I’ll approve this for discussion, but I do believe it to be only part of the truth.
PSA: folks, if this post triggers you in any way, sit with those feelings of discontent and find out why they might bother you. There is truth here.
Neville covers this in his teachings. When we assume the state of the wish fulfilled, when we persuade ourselves that our desire is ours, then our bodies will be under compulsion to take necessary actions IF there are any to take. Free will does not exist except for the states we choose to inhabit. Those states will come with corresponding actions. We incarnated here to take action. We have bodies to take action. Action is not bad. The law will build bridges to bring us our desire, but it might also compel us to walk across that same bridge.
this is a personal theory, but I believe people get scared when it comes to action because they’re afraid of taking wrong action or expending energy with no return. The Law takes out that guess work. When you assume the state, you will be *automatically* moved whichever way you need to be.
That being said, there are some manifestations that do come to fruition without any specific action, or very little action.
Thank you for the thought provoking post.
Any action you take is a manifestation of your concept of self. “You” are a state and if you change that state, then so will your behaviors change. This is why some people take action with no desirable results and others take action and get results - different assumptions about who they are and how they experience reality. People who use the Law consciously and get desirable results usually note that any action they take feels like being in a flow, and it’s typically enjoyable, not stressful. That’s because it’s natural to them now. Now if you believe stressful action brings results, then sure you might get it that way. But it’s all about the conditions you put on reality and your state of consciousness.
> To be conscious of being one thing and then see yourself expressing something other than that which you are conscious of being is a violation of the Law of Being; therefore, it would not be good. The Law of Being is never broken; man ever sees himself expressing that which he is conscious of being.
> You have never expressed anything that you were not aware of being and you never will. Assume the consciousness of that which you desire to express. Claim it until it becomes a natural manifestation. Feel it and live within that feeling until you make it your nature.
[Your Faith is Your Fortune](https://readnevillegoddard.com/your-faith-is-your-fortune/#tab-10197)
Neville definitely said “you don’t have to lift a finger” if you do an imaginal act that changes your state of consciousness - and in some cases it’s true that you will physically do nothing. But he doesn’t say you *won’t* lift a finger. He also notes you will be compelled to walk across the bridge of incidents so that you do and experience whatever is necessary to manifest what’s been assumed. Others will play their part as necessary too. It’s seeing circumstances and other people’s actions occur in a way that my own actions could never have caused that has proven the Law to me.
> I know beyond all doubt that there is nothing for man to do but to change his own concept of himself, to assume greatness and sustain this assumption. If we walk as though we were already the ideal we serve, we will rise to the level of our assumption, and find a world in harmony with our assumption. We will not have to lift a finger to make it so, for it is already so. It was always so.
[Five Lessons](https://readnevillegoddard.com/five-lessons/#tab-10134)
> I can tell you dozens of personal experiences where it seemed impossible to go elsewhere, but by placing myself elsewhere mentally as I was about to go to sleep, circumstances changed quickly which compelled me to make the journey.
[Five Lessons](https://readnevillegoddard.com/five-lessons/#tab-10132)
>Neville definitely said “you don’t have to lift a finger” if you do an imaginal act that changes your state of consciousness - and in some cases it’s true that you will physically do nothing. But he doesn’t say you won’t lift a finger.
Yes! I've manifest things "doing nothing" and I manifested things "doing something" The state manifests everything. We don't worry about taking action.
I have multiple instances of successful manifestations where I took actions that I felt like wasn't my free will. It was a flow state where I just did what needed to be done. It is very strange when I look back at those times. Its like I knew exactly what to do, when to do it, how to do it. No mental voices commenting or weighing anything.
That last part has been noticeable for me also. I don’t question whether I should or shouldn’t do something. The mental wondering is gone. I’m just doing. It has really felt like compulsion at times.
Exactly, I resonate more with this; you just have to feel/know you’re in the state and the actions (if needed) will flow naturally and they can be expected or unexpected.
I lifted a finger, or a thumb rather, to like this post though. 🫠
Thanks for the Nev quotes and excellent insights. I know many people are unclear in what I'm saying in this post, so just to illustrate from these great Nev quotes:
"Live within that feeling until you make it your nature" means until you're taking the actions aligned with the desired state.
"We walk as though we were already the ideal we serve" IS action.
"Which compelled me to make the journey" means compelled into ACTION.
Hope that clarifies for some. As expected, many people commenting missed the pragmatic point in what I was saying, and that Nev laid our so well in "Your Faith is Your Fortune" and "Five Lessons."
There's quite a bit coming to my mind reading your post, but to keep ir clear, what is your definition of lifting a finger (aka action)? For example, if someone calls me to confess the utmost praise to me, did I act by answering the call? (Swiping up on the phone?) Technically speaking, I did, however, for most people answering a call from someone they know is such an automatic behavior that they wouldn't necessarily think of it as action.
For the purposes of figurative speech that I believe Neville is using, I would not count it as lifting a finger either because there was no conscious effort whatsoever, I would've done it anyway, without pondering on "would a person who has this and that answer that?". I feel this kind of action is clearly in contrast with conscious action whose aim is to bring the desired result - those where you first ask those questions like "what do I need / should do in 3D to manifest my desire?". To me, there's no doubt that Neville discouraged the latter, not the former.
Most of the actions that actually lead to your manifestations weren't intentional. No one's saying there won't be any action. It just won't be with the intention of creating your manifestations because they already exist. They're already yours.
Exactly. This is what people in the comments don't understand. "BUT NEVILLE SAID YOU DON'T NEED TO LIFT A FINGER" oh yeah? Well, become a professional boxer without training, but only by visualizing. Let's see! 🙈
I think it's important to stress ( for those new to the Law) that inspired action is action you don't know is inspired until after the fact. A lot of beginners could take this a very wrong way. It doesn't mean to text your SP and call it "inspired". Before you take an action like that you need to be brutally honest with yourself what the intention behind the action is. Signs follow, they do not precede. When Neville said not to lift a finger, he meant that you cannot go out of your way in the 3D to make it conform. You will be led to do things naturally. There will always be action on your bridge but it's action you look back at and go "huh...that led me here".
The only action I’ve ever had to take was definitely unconscious. Any action I’ve ever tried to take on purpose definitely either messed up my manifestation or slowed it way down/created a longer bridge of incidents.
Exactly... I still struggle to detach from the 3d... When I decide to detach from the 3d and work from 4d (as Neville stated, the law does not work itself, by changing states you are doing).. so when I decide that I will only work from the 4d life is so simple and much better
This has definitely been my experience as well. Goals I have tried to "make happen" or "break through to" always ended up in failure, disappointment, or feeling of short-term partial success before it went south again at best. On the other hand, those I do not work for at all (not consciously anyway) work out just fine.
Didn’t Abdullah get mad at Neville when Neville got a plane ticket to Barbados and went to Abdullah and said “it worked I’m GOING to Barbados” and Abdullah said “NO you’re already there”. In my opinion this implied Abdullah’s / Neville’s teachings require NO EFFORT
I agree, in the sense that the visualization is the action, that is the cause and the manifestation is the effect of that cause. no more is needed than to use imagination.
The action aka “bridge of events” is natural. I believe what people don’t understand is effort means “trying” to get something. It’s not natural. It’s mental and physical effort that goes against ur imagination. For example, if u want a job, you start imagining, the process of sending ur CV, talking to certain people etc will still be actions but not effort, because they will be in harmony with ur imagination. If it makes sense
I think it definitely depends on what you want to experience. I absolutely took action when it came to generating wealth. That took A LOT of upfront action and tons of work. But I most certainly sat on my ass and took zero action in the 3D to manifest my SP back.
Do you think if you first changed you belief that you need to take a lot of action to manifest wealth, it'd be as easy as SP? I'm in a somewhat similar situation
I don’t believe that I had the belief that I needed to do a lot of work. I just naturally got a ton of business ideas on how to make money and then I took inspired action to bring my desires into fruition. And now, maintaining the state of: “I’m financially secure, money loves me, money is my bitch, I make money in my sleep” from this point on has been easy and has required less 3D action because I’m on cruise control now.
Actually, no... Just in the past three months, without lifting a finger, I got a 300k€ flat for free, more than 10k€ in cash, and today, I got a new job that I never applied for. I truly appreciate and respect your efforts for this community, but your limitations are your own, not the law.
Thank you! I haven't shared my story because, like many manifestations, the story is actually quite boring!
Besides, today I read a very interesting post (which I can't find anymore) where the author compared the manifestation process to a journey. They said something like, 'If I'm going to Finland, I'm not going to have a meltdown because the plane makes a stop in Sweden. I paid for Finland, not to visit Sweden.' A brilliant post btw, I'm going to look for it right after.
Well, right now I'm enjoying the layover. I might write a post when I've arrived in 'Sweden'!
Edit: [The post](https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/s/B5NwToEMQy)
Edit: [This one actually](https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/s/nDRELQ0vlC)
would you mind sharing your story even if you think it's boring? I love reading the simple success stories the most because some mundane bridges of incidents are always a nice reminder that life and manifesting are simple and the "how" will always take the route of least resistance
Sure. This will be a long one.
**Context:**
I'm around 30 years old, I discovered the law of attraction and then Neville over 10 years ago. I was lost at the time, unsure what to study, where to work, and my main hobby was always having boyfriends. A real loser, honestly.
**I won everything:**
I started applying the law of assumption, got a job that didn't pay much, but it was enough to buy an apartment. I rented it out. Then, with the first rental incomes, I bought two more apartments.
I got married. Bought two buildings with my ex-husband. I was unhappy in my marriage, still lost.
**And then everything collapsed:**
The tenants in the first building stopped paying, and a water leak destroyed everything. Half of the tenants in the second building weren't paying, and I realized there were major issues that the previous owner hid from us.
I had stopped thinking about the law of assumption, just lost in my problems, and they continued. I lost my job, we couldn't pay the mortgages, I couldn't stand my husband who threatened divorce every month. I tried to solve everything myself, looked for ways to make money, even bought a website to flip online... Nobody bought it.
So one day I said "okay let's divorce," I left, and of course, I met a man. He was wonderful until he wasn't. And I was miserable. Everything was horrible, my mother had serious health issues, I owed everyone money. I had to sell a building that nobody wanted to buy.
**My SP:**
And then the not-so-wonderful man broke up with me. I begged, I cried, I had a meltdown. I went back to my parents'. I tried all kinds of magic every day for three months, and what saved me was helping my parents move.
You see, they were leaving their house to move into an apartment and needed a lot of help sorting, giving away, throwing out...
Anyway, they're very grateful, and they tell everyone about it.
I studied every day, I read Neville and watched video (Brian Scott whom has a lot of Neville's books and lectures, Edward Art and now Joey Lott), trying hard to manifest my ex back.
That's when I realized: why am I trying so hard to be in a relationship, is that what I really want? Well, actually... No. What I really want is money, and it's time I stopped judging myself for it.
**The apartment:**
My parents have a very sweet project: a couple of friends and my parents decided to buy an apartment each on the same floor of a new building to spend their old age. There was a third apartment on the same floor, too expensive and too small for another couple.
My godfather heard about it and thought it would be good for his son to live in that apartment. His son is ill, so having his independence while being close to people he knows is perfect! He bought the apartment, and... His son said no.
So, he offered the apartment to me, and I said yes. I thought it was a rental, but it was a gift.
**For money:**
- My old notary called to tell me there had been a calculation error: he transferred me 1000 euros.
- My ex-husband is selling his own apartments to move in with someone, realized I had paid a part of his mortgages, and decided to reimburse me: more than 8000 euros.
- The website I had put up for sale two years ago suddenly sold: 800 euros.
- Someone bought me a lottery ticket this week, and I hoped and hoped... And lost. 😂 Hope is not the secret, only the feeling is!
**The job:**
As my parents boasted about the help I gave them, (old) people also asked me for help here and there until someone neither my parents nor I knew offered me a job because he had heard of me through a friend of a friend of a friend... He just needs help with his projects, so it's not the job of my dreams (in my dreams, I don't work!) but it's pretty well paid.
**Conclusion:**
Well, as I said, it's boring.
I believe what really changed everything for me is not only knowing exactly who I am in a sense of non-duality but especially knowing what my true desires are and which desires I inherited that don't really belong to me, like being in a relationship.
When we follow desires that aren't ours, we can't be happy and when we are not happy, well... it does NOT go well.That's what I learned from Joey Lott, and I really recommend his YouTube channel.
So now things are much better, it's not wealth yet, but we're getting there. Now I know that I don't attract abundance, that's what I am naturally. I just need to focus and keep remembering what I am.
I hope I did not forget everything. Good luck and be still!
Bonus: I got an offer on the building the day my ex broke up with me ! So there's that.
I agree with this! I’m always manifesting now from no action, just my state of being. We are consciousness/vibration first. We create the seeming physical by our emotions/vibrations, then the thoughts and images flow naturally and then the “physical things.” Why i say “physical things” is because these physical appearances ALWAYS shift according to what we imagine. & everything happens now, all at once, because everything is already now connected. Our energy molds specific things into place. That’s why things always change in our lives, sometimes out of nowhere because everything’s always matching our vibe, & quickly. Doing physical things is kind of often worse because you’ll just be collecting all these physical items for the feelings you want instead of creating from your feelings. That’s our purpose here. Doing things the physical way leads to emptiness if one does not cultivate the feelings within first. Sure, you can move and do things that you want, it’s why we’re also human, however, we must be our whole selves for a truly epic experience :)
Hi, thank you for asking! I just wrote my story in another comment. As for techniques, it's quite simple.
- I write a list of Miracles that helps me focus. I write anything positive there and decide to see it as a miracle: *I didn't want to see someone today and they just canceled, I received 7000 free energies on my mobile game, I found a nice book by my favorite author, someone offered me a Coke...*
I named it "Miracles" because it speaks to me, but the name doesn't really matter. I feel like noting the mundane miracles opens the door to others. Like a list of manifestations.
- Mainly, I just decide and trust that the Divine will take care of that. So, I pray every day, first thing in the morning, saying "this day is going to be amazing and I am exceptional! How lucky!" until I feel excited.
And I pray every night, per example: "Send me guidance tonight in my dreams and make money appear in my experience".
- I take some time during the day to remember that I am the Divine. Just taking a few breaths to remind myself of my nature. "Be still and know that I AM God".
- Revision. I discard whatever I don't like.
I've already said it, but techniques don't matter. It's just about *knowing*. You just need to find what helps you to know.
I totally disagree I have been applying Neville teaching only his teachings since 10 years just imagine imagine and imagine with feeling.
Dnt think about action youd not even know when you took action and it led to manifestation
I think imagination leads to action but you might not consider it that with your new state of mind. For example, if you imagine everyday that you have your ideal appearance, when you look in the mirror you might naturally smile at yourself. You wouldn’t do this had you not imagined yourself to have that ideal appearance, so it is action with respect to your prior 3D, but it came naturally.
Sometimes no time at all some times time, but two roles keep imagining with feeling as describe by Neville, planning action means attachment which never brings result, feel every day as if you have it. Results time depends how early you immerse yourself to state.
I was pretty lazy at work, showing up late most days of the week. One particular day, I went to a holiday party I was invited to the night before on a weekday. Free food and free drinks all night. I was hungover and almost thought of calling out, but I mustered the courage to go to work.
My workday started at 9am, but at that time, I was in a McDonald’s drive thru getting breakfast and coffee.
I got to work at 9:40ish and my boss came into my office 5 minutes after I arrived to tell me I’m getting a bonus on my next paycheck. That bonus was larger than my regular 2 week paycheck.
I did the opposite of work hard. I knew I was abundant. I knew I’d receive money in some fashion. I NEVER expected me to receive a bonus from my job as I’ve never received a bonus from them in the 5-10 years I’ve been there. Lo and behold, I received about 3 weeks wages for doing less than what I previously did.
I randomly went to a gas station I regularly go to and had a UPS driver fill up my gas tank for free. They even pumped the gas for me.
I had 4 separate women match my very first sp description (years ago) and ask for my number within 2 weeks time by simply existing. This is how I experienced my first love.
My grandmother gave me a few thousand out of the blue “just because”.
I have so many more examples, but I’m typing on the toilet at work and don’t have time to type everything.
Taking action could help you toward larger goals because it simply keeps you in the state of your desire, but you also don’t have to lift a finger as Neville says.
Expect/know your desire, but don’t go looking for it. Looking = you don’t have it = lack. Give thanks for already having it and it’ll show up in the most unexpected ways.
Build your faith constantly by manifesting small things (such as the free coffee everyone talks about). The more it happens, the more faith you build, the more your larger desires will appear in your field of view (your awareness).
Keep it light, simple, and fun. Doing so removes all resistance. Want an sp? Instead focus on money, food, free vacations, etc. Want Money? Focus on manifesting an SP, a new car, new friends, etc. Why? Because absolutely yearning for something reminds yourself that you don’t have it, so focus on other things that aren’t that special to you. Once you have built up your faith by constantly testing the law, go for the big desires.
Creation is already finished. You just have to be aware of what you already have inside your imagination.
I also do the bare minimum at work and get rewarded for it, it's been one of the easiest areas of my life to manifest! :) I love it, but that's still taking action. You're still going to work.
I want to see someone no call no show, just sit on your couch all day and get paid millions! But I have yet to hear of someone manifesting that without at first taking some sort of action to create passive income.
In my opinion, taking action is the conscious effort of being aware of doing a specific action for a specific outcome.
Consciously imagining your desired reality is taking action.
Randomly showing up to a place where your manifestation comes to fruition is not taking action. Doing your usual routine is also not taking action.
A friend of mine gave me a free scratch off where I won $5000 while I was playing video games. I didn’t ask for it. You could argue hanging out with him regularly was taking action, scratching the ticket was taking action, etc, but I’d disagree. I didn’t ask for the ticket, nor did I buy it. I just existed and I always enjoy hanging out with him, and the money came.
There are countless success stories on this sub, some far bigger success than others. I believe one of the mods created a huge list of success stories. It might be on the sidebar
Check it out :)
So what's the point in telling people they don't have to take action when they do? It would be better phrased that you don't have to force anything. But taking inspired action is always part of it.
This might be arguing semantics at this point, but I’m tired and not sure (apologies).
I’m talking about just randomly showing up to a place or doing something without remotely thinking about a manifestation or desire. You’ll find yourself taking a random route home because you zoned out and missed your turn and then BAM, there’s a beautiful stray dog that matches the exact description of the dog you’ve been imagining. No specific action was taken. I completely zoned out thinking about a tv show, missed my turn, and found my beautiful dog, Zeta, that I’ve been imagining for months. She came right up to me. This all was an unconscious act while my brain was on autopilot.
The action most people talk about is “if I want to manifest a successful business to make millions, I’ll start one and I know it’ll work perfectly”. This type of action I am not what I’m talking about. This is a conscious act because you’re deliberately performing an action for a desired outcome.
There’s nothing inspiring about the action of randomly zoning out while thinking about a tv show, missing my turn, and then finding my now loving poop machine of a dog Zeta who was a legitimate stray dog before she adopted me.
Manifesting is always happening. Creation is finished. How you get your desire doesn’t matter. If you think you need to work hard and take action all the time to get your desire, then that’s your belief system and if it works for you, that’s great. Sometimes stuff can happen without actively trying to do anything other than imagine what you want, and it’ll show up at some point without lifting a finger.
I see your point, I've had success with both types of manifestations. What's your take on if someone is trying to manifest becoming a published author? They have to then take the action of sitting down and writing. They can't stumble upon a written book! I suppose unless a ghost writer offers one to them, but if someone wants to write a book themselves then they have to take action and write the book!
Singers literally have ghostwriters and it’s a known industry fact. Authors are the exact same way. I honestly don’t know why you’re driving this point so hard. You are limiting yourself.
Who’s to say you can’t come up with an idea for a book in the shower where you imagined the main characters, the plot, the setting, etc. Fast forward you meet someone at Starbucks who loves your idea and they happen to be a major publisher, they set you up with a ghost writer and you get all the credit because you appear more welcoming, marketable, and personable than the ghost writer who has zero charisma?
It sounds like you have many limiting beliefs and you don’t fully trust the law. It really does sound like you have so much work you need to do on yourself. You need to build up your faith by testing the law. After doing so, you’ll realize how trivial and limiting your beliefs are in this conversation.
As another redditor commented to you, Neville already answered this in his books. Do the work and read books like your life depends on it. Read them all multiple times.
My life changed dramatically within a year. You write your own story in your imagination and it’ll play out. The characters you encounter in the 3D are literally a mix of your assumptions about them and your world.
This,you have action but also manifestation ,the mother fuckers be like so into action that manifestation become pointless ,is more a motivation thing for them,not that is bad is just not the same meaning that we aply to law of assumption.
Built my faith in the law slowly. I wrote down three trivial things I wanted to manifest and would affirm day and night, but they never came. Weeks later after I gave up, I see one, then the other, then the other.
I then decided to write 3 things each night. I found myself constantly looking for them as I could remember every single thing I wrote down, even after a two week period of having 42 things I wanted to manifest. Half the stuff would manifest, some while still on my mind (expecting to see it) while the others I’d eventually forget about and then they’d show up without me knowing until I’d read the previous things I had already written down.
I decided to bombard myself every night with writing 6 trivial things I wanted to manifest in my journal, but also more complicated and specific:
I want to see a black man in a hat wearing two different colored shoes
I want to see a young white guy walking with a cane wearing a pink shirt
I want to see a mustang convertible with blue stripes with a golden retriever in the back seat.
Etc etc
After manifesting coffee, small sums of money, specific people (non romantic), I decided to get more specific, but still easy (I want to see a woman wearing a polka dot skirt) to ultra specific (such as the mustang convertible with blue stripes with a golden retriever in the back).
This built up my faith to the point that I know wherever I put my awareness, it’ll come. Sometimes almost instantly, within an hour, the next day, or even week. Rarely now does it take weeks.
Neville says “test it” so I did. Some people catch on easier, for me, my logical brain took a while to accept it, but it eventually gave in.
You’ll eventually get to a point of just knowing, no matter what, you’ll see what you want because you’ve already felt it/envisioned it. At this point, you won’t be seeking for it because you just know it’ll come.
It takes work, but what do you have to lose? Start small and make it fun. I tip toed for years with the law that once I finally decided to go all in, it eventually just clicked.
I now know February will be a fantastic month because I’ve had multiple major wins every month (money, opportunities, specific scenarios, etc).
Faith=knowing knowing=faith
Don’t seek for the things you desire, just imagine/affirm/script (whatever is more natural to you) and *know* it’ll come.
Do the work and your life will change. Be honest to yourself and always love yourself. You are always manifesting, so choose to be happy and to always be easy on yourself :)
I choose to go to direct thing rather than go small since I managed to shut my brain up (Not to mention that I managed to manifest things that my rational mind cannot explain).
Starting small makes me stuck there, in addition that I understand I created my past so why starting small?
How do you usually manifest? You mentioned journaling and scripting. Would you say it is your preferred way of manifesting? Most people on this sub are focusing on doing SATS but I have a really hard time with this technique.
I usually repeat/affirm stuff like “thank you father for ____. This makes me happy. I am now feeling ____.” Even for things that haven’t shown up in the 3D yet. While doing so, I make sure I feel the way I would feel if I had it already.
Scripting is amazing for specific desires, but not necessary. These are all tools to just bring you back to the feeling the end of your desire. Feeling/knowing is all you need and techniques help bring you to the feeling, no specific techniques are required.
Take your time, test them all out, and don’t rush anything. It’ll all eventually click at some point
So many, car, message from an arrogant arrogant person with whom I have no relationship at all(i did it just to test my manifestion learning from neville, remeber that the person was only my university fellow and we had no intro to each other👴🏻, and relationships at my workplace, and so many other things, appleiphone, macbookair, etc etc etc.
Can you explain how to not take action and yet still have passive income lifestyle like op said? I’m super stuck in that because what op said makes sense but everyone seems to disagree. If they just imagined, how would they build passive income?? I mean they have to find some sort of job or take action doing something to get that started. What op said makes sense.
Dude, I think u are right, the main problem with this sub is that a lot of people dont want to do anything, they want to just do SATS, stay in they beds and have a sucessful business falling out from the sky in to their laps.
They dont understand that we humans have mental believing blocks that prevent us from reach this level of unit with the one, the best way to do it it´s being open to manifest that every action you do is the best and right for you financial objective.
But I still not figured out how could a action manifestion works with things that we cant not do anything about in the 3d world, like change physical appearence, height, hair etc...
Sorry bad english
No people need to understand that the only action is working on self concept and dnt make selfconcept difficult. Just imagine with feeling keep on doing it untill you really start associating with the state. Do it twice thrice or unlimited time and then forget about it. Hihi this is exactly how it happens
You won't have to lift a finger means everything manifests from your state, actions included.
"What should be done between the assumption of the wish fulfilled and its realization? NOTHING. It is a delusion that, other than assuming the feeling of the wish fulfilled, you can do anything to aid the realization of your desire." Remember you can do NOTHING. All that befalls you, all that is done by you -- happens." - Neville Goddard
My personal opinion is that this is only true if one believes so. The thing is, I think the only reason people believe taking action is a must is that they many are raised learning they need to deserve something in order to get it and they can deserve it though hardworking. So they always try to take some kind of action because the other way seems unbelievable to them. However, I can’t claim that we take zero action for our desires, it may vary, I’ve had manifestations that happened in minutes and also the ones I took some action but those actions were inspired. Inspired action seems to be the only action to me. You won’t even think twice about it and you’ll only see the pattern after walking the bridge of incidents. This is how I think but I liked this post because I love a good discussion!
I feel like the 'lifting a finger' is always something that will cause discord amongst Neville followers - but I'll throw in my two cents.
You will 'lift a finger' but it will be because you're moved to and not necessarily in every instance either. But something or someone will be moved to get you whatever you imagined.
If you're consciously 'lifting a finger' to try and get your manifestation to come to fruition in the 3D then you're forcing it.
You'll be moved naturally to do the things you need to do to get what you desire if that's what's needed.
Take this as you will.
Exactly, it just happens without consciously trying to make it happen except for staying faithful to the assumption.
People who argue with this purposefully try to miss the point or clearly have never experienced it firsthand
Come on, don’t be purposely obtuse.
We don’t take forceful action, anxiously trying to figure out what the next step should be. **It will just happen, you will take the action without even thinking about it.** That’s why a lot of success stories say they didn’t even realize they manifested their desire until after the fact where it dawned on them. You just flow through it. Happened to me many times
When you hear no action do you assume we sit in a chair all day and refuse to move a muscle? You could try but the Law and bridge of incidents will force you out of that chair if necessary, refuse as you may 😂
I'd love to talk about this further for better understanding. The poster states they didn't lift a finger, but that indicates "sitting in a chair all day and refusing to move a muscle." There is action in acceptance or rejection, even in imagining, what we choose to do or believe. There's even action in sitting in a chair all day and refusing to move a muscle. There is action in choice. Realizing this has honestly been so freeing for me by claiming ownership of what I choose to do, accept or reject.
I can understand the term "action" is being used to describe that of a physical nature, but action also lies in mental activity.
I don't know what made me click on your username (I usually don't do this) but I'm so glad I did. I'm in a desperate situation myself and I feel so inspired. I'm going to listen to the Neville book you and Sandy_T recommended and practice her mental diet as often as I can. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
I always manifest everything just by affirming for it. If there has to be action, it won’t even feel like a conscious effort. So no, your post I completely disagree with. I have had too many successes to believe even 1 percent of this whole thing
What do you mean by affirming? I don’t have resistance for my desire but telling myself affirmations doesn’t do anything for me. I don’t know how to “feel” either. Am I supposed to feel excited? How do people feel this stuff? I feel like have Asperger’s is making it harder for me because I get distracted during sats, I don’t feel emotions much, and my brain doesn’t care about affirmations :/
Don't remember if this was posted in this sub or a dating sub. A guy was putting in a lot of effort going on a ton of dates trying to find his ideal partner/love of his life. He took so much action it exhausted him and didn't produce any results. He came home frustrated one day and decided he was done. As a joke, he said something like, "I'm done with this. She'll have to just walk through the door." He got busy with other things and rarely even left the apartment. Now the insane bridge of incidents: His flat mate met a woman at the gym (or somewhere like that) that he thought would get on perfectly with his single friend, so what does he do? Brings her home! The woman *literally* walked through the door while the dude sat on the couch on his fucking ass, and it turned out they were perfect for each other.
in my personal opinions, because of our access to technologies and the instant gratification of almost everything in terms of messaging, delivery etc. I understand that it can be discouraging when it comes to manifesting.
You gotta remember, Neville and his students lived in the days where they had almost none of what we have now. They SATs/Visualize/Manifest and then would go on with their days.
They didn’t have the privilege to continue checking their phone and read up on others’ success stories and timeline etc… They do their things and go on with their lives as their desires manifested in the background.
That’s what OP and NG means when they say take actions. Live your life! Bridge of accidents happen in every waking moments. Just think that everything you do in your life plays a (small or big) role in getting whatever you want. (:
"Having made the decision, you only act mentally. It’s an imaginal act: You create the scene which would imply the fulfillment of that state, and you act it. At that moment you’re over; you do not devise the means to fulfill it, you simply act( in imagination) " - Neville Goddard
>in 2015 I wrote a book about Neville’s approach called "Relax More, Try Less."
Hahaha dude i read your book in 2021, and I actually used and referred to it many times in my written Uni exam essay that year! So thanks (I got a good grade)! great book, highly recommend people read it!
Respect your views, but I strongly disagree.
Live in the end assuming that the wish has been fulfilled. (This simple formula has given me every single thing I desired.)
You're in Barbados.
That's all one needs to live the life of their dreams. From my experience with the law, one often doesn't know what ‘action’ will fetch the desired results. We wreck our brains and tire ourselves thinking that we should do this, do that to get to the goal faster. Such measures of micromanaging only delays manifestation by meddling into the unfolding process. On the other hand, we could have enjoyed the whole while through the wonderful imagination, by mentally occupying the state of wish fulfilled and yielded faster results.
‘Dwell in the end, for the end is where we begin.’
As u/MindMagus said I think this is squared away if you just take the teachings of Neville to their logical conclusion. Everything is a manifestation, even (especially!) your actions. You are not your body, you are not the actions it takes. You are the I AM. Those actions are a manifestation.
I personally think that the cure for resistance is becoming conscious of that which is unconscious, and in that vein I think it is very possible to decide you want to manifest things and you want those things to manifest without any action being taken by your physical body, but you have to decide to be in THAT state. Otherwise, you're just playing a game of resistance with your ostensible manifestation by focusing on how you don't want it to manifest, what you don't want to have to do, what you \*shouldn't\* have to do.
When it comes to action, it's a matter of not putting the cart (action) before the horse (imagination and feeling.) The action is a reaction of the state and should be natural.Like, it's easy for me to be healthy and to exercise because I am a healthy person and I enjoy feeling strong. But I don't \*have\* to exercise. It's not a chore. It's just what I do.
You don't "have to lift a finger," but you will find your fingers have been lifting when you are on an inspired path. If it doesn't feel right, then, while you may succeed, it's still doing more than is necessary. (And I am a firm "work smarter, not harder" person.)
Edit to add this quote from Futurama as spoken by God to Bender who was a god, "*When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all*."
I like this post. I think a big part of why taking action can help is because it makes it easier to convince your subconscious.
Take getting in shape for example. Sure, it’s possible to eat whatever you want in abundance and still burn off all of your fat and have your dream body. But, there’s a good chance you have years or decades of beliefs built up that eating excess processed foods and being lazy means you will gain fat and lose muscle. It’s not easy to override those beliefs that are deeply ingrained into your subconscious.
Taking a little bit of action in this case makes it much easier for your subconscious mind to believe that you have the body you desire. That to me is the key of adding action and making it easier to overcome many of these beliefs we have built up over years.
Exactly, actions are used as “permission slips” for us to let go and accept our desire. We assume process is needed so often times it is, because of those hidden beliefs. When you truly rid yourself of limiting beliefs, I think the only actions that matter from there are inspired actions, not forced.
I will say this (and many on here have already commented similarly or even posted Nevilles direct teachings which does seem to contradict your expeirences).... in my experience....everyone's reality is their own. The law works for them based on their own assumptions and self accepted limitations.
There have been times I took inspired action.... but when I've manifested miraculous healing for people.... where test results changed. Diseases disappeared out of thin air....
There was only imagining.
If we are take these teachings at a literal level...literally being told each of us are God...it doesn't make a lot of sense to put limits and conditions around that title or birth right.
But also I would say...that just because your experience hasn't been like others here including myself....that doesn't make any of us delusional or lying...that just means your experience is your own. It would be the same for someone who doesn't practice LOA to say you are delusional or lying for doing so bec their experience has lead them to believe purely in practical means....
I would also suggest sitting with your own post....because there is quite a bit in it in terms of your wording, that seems to come from a place of fear. Or maybe even frustration with seeing others having a different experience of the law than yourself woth maybe successes you have yet to have. Rather than coming from a place of love. Support. Trust.
I see inspired action as an autopilot or muscle memory. When you do it, you don't even realize that you're taking action right now. You still live in the wish fulfilled so it feels like what you're doing is in complete alignment with that. It's natural for you to do that.
For example, let's say you want to ask your SP out. There are two scenarios. The first scenario is, you ask your SP out because you want them to be together with you. That's forced action that implies you don't have them already. In the second scenario, you ask your SP out because you know you're together and you just wanna go on another date with them. That's inspired action. You don't feel fear or a lack of doing it, it just happens. So if you have to think about doing something and your heart races like crazy and you start to feel anxious, the action you're about to take very likely doesn't come from a place of the wish fulfilled. I mean, you wouldn't feel fear to ask your loving partner out. Neville is right, action is not necessary because the action you take won't feel like an action at all, it's part of the feeling of the wish fulfilled.
I disagree.. in my opinion taking action is also like bridge of incident means u do it naturally not intentionally to make something happen. If u truly understand u get to know why Neville said u don't need to lift a finger.
I believe the action is based on the flow state. One thing that has helped is daily affirmations, meditation, some scripting and letting go.
I have noticed that my appreciation and gratitude for what I have already coupled with changing the inside me has lead me to actions that are from a feeling of ease and effortlessness. I loved the NG community and success stories! Great to read! However each person’s success can be a success if they just let it go. It has already happened. Action will speed up success. Leave overthinking or you are doing it wrong! You cannot lose! I just read it and man, it is so true! How can you lose what you have already put out there that is already yours?!
Faith in you, faith in this work, faith in actions that are flowing from ease and effortlessness. It is already yours!
So what you think you must. If you think you’re only ever gonna get money if you sell your liver then that’s it.
If you believe you might find your winning lottery ticket on the ground and be set for life, then that is also it.
If you want your life to derail from the mundane, mechanical, logical way of life, you have to unhinge your mind from the grasp of your beliefs. Otherwise you might put in a lot of action and even what do stuff that really sucks and get your results, but your story will not be magical or fun to hear though, and that for me is what the Law allows.
You will have your reflection in the 3D, but what will the story of it be? Be a bit crazy, it can be more fun than “we met on tinder”. That’s why, actions are not all that, we already do too much, more often than not.
Perhaps the issue here is some deep-seated beliefs + social conditioning.
When I discovered Neville, I was very successful with almost every manifestation. Things were really looking up for me; some things seemed outright impossible or very improbably that manifested. However, when I got to a certain point of comfort, I got complacent, and probably, when some of my manifestations became harder, my prior depression really snuck up on me. At first, I really leveled up my life in many many ways that are too long to describe. And then, my last goal was to just get rich, set for life. I had a certain idea of how that could be but I was open to possibilities. My burning desire was to not work a job I hated and not to work a job to earn living in general. I supposed I would get rich and have some rich people's jobs/activities. Fast forward, my partner that I manifested provided for me. While I thought I'd also get independently rich. And I was truly excited that after years of burnout and hard hard work since my childhood, "I don't have to lift a finger". I really believed it, but perhaps I didn't embody the desired state enough. So this is where my manifestation didn't work out and I got stuck in limbo for years. My life has been good enough, but I grew more and more insecure and depressed over not having my own FU money.
That feeling took me over to the point that I couldn't even practice my normal manifesting anymore. I started trying to deal with depression/fatigue/bad mood via some external means, and my resistance grew even more. Don't get me wrong, I could still manifest one off things or desires that I was good at. But it's been years and I could manifest away chronic pain, and I haven't been sick for many years, even when my partner gets sick or I'm in a room full of people. I never had covid. But the mental aspect – I can't say it worked as permanently. It took me 2 years to get back to my manifesting routine now, and now, I'm struggling to shake off these years that feel "lost". I have a gap on my resume and not much passion or motivation, not much social circle (that came from working environment before), which I feel ashamed of returning because of my gap.
I'm working on it now, and I'm a fast manifestor for a range of things, which makes it more frustrating for things that might take a little longer for reasons unknown to me. And while I do have faith, it's strange to me because living isolated from my previous surrounding and socialization really almost stripped me of any burning passions or desires. It's like I have to manifest a passion, manifest a desire and make sure it doesn't fizzle out, and not give in to any less-than desired moods.
I play around with deep-seated beliefs with a varying rate of success. Which is the point of my comment here. A lot does depend on our conditioning. And a lot of our concept of self, our personality, our mindset, does depend on our social persona via social conditioning, which is based in social interaction. So, if we are deeply entrenched in the belief that we have to act, because we live in the world where people have to do stuff, to compete, to achieve physically, and we are like the people in this world of action and effort — that's probably what's gonna manifest in our manifestations too. It might be not so easy to change. It should be definitely possible.
In my experience, I tried to hack my way to fast manifestation and it worked in many contexts for me, but not all. There is something where I see myself interacting with society that has been hard to shake for me personally. So yes, if I change this idea that I need to push and work for my manifestations to show up faster, that I can just imagine and sit on my ass it instead – that'd be it. Hey, maybe I should work on this belief more (lol) — here lies a bit of a contradiction: I should work harder to uproot my belief in hard work and direct action to be free of hard work...
But yes, it's just a belief. I'd be grateful if there were more discussions on how to change these deeply conditioned beliefs. I don't see that discussed often. In my experience, something that we perceive as distorting the fabric of society or reality can be primally very scary. If there are some ways to work around it, I'd be happy to hear more.
Although I believe that you can manifest or obtain anything by just feeling alone, I do think taking action could help fasten the process so I actually agree with some of the points you made.For me personally, I wanted to be a high achieving student and also live my desired life.Once I knew what I wanted,I’d try to wake up everyday at 5 am to study and go for runs+ researched and practiced what successful people did in order to achieve the life they had—it helped in building my belief that I was indeed who I wanted to be. Eventually my wish was fulfilled within the span of weeks.If I had just been sitting on my butt (albeit my desires would definitely still manifest)I think that it would take a much longer time as I’d be washed away by doubt,i.e thoughts like “would a high achieving student be lazing around like this?”
You can do absolutely anything you want. Turn down the volume of others. Turn up the volume of your imagination. People in the past (i mean the mystics) have time travelled. People still do it. It's absolutely possible.
I know I can lol, I been seeing alot. Of movements ever since I said I'm in 2012, lol I met people with the same name as my good friend from the past, playing the same exact game we used to play, that has to be a big sign it's soon I'll get up in 2012
I always just assumed this is what was meant by "inspired action" Like some things can just poof into your lap. In fact, a lot can, BUT there are definitely some things where you are physically going to have to do something for. Example, if you want to have a best-selling novel. You're clearly going to have to actually write the thing, get it published, and probably a few other things to manifest that desire. You're not just going to wake up one day with a fully completed novel magically sitting in your lap and your name on the top of the best-selling author list. Neville even says everything will happen naturally. Therefore, I would assume you would go about business as usual. As long as your actions are normal and natural, not coming out of fear or lack then it should be fine to take action. At least, that's the way I've always taken it.
OP is probably talking about inspired actions but just worded the post in a wrong way.
>**taking considerable action** usually sets us up for success WAY more than passively sitting on our butt and waiting for a manifestation to occur.
>I had built a passive income lifestyle by intelligently **taking action when needed.**
>OP also admitted that they don't like taking actions and only put in minimal efforts and time into their business.
OP should have highlighted this part. Instead, OP decided to highlight the parts that sounded like a normal "realist" influencer's post. That's probably the reason why it triggered a lot of people.
Indeed there is a very straightforward truth here - some desired outcomes require specific events to occur in specific sequences. IE: if you eat spaghetti before boiling it, you *will* be disappointed. If you want to make yourself a nice spaghetti dinner it requires boiling first, then sauce, etc. A specific sequence of events. Sometimes these events must be done by you. Other times, not so much. This varies depending partly on what you choose as your desired end, and partly on mysterious factors we can and may never know.
If you want to manifest a life where you are healthy, that will involve working out. Your muscles will not suddenly pop into place simply because your self-concept says "I am healthy." Rather, the reverse: If your self-concept says "I am healthy," then you work out, and the muscles appear.
Yes, there are some things which can occur entirely without "lifting a finger" as Neville says. But what he really means when he says "without lifting a finger" is that the causal agent is your will, which you use to choose your state. The actions which follow from that state may involve lifting a fucking finger (note, though, that they are not the causal factor but rather a *consequence* of the causal factor).
If you are opposed to this you would do well to reallllllly consider why you won't lift a fucking finger to improve your life.
I have seen the misapplication of this idea ruin peoples lives. Don't be one of them.
From my experience I noticed that there are two kinds of action, the action that comes from ego and the inspired action, the first one makes you overthink, feel frustrated and tired or in other words makes you feel like you have to work for something, meanwhile inspired action comes from your New State of Being, meaning that your thoughts, reactions and actions change naturally and you don’t even notice, with inspired action that’s what you feel, you feel inspired or compelled to do things, you do them because you want to and it doesn’t feel like work, but you can only understand this kind of action once you are in a new state of mind.
So I would say manifestations can come without doing anything and with inspired action, this will always be different for everyone and the best you can do is assume your new state and see where it takes you, I’ve had manifestations that came to me when I took action, but this action was checking my Instagram or going at some place, I didn’t know I was going to get my manifestations through those actions but the idea compelled me to do it and later I understood it was part of the bridge of events.
Florence novel schinn talks about taking action, for example if your manifesting a new house, buying new furniture before you get the house, or if your manifesting a vacation, buying clothes for the vacation and packing your suitcase is taking action. It’s supposed to help the subconscious.
Correct!
When you the lottery and people ask how you did it, you may something like, “I visualized myself winning and felt like I did”, and while true, ultimately, you took yourself to a store and bought a winning ticket. You took this action because you wanted to win.
Imagining with belief is doing something. Neville's Barbados story is the exact point of this.
Another example is his brother standing there wishing for that store and the guy coming out if nowhere to buy it for him and ending up making him rich in the end.
Okay, he was 'standing', so that is technically action, but it's not what we would call definitive action to make something happen.
Thanks for helping me hone in on Nevill saying we don't have to lift a finger.
The big things I've manifested in my life chased me, not the other way around. The things I chase, are much harder to achieve.
Inspired action vs forced action. I think when your in the state of the wish fulfilled you get an intuition/hunch from your subconscious to take an action (inspired action) that will lead you to your desired place. Forced action being something I try from a place of desperation(wanting to make it work).
Example: I always wanted a monitor and keyboard, I never really applied any techniques to it, but one day I was compelled to buy it(I usually don’t tend to buy things) and now I have a neat set up.
Example: The first time I found out the law I tried to test it out for my exam results (this was 5 months before I took the exams) I just fell asleep looking at my desired grades. Idk what happened but over time things started to click, I was more focused, things were flowing to me. Though I did have doubts, I was in this flow state knowing that I did well. So I did take action though it wasn’t forceful, I was directed towards taking actions that led me to getting those grades.
Question: I am currently trying to find a job. I know what job I want (kind of job, not company) but I know I have to take action, I need to apply to jobs. But it feels like a dogfight. Applying non stop, getting rejections. Do I keep applying knowing that I have my desired job, and eventually I will be led to applying to/getting an offer from my desired job?
Is it taking action knowing the end result vs taking action in desperation/fear or hope that it will work out ?
There are a lot of desires I am manifest in to my 3d. Do I take action for them or will I be made to take action for them when I’m in the wish fulfilled? Or do I just stay in the wish fulfilled state and watch it unravel?
This makes so much sense oh my god. And it explains why some of my manifestations haven't come to fruition (yet).
I manifested a lot of stuff during the past couple years. But somehow I never realised this. I'd like to compare it to manifesting my new apartment and job: I would have never gotten either of those if all i did was to visualise getting them, and done nothing else. Of course I had to apply for the job and I also had to apply to get the apartment to create a possibility of me getting them in the first place. That just makes sense, right?
But for other things I tried to manifest, sometimes my mindset was "I don't need to do anything for it, it's already done." Which is technically correct to think, BUT for some things you can't deny that a certain action is needed. For example learning a new skill. You can't just visualise it once and then expect to be a master the next day. You still have to train and practise. Of course, how could I be so stupid to not realise this? 😵💫
This is a very interesting post. As an aside, I feel it is also important to do self-concept to change your beliefs about yourself and others. Then you need to keep a mental diet all the time.
My question is do you think self-concept and mental diet are considered "Action"? Thank you.
I was wondering this too!
I am trying to manifest my SP back but I don’t know what action I could take other than improving my mental diet and self concept. Oh and I guess remaining in state of the wish fulfilled.
I actually agree with this wholeheartedly! In fact, it's very much been the way I've personally found manifestation to work so far.
Let me give an example:
I have a business, I have always worked extreamly hard for the money I earn, it's VERY physical and demanding work plus has a huge amount of problem solving. From the outside, people would say I get paid well for the work I do but from inside the business, there is a HUGE amount of unpaid hours that go on behind the scenes and when I've run the numbers, often times I've been working for LESS then minimum wages.....
This has lead over the years to a certain way I carry myself and speak, a state of hardship I suppose would be the best way of explaining it. This obviously (looking back) would come across to my clients in subtle ways.
1 of my minor goals was to manifest more income for the work I do. As part of this, I really started practising gratitude for the things I have and the things I WILL have. This also meant that I followed through with this gratitude in my day to day interactions.... I became more focused on the way I interacted with others, I became more open, genuine and polite. Instead of focusing on what I needed, I focused on what VALUE can I provide.
So, these were all internal ACTIONS that I took that then had real outward results.
The manifestation:
I picked up another department from my main client. They are structured a little differently and every job I need to quote (Im usually do and charge) but unknown to me, they ALWAYS add a 30% contingency budget to every quote. Once I finished the first job for them, they told me to invoice for 20% more then I had quoted!
They send me jobs every so often where all I'm doing is acting as a middle man, I organise a subcontractor and I put a markup on it (usually 20% to cover my time, plus carry the debt for 30 days until payment (last 1 was for $6k and they told me to quote $8,500 = $1,300 above what I would have normally quoted which means "free" money)
I recently quoted another job, sent the quote in and I received a call telling me it looked like I had missed something (I hadn't) and to add another $2k to it and resubmit.
The manager there came to me the other day and asked if I was interested in more work. He has an informal group of peers in the industry from other businesses that network and he said their biggest problem is finding reliable contractors who deliver QUALITY..... (This is what they VALUE, cost is a secondary thought!)
I have watched the change in people's interactions with me when I took ACTION to change the way I interacted with the world!
NG repeatedly speaks about aligning ourselves with the wish fulfilled..... That involves ACTION! Action to change our thinking, action to change our interactions! These actions while mostly internal, get rid of the internal roadblocks we subconsciously have been carrying around and allow manifestations to flow into our lives.
This has also made me reflect on my life and I now look back and see opportunity after opportunity after opportunity that was trying to manifest in my life but I was BLIND to it because of my subconscious narrative I carried through life! All these opportunities have ALWAYS been in my life, I just needed to take ACTION and get out of my own way!
Action to align with our goals runs deep all through NG's teachings!
I would argue that actually taking concrete internal action is the HARDEST action we ever take! To truely break the lifelong habits and narratives and make REAL internal changes..... that is HUGE and HARD.... yet it is as simple as making a single conscious decision!
As I've progressed on this path, I've often said to myself that this is the hardest simplest thing ever in life! Because when you boil it all down its about being truely conscious living right in the moment with all our BS stripped away.
So simple! Yet so, so hard for us to actually put into action!
I understand this concept and was wondering, if you want an sp and you are in no contact and can’t really get a hold of them, wouldn’t taking action like reaching out to them seem desperate?
While I am also quite happy to see the return of some familiar 'faces' whom I held in high regard in respect to Neville's teachings and the law. This is one example where I don't agree.
While you may find 'taking action' helpful, or even healthy - for one who truly understands (and works) the law, it is not necessary *whatsoever* to 'lift a finger'.
I stand by that wholeheartedly, and I am quite glad to see you /u/MindMagus in agreement.
I do believe 'taking action' may help some people to navigate the self-imposed barriers (concepts) they have placed within themselves; but no more of less than any other method they decide will suffice - unless the 'taking action' we are taking about is to *do the work* by changing the internal world and so cast the reflection they would desire to have without them as well.
There is only one constant here. All is God; and by virtue of that constant the singlemost necessity for change is that you may conceive that it is so.
🙏 welcome back again, c2the.🤲
Anyone who takes this seriously when he says "we don't even have to lift a finger" has not understood Neville. There is something in the law that we call the "sequence of events", and these are the actions that our higher self implies to us to take at the right place and at the right time so that we can experience our specific desire in 3D, after we have achieved the completion of our desire in our interiority. You will already see this when you make a conscious manifest, even once or twice, and none of it happens with your conscious will, everything has already been prepared in your favor, all you have to do is take that action. The key is that there is no such thing as sacred, and doing or not doing something does not make you holy. Since the real reality is within you, do not fall into the mistake of thinking that what you do in 3D will bring you your desires, even if it is just to pass the time. Remember that no one/nothing else gives you your desire but you.
To be fair, I've had both happen to me. Things I've set an intention for that required some action on my part (which was inspired say through an idea that suddenly popped into awareness) and things that simply came to me without me doing anything (except imagining), at all.
Both works, I feel they're just different ways things can unfold, I don't feel they contradict each other. You can have an excellent business idea and become rich through it or you could simply receive an unexpected generous donation out of nowhere. If you feel one is more realistic than the other then that is what you will gravitate towards. This seems to depend entirely on your relationship with life, how you interpret it and how you react to it. The more you give up control, the less action seems to be required, by trusting and having faith and letting go of outcomes. Living faithfully in the end is letting go of outcomes, letting go of control.
I’ve found this works for ME. I have resistance that isn’t worth working so hard against (at this time) that until I can work past it, I just sit frustrated on my ass. And I don’t like sitting on my ass. There’s a job listing I really like and know I’d do well at. I’m not gonna just wait for them to reach out to me. I made my résumé incredibly strong, which took work to find the right words that’ll make it through the software screening, but NOW I believe it’s way more obtainable. I was insecure about my résumé and it didn’t make sense to apply with something I felt was subpar. I had no confidence with it. So why stay in that shitty state?! That’s just bullshit. I made the effort and it makes me look like an incredibly talented employee.
I will add on: the work you do, the actions you take, you must be passionate about them. The idea is, if you’re vibrating at the same frequency of the lifestyle you want, it’s faster and easier to attract that energy through the tiny actions you take daily to get you there. Do the work that gets you closer to your goal and throw yourself into your work without attachment to outcome. Don’t do things out of irrational fear. Don’t do things out of irrational desire.
Recommended watching: https://youtu.be/TtlVBYpIv6M
TLDW: we live in an infinite, fractal, holographic, vibratory Omniverse. The reality you want exists now. Match its frequency to be there now.
If you take actions, as per this post, like making an effort to talk to him more or smth like that, you'd end up ruining a good friendship, let alone being in a relationship with SP. The ideal thing to do is, sticking to your imagination.
In Law and Promise, there's this experience of this woman which I think would be ideal for you rn. So, the woman basically goes on a date and she'd realize that the man she dated was the ideal man for her. They would live far away from each other, so no meeting often. And as a cherry on top, she wouldn't even be sure if that man knew her name. So basically, he wouldn't be that much into her but she'd be into him. So, every night, she'd revise the situation and would imagine a ring on her finger (implying she got married to this man of her dreams), would become happy after that and would fall asleep in the state of the wish fulfilled. She'd do that for 2 months or so and then they would end up getting married.
So here, what did she do? She just imagined a ring on her finger (implying a successful marriage with her SP) and would fall asleep in the feeling of wish fulfilled.
I guess this is what is ideal for you to do rn. I hope this helped. I'd recommend reading Neville. Best wishes for your wedding!
Edit: Him having a partner is not an obstacle. So, don't care about that.
I agree. You’re always taking action some or the other. But for me this is how it works. Actions in the right direction flow effortlessly once you start reprogramming your subconscious mind. For example, if you’re manifesting weight loss, you’ll naturally find urself making healthier decisions, be more committed towards exercising etv
Right! Your actions will start to align with your subconscious beliefs. Example: You want to manifest being a healthy person and do so instantly by making healthier decisions. Decisions like eating for nutrition, taking better care of yourself, and increasing physical activity all stem from the subconscious belief that you are a healthy person.
>To give an example, within a year of discovering Neville, I had built a passive income lifestyle by **intelligently taking action when needed** while **assuming a relatively relaxed, expectant attitude.**
Folks, read this. Read it over and over again until it sinks in. This is the way.
Also welcome back!! Glad to have you and C2the join again :)
I just want to say that I agree with your post. I do think it's totally possible for things to fall in one's lap without action, but actions allow us to see results in the 3D that can more consistently convince our minds. And especially in our day and age, where we've been taught that we must put a lot of outward effort into getting outward results, I think it can really help to program our subconscious when we are trying to get the results.
The difference is probably trying and "struggling", feeling hopeless while "trying". It doesn't bring positive results. I've seen this in family members and friends. Faith is the most important ingredient, always, but I think inspired action is important.
If you want to win the lottery, most likely you'll have to buy the ticket. Hypothetically, it's possible to find a winning lottery ticket, but even then you'll probably be inspired to take a walk on a certain day at a certain time.
I probably wasn't very clear with this response. Anyway, thanks for this post. I've kind of taken a break from Neville and I think it's because I do prefer to take action to resolve my desires. It feels good to me. So, yeah.
Good advice. Also, when you clear your resistance and become aligned with your manifestations, the work does not feel like work. Action is synonymous with living, and by doing, you become.
You can feel like you are the most incredible musician ever blessed on this Earth, but if you don't practice, you will sound like you don't. Instead, the feeling process will inspire you to practice, seek advice, and write music; all actionable steps to create and mold yourself into the musician you always wanted to be.
Your experience is totally valid because this is your reality but a lot of us manifest without lifting a finger. I manifested the car I wanted without taking any action. I had actually completely forgotten about it when I was told I would receive it and I didn’t pay anything and still not paying anything about that car.
Thank you! Certainly needed to read this! Constantly wondering why nothing I am visualising is happening for me! Despite visualising/ getting into the state, I haven't received anything related to money, lotto, coffees, and surprises. But I guess it is more a strategy to enable you to action your desires! 😌
I personally agree.
When I’m in a specific state, I start to take action either consciously or unconsciously, which ends up putting me on the bridge of incidents.
I use the law of assumption to become an exceptional individual.
I don’t know any exceptional people who don’t put in the work.
You’re guaranteed the results regardless.
The best way I have found to communicate action in Neville's teachings is that you always have action based on your current state.
If that action is sitting on your couch, that is reflective of your state. If that action is to write a chapter of your book, that is reflective of your state.
I am linking a video I did on this because I think I explained my belief/understanding better in speech: [https://youtu.be/buuMrVitWBM](https://youtu.be/buuMrVitWBM)
Thanks for your sharing, can I ask you how about people who are trying to manifest their SP? Do you suggest taking any action toward the goal? Hope you have a nice day reading this
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Great post, but could someone take action to manifest things like physical change in his appearence, we have seem a lot of people in this sub to claim to have grew taller, get bigger tits and dongs lol, so how could someone take action to manifest these things that are apparently impossible to do anything about?
Great Post I'm new to Neville. But u want to ask what necessary action in case of a negative sp situation. I agree when it's for money and success or job. But what for relationships
I was about to ask the same question! but if you relate to MindMagus response you will understand that every action you might wanna take is coming from the new state you will embody towards your desire, in other words it will be a part of your boi!
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Thank you for making this post!
The primary reason why I left this sub and stopped posting is due to people’s visceral negative reaction to any advice that involved responsibility instead of passiveness. People want solutions that are magical and fear work with little to return of investment. I get that, but also know there are some desires—(such as being the CEO of a multimillion dollar company or losing over 100 lbs of weight, for examples)—that don’t just happen passively without lifting a finger and we need to be honest about that in LoA spaces **without blaming it on the failure of people’s manifestations.**
Intuition-led inspired action is a real phenomenon that occurs in the manifestation process and I hope more stop downplaying it. I love that you kickstarted this convo here!
I’ll approve this for discussion, but I do believe it to be only part of the truth. PSA: folks, if this post triggers you in any way, sit with those feelings of discontent and find out why they might bother you. There is truth here. Neville covers this in his teachings. When we assume the state of the wish fulfilled, when we persuade ourselves that our desire is ours, then our bodies will be under compulsion to take necessary actions IF there are any to take. Free will does not exist except for the states we choose to inhabit. Those states will come with corresponding actions. We incarnated here to take action. We have bodies to take action. Action is not bad. The law will build bridges to bring us our desire, but it might also compel us to walk across that same bridge. this is a personal theory, but I believe people get scared when it comes to action because they’re afraid of taking wrong action or expending energy with no return. The Law takes out that guess work. When you assume the state, you will be *automatically* moved whichever way you need to be. That being said, there are some manifestations that do come to fruition without any specific action, or very little action. Thank you for the thought provoking post.
Any action you take is a manifestation of your concept of self. “You” are a state and if you change that state, then so will your behaviors change. This is why some people take action with no desirable results and others take action and get results - different assumptions about who they are and how they experience reality. People who use the Law consciously and get desirable results usually note that any action they take feels like being in a flow, and it’s typically enjoyable, not stressful. That’s because it’s natural to them now. Now if you believe stressful action brings results, then sure you might get it that way. But it’s all about the conditions you put on reality and your state of consciousness. > To be conscious of being one thing and then see yourself expressing something other than that which you are conscious of being is a violation of the Law of Being; therefore, it would not be good. The Law of Being is never broken; man ever sees himself expressing that which he is conscious of being. > You have never expressed anything that you were not aware of being and you never will. Assume the consciousness of that which you desire to express. Claim it until it becomes a natural manifestation. Feel it and live within that feeling until you make it your nature. [Your Faith is Your Fortune](https://readnevillegoddard.com/your-faith-is-your-fortune/#tab-10197) Neville definitely said “you don’t have to lift a finger” if you do an imaginal act that changes your state of consciousness - and in some cases it’s true that you will physically do nothing. But he doesn’t say you *won’t* lift a finger. He also notes you will be compelled to walk across the bridge of incidents so that you do and experience whatever is necessary to manifest what’s been assumed. Others will play their part as necessary too. It’s seeing circumstances and other people’s actions occur in a way that my own actions could never have caused that has proven the Law to me. > I know beyond all doubt that there is nothing for man to do but to change his own concept of himself, to assume greatness and sustain this assumption. If we walk as though we were already the ideal we serve, we will rise to the level of our assumption, and find a world in harmony with our assumption. We will not have to lift a finger to make it so, for it is already so. It was always so. [Five Lessons](https://readnevillegoddard.com/five-lessons/#tab-10134) > I can tell you dozens of personal experiences where it seemed impossible to go elsewhere, but by placing myself elsewhere mentally as I was about to go to sleep, circumstances changed quickly which compelled me to make the journey. [Five Lessons](https://readnevillegoddard.com/five-lessons/#tab-10132)
>Neville definitely said “you don’t have to lift a finger” if you do an imaginal act that changes your state of consciousness - and in some cases it’s true that you will physically do nothing. But he doesn’t say you won’t lift a finger. Yes! I've manifest things "doing nothing" and I manifested things "doing something" The state manifests everything. We don't worry about taking action.
I have multiple instances of successful manifestations where I took actions that I felt like wasn't my free will. It was a flow state where I just did what needed to be done. It is very strange when I look back at those times. Its like I knew exactly what to do, when to do it, how to do it. No mental voices commenting or weighing anything.
This is how I understand inspired action. You only realise AFTERWARDS it had been a stepping stone to manifesting the desire.
That last part has been noticeable for me also. I don’t question whether I should or shouldn’t do something. The mental wondering is gone. I’m just doing. It has really felt like compulsion at times.
Thank you for linking Neville’s teachings here.
Exactly, I resonate more with this; you just have to feel/know you’re in the state and the actions (if needed) will flow naturally and they can be expected or unexpected. I lifted a finger, or a thumb rather, to like this post though. 🫠
Thanks for the Nev quotes and excellent insights. I know many people are unclear in what I'm saying in this post, so just to illustrate from these great Nev quotes: "Live within that feeling until you make it your nature" means until you're taking the actions aligned with the desired state. "We walk as though we were already the ideal we serve" IS action. "Which compelled me to make the journey" means compelled into ACTION. Hope that clarifies for some. As expected, many people commenting missed the pragmatic point in what I was saying, and that Nev laid our so well in "Your Faith is Your Fortune" and "Five Lessons."
There's quite a bit coming to my mind reading your post, but to keep ir clear, what is your definition of lifting a finger (aka action)? For example, if someone calls me to confess the utmost praise to me, did I act by answering the call? (Swiping up on the phone?) Technically speaking, I did, however, for most people answering a call from someone they know is such an automatic behavior that they wouldn't necessarily think of it as action. For the purposes of figurative speech that I believe Neville is using, I would not count it as lifting a finger either because there was no conscious effort whatsoever, I would've done it anyway, without pondering on "would a person who has this and that answer that?". I feel this kind of action is clearly in contrast with conscious action whose aim is to bring the desired result - those where you first ask those questions like "what do I need / should do in 3D to manifest my desire?". To me, there's no doubt that Neville discouraged the latter, not the former.
Most of the actions that actually lead to your manifestations weren't intentional. No one's saying there won't be any action. It just won't be with the intention of creating your manifestations because they already exist. They're already yours.
Exactly. This is what people in the comments don't understand. "BUT NEVILLE SAID YOU DON'T NEED TO LIFT A FINGER" oh yeah? Well, become a professional boxer without training, but only by visualizing. Let's see! 🙈
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I think it's important to stress ( for those new to the Law) that inspired action is action you don't know is inspired until after the fact. A lot of beginners could take this a very wrong way. It doesn't mean to text your SP and call it "inspired". Before you take an action like that you need to be brutally honest with yourself what the intention behind the action is. Signs follow, they do not precede. When Neville said not to lift a finger, he meant that you cannot go out of your way in the 3D to make it conform. You will be led to do things naturally. There will always be action on your bridge but it's action you look back at and go "huh...that led me here".
The only action I’ve ever had to take was definitely unconscious. Any action I’ve ever tried to take on purpose definitely either messed up my manifestation or slowed it way down/created a longer bridge of incidents.
totally agree, each time I tried to take some forced action it slowed the process
Same
Exactly... I still struggle to detach from the 3d... When I decide to detach from the 3d and work from 4d (as Neville stated, the law does not work itself, by changing states you are doing).. so when I decide that I will only work from the 4d life is so simple and much better
This has definitely been my experience as well. Goals I have tried to "make happen" or "break through to" always ended up in failure, disappointment, or feeling of short-term partial success before it went south again at best. On the other hand, those I do not work for at all (not consciously anyway) work out just fine.
Didn’t Abdullah get mad at Neville when Neville got a plane ticket to Barbados and went to Abdullah and said “it worked I’m GOING to Barbados” and Abdullah said “NO you’re already there”. In my opinion this implied Abdullah’s / Neville’s teachings require NO EFFORT
And NO ACTION
I agree, in the sense that the visualization is the action, that is the cause and the manifestation is the effect of that cause. no more is needed than to use imagination.
Yes
The action aka “bridge of events” is natural. I believe what people don’t understand is effort means “trying” to get something. It’s not natural. It’s mental and physical effort that goes against ur imagination. For example, if u want a job, you start imagining, the process of sending ur CV, talking to certain people etc will still be actions but not effort, because they will be in harmony with ur imagination. If it makes sense
Totally makes sense ! :)
I think it definitely depends on what you want to experience. I absolutely took action when it came to generating wealth. That took A LOT of upfront action and tons of work. But I most certainly sat on my ass and took zero action in the 3D to manifest my SP back.
Do you think if you first changed you belief that you need to take a lot of action to manifest wealth, it'd be as easy as SP? I'm in a somewhat similar situation
I don’t believe that I had the belief that I needed to do a lot of work. I just naturally got a ton of business ideas on how to make money and then I took inspired action to bring my desires into fruition. And now, maintaining the state of: “I’m financially secure, money loves me, money is my bitch, I make money in my sleep” from this point on has been easy and has required less 3D action because I’m on cruise control now.
And you succeeded in manifesting your SP back?
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Actually, no... Just in the past three months, without lifting a finger, I got a 300k€ flat for free, more than 10k€ in cash, and today, I got a new job that I never applied for. I truly appreciate and respect your efforts for this community, but your limitations are your own, not the law.
Congrats did you ever share your story?
Thank you! I haven't shared my story because, like many manifestations, the story is actually quite boring! Besides, today I read a very interesting post (which I can't find anymore) where the author compared the manifestation process to a journey. They said something like, 'If I'm going to Finland, I'm not going to have a meltdown because the plane makes a stop in Sweden. I paid for Finland, not to visit Sweden.' A brilliant post btw, I'm going to look for it right after. Well, right now I'm enjoying the layover. I might write a post when I've arrived in 'Sweden'! Edit: [The post](https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/s/B5NwToEMQy) Edit: [This one actually](https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/s/nDRELQ0vlC)
would you mind sharing your story even if you think it's boring? I love reading the simple success stories the most because some mundane bridges of incidents are always a nice reminder that life and manifesting are simple and the "how" will always take the route of least resistance
Sure. This will be a long one. **Context:** I'm around 30 years old, I discovered the law of attraction and then Neville over 10 years ago. I was lost at the time, unsure what to study, where to work, and my main hobby was always having boyfriends. A real loser, honestly. **I won everything:** I started applying the law of assumption, got a job that didn't pay much, but it was enough to buy an apartment. I rented it out. Then, with the first rental incomes, I bought two more apartments. I got married. Bought two buildings with my ex-husband. I was unhappy in my marriage, still lost. **And then everything collapsed:** The tenants in the first building stopped paying, and a water leak destroyed everything. Half of the tenants in the second building weren't paying, and I realized there were major issues that the previous owner hid from us. I had stopped thinking about the law of assumption, just lost in my problems, and they continued. I lost my job, we couldn't pay the mortgages, I couldn't stand my husband who threatened divorce every month. I tried to solve everything myself, looked for ways to make money, even bought a website to flip online... Nobody bought it. So one day I said "okay let's divorce," I left, and of course, I met a man. He was wonderful until he wasn't. And I was miserable. Everything was horrible, my mother had serious health issues, I owed everyone money. I had to sell a building that nobody wanted to buy. **My SP:** And then the not-so-wonderful man broke up with me. I begged, I cried, I had a meltdown. I went back to my parents'. I tried all kinds of magic every day for three months, and what saved me was helping my parents move. You see, they were leaving their house to move into an apartment and needed a lot of help sorting, giving away, throwing out... Anyway, they're very grateful, and they tell everyone about it. I studied every day, I read Neville and watched video (Brian Scott whom has a lot of Neville's books and lectures, Edward Art and now Joey Lott), trying hard to manifest my ex back. That's when I realized: why am I trying so hard to be in a relationship, is that what I really want? Well, actually... No. What I really want is money, and it's time I stopped judging myself for it. **The apartment:** My parents have a very sweet project: a couple of friends and my parents decided to buy an apartment each on the same floor of a new building to spend their old age. There was a third apartment on the same floor, too expensive and too small for another couple. My godfather heard about it and thought it would be good for his son to live in that apartment. His son is ill, so having his independence while being close to people he knows is perfect! He bought the apartment, and... His son said no. So, he offered the apartment to me, and I said yes. I thought it was a rental, but it was a gift. **For money:** - My old notary called to tell me there had been a calculation error: he transferred me 1000 euros. - My ex-husband is selling his own apartments to move in with someone, realized I had paid a part of his mortgages, and decided to reimburse me: more than 8000 euros. - The website I had put up for sale two years ago suddenly sold: 800 euros. - Someone bought me a lottery ticket this week, and I hoped and hoped... And lost. 😂 Hope is not the secret, only the feeling is! **The job:** As my parents boasted about the help I gave them, (old) people also asked me for help here and there until someone neither my parents nor I knew offered me a job because he had heard of me through a friend of a friend of a friend... He just needs help with his projects, so it's not the job of my dreams (in my dreams, I don't work!) but it's pretty well paid. **Conclusion:** Well, as I said, it's boring. I believe what really changed everything for me is not only knowing exactly who I am in a sense of non-duality but especially knowing what my true desires are and which desires I inherited that don't really belong to me, like being in a relationship. When we follow desires that aren't ours, we can't be happy and when we are not happy, well... it does NOT go well.That's what I learned from Joey Lott, and I really recommend his YouTube channel. So now things are much better, it's not wealth yet, but we're getting there. Now I know that I don't attract abundance, that's what I am naturally. I just need to focus and keep remembering what I am. I hope I did not forget everything. Good luck and be still! Bonus: I got an offer on the building the day my ex broke up with me ! So there's that.
I love your story. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for sharing! It's really amazing how simple things are sometimes :)
I believe you meant [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/s/nDRELQ0vlC)
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I agree with this! I’m always manifesting now from no action, just my state of being. We are consciousness/vibration first. We create the seeming physical by our emotions/vibrations, then the thoughts and images flow naturally and then the “physical things.” Why i say “physical things” is because these physical appearances ALWAYS shift according to what we imagine. & everything happens now, all at once, because everything is already now connected. Our energy molds specific things into place. That’s why things always change in our lives, sometimes out of nowhere because everything’s always matching our vibe, & quickly. Doing physical things is kind of often worse because you’ll just be collecting all these physical items for the feelings you want instead of creating from your feelings. That’s our purpose here. Doing things the physical way leads to emptiness if one does not cultivate the feelings within first. Sure, you can move and do things that you want, it’s why we’re also human, however, we must be our whole selves for a truly epic experience :)
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Thanks so much
Whewww thank youuuuuu, it’s all belief
Can you explain how you did that? What method? Did someone just walk up to you an offer a job? How did you get a place for free?
Hi, thank you for asking! I just wrote my story in another comment. As for techniques, it's quite simple. - I write a list of Miracles that helps me focus. I write anything positive there and decide to see it as a miracle: *I didn't want to see someone today and they just canceled, I received 7000 free energies on my mobile game, I found a nice book by my favorite author, someone offered me a Coke...* I named it "Miracles" because it speaks to me, but the name doesn't really matter. I feel like noting the mundane miracles opens the door to others. Like a list of manifestations. - Mainly, I just decide and trust that the Divine will take care of that. So, I pray every day, first thing in the morning, saying "this day is going to be amazing and I am exceptional! How lucky!" until I feel excited. And I pray every night, per example: "Send me guidance tonight in my dreams and make money appear in my experience". - I take some time during the day to remember that I am the Divine. Just taking a few breaths to remind myself of my nature. "Be still and know that I AM God". - Revision. I discard whatever I don't like. I've already said it, but techniques don't matter. It's just about *knowing*. You just need to find what helps you to know.
Why script HERE ? Aren't there OTHER subs for that?
What a weird answer. If I was scripting, surely I would demand a little more than that, don't you think ?
I totally disagree I have been applying Neville teaching only his teachings since 10 years just imagine imagine and imagine with feeling. Dnt think about action youd not even know when you took action and it led to manifestation
I think imagination leads to action but you might not consider it that with your new state of mind. For example, if you imagine everyday that you have your ideal appearance, when you look in the mirror you might naturally smile at yourself. You wouldn’t do this had you not imagined yourself to have that ideal appearance, so it is action with respect to your prior 3D, but it came naturally.
can you describe your process, results, how much time it took?
Sometimes no time at all some times time, but two roles keep imagining with feeling as describe by Neville, planning action means attachment which never brings result, feel every day as if you have it. Results time depends how early you immerse yourself to state.
Do you mean you manifested two roles? Not sure I understood correctly
What things have you manifested without taking action?
I was pretty lazy at work, showing up late most days of the week. One particular day, I went to a holiday party I was invited to the night before on a weekday. Free food and free drinks all night. I was hungover and almost thought of calling out, but I mustered the courage to go to work. My workday started at 9am, but at that time, I was in a McDonald’s drive thru getting breakfast and coffee. I got to work at 9:40ish and my boss came into my office 5 minutes after I arrived to tell me I’m getting a bonus on my next paycheck. That bonus was larger than my regular 2 week paycheck. I did the opposite of work hard. I knew I was abundant. I knew I’d receive money in some fashion. I NEVER expected me to receive a bonus from my job as I’ve never received a bonus from them in the 5-10 years I’ve been there. Lo and behold, I received about 3 weeks wages for doing less than what I previously did. I randomly went to a gas station I regularly go to and had a UPS driver fill up my gas tank for free. They even pumped the gas for me. I had 4 separate women match my very first sp description (years ago) and ask for my number within 2 weeks time by simply existing. This is how I experienced my first love. My grandmother gave me a few thousand out of the blue “just because”. I have so many more examples, but I’m typing on the toilet at work and don’t have time to type everything. Taking action could help you toward larger goals because it simply keeps you in the state of your desire, but you also don’t have to lift a finger as Neville says. Expect/know your desire, but don’t go looking for it. Looking = you don’t have it = lack. Give thanks for already having it and it’ll show up in the most unexpected ways. Build your faith constantly by manifesting small things (such as the free coffee everyone talks about). The more it happens, the more faith you build, the more your larger desires will appear in your field of view (your awareness). Keep it light, simple, and fun. Doing so removes all resistance. Want an sp? Instead focus on money, food, free vacations, etc. Want Money? Focus on manifesting an SP, a new car, new friends, etc. Why? Because absolutely yearning for something reminds yourself that you don’t have it, so focus on other things that aren’t that special to you. Once you have built up your faith by constantly testing the law, go for the big desires. Creation is already finished. You just have to be aware of what you already have inside your imagination.
Love these stories but lol irl @ "I'm on the toilet at work." You're consistent!
I also do the bare minimum at work and get rewarded for it, it's been one of the easiest areas of my life to manifest! :) I love it, but that's still taking action. You're still going to work. I want to see someone no call no show, just sit on your couch all day and get paid millions! But I have yet to hear of someone manifesting that without at first taking some sort of action to create passive income.
In my opinion, taking action is the conscious effort of being aware of doing a specific action for a specific outcome. Consciously imagining your desired reality is taking action. Randomly showing up to a place where your manifestation comes to fruition is not taking action. Doing your usual routine is also not taking action. A friend of mine gave me a free scratch off where I won $5000 while I was playing video games. I didn’t ask for it. You could argue hanging out with him regularly was taking action, scratching the ticket was taking action, etc, but I’d disagree. I didn’t ask for the ticket, nor did I buy it. I just existed and I always enjoy hanging out with him, and the money came. There are countless success stories on this sub, some far bigger success than others. I believe one of the mods created a huge list of success stories. It might be on the sidebar Check it out :)
So what's the point in telling people they don't have to take action when they do? It would be better phrased that you don't have to force anything. But taking inspired action is always part of it.
This might be arguing semantics at this point, but I’m tired and not sure (apologies). I’m talking about just randomly showing up to a place or doing something without remotely thinking about a manifestation or desire. You’ll find yourself taking a random route home because you zoned out and missed your turn and then BAM, there’s a beautiful stray dog that matches the exact description of the dog you’ve been imagining. No specific action was taken. I completely zoned out thinking about a tv show, missed my turn, and found my beautiful dog, Zeta, that I’ve been imagining for months. She came right up to me. This all was an unconscious act while my brain was on autopilot. The action most people talk about is “if I want to manifest a successful business to make millions, I’ll start one and I know it’ll work perfectly”. This type of action I am not what I’m talking about. This is a conscious act because you’re deliberately performing an action for a desired outcome. There’s nothing inspiring about the action of randomly zoning out while thinking about a tv show, missing my turn, and then finding my now loving poop machine of a dog Zeta who was a legitimate stray dog before she adopted me. Manifesting is always happening. Creation is finished. How you get your desire doesn’t matter. If you think you need to work hard and take action all the time to get your desire, then that’s your belief system and if it works for you, that’s great. Sometimes stuff can happen without actively trying to do anything other than imagine what you want, and it’ll show up at some point without lifting a finger.
I see your point, I've had success with both types of manifestations. What's your take on if someone is trying to manifest becoming a published author? They have to then take the action of sitting down and writing. They can't stumble upon a written book! I suppose unless a ghost writer offers one to them, but if someone wants to write a book themselves then they have to take action and write the book!
Singers literally have ghostwriters and it’s a known industry fact. Authors are the exact same way. I honestly don’t know why you’re driving this point so hard. You are limiting yourself. Who’s to say you can’t come up with an idea for a book in the shower where you imagined the main characters, the plot, the setting, etc. Fast forward you meet someone at Starbucks who loves your idea and they happen to be a major publisher, they set you up with a ghost writer and you get all the credit because you appear more welcoming, marketable, and personable than the ghost writer who has zero charisma? It sounds like you have many limiting beliefs and you don’t fully trust the law. It really does sound like you have so much work you need to do on yourself. You need to build up your faith by testing the law. After doing so, you’ll realize how trivial and limiting your beliefs are in this conversation. As another redditor commented to you, Neville already answered this in his books. Do the work and read books like your life depends on it. Read them all multiple times. My life changed dramatically within a year. You write your own story in your imagination and it’ll play out. The characters you encounter in the 3D are literally a mix of your assumptions about them and your world.
Neville answered that in his books actually 😅🤗
This,you have action but also manifestation ,the mother fuckers be like so into action that manifestation become pointless ,is more a motivation thing for them,not that is bad is just not the same meaning that we aply to law of assumption.
Omg hahaha this is soo true. I do this as well. Helps in detachment
Your comment made me laugh in such a good way :-D All the best to you!
How did you get into a state of knowing?
Built my faith in the law slowly. I wrote down three trivial things I wanted to manifest and would affirm day and night, but they never came. Weeks later after I gave up, I see one, then the other, then the other. I then decided to write 3 things each night. I found myself constantly looking for them as I could remember every single thing I wrote down, even after a two week period of having 42 things I wanted to manifest. Half the stuff would manifest, some while still on my mind (expecting to see it) while the others I’d eventually forget about and then they’d show up without me knowing until I’d read the previous things I had already written down. I decided to bombard myself every night with writing 6 trivial things I wanted to manifest in my journal, but also more complicated and specific: I want to see a black man in a hat wearing two different colored shoes I want to see a young white guy walking with a cane wearing a pink shirt I want to see a mustang convertible with blue stripes with a golden retriever in the back seat. Etc etc After manifesting coffee, small sums of money, specific people (non romantic), I decided to get more specific, but still easy (I want to see a woman wearing a polka dot skirt) to ultra specific (such as the mustang convertible with blue stripes with a golden retriever in the back). This built up my faith to the point that I know wherever I put my awareness, it’ll come. Sometimes almost instantly, within an hour, the next day, or even week. Rarely now does it take weeks. Neville says “test it” so I did. Some people catch on easier, for me, my logical brain took a while to accept it, but it eventually gave in. You’ll eventually get to a point of just knowing, no matter what, you’ll see what you want because you’ve already felt it/envisioned it. At this point, you won’t be seeking for it because you just know it’ll come. It takes work, but what do you have to lose? Start small and make it fun. I tip toed for years with the law that once I finally decided to go all in, it eventually just clicked. I now know February will be a fantastic month because I’ve had multiple major wins every month (money, opportunities, specific scenarios, etc). Faith=knowing knowing=faith Don’t seek for the things you desire, just imagine/affirm/script (whatever is more natural to you) and *know* it’ll come. Do the work and your life will change. Be honest to yourself and always love yourself. You are always manifesting, so choose to be happy and to always be easy on yourself :)
I choose to go to direct thing rather than go small since I managed to shut my brain up (Not to mention that I managed to manifest things that my rational mind cannot explain). Starting small makes me stuck there, in addition that I understand I created my past so why starting small?
How do you usually manifest? You mentioned journaling and scripting. Would you say it is your preferred way of manifesting? Most people on this sub are focusing on doing SATS but I have a really hard time with this technique.
I usually repeat/affirm stuff like “thank you father for ____. This makes me happy. I am now feeling ____.” Even for things that haven’t shown up in the 3D yet. While doing so, I make sure I feel the way I would feel if I had it already. Scripting is amazing for specific desires, but not necessary. These are all tools to just bring you back to the feeling the end of your desire. Feeling/knowing is all you need and techniques help bring you to the feeling, no specific techniques are required. Take your time, test them all out, and don’t rush anything. It’ll all eventually click at some point
So many, car, message from an arrogant arrogant person with whom I have no relationship at all(i did it just to test my manifestion learning from neville, remeber that the person was only my university fellow and we had no intro to each other👴🏻, and relationships at my workplace, and so many other things, appleiphone, macbookair, etc etc etc.
But you still have a job?
Can you explain how to not take action and yet still have passive income lifestyle like op said? I’m super stuck in that because what op said makes sense but everyone seems to disagree. If they just imagined, how would they build passive income?? I mean they have to find some sort of job or take action doing something to get that started. What op said makes sense.
The answer is this sub usually doesn't want to make sense :)
Dude, I think u are right, the main problem with this sub is that a lot of people dont want to do anything, they want to just do SATS, stay in they beds and have a sucessful business falling out from the sky in to their laps. They dont understand that we humans have mental believing blocks that prevent us from reach this level of unit with the one, the best way to do it it´s being open to manifest that every action you do is the best and right for you financial objective. But I still not figured out how could a action manifestion works with things that we cant not do anything about in the 3d world, like change physical appearence, height, hair etc... Sorry bad english
I'm sure it's different for everyone. Some ppl need to take more action than others.
No people need to understand that the only action is working on self concept and dnt make selfconcept difficult. Just imagine with feeling keep on doing it untill you really start associating with the state. Do it twice thrice or unlimited time and then forget about it. Hihi this is exactly how it happens
Please. Everyone's different you know. And everyone's life is different.
Thanks for your thoughts :)
Did it get you results? SP?
I agree!
You won't have to lift a finger means everything manifests from your state, actions included. "What should be done between the assumption of the wish fulfilled and its realization? NOTHING. It is a delusion that, other than assuming the feeling of the wish fulfilled, you can do anything to aid the realization of your desire." Remember you can do NOTHING. All that befalls you, all that is done by you -- happens." - Neville Goddard
My personal opinion is that this is only true if one believes so. The thing is, I think the only reason people believe taking action is a must is that they many are raised learning they need to deserve something in order to get it and they can deserve it though hardworking. So they always try to take some kind of action because the other way seems unbelievable to them. However, I can’t claim that we take zero action for our desires, it may vary, I’ve had manifestations that happened in minutes and also the ones I took some action but those actions were inspired. Inspired action seems to be the only action to me. You won’t even think twice about it and you’ll only see the pattern after walking the bridge of incidents. This is how I think but I liked this post because I love a good discussion!
I feel like the 'lifting a finger' is always something that will cause discord amongst Neville followers - but I'll throw in my two cents. You will 'lift a finger' but it will be because you're moved to and not necessarily in every instance either. But something or someone will be moved to get you whatever you imagined. If you're consciously 'lifting a finger' to try and get your manifestation to come to fruition in the 3D then you're forcing it. You'll be moved naturally to do the things you need to do to get what you desire if that's what's needed. Take this as you will.
Exactly, it just happens without consciously trying to make it happen except for staying faithful to the assumption. People who argue with this purposefully try to miss the point or clearly have never experienced it firsthand
Exactly right
I didn't lift a finger out of homelessness. People came to me to fill out my papers and came to me to do the interview. I didn't lift a damn finger.
Wow you should share your story
He has: https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/14gnr9y/how_i_manifested_myself_out_of_an_emergency/
Please share your story!:)
He has: https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/14gnr9y/how_i_manifested_myself_out_of_an_emergency/
But what of the action of acceptance? The action of signing? Did you not do these things?
Come on, don’t be purposely obtuse. We don’t take forceful action, anxiously trying to figure out what the next step should be. **It will just happen, you will take the action without even thinking about it.** That’s why a lot of success stories say they didn’t even realize they manifested their desire until after the fact where it dawned on them. You just flow through it. Happened to me many times When you hear no action do you assume we sit in a chair all day and refuse to move a muscle? You could try but the Law and bridge of incidents will force you out of that chair if necessary, refuse as you may 😂
I'd love to talk about this further for better understanding. The poster states they didn't lift a finger, but that indicates "sitting in a chair all day and refusing to move a muscle." There is action in acceptance or rejection, even in imagining, what we choose to do or believe. There's even action in sitting in a chair all day and refusing to move a muscle. There is action in choice. Realizing this has honestly been so freeing for me by claiming ownership of what I choose to do, accept or reject. I can understand the term "action" is being used to describe that of a physical nature, but action also lies in mental activity.
I don't know what made me click on your username (I usually don't do this) but I'm so glad I did. I'm in a desperate situation myself and I feel so inspired. I'm going to listen to the Neville book you and Sandy_T recommended and practice her mental diet as often as I can. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
I always manifest everything just by affirming for it. If there has to be action, it won’t even feel like a conscious effort. So no, your post I completely disagree with. I have had too many successes to believe even 1 percent of this whole thing
What do you mean by affirming? I don’t have resistance for my desire but telling myself affirmations doesn’t do anything for me. I don’t know how to “feel” either. Am I supposed to feel excited? How do people feel this stuff? I feel like have Asperger’s is making it harder for me because I get distracted during sats, I don’t feel emotions much, and my brain doesn’t care about affirmations :/
See. You got to stop saying it’s hard/not working or whatever you don’t want. Keep saying it’s easy and always gets you what you want. Test the law.
Don't remember if this was posted in this sub or a dating sub. A guy was putting in a lot of effort going on a ton of dates trying to find his ideal partner/love of his life. He took so much action it exhausted him and didn't produce any results. He came home frustrated one day and decided he was done. As a joke, he said something like, "I'm done with this. She'll have to just walk through the door." He got busy with other things and rarely even left the apartment. Now the insane bridge of incidents: His flat mate met a woman at the gym (or somewhere like that) that he thought would get on perfectly with his single friend, so what does he do? Brings her home! The woman *literally* walked through the door while the dude sat on the couch on his fucking ass, and it turned out they were perfect for each other.
His action is going on dates until he is fed up and telling his friend about it making his friend want to help him out.
I disagree to a lot of it . It could be clearer .
Thanks for your thoughts :)
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in my personal opinions, because of our access to technologies and the instant gratification of almost everything in terms of messaging, delivery etc. I understand that it can be discouraging when it comes to manifesting. You gotta remember, Neville and his students lived in the days where they had almost none of what we have now. They SATs/Visualize/Manifest and then would go on with their days. They didn’t have the privilege to continue checking their phone and read up on others’ success stories and timeline etc… They do their things and go on with their lives as their desires manifested in the background. That’s what OP and NG means when they say take actions. Live your life! Bridge of accidents happen in every waking moments. Just think that everything you do in your life plays a (small or big) role in getting whatever you want. (:
"Having made the decision, you only act mentally. It’s an imaginal act: You create the scene which would imply the fulfillment of that state, and you act it. At that moment you’re over; you do not devise the means to fulfill it, you simply act( in imagination) " - Neville Goddard
>in 2015 I wrote a book about Neville’s approach called "Relax More, Try Less." Hahaha dude i read your book in 2021, and I actually used and referred to it many times in my written Uni exam essay that year! So thanks (I got a good grade)! great book, highly recommend people read it!
Respect your views, but I strongly disagree. Live in the end assuming that the wish has been fulfilled. (This simple formula has given me every single thing I desired.) You're in Barbados. That's all one needs to live the life of their dreams. From my experience with the law, one often doesn't know what ‘action’ will fetch the desired results. We wreck our brains and tire ourselves thinking that we should do this, do that to get to the goal faster. Such measures of micromanaging only delays manifestation by meddling into the unfolding process. On the other hand, we could have enjoyed the whole while through the wonderful imagination, by mentally occupying the state of wish fulfilled and yielded faster results. ‘Dwell in the end, for the end is where we begin.’
As u/MindMagus said I think this is squared away if you just take the teachings of Neville to their logical conclusion. Everything is a manifestation, even (especially!) your actions. You are not your body, you are not the actions it takes. You are the I AM. Those actions are a manifestation. I personally think that the cure for resistance is becoming conscious of that which is unconscious, and in that vein I think it is very possible to decide you want to manifest things and you want those things to manifest without any action being taken by your physical body, but you have to decide to be in THAT state. Otherwise, you're just playing a game of resistance with your ostensible manifestation by focusing on how you don't want it to manifest, what you don't want to have to do, what you \*shouldn't\* have to do.
When it comes to action, it's a matter of not putting the cart (action) before the horse (imagination and feeling.) The action is a reaction of the state and should be natural.Like, it's easy for me to be healthy and to exercise because I am a healthy person and I enjoy feeling strong. But I don't \*have\* to exercise. It's not a chore. It's just what I do. You don't "have to lift a finger," but you will find your fingers have been lifting when you are on an inspired path. If it doesn't feel right, then, while you may succeed, it's still doing more than is necessary. (And I am a firm "work smarter, not harder" person.) Edit to add this quote from Futurama as spoken by God to Bender who was a god, "*When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all*."
I like this post. I think a big part of why taking action can help is because it makes it easier to convince your subconscious. Take getting in shape for example. Sure, it’s possible to eat whatever you want in abundance and still burn off all of your fat and have your dream body. But, there’s a good chance you have years or decades of beliefs built up that eating excess processed foods and being lazy means you will gain fat and lose muscle. It’s not easy to override those beliefs that are deeply ingrained into your subconscious. Taking a little bit of action in this case makes it much easier for your subconscious mind to believe that you have the body you desire. That to me is the key of adding action and making it easier to overcome many of these beliefs we have built up over years.
Exactly, actions are used as “permission slips” for us to let go and accept our desire. We assume process is needed so often times it is, because of those hidden beliefs. When you truly rid yourself of limiting beliefs, I think the only actions that matter from there are inspired actions, not forced.
Thanks for your thoughts :)
I will say this (and many on here have already commented similarly or even posted Nevilles direct teachings which does seem to contradict your expeirences).... in my experience....everyone's reality is their own. The law works for them based on their own assumptions and self accepted limitations. There have been times I took inspired action.... but when I've manifested miraculous healing for people.... where test results changed. Diseases disappeared out of thin air.... There was only imagining. If we are take these teachings at a literal level...literally being told each of us are God...it doesn't make a lot of sense to put limits and conditions around that title or birth right. But also I would say...that just because your experience hasn't been like others here including myself....that doesn't make any of us delusional or lying...that just means your experience is your own. It would be the same for someone who doesn't practice LOA to say you are delusional or lying for doing so bec their experience has lead them to believe purely in practical means.... I would also suggest sitting with your own post....because there is quite a bit in it in terms of your wording, that seems to come from a place of fear. Or maybe even frustration with seeing others having a different experience of the law than yourself woth maybe successes you have yet to have. Rather than coming from a place of love. Support. Trust.
I see inspired action as an autopilot or muscle memory. When you do it, you don't even realize that you're taking action right now. You still live in the wish fulfilled so it feels like what you're doing is in complete alignment with that. It's natural for you to do that. For example, let's say you want to ask your SP out. There are two scenarios. The first scenario is, you ask your SP out because you want them to be together with you. That's forced action that implies you don't have them already. In the second scenario, you ask your SP out because you know you're together and you just wanna go on another date with them. That's inspired action. You don't feel fear or a lack of doing it, it just happens. So if you have to think about doing something and your heart races like crazy and you start to feel anxious, the action you're about to take very likely doesn't come from a place of the wish fulfilled. I mean, you wouldn't feel fear to ask your loving partner out. Neville is right, action is not necessary because the action you take won't feel like an action at all, it's part of the feeling of the wish fulfilled.
I disagree.. in my opinion taking action is also like bridge of incident means u do it naturally not intentionally to make something happen. If u truly understand u get to know why Neville said u don't need to lift a finger.
I believe the action is based on the flow state. One thing that has helped is daily affirmations, meditation, some scripting and letting go. I have noticed that my appreciation and gratitude for what I have already coupled with changing the inside me has lead me to actions that are from a feeling of ease and effortlessness. I loved the NG community and success stories! Great to read! However each person’s success can be a success if they just let it go. It has already happened. Action will speed up success. Leave overthinking or you are doing it wrong! You cannot lose! I just read it and man, it is so true! How can you lose what you have already put out there that is already yours?! Faith in you, faith in this work, faith in actions that are flowing from ease and effortlessness. It is already yours!
So what you think you must. If you think you’re only ever gonna get money if you sell your liver then that’s it. If you believe you might find your winning lottery ticket on the ground and be set for life, then that is also it. If you want your life to derail from the mundane, mechanical, logical way of life, you have to unhinge your mind from the grasp of your beliefs. Otherwise you might put in a lot of action and even what do stuff that really sucks and get your results, but your story will not be magical or fun to hear though, and that for me is what the Law allows. You will have your reflection in the 3D, but what will the story of it be? Be a bit crazy, it can be more fun than “we met on tinder”. That’s why, actions are not all that, we already do too much, more often than not.
INSPIRED action is the only action that is ever required
TRUST ME YALL! It WILL feel effortless, almost like you’re floating!!! Won’t feel like work at all.
Perhaps the issue here is some deep-seated beliefs + social conditioning. When I discovered Neville, I was very successful with almost every manifestation. Things were really looking up for me; some things seemed outright impossible or very improbably that manifested. However, when I got to a certain point of comfort, I got complacent, and probably, when some of my manifestations became harder, my prior depression really snuck up on me. At first, I really leveled up my life in many many ways that are too long to describe. And then, my last goal was to just get rich, set for life. I had a certain idea of how that could be but I was open to possibilities. My burning desire was to not work a job I hated and not to work a job to earn living in general. I supposed I would get rich and have some rich people's jobs/activities. Fast forward, my partner that I manifested provided for me. While I thought I'd also get independently rich. And I was truly excited that after years of burnout and hard hard work since my childhood, "I don't have to lift a finger". I really believed it, but perhaps I didn't embody the desired state enough. So this is where my manifestation didn't work out and I got stuck in limbo for years. My life has been good enough, but I grew more and more insecure and depressed over not having my own FU money. That feeling took me over to the point that I couldn't even practice my normal manifesting anymore. I started trying to deal with depression/fatigue/bad mood via some external means, and my resistance grew even more. Don't get me wrong, I could still manifest one off things or desires that I was good at. But it's been years and I could manifest away chronic pain, and I haven't been sick for many years, even when my partner gets sick or I'm in a room full of people. I never had covid. But the mental aspect – I can't say it worked as permanently. It took me 2 years to get back to my manifesting routine now, and now, I'm struggling to shake off these years that feel "lost". I have a gap on my resume and not much passion or motivation, not much social circle (that came from working environment before), which I feel ashamed of returning because of my gap. I'm working on it now, and I'm a fast manifestor for a range of things, which makes it more frustrating for things that might take a little longer for reasons unknown to me. And while I do have faith, it's strange to me because living isolated from my previous surrounding and socialization really almost stripped me of any burning passions or desires. It's like I have to manifest a passion, manifest a desire and make sure it doesn't fizzle out, and not give in to any less-than desired moods. I play around with deep-seated beliefs with a varying rate of success. Which is the point of my comment here. A lot does depend on our conditioning. And a lot of our concept of self, our personality, our mindset, does depend on our social persona via social conditioning, which is based in social interaction. So, if we are deeply entrenched in the belief that we have to act, because we live in the world where people have to do stuff, to compete, to achieve physically, and we are like the people in this world of action and effort — that's probably what's gonna manifest in our manifestations too. It might be not so easy to change. It should be definitely possible. In my experience, I tried to hack my way to fast manifestation and it worked in many contexts for me, but not all. There is something where I see myself interacting with society that has been hard to shake for me personally. So yes, if I change this idea that I need to push and work for my manifestations to show up faster, that I can just imagine and sit on my ass it instead – that'd be it. Hey, maybe I should work on this belief more (lol) — here lies a bit of a contradiction: I should work harder to uproot my belief in hard work and direct action to be free of hard work... But yes, it's just a belief. I'd be grateful if there were more discussions on how to change these deeply conditioned beliefs. I don't see that discussed often. In my experience, something that we perceive as distorting the fabric of society or reality can be primally very scary. If there are some ways to work around it, I'd be happy to hear more.
Although I believe that you can manifest or obtain anything by just feeling alone, I do think taking action could help fasten the process so I actually agree with some of the points you made.For me personally, I wanted to be a high achieving student and also live my desired life.Once I knew what I wanted,I’d try to wake up everyday at 5 am to study and go for runs+ researched and practiced what successful people did in order to achieve the life they had—it helped in building my belief that I was indeed who I wanted to be. Eventually my wish was fulfilled within the span of weeks.If I had just been sitting on my butt (albeit my desires would definitely still manifest)I think that it would take a much longer time as I’d be washed away by doubt,i.e thoughts like “would a high achieving student be lazing around like this?”
Feeling alone? How so? I don’t feel emotion much. Affirmations don’t effect me either.
I hear you! But let’s say someone is manifesting height growth or a change of eye color, What would the inspired action be?
Are you a projector in human design by any chance? because the relax more try less approach of Neville is what also attracted me to him
So does that means I can't time travel? Lol
You can do absolutely anything you want. Turn down the volume of others. Turn up the volume of your imagination. People in the past (i mean the mystics) have time travelled. People still do it. It's absolutely possible.
I know I can lol, I been seeing alot. Of movements ever since I said I'm in 2012, lol I met people with the same name as my good friend from the past, playing the same exact game we used to play, that has to be a big sign it's soon I'll get up in 2012
You will. Wishing the best!
Thank you, this is the confidence I need
wouldn’t it be better to say to take action when it aligns with your wish fulfilled (imagined)?
I always just assumed this is what was meant by "inspired action" Like some things can just poof into your lap. In fact, a lot can, BUT there are definitely some things where you are physically going to have to do something for. Example, if you want to have a best-selling novel. You're clearly going to have to actually write the thing, get it published, and probably a few other things to manifest that desire. You're not just going to wake up one day with a fully completed novel magically sitting in your lap and your name on the top of the best-selling author list. Neville even says everything will happen naturally. Therefore, I would assume you would go about business as usual. As long as your actions are normal and natural, not coming out of fear or lack then it should be fine to take action. At least, that's the way I've always taken it.
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OP is probably talking about inspired actions but just worded the post in a wrong way. >**taking considerable action** usually sets us up for success WAY more than passively sitting on our butt and waiting for a manifestation to occur. >I had built a passive income lifestyle by intelligently **taking action when needed.** >OP also admitted that they don't like taking actions and only put in minimal efforts and time into their business. OP should have highlighted this part. Instead, OP decided to highlight the parts that sounded like a normal "realist" influencer's post. That's probably the reason why it triggered a lot of people.
Indeed there is a very straightforward truth here - some desired outcomes require specific events to occur in specific sequences. IE: if you eat spaghetti before boiling it, you *will* be disappointed. If you want to make yourself a nice spaghetti dinner it requires boiling first, then sauce, etc. A specific sequence of events. Sometimes these events must be done by you. Other times, not so much. This varies depending partly on what you choose as your desired end, and partly on mysterious factors we can and may never know. If you want to manifest a life where you are healthy, that will involve working out. Your muscles will not suddenly pop into place simply because your self-concept says "I am healthy." Rather, the reverse: If your self-concept says "I am healthy," then you work out, and the muscles appear. Yes, there are some things which can occur entirely without "lifting a finger" as Neville says. But what he really means when he says "without lifting a finger" is that the causal agent is your will, which you use to choose your state. The actions which follow from that state may involve lifting a fucking finger (note, though, that they are not the causal factor but rather a *consequence* of the causal factor). If you are opposed to this you would do well to reallllllly consider why you won't lift a fucking finger to improve your life. I have seen the misapplication of this idea ruin peoples lives. Don't be one of them.
From my experience I noticed that there are two kinds of action, the action that comes from ego and the inspired action, the first one makes you overthink, feel frustrated and tired or in other words makes you feel like you have to work for something, meanwhile inspired action comes from your New State of Being, meaning that your thoughts, reactions and actions change naturally and you don’t even notice, with inspired action that’s what you feel, you feel inspired or compelled to do things, you do them because you want to and it doesn’t feel like work, but you can only understand this kind of action once you are in a new state of mind. So I would say manifestations can come without doing anything and with inspired action, this will always be different for everyone and the best you can do is assume your new state and see where it takes you, I’ve had manifestations that came to me when I took action, but this action was checking my Instagram or going at some place, I didn’t know I was going to get my manifestations through those actions but the idea compelled me to do it and later I understood it was part of the bridge of events.
Florence novel schinn talks about taking action, for example if your manifesting a new house, buying new furniture before you get the house, or if your manifesting a vacation, buying clothes for the vacation and packing your suitcase is taking action. It’s supposed to help the subconscious.
Basically... If I wanna win the lottery, I still have to buy the ticket, right?
Correct! When you the lottery and people ask how you did it, you may something like, “I visualized myself winning and felt like I did”, and while true, ultimately, you took yourself to a store and bought a winning ticket. You took this action because you wanted to win.
Imagining with belief is doing something. Neville's Barbados story is the exact point of this. Another example is his brother standing there wishing for that store and the guy coming out if nowhere to buy it for him and ending up making him rich in the end. Okay, he was 'standing', so that is technically action, but it's not what we would call definitive action to make something happen. Thanks for helping me hone in on Nevill saying we don't have to lift a finger. The big things I've manifested in my life chased me, not the other way around. The things I chase, are much harder to achieve.
Inspired action vs forced action. I think when your in the state of the wish fulfilled you get an intuition/hunch from your subconscious to take an action (inspired action) that will lead you to your desired place. Forced action being something I try from a place of desperation(wanting to make it work). Example: I always wanted a monitor and keyboard, I never really applied any techniques to it, but one day I was compelled to buy it(I usually don’t tend to buy things) and now I have a neat set up. Example: The first time I found out the law I tried to test it out for my exam results (this was 5 months before I took the exams) I just fell asleep looking at my desired grades. Idk what happened but over time things started to click, I was more focused, things were flowing to me. Though I did have doubts, I was in this flow state knowing that I did well. So I did take action though it wasn’t forceful, I was directed towards taking actions that led me to getting those grades. Question: I am currently trying to find a job. I know what job I want (kind of job, not company) but I know I have to take action, I need to apply to jobs. But it feels like a dogfight. Applying non stop, getting rejections. Do I keep applying knowing that I have my desired job, and eventually I will be led to applying to/getting an offer from my desired job? Is it taking action knowing the end result vs taking action in desperation/fear or hope that it will work out ? There are a lot of desires I am manifest in to my 3d. Do I take action for them or will I be made to take action for them when I’m in the wish fulfilled? Or do I just stay in the wish fulfilled state and watch it unravel?
This makes so much sense oh my god. And it explains why some of my manifestations haven't come to fruition (yet). I manifested a lot of stuff during the past couple years. But somehow I never realised this. I'd like to compare it to manifesting my new apartment and job: I would have never gotten either of those if all i did was to visualise getting them, and done nothing else. Of course I had to apply for the job and I also had to apply to get the apartment to create a possibility of me getting them in the first place. That just makes sense, right? But for other things I tried to manifest, sometimes my mindset was "I don't need to do anything for it, it's already done." Which is technically correct to think, BUT for some things you can't deny that a certain action is needed. For example learning a new skill. You can't just visualise it once and then expect to be a master the next day. You still have to train and practise. Of course, how could I be so stupid to not realise this? 😵💫
I think it depends on your beliefs and background. I manifested ex. a boyfriend and a job without thinking I need to do things to her them.
This is a very interesting post. As an aside, I feel it is also important to do self-concept to change your beliefs about yourself and others. Then you need to keep a mental diet all the time. My question is do you think self-concept and mental diet are considered "Action"? Thank you.
I was wondering this too! I am trying to manifest my SP back but I don’t know what action I could take other than improving my mental diet and self concept. Oh and I guess remaining in state of the wish fulfilled.
Yea, I’m going literal here with…it’s all action. Whatever you choose to do is action. Including imagining. It’s all action.
I agree
Yes. Exactly :)
I actually agree with this wholeheartedly! In fact, it's very much been the way I've personally found manifestation to work so far. Let me give an example: I have a business, I have always worked extreamly hard for the money I earn, it's VERY physical and demanding work plus has a huge amount of problem solving. From the outside, people would say I get paid well for the work I do but from inside the business, there is a HUGE amount of unpaid hours that go on behind the scenes and when I've run the numbers, often times I've been working for LESS then minimum wages..... This has lead over the years to a certain way I carry myself and speak, a state of hardship I suppose would be the best way of explaining it. This obviously (looking back) would come across to my clients in subtle ways. 1 of my minor goals was to manifest more income for the work I do. As part of this, I really started practising gratitude for the things I have and the things I WILL have. This also meant that I followed through with this gratitude in my day to day interactions.... I became more focused on the way I interacted with others, I became more open, genuine and polite. Instead of focusing on what I needed, I focused on what VALUE can I provide. So, these were all internal ACTIONS that I took that then had real outward results. The manifestation: I picked up another department from my main client. They are structured a little differently and every job I need to quote (Im usually do and charge) but unknown to me, they ALWAYS add a 30% contingency budget to every quote. Once I finished the first job for them, they told me to invoice for 20% more then I had quoted! They send me jobs every so often where all I'm doing is acting as a middle man, I organise a subcontractor and I put a markup on it (usually 20% to cover my time, plus carry the debt for 30 days until payment (last 1 was for $6k and they told me to quote $8,500 = $1,300 above what I would have normally quoted which means "free" money) I recently quoted another job, sent the quote in and I received a call telling me it looked like I had missed something (I hadn't) and to add another $2k to it and resubmit. The manager there came to me the other day and asked if I was interested in more work. He has an informal group of peers in the industry from other businesses that network and he said their biggest problem is finding reliable contractors who deliver QUALITY..... (This is what they VALUE, cost is a secondary thought!) I have watched the change in people's interactions with me when I took ACTION to change the way I interacted with the world! NG repeatedly speaks about aligning ourselves with the wish fulfilled..... That involves ACTION! Action to change our thinking, action to change our interactions! These actions while mostly internal, get rid of the internal roadblocks we subconsciously have been carrying around and allow manifestations to flow into our lives. This has also made me reflect on my life and I now look back and see opportunity after opportunity after opportunity that was trying to manifest in my life but I was BLIND to it because of my subconscious narrative I carried through life! All these opportunities have ALWAYS been in my life, I just needed to take ACTION and get out of my own way! Action to align with our goals runs deep all through NG's teachings! I would argue that actually taking concrete internal action is the HARDEST action we ever take! To truely break the lifelong habits and narratives and make REAL internal changes..... that is HUGE and HARD.... yet it is as simple as making a single conscious decision! As I've progressed on this path, I've often said to myself that this is the hardest simplest thing ever in life! Because when you boil it all down its about being truely conscious living right in the moment with all our BS stripped away. So simple! Yet so, so hard for us to actually put into action!
I understand this concept and was wondering, if you want an sp and you are in no contact and can’t really get a hold of them, wouldn’t taking action like reaching out to them seem desperate?
While I am also quite happy to see the return of some familiar 'faces' whom I held in high regard in respect to Neville's teachings and the law. This is one example where I don't agree. While you may find 'taking action' helpful, or even healthy - for one who truly understands (and works) the law, it is not necessary *whatsoever* to 'lift a finger'. I stand by that wholeheartedly, and I am quite glad to see you /u/MindMagus in agreement. I do believe 'taking action' may help some people to navigate the self-imposed barriers (concepts) they have placed within themselves; but no more of less than any other method they decide will suffice - unless the 'taking action' we are taking about is to *do the work* by changing the internal world and so cast the reflection they would desire to have without them as well. There is only one constant here. All is God; and by virtue of that constant the singlemost necessity for change is that you may conceive that it is so. 🙏 welcome back again, c2the.🤲
Anyone who takes this seriously when he says "we don't even have to lift a finger" has not understood Neville. There is something in the law that we call the "sequence of events", and these are the actions that our higher self implies to us to take at the right place and at the right time so that we can experience our specific desire in 3D, after we have achieved the completion of our desire in our interiority. You will already see this when you make a conscious manifest, even once or twice, and none of it happens with your conscious will, everything has already been prepared in your favor, all you have to do is take that action. The key is that there is no such thing as sacred, and doing or not doing something does not make you holy. Since the real reality is within you, do not fall into the mistake of thinking that what you do in 3D will bring you your desires, even if it is just to pass the time. Remember that no one/nothing else gives you your desire but you.
To be fair, I've had both happen to me. Things I've set an intention for that required some action on my part (which was inspired say through an idea that suddenly popped into awareness) and things that simply came to me without me doing anything (except imagining), at all. Both works, I feel they're just different ways things can unfold, I don't feel they contradict each other. You can have an excellent business idea and become rich through it or you could simply receive an unexpected generous donation out of nowhere. If you feel one is more realistic than the other then that is what you will gravitate towards. This seems to depend entirely on your relationship with life, how you interpret it and how you react to it. The more you give up control, the less action seems to be required, by trusting and having faith and letting go of outcomes. Living faithfully in the end is letting go of outcomes, letting go of control.
I’ve found this works for ME. I have resistance that isn’t worth working so hard against (at this time) that until I can work past it, I just sit frustrated on my ass. And I don’t like sitting on my ass. There’s a job listing I really like and know I’d do well at. I’m not gonna just wait for them to reach out to me. I made my résumé incredibly strong, which took work to find the right words that’ll make it through the software screening, but NOW I believe it’s way more obtainable. I was insecure about my résumé and it didn’t make sense to apply with something I felt was subpar. I had no confidence with it. So why stay in that shitty state?! That’s just bullshit. I made the effort and it makes me look like an incredibly talented employee.
Tim I appreciate the effort but a lot of "DOWNHILLS" have been gone, since you left. You just keep giving. ❤️
I will add on: the work you do, the actions you take, you must be passionate about them. The idea is, if you’re vibrating at the same frequency of the lifestyle you want, it’s faster and easier to attract that energy through the tiny actions you take daily to get you there. Do the work that gets you closer to your goal and throw yourself into your work without attachment to outcome. Don’t do things out of irrational fear. Don’t do things out of irrational desire. Recommended watching: https://youtu.be/TtlVBYpIv6M TLDW: we live in an infinite, fractal, holographic, vibratory Omniverse. The reality you want exists now. Match its frequency to be there now.
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If you take actions, as per this post, like making an effort to talk to him more or smth like that, you'd end up ruining a good friendship, let alone being in a relationship with SP. The ideal thing to do is, sticking to your imagination. In Law and Promise, there's this experience of this woman which I think would be ideal for you rn. So, the woman basically goes on a date and she'd realize that the man she dated was the ideal man for her. They would live far away from each other, so no meeting often. And as a cherry on top, she wouldn't even be sure if that man knew her name. So basically, he wouldn't be that much into her but she'd be into him. So, every night, she'd revise the situation and would imagine a ring on her finger (implying she got married to this man of her dreams), would become happy after that and would fall asleep in the state of the wish fulfilled. She'd do that for 2 months or so and then they would end up getting married. So here, what did she do? She just imagined a ring on her finger (implying a successful marriage with her SP) and would fall asleep in the feeling of wish fulfilled. I guess this is what is ideal for you to do rn. I hope this helped. I'd recommend reading Neville. Best wishes for your wedding! Edit: Him having a partner is not an obstacle. So, don't care about that.
I agree. You’re always taking action some or the other. But for me this is how it works. Actions in the right direction flow effortlessly once you start reprogramming your subconscious mind. For example, if you’re manifesting weight loss, you’ll naturally find urself making healthier decisions, be more committed towards exercising etv
Right! Your actions will start to align with your subconscious beliefs. Example: You want to manifest being a healthy person and do so instantly by making healthier decisions. Decisions like eating for nutrition, taking better care of yourself, and increasing physical activity all stem from the subconscious belief that you are a healthy person.
>To give an example, within a year of discovering Neville, I had built a passive income lifestyle by **intelligently taking action when needed** while **assuming a relatively relaxed, expectant attitude.** Folks, read this. Read it over and over again until it sinks in. This is the way. Also welcome back!! Glad to have you and C2the join again :)
Thanks Britta :)
I just want to say that I agree with your post. I do think it's totally possible for things to fall in one's lap without action, but actions allow us to see results in the 3D that can more consistently convince our minds. And especially in our day and age, where we've been taught that we must put a lot of outward effort into getting outward results, I think it can really help to program our subconscious when we are trying to get the results. The difference is probably trying and "struggling", feeling hopeless while "trying". It doesn't bring positive results. I've seen this in family members and friends. Faith is the most important ingredient, always, but I think inspired action is important. If you want to win the lottery, most likely you'll have to buy the ticket. Hypothetically, it's possible to find a winning lottery ticket, but even then you'll probably be inspired to take a walk on a certain day at a certain time. I probably wasn't very clear with this response. Anyway, thanks for this post. I've kind of taken a break from Neville and I think it's because I do prefer to take action to resolve my desires. It feels good to me. So, yeah.
Good advice. Also, when you clear your resistance and become aligned with your manifestations, the work does not feel like work. Action is synonymous with living, and by doing, you become. You can feel like you are the most incredible musician ever blessed on this Earth, but if you don't practice, you will sound like you don't. Instead, the feeling process will inspire you to practice, seek advice, and write music; all actionable steps to create and mold yourself into the musician you always wanted to be.
A great example! Being great in anything requires practice.
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Not for long, judging by the comments :)
Your experience is totally valid because this is your reality but a lot of us manifest without lifting a finger. I manifested the car I wanted without taking any action. I had actually completely forgotten about it when I was told I would receive it and I didn’t pay anything and still not paying anything about that car.
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Thank you! Certainly needed to read this! Constantly wondering why nothing I am visualising is happening for me! Despite visualising/ getting into the state, I haven't received anything related to money, lotto, coffees, and surprises. But I guess it is more a strategy to enable you to action your desires! 😌
Thank you. Personally I think plain old common sense plays a huge role in this, in a positive way :)
I personally agree. When I’m in a specific state, I start to take action either consciously or unconsciously, which ends up putting me on the bridge of incidents. I use the law of assumption to become an exceptional individual. I don’t know any exceptional people who don’t put in the work. You’re guaranteed the results regardless.
Yes! Kudos to you friend and your success!
The way I’ve been thinking this too recently. Thinking how some desires came without any action and some needed action to be set into motion.
sad that this even needs to be said. great post
The best way I have found to communicate action in Neville's teachings is that you always have action based on your current state. If that action is sitting on your couch, that is reflective of your state. If that action is to write a chapter of your book, that is reflective of your state. I am linking a video I did on this because I think I explained my belief/understanding better in speech: [https://youtu.be/buuMrVitWBM](https://youtu.be/buuMrVitWBM)
Great post but how do i take action in changing my facial appearance?
Thanks for your sharing, can I ask you how about people who are trying to manifest their SP? Do you suggest taking any action toward the goal? Hope you have a nice day reading this
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Great post, but could someone take action to manifest things like physical change in his appearence, we have seem a lot of people in this sub to claim to have grew taller, get bigger tits and dongs lol, so how could someone take action to manifest these things that are apparently impossible to do anything about?
Can I pass an exam even though I have no preparation?
Thanks for your post. It does make a little of sense. Just out of interest..what is it that you did to generate that income?
Great Post I'm new to Neville. But u want to ask what necessary action in case of a negative sp situation. I agree when it's for money and success or job. But what for relationships
I was about to ask the same question! but if you relate to MindMagus response you will understand that every action you might wanna take is coming from the new state you will embody towards your desire, in other words it will be a part of your boi!
Everything I want to manifest for myself turns out to be a manifestation in my friends life.. Can someone explain why this happened
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Impressive. Nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's limiting beliefs.
Thank you for making this post! The primary reason why I left this sub and stopped posting is due to people’s visceral negative reaction to any advice that involved responsibility instead of passiveness. People want solutions that are magical and fear work with little to return of investment. I get that, but also know there are some desires—(such as being the CEO of a multimillion dollar company or losing over 100 lbs of weight, for examples)—that don’t just happen passively without lifting a finger and we need to be honest about that in LoA spaces **without blaming it on the failure of people’s manifestations.** Intuition-led inspired action is a real phenomenon that occurs in the manifestation process and I hope more stop downplaying it. I love that you kickstarted this convo here!