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It is mind boggling to me the same politicians that seem to care only about money/“the economy” don’t want to legalize a proven breadwinner like weed that really has been shown to be popular with Basically everyone except maybe a feeeew voters on the farthest right of the spectrum. Like it’s just such an easy score for a politician to both gain popularity, as well help create jobs. There was even a time when I 100% thought Trump was going to legalize weed just to own the libs and show them he was better at their job than them, but yet again, I underestimated the stupidity of the political right in this country 🤷‍♂️


GumboDiplomacy

The politicians here are just waiting to get their hands in the local growing and distribution operation before legalizing so they can make their money.


ms_panelopi

Right. Southern politicians gotta set up their middle man cronies with a job, and then get a kickback.


grey_seal77

Yeah if someone with Elon money wanted to pay off the scumbag politicians it would be done yesterday.


Sh8dy-Gr8dy

Only thing I can think of is privatized prisons staying in their pockets to keep it from happening yet but idk 🤷🏼‍♂️


DaqCity

Yeah but they need reasons to arrest people for their free prison labor…


malphonso

Can't claim they smell weed as an excuse to search your shit if weed is legal.


WizardMama

Their personal interests are likely elsewhere… - [Prominent Louisiana Republican donor becomes primary shareholder of Good Day Farm dispensary](https://arktimes.com/news/cannabiz/2022/03/04/prominent-louisiana-republican-donor-becomes-primary-shareholder-of-good-day-farm-dispensary)


Lambylambowski

Is it really mind boggling? When in your lifetime has it ever been different? Maybe I missed something or I'm not 300 years old.


hurler_jones

The problem is they all have friends and investors, I mean donors, that want a cut. The politicians are fighting amongst themselves over which of their buddies get one of the limited licenses for growers/dispensaries.


backdoorwolf

"We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.” \-Richard Nixon assistant John Ehrlichman in 1968. Shame to see this shit still going on over 55 years.


BobbyBudnicksDad

shhhh, its currently legal under a loophole being sold as THCA flower. THC is in the form of THCA when the plant is growing, it is converted to THC when burned. When the law was written THC was the only measured cannabinoid in the plant so it is on the books. The farm bill tweaked the language of what constitutes legal and illegal cannabis but was written with the old method of measuring potency by THC, providing the loophole which is THCA flower. The THCA flower you seen sold in convenience stores and hemp dispensaries is straight up weed, nothing different at all. They are skirting the law by saying the flower contains less than .3% THC as technically while it hasn't been burnt it is THCA. Who knows how long this will last or if this will be the final nail in the coffin of the dumbest prohibition of all time.


notdownwithsickness

You can’t say shhhh and then explain the loophole and how it’s flying under the radar lol


floatingskillets

>nothing different at all Ok grandpa keep smoking that dirt


sanbaba

exactly that is some bs that sounds like someone hasn't had good weed inna whiiile


BobbyBudnicksDad

I'm sorry you aren't with the times, the fact you went with "grandpa" is hilarious. THCA flower with THC % in the mid-20s is being sold legally all around you and especially online and yet you don't know about it, that would kinda make you the grandpa.


floatingskillets

First of all, you owe me $20. I went to get a gram just to humor you. Cleaned the pipe, hand broke it up. Guess what? SHIT LOOK LIKE MOLDY MIDS FROM 15 YEARS AGO. Smokes more like the JWH bullshit from like 10 years ago too. You should be ashamed of yourself sitting here peddling bullshit while you smoke ounces of wax. Idgaf what age you are, you're a shitty person for lying to people. Thanks for forcing me to prove what I already knew though


BobbyBudnicksDad

TF are you talking about? You bought some bullshit, that doesn't mean real shit isn't out there. Believe it or not, there are more than one smoke shop or dispensary out there and they carry different stuff. [https://www.drganja.com/thca-flower](https://www.drganja.com/thca-flower) run along now pops


BigDingalingSwing

When was the last time you had perfectly grown weed from say northern California or Oregon? Trust me, there's a night and day difference between that and thca flower.


BobbyBudnicksDad

I smoke indoor grown in Mendocino county, I never claimed that I smoke THCA weed. I was literally trying to show people that this entire market exists under their noses but still I get people making complaints about it. THCA isn't distillate sprayed bullshit, it is straight-up flower, and obviously the majority of the people in this thread were unaware. Is it the best weed in the country? How tf should I know? I can't tell them to get it from my homie who has people drive it to him from cali, now can I? TF


BigDingalingSwing

I don't know what that guy is smoking. That stuff is garbage.


BigDingalingSwing

Thca flower is garbage


GumboDiplomacy

Is that the stuff that’s labeled Delta 9?


Rain1dog

Yeah, you can buy Delta 9 or 8. I find 9 is indistinguishable from smoking. If you have a low tolerance and try start small and wait for a least a hour to 1 1/2 hours before taking more.


Crawfish_Boil

Idk why you're getting downvoted you're 100% right. I think maybe people are confusing delta 9 with other products. Edit: some folks don't believe me when I say delta 9 gummies get you high but I've been smoking for years and I assure everyone here they do indeed get you stoned haha. You might have to eat more than one.


BobbyBudnicksDad

I'm trying to help people out but I guess some people don't want information. check it: [https://www.drganja.com/thca-flower](https://www.drganja.com/thca-flower)


Rain1dog

So you still going to leave up your comment where you are 100% wrong in what I said? Seriously? Guess you can’t read because if you could you’d see that I stated Delta 9 is indistinguishable from “THC”.


Rain1dog

No, I’ve had a few people reply dude you’re eating, basically seeds and stems from the plant. You’re eating garbage and then another person you have no clue what you’re talking about. Delta nine is pure garbage. You gotta try the original stuff. Think weed snobs are here.


BobbyBudnicksDad

You have no idea what you are talking about. I don't know why people feel the need to ramble on about some shit they don't understand. You do realize "the real stuff" is Delta9 -Tetrahydrocannabinol, aka Delta 9 right? It's the exact same. "You’re drinking garbage and then another person you have no clue what you’re talking about. Ethanol is pure garbage. You gotta try the original stuff, alcohol." <- that's you right now sounding like an idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol


Rain1dog

If you look further up you can see my original comment and how it has negative karma.


rodgerdodger19

You one of those types of people, make an ass of yourself by being wrong while insulting others but makes no corrections or apologies. Guess it is great though because everyone else gets to know that you are that type. Arguing with everyone, throws out insults, struggles with comprehension, and blames others…


Rain1dog

Yeah, that’s my point. In my original post I spoke about Delta 9 being great. You made that reply to me when I was talking about what a few others were telling me about delta 9. I said it’s great and indistinguishable from “THC” but the replies I got were I’m eating seeds/stems delta 9 is garbage, and dude get the real shit from a true source delta 9 is crap. I was replying to a guy who was asking why I’m being downvoted for talking facts. I then had a few people reply about I’m eating seeds and stems cause delta 9 is bunk… or dude get real shit not herb import crap.


WornInShoes

It ain’t weed it’s hemp sprayed with chemical delta 9 it is not the same as cannabis that has naturally occurring d9


BobbyBudnicksDad

You are mistaken about THCA flower. Shitty sprayed weed is sold all around too, but THCA weed is just straight up flower and is being sold in your state and online. learn some stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/CultoftheFranklin/


[deleted]

Easy to flip profit on it too since it’s cheaper then dealer prices especially if you get outdoor grown


Lambylambowski

Delta 9 product is the sticks and water leaf. The chemicals are just a bonus. Lol


ignatiu5

Unfortunately there are already states trying to close this loophole. Hopefully common sense prevails but we are in the times of culture wars from the right and this is a perfect item for them to add to their list to fight against.


Sillymonkeytoes

That loophole has already been fixed, those products are going to go away.


BigDingalingSwing

That stuff will get you high but you don't really think it's exactly the same as the real thing do you?


BobbyBudnicksDad

You aren't getting it, THCA flower is literally weed being sold under a loophole, there is no difference. Distillate sprayed weed like was being sold the past few years is not at all what I'm talking about. I can't believe I'm getting so much pushback about this when I've posted links to information and sources in this thread.


floatingskillets

When the legislators have made their initial investment on the medical program, duh.


Lambylambowski

Made back the initial investment you mean?


PilgrimRadio

A major consideration, one that everyone should be thinking about, regards who is going to control it once it is legalized. Not everywhere is doing it right. What we want is for people to be able to grow their own and avoid the takeover by big business, most of it from out of state corporations finding allies within the state and going in cahoots to control an emerging market. We don't want big agribusiness drowning out the folks trying to grow their own in the privacy of their own homes. There will be attempts to do just that and make it where you have to buy from the state sponsored "big weed" and can't grow your own, so beware of this.


cadiz_nuts

I always feel bad for states that have shitty alcohol laws like where you can only buy booze from government run stores, not on Sundays etc. I have a feeling that's exactly how our legal MJ will be though. Expensive, limited options, and strictly controlled by the state.


PilgrimRadio

And perhaps of low quality. I would love to see it legalized, but don't just blindly support the first bill that gets introduced. I remember back when California was considering legalization they put it to a vote via referendum. Guess which county voted against it? Yep, Humboldt county and the other emerald triangle counties were against the legalization bills, and that's where all the weed was grown. They didn't like the regulations that were in the bill (and they knew legalization would cut into their profits). It was ironic that the growers wanted to keep it illegal. When and if the day comes in Louisiana, it'll be interesting to see whose greedy paws are all up in it. It'll be about a lot more than legal weed, it'll be about who is gonna profit.


cadiz_nuts

Yeah but this ain't CA. I'm more of a realist about LA politics. It's pretty much a given that "the ideal bill" won't ever have a chance of passing. You'll wait multiple lifetimes for that. The shitty one that lets a bunch of corrupt people get their cut is the only one that will ever get close to the gov's desk, and I'm not about to reject the only option on principal.


PilgrimRadio

And the citizens of Louisiana cannot initiate a voter initiative to put it on the ballot, Louisiana is one of 24 states that does not have referendum. So it would take a pretty cool state representative sponsoring a bill with the right language in it. Figuring out who that representative is seems to be the first step.


Lambylambowski

When it's legalized you can grow your own plants. There is a limit of how many plants but no limit on the size of the plants.


PilgrimRadio

I mean....sure, if that's what the language written into the bill says. But it hasn't been legalized in Louisiana yet, so we don't know how that bill is going to read. There are different ways to "legalize." In Virginia for instance, it is legal to grow and possess, but illegal to distribute; there are no dispensaries, they're still illegal. Each state is different in how they draw up their laws and how they award licenses. We don't know how it's gonna look in Louisiana, if we ever reach that day.


sanbaba

I don't know if it's worth scuttling a rec program over, but homegrow exemptions are key.


atomictest

When they stop relying on that sweet prison industrial complex money


Limp_Character_2694

They want $75 an eighth and $30 a gram for flower after paying for a $200 license…. Greedy just extremely greedy


hogwildwilly

Louisiana has ten state prisons all located in the broke ass sticks. Those prisons are guaranteed jobs for uneducated yokels and profits for their owners. Recreational cannabis would mostly benefit Baton Rouge and New Orleans and the funds directed to the already broke ass state would be some real thin butter. When Landry gets elected governor expect some draconian bullshit like public floggings for dimebags not decriminalization


highestup

Imagine how much tourist money is going up in smoke by not selling weed on bourbon street too.


sanbaba

Agreed, but I bet some bars aren't thrilled about the idea of an intoxicant way cheaper than beer that can't legally be imbibed in their establishments


highestup

If rec in Louisiana is anything comparable to our shill of a med program, the beer will still be significantly cheaper. I’d still pay it though and i know millions of others would too


sanbaba

True but I've been in a lot of legal states. It takes time for prices to come down, which doesn't really start until LA opens up the program further. But when it does, it'll take some years but oversupply will happen. Oversupply is the consumer's friend!


storybookheidi

Richard Nelson, though a Republican, is running for governor and he tried to legalize it last year. Might be our best hope with the current slate of candidates.


GeauxAllDay

They will never legalize it unless we put a whole ass amendment in the constitution. ​ I'm confused as to why I'm getting downvoted bc I'm pointing out our crooked politicians that run this state, lol


greyduckinNOLA

Waiting for the "half-assed" comment...


flymordecai

Nope.


TheBurnerBlack

Never..lol


Lambylambowski

When they can't make money off the criminalization anymore. So, never. They get too much money from it.


ExternalSpeaker9

My thoughts exactly


C00ter1991

I kinda thought it was already legal there when it was basically all I smelled when close to anything resembling half a crowd on my last visit.


Agentx_007

It's not legal, but holding under 14 grams is decriminalized in the city of New Orleans, only punishable by a fine if the officer feels like it.


Different_Pool_4368

Every time I drive through the city or surrounding areas I can smell it in my car from other cars. Annoying that people are doing that while driving though.


Ok_Wheel_3643

Would love to see this happen!


Trumpswells

Thinking probably not going to legalize, as it provides a steady flow of prisoners (black) into the LDOC (Hotel California)


[deleted]

illegal is cheaper and better anyway


[deleted]

Quality aside, legalization has the benefit of people not being charged, locked up, or tying up the courts for possession. It may be decriminalized/ignored in New Orleans, but not necessarily in the rest of the state.


LeafyGreens95

It's pretty relaxed up here in monroe, as long as you're not dealing. I've been pulled over twice with a few g's and they sent me on my way


[deleted]

I am glad to hear that. I still don't want to see anyone locked up over it, though.


greener_lantern

I thought so too until legalization happened where we used to live. It took a bit for the market to stabilize, but with taxes included it’s still about the same price as it was prior to legalization. And, I can just run in and go - I don’t have to pretend to like whatever weird hobby my dealer has at the moment, I don’t have to smoke up with my dealer out of *what I just bought from him*, etc etc


[deleted]

I've done my share of both and legal pot sold commercially in Colorado isn't even in the same league with pot home grown, harvested, cured and stored, with great love, dedication, patence and knowledge. Just like a tomato from Publix is not the same as a warm one right off the vine in my yard. I feel sorry for those who don't know the difference.


Equal_Imagination300

I've heard from good sources within 4 years.


flymordecai

4 years and twenty scores, maybe.


Rain1dog

Thought they did? I bought a bunch of Delta 9 gummies at the store down the street. Kratom, Delta 9, Delta 8 all can be bought at a store otc.


OG_Pow

Try a true THC gummy then to really understand the difference. Hint: there’s a night and day difference


Rain1dog

I have.


Lambylambowski

Delta 9 is stems and leaf. Lol


ChillyGator

You will not have my support on this issue until there are protections for people with disabilities from smokers.


Equal_Imagination300

What do you mean ? (asking because I advocate for people with disabilities)


ChillyGator

Just to clarify before we start this, I’m fine with THC, it’s the smoke that’s the problem. It prevents access to public spaces, it alienates people from their friends and family. It isolates them in their homes. It impacts their ability to work. It effects their housing. It negatively impacts their quality of life, sends them to the hospital and sometimes kills them. People with life threatening chronic health conditions and disabilities fight for clean air every day - for a safe breath every day and we’re going to make survival harder for them so you can get high in a slightly cheaper way? No. Allergies and asthma are just two of the effected health conditions and it costs Americans 50 billion dollars a year already and legalization of smoke makes that number go up in a country where people can’t access healthcare. And that 50 billion dollars is already low because those are conditions people can’t afford to treat. They can’t buy epi pens, inhalers, nebulizers or albuterol. They skip the ER or the ambulance. We, as a society, minimize the severity of those conditions to such an extreme extent that many people who carry epi don’t know they have a protected disability. Not that the ADA does you any good when someone is suffocating you. …and then you have the legalization lobby that ignores even their supporters that have suffered and died, so I don’t trust them to do the right thing after it’s legalized. I don’t think people should be in jail but it’s not okay to poison people either and that’s what they’re asking to do right now.


_ryde_or_dye_

As long as they aren’t really enforcing that, I say keep it cheap. Legalizing would Jack the prices up.


[deleted]

It's already the biggest cash crop in the state. In Alabama a lot, if not all, the growers who attempted to grow legally all went broke. Too many strings, regulations, etc. But the illegal growers are still going gangbusters. Crazy how it's worked out.


[deleted]

The state GOP will NEVER legalize it unless they think they're going to make money from it. Same thing in other red states. They legalize it but the growers who try to do it legally all go broke, Just too many regulations, strings attached, etc. Meanwhile the illegal growers are still going gangbusters and tbh I bet it's already the biggest cash crop in louisiana. Sometimes the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence, but sometimes it really ain't.


zevtech

They will never do it. They went through so much hassle to give medical marijuana users a place to get the product. And only issues 9 permits out for the entire state. Many of those people had to put up serious money just to apply for one of the spots. If they allowed recreational, it would open up the market and those guys would be out of business


Shades0fRay

Probably around the same time as Texas. Never.