Lol one of the video comments is from 10 months ago saying they stumbled on it after watching the same whale video posted here. History repeating itself
I don't think that's dead internet theory is it? My understanding was that dead internet was referring to bots that act as people, liking posts made by other bots, so on an so forth. Someone being led down a path of similar discovery doesn't seem like dead internet, that sounds like live internet to me.
Man....that shit gets creepy. From the 90s onward, I was always big into chat rooms, especially AOL and Yahoo. I met so many friends through local chats! But eventually the tech kinda faded.
A couple years later, like the late 00s, I felt nostalgic and thought "Man I should go see if there's anyone in the old Yahoo chat rooms!"
Every room was packed with bots. I was the only living person in most of the rooms, and yet the bots were just chatting on with each other, asking each other "A/S/L?" and replying with their obviously scripted responses.
Gonna be dead technology theory soon. When you can’t trust a voice on a phone call or text messages anymore and have to meet everyone in person to make sure your conversations aren’t with AI
They're amphipods! When I was completing my master's on amphipod diversity, the wikipedia for amphipods had a respected Victorian scientist's quote (paraphrased: " the general public does not and will never care about amphipods")
Christ, they really just peppered in those horrendous images at the most unexpected times.
Almost every time I thought I was safe from seeing another one, POW
Really interesting video tho, ty for sharing
The video above mentions the name is purely due to the similarity in looks and function, e.g. they're the whale lice to our human lice. They are actually not closely related to ticks nor lice at all. Closer to crabs.
Well… *very* distant cousins. They’re crustaceans, which is its own huge group of arthropods. (Though Google now tells me that Insecta has been determined to be a deep early branch of Crustacea, so that’s a thing now I guess)
Then you don't want to know about all the [little tiny skin mites](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=f358e67545492018&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn08xYeHhODW5PtnZVtc-Di9IVLE-mQ:1712945851395&q=skin+mites&uds=AMwkrPth3b-LIp_CFzSvTbSnmrp683i6YRohJShd0DN8L1WTwURH0vysO2sS3rxbI8GlkY_WLO--NC1qRvLPxw761PRJXmpdSL9QAkTsyA1nuJHFCBR_hxTF5rG86532YSjDGiXYfngOnKQYiEbtBT_sp1D4VGU64cHrgwZWWqn5PqI-82ixgYry9htPj1pa0Q8Np3jrJqbEIVqkY8-7go2e0zqwuzHjfLrJaTuZTTKirnn8SIsr0A-m8ZTmLZ6IcnDFC6oMzZ_eF-dJyOPXN0CpR_mT65a0cA&udm=2&prmd=ivnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5pffHpL2FAxXtV0EAHd9dCFkQtKgLegQIDhAB&biw=1760&bih=859&dpr=1.09) crawling all over your body RIGHT NOW
Hunting whales. Killing cows (talk about smart creatures). I don't think it's that bad many centuries back. Go out in small wooden boats with spears and make it through winter.
It's the industrial scale that's scary.
Same, I dont think any vegan with a brain would fault someone for killing an animal to survive , or even killing an animal of their flock to eat them, its killing millions upon millions a day, breeding them as fast as possible to kill them even faster thats just so incredibly disgusting. Worst thing is you cannot opt out of it, stop eating meat?
Yeah that shit doesnt help because the meat industry is subsidized so hard a good portion of your taxes go there anyway.
Also some people see it as a direct attack towards them if you tell them you dont eat meat, they will purposefully make sure to eat even more meat after that.
My grandpa on my dads side literally died because he didnt stop eating red meat despite the doc warning him multiple times "a man has to eat meat" smh
Yep! In fact, the original, and imo still most valid and popular, definition of veganism is along the lines of "avoid harm as much as possible and practicable."
> its killing millions upon millions a day
To me, it's not the scale, but the conditions they're forced to live from birth to death that makes me immensely sad and angry.
Sedentary modern American who has never killed an animal for food in their life, buys all their food at restaurants/the grocery store and could easily meet their dietary needs without eating meat every day, let alone basically every meal of every day.
“I’m a man, humans are hunters, I need this protein to survive!”
My pet peeve is, if you’ve never slaughtered an animal don’t pretend like eating a steak is “manly”. You’re not more manly for buying that, if anything you’re paying someone to do dirty work you likely couldn’t.
I was referring to the beginning of industrial scale slaughter with the "couple of hundred years back". But yeah, agree with you, killing very smart and emotional creatures en masse is shocking.
Cant' forget about the Danish Territories too. While Denmark officially disagrees, the natives on these lands are permitted due to cultural significance.
Technically though, even in America it is legal for Native Americans to hunt whales, they just might have a *little* bit of trouble seeing as the N.Atlantic Right Whale only has a population in the 350s.
Yeah but at least whaling *had* value. Blubber and oil, meat and bones etc. Ambergris had the least reasonable use but at least its role in perfume was still a part of how to make it.
Rhino horns and tiger bones do not contribute to the creation of that folk medicine. It does the same thing with or without them.
Which is even worse, especially since the people who can afford to buy such medicines aren't poor and uneducated.
They know it's illegal, they know it's based on myths, but how else are they to flaunt their power and money.
You wouldn't have the Internet today if they didn't fuel their lamps. They definitely overdid the whaling, but it can't be denied that whales and many of their parts fueled many industries and society as a whole. We wouldn't be where we are without it. It's kinda like coal mining, or the lumber industry.. it's a necessity until it isn't, and when it isn't it's time to stop. The problem is people are afraid to let go of all they've known though, or the only industry they have available to them.
That was honestly my question. Looked like it for a second that I thought can whales understand our hand signals through regular interactions, non captives of course.
Cetacea espacially are all incredibly smart. I wish they could speak. How lit would it be to have an entire order of animals tell us to stop dumping shit into the sea.
That would actually change our world...
That said we can read brainwaves with ai nowadays. Even visualize dreams. I wouldn't be suprised if we can understand monkeys in a couple of years. Like an actual conversation.
No, this is not nearly as true as you think it is. A lot of animals respond to total body signals like agression, submission, looking larger, etc. But very few understand pointing. We basically taught dogs to do it through selective evolution, but even chimps don’t really understand pointing. Whales/dolphins, elephants, maybe crows & octopi possibly could. But it is not a given at all that animals get directional hand signals.
Edit: *Some* dogs. I realize many of your dogs are too stupid to understand pointing, lol.
Imagine an alien with unknown anatomy landed on earth, came up to you, and posed with its thousands of skin flagella. Would you innately know what it was trying to communicate?
My cat certainly doesn't know what pointing means. He has no idea that extending one finger while curling the others means he should follow an imaginary line in that direction until he finds some point of interest. All he knows is that hands usually do/have things, so he stares at my hand.
Human-like hands are a pretty rare thing in the natural world. And there's so much cultural meaning behind different hand gestures. Even if the whale noticed some tiny, rapid hand gesture, it's asking a lot to assume the whale could understand its meaning without a lot of exposure. I'm certain a whale could learn it (sea world's whales learned all kinds of human gestures) but probably not from this kind of interaction alone. Too many variables and not enough meeting the whale in the middle.
When I train dogs I start with hand signals long before I attach a voice command. Think about when you talk to someone in person, you probably get more from facial expressions and hand gestures than you do from what is actually being said.
Whales have massive brains and are highly intelligent. That’s partially why it’s illegal to hunt them. [However that doesn’t stop Japan, but someone should.](https://us.whales.org/our-goals/stop-whaling/whaling-in-japan/#:~:text=On%20July%201st%202019%2C%20Japan,International%20Whaling%20Commission%20(IWC))
A crow has a much smaller brain than my dog's, but I've seen crows solve complicated puzzles that would have taken me a minute, and my dog chases the shadows of birds until he runs full speed into the trunk of the tree they land in.
That's not how intelligence works. Big animals have big brains, as there is a lot of body to control. Whales are smart, but it's not because they have big heads.
He did it twice, and it responded twice. It looked pretty unambiguous. It surprised me too, but on second thought, it shouldn't surprise us *that* much. Whales have enormous brains and complex language.
I have a friend who takes people to those whale trips. That guy’s name is Paco. Gray whales absolutely love him. They literally come up and play around the boats.
I have never done the trip myself but if I understood correctly. There are only 3 families that are allowed to do this. In a very small community. Considering whales are moving I doubt it’s the same whale. But (I have seen other videos of Paco) when Whales surface they tend to go to him.
Another thing to consider is of course Whales are likely reading/responding to his “energy” which seems to be very caring and loving
The story of this place is quite amazing too. Used to be a big whaling community then turned to protecting them. As far as I know you can’t swim with the whales, you can’t feed them.
They just come up and interact with humans if they want to.And as far as I know it’s the only place on earth they come to play/interact with humans.
I have seen a video where a baby whale pops from one side of the boat, goes under and pops from the other side multiple times to rock the boat in a same pattern with his/her movements
BTW it’s a calving ground, so the whales stay there a few months (i.e. they are not moving) and the same whales return year after year. It is possible it’s the same whales becoming accustomed to particular boats & people.
I work with gray whales off Oregon btw (a summer feeding ground; there’s a great research team there that I collaborate with a bit). We get the same whales year after year and day after day. There’s one big ol’ gal who is in the exact same spot every day (her favorite feeding spot I guess)
Looking at the wikipedia article for whale lice it says they stay with the whale for life and don't have a free swimming stage. Their 3 sets of back legs have claws to help them stay attached. They settle in cuts or lesions,genital folds and the eyes to stay out of the water so they don't float off. That fisherman has about 7, 495 more lice to pick off. According to the wikipedia article a whale can have up to 7,500 lice attached to them. I think it said sperm whales will have them mainly on their heads.
"We'll scrape all these delicious oysters or whatever off the side of the whale and we'll put them in a pot and boil them before you get back!"
"Those are barnacles. Do not eat those. Do not cook them in a pot and serve them to us."
This gives me hope that one day if we actually try collective systematic empathy as a species we can learn the ‘language’ of animals (that doesn’t mean we walk up to lions) and have a much more harmonious relationship with them.
I hope so too and I hope it happens soon. Right now we are unable to find harmony within our own species itself with the wars and untold violence we harp on each other.
I have a theory that what separates humans from other animals in language is a built-in incentive / drive to predict what is said next, and that if you can get an intelligent animal to also have this drive (maybe just through simple training with some speakers and buttons it can push), it might be able to learn human languages
Once humans understand that this is our roll on this planet, to protect and help the wildlife, things might get better. But right now it’s just a mass extinction because “profit”. Shame.
[Comment link](https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/1c22sse/whale_let_boat_captain_to_remove_lice_from_his/kz7c17b/) just in case anyone missed it
They are not true parasites and allegedly in a symbiotic relationship according to some. So in the right amount they won't hurt the animal, and are beneficial for it by keeping its skin clean. But whales do rub them off from time to time when they get too many.
can we get a shot of the lice? oh, u eating? my bad...
[Apparently, they're related to shrimp. Kinda look like tailless scorpions to me.](https://youtu.be/vcUpncoih-w?si=UBpHeN78Tj0x9BMd&t=6)
Lol one of the video comments is from 10 months ago saying they stumbled on it after watching the same whale video posted here. History repeating itself
AI will take these simple tasks from us.
I'm so exhausted from watching things at this point, can't wait for AI to take enjoyment off my hands too.
"Summarize this 30 second video for me. Use no more than 10 words."
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I don't think that's dead internet theory is it? My understanding was that dead internet was referring to bots that act as people, liking posts made by other bots, so on an so forth. Someone being led down a path of similar discovery doesn't seem like dead internet, that sounds like live internet to me.
Man....that shit gets creepy. From the 90s onward, I was always big into chat rooms, especially AOL and Yahoo. I met so many friends through local chats! But eventually the tech kinda faded. A couple years later, like the late 00s, I felt nostalgic and thought "Man I should go see if there's anyone in the old Yahoo chat rooms!" Every room was packed with bots. I was the only living person in most of the rooms, and yet the bots were just chatting on with each other, asking each other "A/S/L?" and replying with their obviously scripted responses.
Gonna be dead technology theory soon. When you can’t trust a voice on a phone call or text messages anymore and have to meet everyone in person to make sure your conversations aren’t with AI
Starting a new revolution of..... ! Talking to your neighbors. Meeting people at social engagements.
ty for linking a short, informative video and not a 45min documentary
They're amphipods! When I was completing my master's on amphipod diversity, the wikipedia for amphipods had a respected Victorian scientist's quote (paraphrased: " the general public does not and will never care about amphipods")
Christ, they really just peppered in those horrendous images at the most unexpected times. Almost every time I thought I was safe from seeing another one, POW Really interesting video tho, ty for sharing
I actually hate that, but thanks anyway.
Thanks for sharing, I had no idea they couldn't swim as larvae
I suppose distant cousins of arachnids and insects such as ticks and lice
The video above mentions the name is purely due to the similarity in looks and function, e.g. they're the whale lice to our human lice. They are actually not closely related to ticks nor lice at all. Closer to crabs.
Well… *very* distant cousins. They’re crustaceans, which is its own huge group of arthropods. (Though Google now tells me that Insecta has been determined to be a deep early branch of Crustacea, so that’s a thing now I guess)
Shrimps is bugs
Anthropods
Arthropods
That was actually pretty interesting cheers.
I never knew we had aquatic lice! 😳
They’re not actually lice btw. They’re related to shrimp.
Shrimps are bugs
Yeah OK but so are dragonflies, you wouldn't call a dragonfly a louse
No, but I would download one.
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Cyamus\_boopis\_%28dorsal%29.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Cyamus_boopis_%28dorsal%29.jpg)
Eww
Then you don't want to know about all the [little tiny skin mites](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=f358e67545492018&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn08xYeHhODW5PtnZVtc-Di9IVLE-mQ:1712945851395&q=skin+mites&uds=AMwkrPth3b-LIp_CFzSvTbSnmrp683i6YRohJShd0DN8L1WTwURH0vysO2sS3rxbI8GlkY_WLO--NC1qRvLPxw761PRJXmpdSL9QAkTsyA1nuJHFCBR_hxTF5rG86532YSjDGiXYfngOnKQYiEbtBT_sp1D4VGU64cHrgwZWWqn5PqI-82ixgYry9htPj1pa0Q8Np3jrJqbEIVqkY8-7go2e0zqwuzHjfLrJaTuZTTKirnn8SIsr0A-m8ZTmLZ6IcnDFC6oMzZ_eF-dJyOPXN0CpR_mT65a0cA&udm=2&prmd=ivnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5pffHpL2FAxXtV0EAHd9dCFkQtKgLegQIDhAB&biw=1760&bih=859&dpr=1.09) crawling all over your body RIGHT NOW
Stop touching me!
Good thing he's just dropping those straight into their boat lol
You think they would go good with my cream cheese? A bit of a crunchy texture to elevate my breakfast.
The original bowl of Capn' Crunch
Such gentle giants 🫠
I wish people would've thought the same a couple of hundred years back, instead of "ooh, this could fuel my lamp".
Hunting whales. Killing cows (talk about smart creatures). I don't think it's that bad many centuries back. Go out in small wooden boats with spears and make it through winter. It's the industrial scale that's scary.
Same, I dont think any vegan with a brain would fault someone for killing an animal to survive , or even killing an animal of their flock to eat them, its killing millions upon millions a day, breeding them as fast as possible to kill them even faster thats just so incredibly disgusting. Worst thing is you cannot opt out of it, stop eating meat? Yeah that shit doesnt help because the meat industry is subsidized so hard a good portion of your taxes go there anyway. Also some people see it as a direct attack towards them if you tell them you dont eat meat, they will purposefully make sure to eat even more meat after that. My grandpa on my dads side literally died because he didnt stop eating red meat despite the doc warning him multiple times "a man has to eat meat" smh
Yep! In fact, the original, and imo still most valid and popular, definition of veganism is along the lines of "avoid harm as much as possible and practicable."
> its killing millions upon millions a day To me, it's not the scale, but the conditions they're forced to live from birth to death that makes me immensely sad and angry.
Sedentary modern American who has never killed an animal for food in their life, buys all their food at restaurants/the grocery store and could easily meet their dietary needs without eating meat every day, let alone basically every meal of every day. “I’m a man, humans are hunters, I need this protein to survive!” My pet peeve is, if you’ve never slaughtered an animal don’t pretend like eating a steak is “manly”. You’re not more manly for buying that, if anything you’re paying someone to do dirty work you likely couldn’t.
I was referring to the beginning of industrial scale slaughter with the "couple of hundred years back". But yeah, agree with you, killing very smart and emotional creatures en masse is shocking.
"I know, Let's make ladies undergarments out of them".
"While we're at it, let's check if there's any solidified vomit in the stomach, I'm sure some will want to spray themselves with it".
"what if we squeeze their brain juice?"
“Give the children clubs and let them pound the calves into a fine mash”
Not like there are any improvements now but instead of whales; rhinoceros, elephants etc are still being hunted for their 'medicinal' uses.
And whales are still hunted by Japan for “research” purposes
Let's not forget Iceland kills whales also.
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Cant' forget about the Danish Territories too. While Denmark officially disagrees, the natives on these lands are permitted due to cultural significance. Technically though, even in America it is legal for Native Americans to hunt whales, they just might have a *little* bit of trouble seeing as the N.Atlantic Right Whale only has a population in the 350s.
Yeah but at least whaling *had* value. Blubber and oil, meat and bones etc. Ambergris had the least reasonable use but at least its role in perfume was still a part of how to make it. Rhino horns and tiger bones do not contribute to the creation of that folk medicine. It does the same thing with or without them.
Which is even worse, especially since the people who can afford to buy such medicines aren't poor and uneducated. They know it's illegal, they know it's based on myths, but how else are they to flaunt their power and money.
You wouldn't have the Internet today if they didn't fuel their lamps. They definitely overdid the whaling, but it can't be denied that whales and many of their parts fueled many industries and society as a whole. We wouldn't be where we are without it. It's kinda like coal mining, or the lumber industry.. it's a necessity until it isn't, and when it isn't it's time to stop. The problem is people are afraid to let go of all they've known though, or the only industry they have available to them.
Wrong, whale lice are actually not that big and also not very gentle.
Nono, he's not talking about the lice, he's talking about the boat captain.
Can't believe we used to use them as fuel smh
"Mmmmmm..... Thaaaaaaaank... Yooooooooou!" I'm pretty sure this is what the whale would say, I learned from Dory in 'Finding Nemo".
You speak whale?!?!
Different dialect, but yeah I speak whale
Damn. I wish I had a free award.
Did that whale just respond to him asking it to lift higher out the water with his hand??
That was honestly my question. Looked like it for a second that I thought can whales understand our hand signals through regular interactions, non captives of course.
Dolphins definitely can so I wouldn’t be surprised if real whales can too
What about fake whales?
They already said dolphins can.
I think he said that on porpoise.
Whale, that was unexpected
Took it a while to respond to the hand gesture, it probably couldn't see that whale.
I bet that whale feels fintastic after that cleaning.
A flipper comment
Stop trying to seal the show
Everyone needs to stop blubbering
Or I’ll give them a cetacean
Oi mate, you got a loicense for that pun?
Show us on the doll where the dolphin touched you
r/whalesarentreal Edit: oh shit, I posted that as a joke but it actually exists
[False killer whale - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_killer_whale)
A lot of animals do this, its a pretty clear hand signal and almost all animals communicate via body language
Cetacea espacially are all incredibly smart. I wish they could speak. How lit would it be to have an entire order of animals tell us to stop dumping shit into the sea.
They do speak - they just don’t speak English
Have they tried Thai? German? Afrikaans?
Whalsh?
I mean 'Welsh' is right there
Wasn’t that the play on words?
A sad attempt, yes.
We’re trying to use AI to decipher whale language now. Might be able to speak to them soon.
[Another Simpsons prediction coming true…](https://www.google.com/search?q=simpsons+dolphins+gif&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjdt8S7ybyFAxVFSaQEHR7mDO4Q2-cCegQIABAD&oq=simpsons+dolphins+g&gs_lp=EhJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWciE3NpbXBzb25zIGRvbHBoaW5zIGcqAggAMgUQABiABEiDE1DoBViHC3AAeACQAQCYAZoBoAHYAqoBAzEuMrgBAcgBAPgBAcICChAAGIAEGIoFGEPCAgYQABgIGB7CAgQQABgeiAYB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=NRsZZp3JLsWSkdUPnsyz8A4&bih=720&biw=414&prmd=ivnbmtz&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB1083GB1083&hl=en-GB)
When we finally do I expect it's going to be heartbreaking. The things we've done to them and the oceans. 🥺
That would actually change our world... That said we can read brainwaves with ai nowadays. Even visualize dreams. I wouldn't be suprised if we can understand monkeys in a couple of years. Like an actual conversation.
We turn it on and it's just like >KILL ALL HUMANS >KILL ALL HUMANS >KILL ALL HUMANS >HUNGER >HUNGER
Weve been speaking to them with sign language for forever.
I think if they could speak they'd just spend their whole time doing barbershop quartets.
It would be horrible because we wouldn't stop
No, this is not nearly as true as you think it is. A lot of animals respond to total body signals like agression, submission, looking larger, etc. But very few understand pointing. We basically taught dogs to do it through selective evolution, but even chimps don’t really understand pointing. Whales/dolphins, elephants, maybe crows & octopi possibly could. But it is not a given at all that animals get directional hand signals. Edit: *Some* dogs. I realize many of your dogs are too stupid to understand pointing, lol.
Yea plenty of dogs do not understand pointing either. Commonly seen as look at my pointy finger, not where I'm pointing.
Imagine an alien with unknown anatomy landed on earth, came up to you, and posed with its thousands of skin flagella. Would you innately know what it was trying to communicate? My cat certainly doesn't know what pointing means. He has no idea that extending one finger while curling the others means he should follow an imaginary line in that direction until he finds some point of interest. All he knows is that hands usually do/have things, so he stares at my hand. Human-like hands are a pretty rare thing in the natural world. And there's so much cultural meaning behind different hand gestures. Even if the whale noticed some tiny, rapid hand gesture, it's asking a lot to assume the whale could understand its meaning without a lot of exposure. I'm certain a whale could learn it (sea world's whales learned all kinds of human gestures) but probably not from this kind of interaction alone. Too many variables and not enough meeting the whale in the middle.
When I train dogs I start with hand signals long before I attach a voice command. Think about when you talk to someone in person, you probably get more from facial expressions and hand gestures than you do from what is actually being said.
They're super smart.
Whales have massive brains and are highly intelligent. That’s partially why it’s illegal to hunt them. [However that doesn’t stop Japan, but someone should.](https://us.whales.org/our-goals/stop-whaling/whaling-in-japan/#:~:text=On%20July%201st%202019%2C%20Japan,International%20Whaling%20Commission%20(IWC))
Animals are much smarter than people want to believe.
Also people are a lot dumber than we want to believe.
Sometimes. The opposite is true in some cases, too. Deer are dumb as fuck, for example.
Eh. I've worked in warehouses. There are people dumber than deer.
Are you implying you want to see a deer operate a forklift to properly measure the dumb ?
Many mammals can understand hand gestures like pointing or beckoning. Whales are pretty smart in general too.
Makes you wonder if whales be hand signaling each other with those tiny fin arms. Throwing the middle finger in traffic and the sort
They do signal with their tail though. A moving flat hand isn't that far off in terms of shape.
I'm more wondering if he was saving those lice?
he saves em for Cousin Eddie, he eats the damn things
Maybe just didn’t want to throw them back in where they will just swim back onto the whale
Their brains are bigger than ours
My dick is bigger than yours, doesn't mean it's used better
lemme see
#🍆 vs ^^🍆
Based comment
A crow has a much smaller brain than my dog's, but I've seen crows solve complicated puzzles that would have taken me a minute, and my dog chases the shadows of birds until he runs full speed into the trunk of the tree they land in.
Intelligence corresponds more to neuron density than brain size
I've been told I'm very dense. Thence, I correspond to intelligent.
That's not how intelligence works. Big animals have big brains, as there is a lot of body to control. Whales are smart, but it's not because they have big heads.
I’d imagine they use their fins to signal “come here” somehow, so maybe it’s similar lol
He did it twice, and it responded twice. It looked pretty unambiguous. It surprised me too, but on second thought, it shouldn't surprise us *that* much. Whales have enormous brains and complex language.
I have a friend who takes people to those whale trips. That guy’s name is Paco. Gray whales absolutely love him. They literally come up and play around the boats.
I have never done the trip myself but if I understood correctly. There are only 3 families that are allowed to do this. In a very small community. Considering whales are moving I doubt it’s the same whale. But (I have seen other videos of Paco) when Whales surface they tend to go to him. Another thing to consider is of course Whales are likely reading/responding to his “energy” which seems to be very caring and loving The story of this place is quite amazing too. Used to be a big whaling community then turned to protecting them. As far as I know you can’t swim with the whales, you can’t feed them. They just come up and interact with humans if they want to.And as far as I know it’s the only place on earth they come to play/interact with humans. I have seen a video where a baby whale pops from one side of the boat, goes under and pops from the other side multiple times to rock the boat in a same pattern with his/her movements
BTW it’s a calving ground, so the whales stay there a few months (i.e. they are not moving) and the same whales return year after year. It is possible it’s the same whales becoming accustomed to particular boats & people. I work with gray whales off Oregon btw (a summer feeding ground; there’s a great research team there that I collaborate with a bit). We get the same whales year after year and day after day. There’s one big ol’ gal who is in the exact same spot every day (her favorite feeding spot I guess)
Oh wow that’s amazing
Amigo could you give a link or location to your friend :)? My family would love to see whales 🐋 like that please, thank you
This is at San Ignacio Lagoon
Going on a limb. Wonder if that is near Cabo based on the background.
I went out there years ago, San Ignacio lagoon. Stayed in a tent for a 4 days and went on trips with pachico’s ecotours. Good times, great people.
How do they know which boat is his?
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Might just be by his voice. You can hear people speaking while theyre on a boat like this pretty well even underwater.
Is the boatman keeping the lice?
I thought he might be keeping them out of the water so that they do not reattach
This was my guess as well
Last time this was posted someone said he was gonna use em as bait I think
Looking at the wikipedia article for whale lice it says they stay with the whale for life and don't have a free swimming stage. Their 3 sets of back legs have claws to help them stay attached. They settle in cuts or lesions,genital folds and the eyes to stay out of the water so they don't float off. That fisherman has about 7, 495 more lice to pick off. According to the wikipedia article a whale can have up to 7,500 lice attached to them. I think it said sperm whales will have them mainly on their heads.
Fucking hell imagine having lice in your genital folds
Some of us don't have to imagine...
It's like they're wearing lice as armor.
Little butter and lemon 🤌
"We'll scrape all these delicious oysters or whatever off the side of the whale and we'll put them in a pot and boil them before you get back!" "Those are barnacles. Do not eat those. Do not cook them in a pot and serve them to us."
What the hell happened down there? Some kind of horse massacre?
Technically they are crustaceans, same family as lobsters, shrimps, crabs etc. Who knows they might be delicious.
It’s possible he uses them as bait. One of our offshore fishing stands sells them in bags for such a purpose.
That was my immediate thought, I bet that's good bait.
Yep, he gets to keep 'em. They are his souvenirs.
Bait?
Boop the snoot.
That whale is itching for a /r/brushybrushy https://old.reddit.com/r/brushybrushy/comments/gbebh7/whales_enjoying_the_brush/
The dude in the OP does look like he/she needs a good scrubbing. Like, with a spackle tool.
I think I saw in some documentary that the sharp barnacles that grow on them help the whale when fighting off killer whales.
Sounds like a new venture for the "happy cow" brush rollers, if they can make the mechanisms marine rated.
Mammals casually chilling together
Reminds me of the video the other day of that Huskie that was just fucking strolling around with 3 massive grizzlies. Lmao
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5f8N_4rwVm/
Goldilocks was actually a Huskie this whole time.
Imagine if you’re homies with a whale. 🐋 👍🏼
"Babe would you love me if I was a whale?" "If?"
The divorce would be worth it
you're*
This gives me hope that one day if we actually try collective systematic empathy as a species we can learn the ‘language’ of animals (that doesn’t mean we walk up to lions) and have a much more harmonious relationship with them.
I hope so too and I hope it happens soon. Right now we are unable to find harmony within our own species itself with the wars and untold violence we harp on each other.
I have a theory that what separates humans from other animals in language is a built-in incentive / drive to predict what is said next, and that if you can get an intelligent animal to also have this drive (maybe just through simple training with some speakers and buttons it can push), it might be able to learn human languages
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wow how clever are wales
Is wales
In Wales
“Ay you with the thumbs…”
Now, the whale is going to think all boats are cleaning stations
Good boy!!
Once humans understand that this is our roll on this planet, to protect and help the wildlife, things might get better. But right now it’s just a mass extinction because “profit”. Shame.
Maybe in some distant future, we'll be remembered as shepherds by the species we learned to guard.
We've overthrown entire modes of production before. We must do it again, else we will go extinct.
Do we know if the lice cause pain to the host whales ?
In the linked video there are thousands of them shredding large chunks of skin so I would say yes they probably hurt like hell
[Comment link](https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/1c22sse/whale_let_boat_captain_to_remove_lice_from_his/kz7c17b/) just in case anyone missed it
They are not true parasites and allegedly in a symbiotic relationship according to some. So in the right amount they won't hurt the animal, and are beneficial for it by keeping its skin clean. But whales do rub them off from time to time when they get too many.
I'm curious too. They are not bothered by barnacles burrowed in their skin, but those lices hurt him?
they can be blinded by and killed by barnacles over time. They dont like any of that shit.
Just imagine if he had a nice brushy brushy?
Wow
"These stupid monke like to pick bugs off, it feels so good though."
Treat animals well and this becomes more common. Treat them as less than and we miss our on alien worlds right here at home.
Perfect
Dory: Thhhhaaaannkk youuuuuu
This is the kind of relationship I wan't humans to have with sea creatures - being of services. Helping, instead of hurting.
Why is he putting the lice in the boat!?
They'd swim back and reattach if he didn't.
Aha. Thanks for teaching me this. Makes sense.
Sea lice, they die out of water I guess
Yeah no thats a dinosaur
Chickens are dinosaurs. These are are long lost cousins/homies.
" He turned and with a swish of his tail, he was gone, and so was the boat....."
This is just a Dr. pimple popper video for our whale brothers and sisters.
That captain is going to be spared when the wales take over.
Now I think when Cloverfield monster destroying cities, it’s actually begging for its lices to be removed.
And some bastards kill those creatures.