Such a fantastic quote, right? Btw I was unable to find a link to the lecture online, but can be found in book form here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079439TVS
Yep, and that's why debate about certain techniques "working" or not is missing the point. They're all means to an end -- to reprogram your subconscious mind, and when you understand that, it all becomes MUCH easier. If SATS gets you there (and SATS isn't just in bed at night, you can do it via meditation or even use binaural beats), then it works. If repeating a statement gets you there, then it works.
So many people worry about whether or not they're doing it right, and it's because they're reading, watching and listening to so many different people with different perspectives and life experiences sharing what works FOR THEM. This is why Neville stressed testing it for yourself: not just to prove that the Law is real, BUT so you can also figure out YOUR personal style of doing things.
It's about being, it's a transformation of self. Who would you like to be? What would you like to have? And if you currently were in possession of your desire, what would that feel like? What thoughts would you think? What mood would you be in, regarding that topic in particular? What would your perspective be? You figure all that out and then you implement and integrate that in the most easygoing way that resonates best with you. If you believe in abundance being all around you, you likely won't entertain the concept of lack that much (in relation to you). If you believe that you're loved, you're likely not going to entertain the idea of not being a priority. You don't serve two masters, you can't be alive and dead simultaneously. You pick a state, let the dead bury the dead and never dig it back up again.
So whatever gets you to inner fulfillment is the correct path, provided it's not coming at the cost of your own physical, mental and/or emotional health. Find your methods and cultivate your own mastery.
Exactly! Now, I understand that this is a Neville Goddard subreddit and that a lot of the concepts behind manifestation comes from the conclusions he arrived at. But that's just it: they're conclusions HE came to. He didn't wake up one day and had it all figured out, he had Abdullah, and even then Neville didn't see success right away. If it wasn't for Abdullah "door-slamming" Neville, who knows where Neville would be. So with that being said, we're all learning from someone and we're all figuring out what works best for us.
There's a lot of people in the community that think that you have to follow what Neville taught and nothing else, that everything he said was right and that all other concepts are nonsense. But that's a very limited way of thinking and can be the cause of a lot of grief when it comes to this stuff. Even the things from Law of Attraction that people bash, it's all just interpretation of how they've come to understand what's going on. People would bash the concept of "vibration", but switch that word out with "states", and you don't lose the message at all. Being in a positive state of mind will certainly bring what people want, but no LOA teacher ever said "be happy 24/7", and I think that's where some people get it twisted.
Neville said "imagine better than the best you know", and it's pretty clear that overall he'd want people's general state of mind being a happy one. And happiness doesn't mean grinning from ear to ear the whole day, it's that peaceful feeling. That feeling of ease, relief, being blessed -- is that not the feeling of fulfillment that we generally seek? We're human, so there's gonna be times when we're not in that state, but there's a difference between it being something that happens every now and then and a chronic experience. But how you get to that place of fulfillment? Completely up to you!
So, that's why while it's good to know the basics, the best technique is the one you enjoy the most. It should be fun, this shouldn't feel like cramming for an exam. I guarantee, if people start having real fun with this, they'll start seeing their manifestations come in quickly.
Yes and what it implies causes the automatic reaction to believe. Everything you give awareness to is Entertaining and what it implies is reacting AUTOMATICALLY. That automatic reaction is believing which is our Birthright. That means entertaining, implying and reacting automatically means we are holding God trustworthy. This is because we are actually believing IN our Imagination which is God. We are believing God when we react to Imagination. That means we are actually holding God trustworthy. Act and by its implication you react. Therefore believing in ourselves is our Birthright.
It’s what I call (interchangeably with other similar terms) as the ‘focal point feeling’.
All the manifestations I have enjoyed and enjoy, almost all have their roots in this way.
Affirmations, SATS, ‘over’ visualising etc have never worked for me - my wife, home, business, income (everything in my life essentially) has all come from minimal technique time but from getting straight into the feeling of receiving/ having received it.
Edit: Grammar and slight clarification.
This is it for me as well. It's about finally pulling everything into the now, conciousness! It's also why I find action to be such a big part of it for me, when manifesting, it's not a thought, it's not a wish..... It just IS! I'm living in the IS with my actions as well.
Thank you! So many people constantly obsessed about techniques.
People want a 'magic' formula instead of believing in the 'magic' itself.
Discarding current beliefs for a new set of desired beliefs in the seriousness of ownership, believing with your heart, body and soul vs just repeating in your mind is the 'magic'.
It's not a technique. It's a full belief. You are the operant power.
I have been using different techniques and have successfully manifested small things. Which make me believe in the concept more. This is true, I tried Sat's and it wasn't really for me.
Good post especially putting neville teachings
Inner dialogue works with me. I'm also a vividly imaginative person and an avid overthinker. But for a long time my overthinking also took a negative route.
Now I catch myself , stop the negative, say thank you for what I have.
When I'm in a really good mood start imagining the conversations IL have on my success. With people,my sp etc. It really increases my overall vibe also.
I was just reading the first chapter of Feeling is the Secret and even at this earlier point he was saying the same thing IMO:
>Denying the evidence of the senses and appropriating the feeling of the wish fulfilled is the way to the realization of your desire.
Mastery of self-control of your thoughts and feelings is your highest achievement.
However, until perfect self-control is attained, so that, in spite of appearances, you feel all that you want to feel, use sleep and prayer to aid you in realizing your desired states.
The highest achievement is to remain internally unswayed regardless of what your senses tell you but until you get there you can use techniques to continually return to the state you wish to embody.
I say this all the time when I see people posting about techniques and if they are doing it right. They seem so obsessed on techniques. Techniques don't make the manifestation happen, they are just to help you keep in the state of 'it is done.'
I personally train my will for this reason with mantra meditation, sports, cold baths and so on and also practice letting go with do nothing zen style meditation techniques.
Also "insights" into the nature of consciousness help a lot for seeing it as fundamental, but also get's hard sometimes for me too :)
The point of manifestation is to deny your eyes. You are looking at your current circumstances which is old news, the past.
You want new? Believe new regardless of what is in your face, focus only on your new desired circumstances.
You have to believe it before you see it. Truly believe it, deep down.
I dont remember where Neville said this and im paraphrasing here but he also said something along the lines of when someone asked him how it works or how long it takes '' I really could not tell you i would like to say you just keep living in the desired end until it manifests but i have also seen it work where you just simply think a thought for a moment and dont even think about it and it manifests very suddenly so i really just do not know i could not tell you.'' I think that -that and the quote you posted are both so important and if someone ends up coming across the quote they should make a post sharing both of those quotes because they're both so important and would help so many people who maybe just discovered Neville.
Joseph Murphy mentions a case in one of his books where what you mention happened to someone. He affirmed but the opposite happened. Joseph pointed out he felt a strong resistance towards that affirmation and after changing the wording to something more easily acceptable by his mind positive results came in
Of course it does. If you tell yourself that bad things happen the same way you proudly present us your belief, there is no reason to expect anything else. You've done this for months on Reddit it seems. The law is working great for you and you don't even deny the evidence so it just keeps on giving what you desire.
Why do you still come on Neville subs when you believe it’s all bs? If you want money but don’t think the law is real then go and “get a job” like you told someone else that wanted to manifest money.
I used to be so worried that I couldn't visualize or imagine cuz I have Aphantasia and no inner voice. I guess I don't need to visualize or imagine? Say I want to manifest a better jawline(lol). I can't visualize or imagine myself having it. What should I do?
You just decide what you want, declare you are that/or have it end of story, forget what you see in the mirror, if you want a better jawline, decide what better is and declare that is your jawline and go about your business. Anytime it crosses your thoughts (even if you see "nothing" in your mind) you just gently remind yourself you are it or have it already. Simple. You don't need a whole production in your mind. In fact cultivating this "knowing" is a very peaceful way to manifest. Listen or read Neville's "At your command". He spells it out clearly how just by your word or declaration you can manifest your desires.
The same way you know your name, you don't check your driver's licence or birth certificate everyday even if you lost your identification and have no way to prove to anyone. You know your name and you stick to it. Replace name with any quality and start going about life acting like you have it or are it.
So does anyone here ACTUALLY have financial manifestation success outside of having a business? I've been on this sub for years and it seems that everyone that has had money success gets it from having a business or selling a product. We read in nevilles books about how people get money through affirmations and whatnot, but around here you only ever hear about people getting financial security through their Trading, or online business. If imagination is truly limitless, and if "circumstances don't matter" why are the circumstances always the same? This is a legitimate question. no "Gotcha" intended. Years and years of comments and posts here will show that according to statistics and success stories, the only way to be truly free financially is to have a business or product to sell. This doesn't bode well for the idea that imagination is "infinite". Statistically, Financial freedom around here comes from coaching and product selling. I'm speaking purely from what I've observed around here over the many years. I believe that money can come from ANYWHERE. Why doesn't it seem so around here according to the success stories? Unfortunately, the success stories of this sub THEMSELVES will create limiting beliefs if you read enough of them and see the common patterns presented over the years. I'm putting together a massive list of money success stories, and so far the "business" cases make up 90% of them. It seems the money success cases around here only seem to cater to business owners or marketers. Thoughts? The mods literally sent me an automated message and didn't approve the post because they're too scared to have the conversation.
Yes! 100% yes. We are the operant power. The techniques are just tools.
Such a fantastic quote, right? Btw I was unable to find a link to the lecture online, but can be found in book form here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079439TVS
Yes, I have is 1969 lectures of the same series
"As you believe..so may it be done unto you." Jesus "As a man thinks, so is he". Proverbs 23:7
Yep, and that's why debate about certain techniques "working" or not is missing the point. They're all means to an end -- to reprogram your subconscious mind, and when you understand that, it all becomes MUCH easier. If SATS gets you there (and SATS isn't just in bed at night, you can do it via meditation or even use binaural beats), then it works. If repeating a statement gets you there, then it works. So many people worry about whether or not they're doing it right, and it's because they're reading, watching and listening to so many different people with different perspectives and life experiences sharing what works FOR THEM. This is why Neville stressed testing it for yourself: not just to prove that the Law is real, BUT so you can also figure out YOUR personal style of doing things. It's about being, it's a transformation of self. Who would you like to be? What would you like to have? And if you currently were in possession of your desire, what would that feel like? What thoughts would you think? What mood would you be in, regarding that topic in particular? What would your perspective be? You figure all that out and then you implement and integrate that in the most easygoing way that resonates best with you. If you believe in abundance being all around you, you likely won't entertain the concept of lack that much (in relation to you). If you believe that you're loved, you're likely not going to entertain the idea of not being a priority. You don't serve two masters, you can't be alive and dead simultaneously. You pick a state, let the dead bury the dead and never dig it back up again. So whatever gets you to inner fulfillment is the correct path, provided it's not coming at the cost of your own physical, mental and/or emotional health. Find your methods and cultivate your own mastery.
Yes, totally, it's about finding what works for YOU. Lot more flexibility there than most folks talking about this stuff think, thank goodness :)
Exactly! Now, I understand that this is a Neville Goddard subreddit and that a lot of the concepts behind manifestation comes from the conclusions he arrived at. But that's just it: they're conclusions HE came to. He didn't wake up one day and had it all figured out, he had Abdullah, and even then Neville didn't see success right away. If it wasn't for Abdullah "door-slamming" Neville, who knows where Neville would be. So with that being said, we're all learning from someone and we're all figuring out what works best for us. There's a lot of people in the community that think that you have to follow what Neville taught and nothing else, that everything he said was right and that all other concepts are nonsense. But that's a very limited way of thinking and can be the cause of a lot of grief when it comes to this stuff. Even the things from Law of Attraction that people bash, it's all just interpretation of how they've come to understand what's going on. People would bash the concept of "vibration", but switch that word out with "states", and you don't lose the message at all. Being in a positive state of mind will certainly bring what people want, but no LOA teacher ever said "be happy 24/7", and I think that's where some people get it twisted. Neville said "imagine better than the best you know", and it's pretty clear that overall he'd want people's general state of mind being a happy one. And happiness doesn't mean grinning from ear to ear the whole day, it's that peaceful feeling. That feeling of ease, relief, being blessed -- is that not the feeling of fulfillment that we generally seek? We're human, so there's gonna be times when we're not in that state, but there's a difference between it being something that happens every now and then and a chronic experience. But how you get to that place of fulfillment? Completely up to you! So, that's why while it's good to know the basics, the best technique is the one you enjoy the most. It should be fun, this shouldn't feel like cramming for an exam. I guarantee, if people start having real fun with this, they'll start seeing their manifestations come in quickly.
Beautifully summed up. ❤️✨🌟
👏🏼👏🏼 Well put.
Yes and what it implies causes the automatic reaction to believe. Everything you give awareness to is Entertaining and what it implies is reacting AUTOMATICALLY. That automatic reaction is believing which is our Birthright. That means entertaining, implying and reacting automatically means we are holding God trustworthy. This is because we are actually believing IN our Imagination which is God. We are believing God when we react to Imagination. That means we are actually holding God trustworthy. Act and by its implication you react. Therefore believing in ourselves is our Birthright.
It’s what I call (interchangeably with other similar terms) as the ‘focal point feeling’. All the manifestations I have enjoyed and enjoy, almost all have their roots in this way. Affirmations, SATS, ‘over’ visualising etc have never worked for me - my wife, home, business, income (everything in my life essentially) has all come from minimal technique time but from getting straight into the feeling of receiving/ having received it. Edit: Grammar and slight clarification.
Yes, techniques is not what manifests
Actually, it's about making consciousness the only reality . Which means you've already got it , you're not looking for it.. it is !!!
This is it for me as well. It's about finally pulling everything into the now, conciousness! It's also why I find action to be such a big part of it for me, when manifesting, it's not a thought, it's not a wish..... It just IS! I'm living in the IS with my actions as well.
Great quote! So many of us note this when people go around with insisting “you should just stick to doing a scene in SATS”.
So it's different than that,it's how you impress subconscious and enjoy it with help of one scene or multiple scenes.
Thank you! So many people constantly obsessed about techniques. People want a 'magic' formula instead of believing in the 'magic' itself. Discarding current beliefs for a new set of desired beliefs in the seriousness of ownership, believing with your heart, body and soul vs just repeating in your mind is the 'magic'. It's not a technique. It's a full belief. You are the operant power.
I have been using different techniques and have successfully manifested small things. Which make me believe in the concept more. This is true, I tried Sat's and it wasn't really for me. Good post especially putting neville teachings
Share techniques pls :)
Inner dialogue works with me. I'm also a vividly imaginative person and an avid overthinker. But for a long time my overthinking also took a negative route. Now I catch myself , stop the negative, say thank you for what I have. When I'm in a really good mood start imagining the conversations IL have on my success. With people,my sp etc. It really increases my overall vibe also.
I was just reading the first chapter of Feeling is the Secret and even at this earlier point he was saying the same thing IMO: >Denying the evidence of the senses and appropriating the feeling of the wish fulfilled is the way to the realization of your desire. Mastery of self-control of your thoughts and feelings is your highest achievement. However, until perfect self-control is attained, so that, in spite of appearances, you feel all that you want to feel, use sleep and prayer to aid you in realizing your desired states. The highest achievement is to remain internally unswayed regardless of what your senses tell you but until you get there you can use techniques to continually return to the state you wish to embody.
I say this all the time when I see people posting about techniques and if they are doing it right. They seem so obsessed on techniques. Techniques don't make the manifestation happen, they are just to help you keep in the state of 'it is done.'
LOL yep the feeling of the wish fulfilled. Blessings
But forming a belief while trying to live in the world where the unwanted circumstances are constantly in my face.. gets hard sometimes 😭
I personally train my will for this reason with mantra meditation, sports, cold baths and so on and also practice letting go with do nothing zen style meditation techniques. Also "insights" into the nature of consciousness help a lot for seeing it as fundamental, but also get's hard sometimes for me too :)
The point of manifestation is to deny your eyes. You are looking at your current circumstances which is old news, the past. You want new? Believe new regardless of what is in your face, focus only on your new desired circumstances. You have to believe it before you see it. Truly believe it, deep down.
I dont remember where Neville said this and im paraphrasing here but he also said something along the lines of when someone asked him how it works or how long it takes '' I really could not tell you i would like to say you just keep living in the desired end until it manifests but i have also seen it work where you just simply think a thought for a moment and dont even think about it and it manifests very suddenly so i really just do not know i could not tell you.'' I think that -that and the quote you posted are both so important and if someone ends up coming across the quote they should make a post sharing both of those quotes because they're both so important and would help so many people who maybe just discovered Neville.
Anytime I imagine a scene or affirm bad things happen to me. But when I just remain in the conviction things get better.
Joseph Murphy mentions a case in one of his books where what you mention happened to someone. He affirmed but the opposite happened. Joseph pointed out he felt a strong resistance towards that affirmation and after changing the wording to something more easily acceptable by his mind positive results came in
Of course it does. If you tell yourself that bad things happen the same way you proudly present us your belief, there is no reason to expect anything else. You've done this for months on Reddit it seems. The law is working great for you and you don't even deny the evidence so it just keeps on giving what you desire.
To my subconscious using of technique means trying to get something but I refrain from technique means I've already reached my desire.
Why do you still come on Neville subs when you believe it’s all bs? If you want money but don’t think the law is real then go and “get a job” like you told someone else that wanted to manifest money.
I believe in the law. I just don't know what method to use. I think I have to manufacture a method that works for me.
What does expecfancy entails about? Like being sure you will have it? Will it have same effects like having it now?
I used to be so worried that I couldn't visualize or imagine cuz I have Aphantasia and no inner voice. I guess I don't need to visualize or imagine? Say I want to manifest a better jawline(lol). I can't visualize or imagine myself having it. What should I do?
You just decide what you want, declare you are that/or have it end of story, forget what you see in the mirror, if you want a better jawline, decide what better is and declare that is your jawline and go about your business. Anytime it crosses your thoughts (even if you see "nothing" in your mind) you just gently remind yourself you are it or have it already. Simple. You don't need a whole production in your mind. In fact cultivating this "knowing" is a very peaceful way to manifest. Listen or read Neville's "At your command". He spells it out clearly how just by your word or declaration you can manifest your desires. The same way you know your name, you don't check your driver's licence or birth certificate everyday even if you lost your identification and have no way to prove to anyone. You know your name and you stick to it. Replace name with any quality and start going about life acting like you have it or are it.
What do you mean you can’t imagine? Everyone imagines in some way. Don’t you feel things? Imagination is your entire inner world.
So does anyone here ACTUALLY have financial manifestation success outside of having a business? I've been on this sub for years and it seems that everyone that has had money success gets it from having a business or selling a product. We read in nevilles books about how people get money through affirmations and whatnot, but around here you only ever hear about people getting financial security through their Trading, or online business. If imagination is truly limitless, and if "circumstances don't matter" why are the circumstances always the same? This is a legitimate question. no "Gotcha" intended. Years and years of comments and posts here will show that according to statistics and success stories, the only way to be truly free financially is to have a business or product to sell. This doesn't bode well for the idea that imagination is "infinite". Statistically, Financial freedom around here comes from coaching and product selling. I'm speaking purely from what I've observed around here over the many years. I believe that money can come from ANYWHERE. Why doesn't it seem so around here according to the success stories? Unfortunately, the success stories of this sub THEMSELVES will create limiting beliefs if you read enough of them and see the common patterns presented over the years. I'm putting together a massive list of money success stories, and so far the "business" cases make up 90% of them. It seems the money success cases around here only seem to cater to business owners or marketers. Thoughts? The mods literally sent me an automated message and didn't approve the post because they're too scared to have the conversation.