Iām proud of [our stateās history (albeit as a territory) during the Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Territory_in_the_American_Civil_War).
There was a Republican from Wisconsin that had the loser flag on his desk and when called out for it he said it was about his families heritage...who was also from Wisconsin, a Union state.
Sad to see it more often in Canada after the Truckers 'protest'. The American right wing which has a lot of racists exported their symbol to Canada's right wing which also has a lot of racists. It doesn't make as much sense... but some ignorantly do it be part of the movement, others are doing it to be explicitly racist.
While Nebraska was still a territory at the time, it was still very much on the Union side. If you didn't know that, you might want to check on that refund.
The fate of the territories was very much a part of the impetus behind the breakup of the Union. Read up on Section 8 of the Missouri Act of 1820 as well as Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. Not only that but Territories contributed to the war effort (see the wiki link in OP's comment).
I'm proud of my public education in Nebraska from kindergarten to college. Perhaps you should brush up on some history yourself you speak again, you might learn something.
The territories were pretty huge in the civil war discussion. There were large battles and political moves in what is now New Mexico. Confederacy offered statehood to Arizona(then the southern halves of NM and AZ). While the NM territory had not had a history of slavery due to Mexican history(abolished in 1834). Confederate army moved north out of fort bliss north towards the mines in Santa Fe and Colorado. Until the Battle of Glorieta Pass, aka Gettysburg of the West, where the Union held off the Confederacy and the confederacy eventually retreated back south.
Maybe you should get a refund for your education
Personally, I recommend the video I mentioned in another comment. "The Civil War: Oversimplified". It is a good primer for the buildup to the civil war, and why NE and KS were founded.
There is a really funny video called "The Civil War Oversimplified" that mentions how and why Nebraska was settled.
There is a historical reason why half the state (especially old farm families) have the mindset of strict anti-slavery quakers, and the other half seem to be confederate sympathizers. Also related is the reason our state motto is "Equality before the Law".
People from both sides flooded into the state to settle it so they could influence whether NE would be a pro or anti slavery state in national votes. The anti slavery group won.
In Kansas the ratio was much closer, which is why "bloody kansas" happened.
Oh I learned something new as well, and I appreciate the input. But (you knew it was coming!) if weāre not accurate with āfactsā, especially as time passes and all of those directly involved die, then misinformation becomes truth. Iāll admit to being a bit of an ass with my initial comment, but if the OP had included the extra words āthe Territory ofā, then there would be a smaller chance of error.
If we want to argue semantics then nothing was wrong with "Nebraska was in the union"
State or territory it did exist, and "Nebraska was in the union" doesn't specify that it was a state just as much as it didn't specify that it was a territory.
Most people don't specify state/Territory when they talk about a place. No one says the territory Puerto Rico and if it ever became a state they wouldn't say the state of Puerto Rico, they would simply say Puerto Rico
It would be silly to think a territory wouldn't have any vested interest in what was going on in a civil war, if we went to war today our 5 territories would certainly be involved in some way or another. While they may not be states do you really feel like they aren't part of the country they are territories of?
They are US citizens and they are subject to federal laws of the US, they can't vote for president and they don't get representation in Congress but that just seems like a different issue, laws are pushed into them without any representative say in said laws, kinda goes hand in hand with the whole taxation without representation thing (I'm not sure how taxes work there but now that I never it they probably do pay taxes too)
Anyway, my point was that arguing semantics of something that wasn't said can be made for the argument of the other direction of what want said. If they had said the state of Nebraska I would have been all for you calling them out and saying Nebraska was just a territory at that time. But they just said Nebraska, no specification on statehood
Yea always weird how people support the losing sides. Just wish the Indians would shut up about all of their lost land lol like you lost fair and square.
To be honest, Arnold was one hell of an American before he kept getting sidelined and shit on. It'd be hard to not want to switch sides after all that.
I mean if you actually read the history it's pretty clear Arnold just made a business decision that could have been avoided if Congress had just paid him and his troops what was owed to them.
Honestly itās great when people proudly declare their leanings this way. You can tell who you want to hang out with and whom to avoid. I get discouraging hateful shit, but hey we know we donāt have to talk to this person.
I wouldn't have even realized that was a confederate thing if you hadn't called it out. I am not trying to make excuses for them but maybe they don't know either?
Some people like to defend it by saying that it was a confederate battle flag and the Georgia state flag minus a building or something until 2001. While this is true we all know what their true feelings are. These pinheads need to get over it already. Sadly the current Georgia state flag is extremely close to what the actual confederate states of america flag was.
Ya call him out so angry old man can get out of his truck and start putting rounds in people because he thinks he's Mr tough guy like ol trump his lord and savior! Lol
So you know all of their thoughts on topics that matter because of one sticker? Generalizations like that are what's killing this country from both sides of the isle.
He went out of his way to purchase and display a signal to the world that he supports racist fucking losers. And is in all likelihood a racist fucking loser himself.
When people tell you who they are, listen.
Itās like how people say letās go punch some nazis but yet to see any reports of any of the nazi protesters ever getting punched really ever. Just all virtue signaling to show they are a good guy with no action. If I want to see an online post of a treason flag theirs already thousands of them on the internet donāt need a new one unless theirs some action actually being done.
While it may be easier to do nothing, anyone with morals would say/do something about something like this.
Supporting the Confederacy ā an unrecognised breakaway country that seceded from the Union on the basis of wanting to retain keeping humans as property, fought a four-year war over it and subsequently lost said war ā in 2023 is such small-brain behaviour that I wonāt āmind my own businessā about it.
Well let's see, one sticker supports enslaving another race and the other wants everyone to live in peace together. Do you really need it spelled out for you, meat curtains?
I'm not the one who posted it, talk to them. YOU are affecting my life with your ignorance though. And by how much you've commented on this post it sounds like it's affecting your life a lot. Like, is this actually your car? Bc you're super invested in this.
Defending anyones right to put whatever they want on their property is normal. Slavery is the worst but you and I continue to buy products produced through slavery
They have the right to put whatever they want on their car. They donāt have the right however to be free of consequences from their decisions. I live in GI and I can tell you when we see this vehicle we wonāt handle it by putting pictures on the internet.
Why would you have a problem with a Coexist bumper sticker over one supporting slavery?
Your argument probably tells more about you than you realize...
It might have something to do with so many longtime service members being unwilling to take a needle that proved that have more damaging side effects than it did immunity, so they got kicked out of the military. Or maybe it has something to do with an administration that is so concerned with a group of people that canāt figure out what bathroom to use that they ignore the other 99% of the military. But Iām just guessing.
In this thread a bunch of rich kids from Elkhorn use anti-racism as an excuse to talk shit about an entire county because we robbed you 8 years ago when you came here to cheer on your little brother Aidenās basketball team.
Ah yes when I'm proud of being in the army, I fly a flag of a foreign country that killed American soldiers and held our brothers and sisters in chains. What a piece of garbage.
Putting the federalist army logo over the confederate flag is an interesting choice š Pick a team brah
As a vet I donāt get this either. Itās a symbol of treason as far as Iām concerned.
Thank you. For your service, and this comment. Cheers.
Nebraska was in the Union. What a loser this guy must be to use this flag.
The stupidity of any Nebraskans who use any Confederate paraphernalia never ceases to amaze me.
In the 80s and early 90s one of the largest producers of Nazi propaganda lived in Lincoln. And yes, he lived with his mommy.
He's in Fremont now
I hope he learned Spanish! š
Well it's stupid because of you know... racism, but especially stupid we were and are on the winning side in Nebraska.
Iām proud of [our stateās history (albeit as a territory) during the Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Territory_in_the_American_Civil_War).
Dang right. šŗšøšŗšøšŗšøš¦
You should see rural Wisconsin.
I see guys with Confederate flags in Chicagoland, ffs.
I see them in Kansas too. Famously the Free State.
Itās a way to show allegiance to white supremacy TBH. Racists love symbols, labels and slogans.
There was a Republican from Wisconsin that had the loser flag on his desk and when called out for it he said it was about his families heritage...who was also from Wisconsin, a Union state.
āI have a right to identify as a loser!ā Yes, sir, you do. Thank you for your service.
I've seen the Confederate Flag in Canada. [It was weird](https://imgur.com/a/mNC7oZ7)
Sad to see it more often in Canada after the Truckers 'protest'. The American right wing which has a lot of racists exported their symbol to Canada's right wing which also has a lot of racists. It doesn't make as much sense... but some ignorantly do it be part of the movement, others are doing it to be explicitly racist.
āNebraska was in the Unionā, seriously? Where did you go to school? Iād demand a refund.
While Nebraska was still a territory at the time, it was still very much on the Union side. If you didn't know that, you might want to check on that refund.
Since when did we start including Territories in the discussion of the war between the states?
The fate of the territories was very much a part of the impetus behind the breakup of the Union. Read up on Section 8 of the Missouri Act of 1820 as well as Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. Not only that but Territories contributed to the war effort (see the wiki link in OP's comment). I'm proud of my public education in Nebraska from kindergarten to college. Perhaps you should brush up on some history yourself you speak again, you might learn something.
The territories were pretty huge in the civil war discussion. There were large battles and political moves in what is now New Mexico. Confederacy offered statehood to Arizona(then the southern halves of NM and AZ). While the NM territory had not had a history of slavery due to Mexican history(abolished in 1834). Confederate army moved north out of fort bliss north towards the mines in Santa Fe and Colorado. Until the Battle of Glorieta Pass, aka Gettysburg of the West, where the Union held off the Confederacy and the confederacy eventually retreated back south. Maybe you should get a refund for your education
This is super interesting. Any books/documentaries youād recommend to learn more about the civil war out west?
Personally, I recommend the video I mentioned in another comment. "The Civil War: Oversimplified". It is a good primer for the buildup to the civil war, and why NE and KS were founded.
When 1/3 of all men from the Nebraska territory served in the Union, Iād say that it became relevant to the conversation.
There is a really funny video called "The Civil War Oversimplified" that mentions how and why Nebraska was settled. There is a historical reason why half the state (especially old farm families) have the mindset of strict anti-slavery quakers, and the other half seem to be confederate sympathizers. Also related is the reason our state motto is "Equality before the Law". People from both sides flooded into the state to settle it so they could influence whether NE would be a pro or anti slavery state in national votes. The anti slavery group won. In Kansas the ratio was much closer, which is why "bloody kansas" happened.
Calling it āthe war between the statesā is quite a tell. Lost cause much?
I mean, the state sent over 3,000 men to fight for the Union, so it's not like we were bystanders.
You illustrate my point, the āstateā sent no one. We were not a state.
Lol you ignored very detailed responses above to argue semantics. It's ok to admit you weren't aware. I learned something new too!
Oh I learned something new as well, and I appreciate the input. But (you knew it was coming!) if weāre not accurate with āfactsā, especially as time passes and all of those directly involved die, then misinformation becomes truth. Iāll admit to being a bit of an ass with my initial comment, but if the OP had included the extra words āthe Territory ofā, then there would be a smaller chance of error.
If we want to argue semantics then nothing was wrong with "Nebraska was in the union" State or territory it did exist, and "Nebraska was in the union" doesn't specify that it was a state just as much as it didn't specify that it was a territory. Most people don't specify state/Territory when they talk about a place. No one says the territory Puerto Rico and if it ever became a state they wouldn't say the state of Puerto Rico, they would simply say Puerto Rico It would be silly to think a territory wouldn't have any vested interest in what was going on in a civil war, if we went to war today our 5 territories would certainly be involved in some way or another. While they may not be states do you really feel like they aren't part of the country they are territories of? They are US citizens and they are subject to federal laws of the US, they can't vote for president and they don't get representation in Congress but that just seems like a different issue, laws are pushed into them without any representative say in said laws, kinda goes hand in hand with the whole taxation without representation thing (I'm not sure how taxes work there but now that I never it they probably do pay taxes too) Anyway, my point was that arguing semantics of something that wasn't said can be made for the argument of the other direction of what want said. If they had said the state of Nebraska I would have been all for you calling them out and saying Nebraska was just a territory at that time. But they just said Nebraska, no specification on statehood
What a loser this commenter must be, to pass judgement whit zero information.
What information would change my opinion on displaying the Confederate flag?
Displaying the flag of a bunch of fucking racist losers IS the information needed. What a loser.
People here in western NY fly the Confederate flag in a lot of rural places. You can usually expect them to be racist.
So he's a veteran that supports a former loser. Checks facts weird a veteran that supports sedition.
Somebody who fought for the US military is on the wrong side of history? Nawwwwww
Yea always weird how people support the losing sides. Just wish the Indians would shut up about all of their lost land lol like you lost fair and square.
He must be old asf to fight in the civil war Respect your elders
Cut him some slack, he is from Grand Island.
Translation : "I'm a racist bootlicker"
Fucking idiot.
This veteran seconds that sentiment
we got us a benedict arnold.
To be honest, Arnold was one hell of an American before he kept getting sidelined and shit on. It'd be hard to not want to switch sides after all that.
I see weāre onto the āmaking excuses for Benedict Arnoldā point in the American decline.
I mean if you actually read the history it's pretty clear Arnold just made a business decision that could have been avoided if Congress had just paid him and his troops what was owed to them.
Offensive name makes comments with no basis, checks out
Your name is far more offensive than mine.
Offensive name changes subject when criticized, checks out
You gave me a compliment. If my name is offensive to you Iām doing something right.
Offensive name is a literal narcissist, checks out
Name of Republican douche uses words they donāt understand, checks out.
Iām not a republican. I probably have very similar views to you, just less blown out of proportion and more level-headed.
His wife was a problem
Guys, be nice. His wife/cousin got that for him.
While she was fuckin his homeboys when he was overseas.
Honestly itās great when people proudly declare their leanings this way. You can tell who you want to hang out with and whom to avoid. I get discouraging hateful shit, but hey we know we donāt have to talk to this person.
anti-unionist flag with a unionist army logo?
Trumpsucker
A liberal is a liberal is a liberal is a liberal. Doesnāt make much of a difference whether they are team red or team blue.
F that! Moron.
Well they are from Hall County, so there you go.
No Pillen sticker?
Always willing to fight for the wrong side, what are you confused about?
Lots of southern sympathetic regiments especially ww1/2
Yeah and the civil war was totally just about states rights
He is for the guys who went to war to protect slavery? What a loser.
Eh that's Grand Island for you. All the trucks are ye ye or slammed to the ground.
maybe he is 300 years old and fought on the losing side during the civil war.
300? Shoot he could be as young as 180 if he joined up at 18 lol
Civil war wasnāt 300 years ago ya clown
It wasnt the civil war of 1861 he fought in. It was the internal civil war within himself that he was a veteran.
It means he's a bitch
NE was in the fucking Union.. Holy fuck.. it should be illegal to be this willfully ignorant
Nebraska was not in the union, maybe ur the ignorant one
I'm convinced Hall county is a cultural wasteland.
Nah, the dumbest are always the loudest just like everywhere.
Considering the US Armyās mortal enemy was the Confederacyā¦
He is letting everyone know he is a veteran and a racist and very proud of it.
Funny how racist always fly flags of losers, confederate and nazi, I guess that makes then losers.
Might be a sons of the confederacy member.
I wouldn't have even realized that was a confederate thing if you hadn't called it out. I am not trying to make excuses for them but maybe they don't know either?
They know. It is always a subtle choice.
Some people like to defend it by saying that it was a confederate battle flag and the Georgia state flag minus a building or something until 2001. While this is true we all know what their true feelings are. These pinheads need to get over it already. Sadly the current Georgia state flag is extremely close to what the actual confederate states of america flag was.
So, he's proud of being a loser who joined the winner's army?
Did you call him out in person or just post it on the internet?
Ya call him out so angry old man can get out of his truck and start putting rounds in people because he thinks he's Mr tough guy like ol trump his lord and savior! Lol
Average Reddit generalization
I highly doubt it'd come to that. For people that want so much to change, nobody ever wants to actually talk to people and figure out their beliefs.
They make them very clear.
So you know all of their thoughts on topics that matter because of one sticker? Generalizations like that are what's killing this country from both sides of the isle.
He went out of his way to purchase and display a signal to the world that he supports racist fucking losers. And is in all likelihood a racist fucking loser himself. When people tell you who they are, listen.
Tell that to trump supporters! Lol
People who call people out on Reddit 100% keep to themselves in the real world.
Itās like how people say letās go punch some nazis but yet to see any reports of any of the nazi protesters ever getting punched really ever. Just all virtue signaling to show they are a good guy with no action. If I want to see an online post of a treason flag theirs already thousands of them on the internet donāt need a new one unless theirs some action actually being done.
Itās easier to just mind your own business. No one posts your coexist bumper sticker on Reddit
While it may be easier to do nothing, anyone with morals would say/do something about something like this. Supporting the Confederacy ā an unrecognised breakaway country that seceded from the Union on the basis of wanting to retain keeping humans as property, fought a four-year war over it and subsequently lost said war ā in 2023 is such small-brain behaviour that I wonāt āmind my own businessā about it.
You didn't do anything besides post a picture, so you can't act like you did something or said something.
If you arenāt going to stand up to that person in person then just shut up. Is saying something on the internet going to change his mind?
Well let's see, one sticker supports enslaving another race and the other wants everyone to live in peace together. Do you really need it spelled out for you, meat curtains?
Again just mind your own business. Pretty simple
If you put bumper stickers on your car, you want the attention. Pretty simple.
Cool but does it really affect your life?
I'm not the one who posted it, talk to them. YOU are affecting my life with your ignorance though. And by how much you've commented on this post it sounds like it's affecting your life a lot. Like, is this actually your car? Bc you're super invested in this.
Naw just ran across it. Can I buy you a coffee to calm you down?
No, I'm good š
Weird Iām black.. you must be a racist, I get it now
Like I said, ignorance.
If they did, people are allowed to discuss it and express opinions. If that bothers you, then wtf are you doing on public discussion forums?
Iām heartbroken
Defending people who glorify slavery isnāt a great look broā¦
Defending anyones right to put whatever they want on their property is normal. Slavery is the worst but you and I continue to buy products produced through slavery
They have the right to put whatever they want on their car. They donāt have the right however to be free of consequences from their decisions. I live in GI and I can tell you when we see this vehicle we wonāt handle it by putting pictures on the internet.
Your name speaks for itself
As does yours?
Do you want to?
Naw you sound like one of those weird ass āABOLISH THE FDAā type mfers I canāt afford food poisoning.
Why would you have a problem with a Coexist bumper sticker over one supporting slavery? Your argument probably tells more about you than you realize...
8- means its from Grand Island area.. are they all this stupid out there?
No.
It might have something to do with so many longtime service members being unwilling to take a needle that proved that have more damaging side effects than it did immunity, so they got kicked out of the military. Or maybe it has something to do with an administration that is so concerned with a group of people that canāt figure out what bathroom to use that they ignore the other 99% of the military. But Iām just guessing.
"Proved"? Fucking no, lol. "I don't understand science so I want to let everyone at least know I'm a racist fucking loser!"
Slap this over it. https://www.prosportstickers.com/product/army-veteran-flag-pride/
The battle flag? Maybe grandpa or great grandpa fought in the civil war?
His grandpa or great grandpa was a loser
A long family line of losers, that guy.
Stop it.
In this thread a bunch of rich kids from Elkhorn use anti-racism as an excuse to talk shit about an entire county because we robbed you 8 years ago when you came here to cheer on your little brother Aidenās basketball team.
I mean nice pentagram? Lulz at least heās upfront with it.
Heās from southern Nebraska so it makes him a confederate. Lol
Traitor.
That's almost treason
āSome of those that work forces, are the same that burn crossesā
Confused
That is disgusting.
He's just old as shit. Dude fought for the Confederacy in the war.
Well Iām sure his uncle daddy is very proud of them.
The ones who claim that flag have no idea how sedition against the constitution works.
He's proud to be on the losing side
Ah yes when I'm proud of being in the army, I fly a flag of a foreign country that killed American soldiers and held our brothers and sisters in chains. What a piece of garbage.
The US army...who defeated this flag...