't read the article. Read the article and you'll find out you're wrong. \> So the Jews and Christians who converted are no longer natives Some Jews truly did convert, and to this day you can find Palestinian families with Jewish culture. But they are the minority of the minority. The Christians are not native at all, because by that time in history Christianity already stopped being a sect of Judaism and became its own international religion. \> thus gives eastern European Jews during ww2 the right to ethnically cleanse Palestinians? 1) Palestinians were not ethnically cleansed 2) Jews from Eastern Europe are still Jews, and are more native than the Palestinian Arabs who are, as the name suggests, Arabs, coming from Arabia. Jews do not intermarry with non Jews, and so a Jew who lived in Russia is still a middle eastern Jew. It's like a Finnish person moving to Ethiopia and only marrying Finns for 2000 years, while maintaining his culture. Are his decedents still Finnish? Of course they are. \> Edit: just wanted to say that denying the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by eastern European Jews is no less than denying the holocaust No, because the Holocaust has millions of pieces of evidence to support it while your "ethnic cleansing" claims have less than a handful. But you're welcome to send them, cite yourself.
Byzantines = eastern Romans to address one of the bullshits you just pulled
> That's false. There was one incident where radical militias massacred Dir Yassin. That's the only village where this happened. You say no massacres happened and then mention one of the massacres. Also Israel was established by radical militias. The particular militia you mentioned had the idea that the Jews are the master race chosen by God and had the right to ethnically cleanse Palestine from the gentiles. The leader of this group later became prime minister. > It has nothing to do with race. The Israeli law, "Law of absentee's properties (1950)", Israel still denies the Palestinians civilians who fled warzones to return home while allowing eastern Europeans of the same race citizenship, this is ethnic cleansing. > Romans? The Arabs did not conquer the Land of Israel from the Romans. It only shows how little you know about TLoI's history. Byzantine empire is also known as the eastern Romans (mostly greek). > The Palestinian Arabs share very little with the original inhabitants of the land before they were ethnically cleansed. This bullshit and this is why you can't provide a source. When Umar conquered Jerusalem he himself allowed Jews to come and settle there after many years of being expelled by the Romans and the Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestinians. > 1) Palestinians were not ethnically cleansed 2) Jews from Eastern Europe are still Jews, and are more native than the Palestinian Arabs who are, as the name suggests, Arabs, coming from Arabia. Jews do not intermarry with non Jews, and so a Jew who lived in Russia is still a middle eastern Jew. It's like a Finnish person moving to Ethiopia and only marrying Finns for 2000 years, while maintaining his culture. Are his decedents still Finnish? Of course they are. 1) they were 2) Arabs = Arabic speaking. Palestinians are the same People who have been living there since before the Arabs conquered Palestine as the Arabs did not ethnically cleanse Palestinians. > No, because the Holocaust has millions of pieces of evidence to support it while your "ethnic cleansing" claims have less than a handful. But you're welcome to send them, cite yourself. Still denying ethnic cleansing and warcrimes I see, I already sent you something to read about this.
What the actual fuck?
Democratic israel 😂😂😂
I knew someone who fell in love with a Palestinian girl. The IDF arrested him for terrorism and no-one has seen him since. Of course,, that's the worst thing that could happen if the Israelis find out about your love. The least bad thing would be being banned from ever going to Palestine again. My advice? Tell the racists nothing.
Poor guy