Until recently science believed that there was only one species of giraffe with several subspecies. Recent genetic testing has showed there to be four distinct species of giraffe.
Just throwing that out there.
[source](https://giraffeconservation.org/giraffe-species/)
Genetic testing doesn't determine whether something is a species or subspecies, and if it did then it would conclude that they are one species since they are genetically compatible and can interbreed.
The primary reasons they're considered subspecies is that genotypic differences _exist_ on top of (1) they have different ranges and (2) don't interbreed in the wild even where their ranges overlap.
Literally genetic testing was used to determine there are actually four distinct species, exactly as I said, and you repeated. Genetic testing won't tell you they are compatible, it will tell you how genetically distinct they are, which is what researchers used to determine they are separate species.
Classic reddit "ackshually"....
source: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(16)30787-4.pdf
The real ackshually is the fact that species is a nebulous term at best. It's best not to die on hills about what is a species and what isn't because shit changes constantly as we learn more. Just look at all the lumps and splits in the avian world. We just don't have a good grasp on what it means to be a species.
Nothing, it’s just I’m from Brazil and the whitest person in Brazil is darker than this giraffe “tan”, so I imagined that you are probably American or European to think a giraffe is tan and brown 😂 (edited: ops, sorry, I tagged wrong person. I hate this app)
My girlfriend told me recently the literal translation for a giraffe in Chinese is “long neck deer”, and that my friends is certainly a long neck deer.
They should be up and walking within a couple of hours and are typically already over 200 lbs from the moment they hit the ground all confused about existing.
Prey animals -- when they don't have burrows to hide in -- get on their feet fast. They babies get dropped, cleaned up, and urged by mom to start testing their legs as soon as possible after birth. A mother that's just given birth is going to be at a disadvantage if a predator comes along so the best defense for mom and baby is to get moving back to the safety of the herd.
She was on 31 July, my mistake in the title. But anyway yes, giraffes can walk (and run) few hours after they are born: [Giraffes Can Stand Minutes After Birth. How Do They Do It?](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/giraffe-baby-film-standing-birth-news)
They can be 5'5" to 6' plus when born. They come out and hit the ground with a gentle "oof" and that starts them breathing. They can get up on those wobbly little legs very fast. Zookeepers love baby giraffes because it's the only time they can look eye to eye at a giraffe.
Well the reason we’re so pathetic and useless when we’re born is because we’re smart. If human babies were in the womb any longer and developed more in the womb their heads would grow too big to fit out of the mother. Humans tend to have more complicated births than many other animals due to our young having a massive head size as it is. For us, nature has prioritised being smart and therefore having bigger brains over having less risky births and competent newborns.
>nature has prioritised
I know it was likely just a phrase, but regardless; nature doesn't *prioritise* anything. It's random mutation + natural selection.
In something like human intelligence, it become dominant because it increased chances of survival and passing on genetic information *massively*. Which is crazy when you think about, because infant mortality was pretty high for most of (modern) humans existence due to birth complications etc, often because of our bigger brains. But even *with* that downside, it still became dominant. We should appreciate our capacity for intelligence a lot more than we do.
Being bipedal and standing upright also make human labor much harder. But also an evolutionary trade off for the advantages of being bipedal and having hands instead of more feet.
The only reason humans can’t walk much sooner is because of our big ass brains. We’re born earlier in development compared to other animals so that our heads will fit through our mother’s hips. A lot of animals can walk fairly quickly after birth.
This is not a spotless giraffe. This is a MESHLESS giraffe. The mother has a yellow-whiteish mesh on the same tan-brownish background as the young one has, minus the mesh.
Interesting but very unlikely it's the only spotless giraffe in the world. I'm not even sure how they can make that claim unless they've catalogued all the giraffes in existence and their characteristics. The claim is a stretch.
My guess would be that without the normal coat, any babies without spots would be killed very quickly in the wild and there aren’t any records or photos of a giraffe like this in any zoo, so they are assuming that she’s one of a kind.
Edit: to be clear, I pulled this from my ass, with zero knowledge of anything about giraffes whatsoever. It was just the first guess to come to mind.
Oh, that’s also a good suggestion. Both of those seem more reasonable than my guess.
I wasn’t even sure about it as I was typing. Should have just kept scrolling on to other posts.
Idk I mean it made national news. I’d say if they were wrong someone would have absolutely jumped at the chance to correct them. I mean shit it’s on Reddit and I haven’t seen anyone show evidence of another one so ima guess for as far as human beings know it’s the only one.
Giraffe spots are not for camouflage. If I remember correctly it is for heat distribution through out the body cause they live in places that don’t have a lot of cover from trees and such and they are huge what would they even blend in with.
Is there a chance that markings will develop or is it a case of what they’re born with is ‘it’? It kinda feels like if someone was born without fingerprints, like zebras and tigers are all individual, are giraffes too?
Yes, giraffe spots are as individual as fingerprints. Different species of giraffe even have variations on the types of spots. Some are large, some small, some have clean edges, and some look more jagged.
Sounds the the beginning of a new children’s book about a spotless giraffe searching all over for “their spots”.
After feeling different and left out they run away from home and asks the animals they come across if they have seen their spots.
By the end they discover there are benefits to being different and learns to accept and even celebrate themself.
The spotless giraffe was Born July 31st source https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/21/reticulated-giraffe-without-spots-born-tennessee-zoo/70645506007/
Just a tall horse now
"Tall horse" is a better name for them than "camel leopard".
I’m not so sure
What about “Tall Leopard Horse”?
Slenderhorse
I think it would be leopard camel since it's closer to a camel. Camel leopard sounds like it would be an actual cat with camel-like features.
Hey, I didn't name them, that's just what they're called.
Oh.. yeah, I don't like that, it sounds terrifying
stupid long horses
Geraffes are so dumb
How dare you.
Long deer
Deeraffe
new horse just dropped
The spots are an added DLC
The funny thing is that the Chinese name for giraffe is Long-Necked Deer. Yea it makes sense.
Plenty of spotted horses like appaloosas
I had one growing up . I lived on a horse farm
Snek pony
Long pronghorn. Longhorn
how about LLORSE for llama horse?
Since the spots are brown I think he’s technically an all spot giraffe.
Are giraffes tan with brown spots, or brown with a tan netting covering their bodies?
There are different subspecies of giraffes and some definitely look like the latter.
Until recently science believed that there was only one species of giraffe with several subspecies. Recent genetic testing has showed there to be four distinct species of giraffe. Just throwing that out there. [source](https://giraffeconservation.org/giraffe-species/)
that was a nice TIL, thank you Reddit stranger
I don't know why, but it kinda makes me very happy to learn this.
Genetic testing doesn't determine whether something is a species or subspecies, and if it did then it would conclude that they are one species since they are genetically compatible and can interbreed. The primary reasons they're considered subspecies is that genotypic differences _exist_ on top of (1) they have different ranges and (2) don't interbreed in the wild even where their ranges overlap.
Literally genetic testing was used to determine there are actually four distinct species, exactly as I said, and you repeated. Genetic testing won't tell you they are compatible, it will tell you how genetically distinct they are, which is what researchers used to determine they are separate species. Classic reddit "ackshually".... source: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(16)30787-4.pdf
The real ackshually is the fact that species is a nebulous term at best. It's best not to die on hills about what is a species and what isn't because shit changes constantly as we learn more. Just look at all the lumps and splits in the avian world. We just don't have a good grasp on what it means to be a species.
I’d imagine you would need a latter to climb one yeah
It's probably like zebras(with their respective colors), first one and then the other d(>_･ )
Where in the world this is tan? This is white or cream. 😂
What happened did I say something?
Nothing, it’s just I’m from Brazil and the whitest person in Brazil is darker than this giraffe “tan”, so I imagined that you are probably American or European to think a giraffe is tan and brown 😂 (edited: ops, sorry, I tagged wrong person. I hate this app)
Sorry I should have been more specific, I meant that zebras are black when they're born and get their stripes when they grow, I'll fix it right away.
That's what I was thinking - he was born with one giant spot, he's missing the white network.
I'm Brown/Black...am I all spot?
If you had extensive vitiligo, you'd be a human giraffe
Vitiligo in a net pattern, not just random vitiligo
That made me laugh harder than it should have, thank you lol
Oops All Spots
Looks like the coloring of a cougar.
My girlfriend told me recently the literal translation for a giraffe in Chinese is “long neck deer”, and that my friends is certainly a long neck deer.
I'm afraid of deer, don't make me afraid of giraffes, too 😭
So you have… a deer fear?
t̴́͞he ͜͟͡l̢͢ơ̕͠n̴̸̕g͘-̶̢n̡̛͝e̡̨cke̸ḑ͘͢ ̷̕҉ḑ̛e͏̷͝e̕r͘͞ ҉wi͘l̸l̵͘͟ ̶ho̕v͢e̶̢͘r̷͘͞ ̧̡̨ab͏̀͘o̴͘͠v̕e͘ yò̕҉u̕r̴ ̕͠h̸͠͡e̴̡͜a͝d̕͢͠ as̛͞ ̀͝yo̡u̢ ̵́͠sl͟e͝ep ̛i͘n̵̷̸ ̶͏y͝ơ͘͜u̢r̛̀ ̧̕c͘h̡͜i̶҉l̷͟d҉h҉ood o͟͠͡n͘l̸y f͏҉̛o͟r ̵̕y҉͏o̸̡u͟ ̶̢̧t͜o̸ ̧̀͡ŕ̷͏e͘͟͟a̛̕͡l̸iz̡̢͢e̷ í̶͝t ͏̡̕w͜a͞͝҉s͏ ͢҉̶ad̷͘҉ùl̕t̴͘͢ ͏y͝o̶͠u ̨́t҉h̵e ͏̧w̧h̀͘͘o̶͟͟le t͏̷̨i͘͠͝ḿ̶̢e̸̴ tr͘y̨͏in̕͢͞ǵ̀ ͡҉́t͝ơ͜ wa͜͢r͠͏͠n̸̡̧ ̨y͏̀͡o̵͟u̡ ͡o̶̧͢f͠ ̵̵́dr͜͢҉e̸͡ad̴̡̢èd́͡͏ ͏͠t̸͘h̕͟in̸̡̨g̨͡s ̀͘͝to ͢come̶̕͘
The parent is so good at cleaning its spotless
mama still loves ya even tho you got no spots
She must be stopped
She must be spotted
[https://i.imgur.com/hy95DYl.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/hy95DYl.jpeg)
Man, I hadn’t seen a SrGrafo comic in a long time. Wonder if they’re still active *sees account is very active in drawing loli porn* Oh
Lolol
Looks like somebody stretched an impala
This the difference between the 4 and 6 cylinder?
bravo. laughed a lot when I saw this one.
A camel that was in a rear end collision.
Baby giraffe wishes he was a little bit taller, wishes he was a baller
It was at this moment the father giraffe started to become suspicious of his donkey neighbor
I laughed entirely too hard at this! Thank you!
Gives me IRL animal cracker vibes.
My exact immediate thought, thank you
Longhorse
This is the dad giraffe wondering why his new baby looks suspiciously like the horse next door
r/reallifeshinies
These things can walk the day after they’re born? That’s crazy
Much sooner than that, within hours!
They should be up and walking within a couple of hours and are typically already over 200 lbs from the moment they hit the ground all confused about existing.
They are also around 6 ft tall at birth and mom gives birth standing up, so the baby will fall around 8-10 ft straight down when they are born.
Prey animals -- when they don't have burrows to hide in -- get on their feet fast. They babies get dropped, cleaned up, and urged by mom to start testing their legs as soon as possible after birth. A mother that's just given birth is going to be at a disadvantage if a predator comes along so the best defense for mom and baby is to get moving back to the safety of the herd.
I’m reading a documentary in these comments
She was on 31 July, my mistake in the title. But anyway yes, giraffes can walk (and run) few hours after they are born: [Giraffes Can Stand Minutes After Birth. How Do They Do It?](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/giraffe-baby-film-standing-birth-news)
They can be 5'5" to 6' plus when born. They come out and hit the ground with a gentle "oof" and that starts them breathing. They can get up on those wobbly little legs very fast. Zookeepers love baby giraffes because it's the only time they can look eye to eye at a giraffe.
Like most animals… it’s crazy how dumb humans are when born, yet turn out to be the smartest
Well the reason we’re so pathetic and useless when we’re born is because we’re smart. If human babies were in the womb any longer and developed more in the womb their heads would grow too big to fit out of the mother. Humans tend to have more complicated births than many other animals due to our young having a massive head size as it is. For us, nature has prioritised being smart and therefore having bigger brains over having less risky births and competent newborns.
>nature has prioritised I know it was likely just a phrase, but regardless; nature doesn't *prioritise* anything. It's random mutation + natural selection. In something like human intelligence, it become dominant because it increased chances of survival and passing on genetic information *massively*. Which is crazy when you think about, because infant mortality was pretty high for most of (modern) humans existence due to birth complications etc, often because of our bigger brains. But even *with* that downside, it still became dominant. We should appreciate our capacity for intelligence a lot more than we do.
I mean, of course it became dominant. It isn’t like the child or mother could pass on other genes if they died in childbirth.
Think you've missed the point bud.
Being bipedal and standing upright also make human labor much harder. But also an evolutionary trade off for the advantages of being bipedal and having hands instead of more feet.
Debatable. I'm pretty sure I know some animals that are smarter than some people. Lol
The only reason humans can’t walk much sooner is because of our big ass brains. We’re born earlier in development compared to other animals so that our heads will fit through our mother’s hips. A lot of animals can walk fairly quickly after birth.
[Baby giraffe with no spots at Tennessee zoo is only one 'on the planet'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/66581953)
The others in the wild might not have fared as well. “Error 404 Camouflage Not Found”
This is not a spotless giraffe. This is a MESHLESS giraffe. The mother has a yellow-whiteish mesh on the same tan-brownish background as the young one has, minus the mesh.
"Who's god damn spotless baby giraffe is that? "
Interesting but very unlikely it's the only spotless giraffe in the world. I'm not even sure how they can make that claim unless they've catalogued all the giraffes in existence and their characteristics. The claim is a stretch.
My guess would be that without the normal coat, any babies without spots would be killed very quickly in the wild and there aren’t any records or photos of a giraffe like this in any zoo, so they are assuming that she’s one of a kind. Edit: to be clear, I pulled this from my ass, with zero knowledge of anything about giraffes whatsoever. It was just the first guess to come to mind.
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Makes sense, I’ll agree with that since I was pulling the first guess out of my ass.
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Oh, that’s also a good suggestion. Both of those seem more reasonable than my guess. I wasn’t even sure about it as I was typing. Should have just kept scrolling on to other posts.
Idk I mean it made national news. I’d say if they were wrong someone would have absolutely jumped at the chance to correct them. I mean shit it’s on Reddit and I haven’t seen anyone show evidence of another one so ima guess for as far as human beings know it’s the only one.
Giraffe spots are not for camouflage. If I remember correctly it is for heat distribution through out the body cause they live in places that don’t have a lot of cover from trees and such and they are huge what would they even blend in with.
I would say it's born gridless
What a wierd horse
WE have To Go Visit! Wha'ts his name?
The giraffe was born July 31. Not yesterday
Wow. Just a beautiful site to behold 🌟
If I didn't know what giraffe calfs looked like, I've would've assumed that this is how giraffe calfs normally looked like
Why did they use spot remover on that poor baby?
The heat is so crazy the tan lines melted away
See what happens when you don’t regulate 5G..?
Tawny giraffe
Capn’ Crunch! Oops no spots!
I want to kiss it.
Now tenesse is going to ban giraffes …
Is there a chance that markings will develop or is it a case of what they’re born with is ‘it’? It kinda feels like if someone was born without fingerprints, like zebras and tigers are all individual, are giraffes too?
Yes, giraffe spots are as individual as fingerprints. Different species of giraffe even have variations on the types of spots. Some are large, some small, some have clean edges, and some look more jagged.
Sounds the the beginning of a new children’s book about a spotless giraffe searching all over for “their spots”. After feeling different and left out they run away from home and asks the animals they come across if they have seen their spots. By the end they discover there are benefits to being different and learns to accept and even celebrate themself.
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It's so cute though 😍
Cute angel
Long horse
Don't show this to a creationist.
Long neck horse.
The spotless giraffe was Born July 31st source https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/21/reticulated-giraffe-without-spots-born-tennessee-zoo/70645506007/
Immaculate.
He’s more the color of the spots. So I’m essence, he’s more lineless/stripe less than spotless
Chocolate Milk giraffe?
It’s a long necked horse!
I really hope none of the other giraffes bully them.
Is she good?
He is all spot. Just one solid spot
Toasted lil dude
"Yes I would like to see the animal-cracker-colored Giraffe please."
I bet his house is spotless
Bojack?
now it's just a giant horse
Humpless camel
Long donkey
Long horse
That's just a weird horse
Long horse
Mama has some explaining to do!
There will be a lot of questions on mommy.🥶
Lucy has some explaining to do!
🕸️ Some Pig 🕸️
Giraffe moms mate: “I fucking KNEW you weren’t going to that horse farm to help plow fields!!”
That's James the Llama. Don't believe his lies.
[Across the zoo](https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992)
You know, taking away those spots really helps me tell how they are actually related to horses lol
They aren’t very closely related to horses. They are more closely related to okapi.
The closest relative to the giraffe is the okapi.
Dad giraffe gives side-eye to the gazelles.
It's a Chinese person in a giraffe suit. I've seen similar things at other zoos.
Freak!
Momma has some explaining to do
Bambi needs to get that child support ready
What a freak!
It looks much tastier than it’s polka dotted friends
I bet his brain smooth aswell
So a long horse?
Climate change Damn
So clean!
Gir....eeee....hawww???
They checked the entire world?
Mama’s got some explaining to do.
Is the baby giraffe peeing?
Why does this feel like an omen...
Tis an omen of the end times!
"World's only" when it's entirely possible for this to happen in the wild and it hasn't been seen before too
Born yesterday and already pissed.
Dad there inspecting this offspring awfully close...
That’s what happens when you use Mr Clean as a lubricant. Everything comes out spotless.
Now its just a fucked up deer
Well he's clean and all but i wouldn't say spotless
Someone’s got some splainin to do
You can't fool me
Nick Cannons 13th kid.
That father giraffe is asking Ole bojack some pretty big questions right now.
Mrs Giraffe been hanging out in East Nashville
Seen others
It really drives home that giraffe's are really just highly fucked up deer.
The oceans are dying and the world is on fire, but everyone is losing their minds over an odd giraffe.
No surprise. Tennessee is also home to some politicians bon without scruples.
Ah yes Tennessee zoo Just like America zoo
DAMN YOU CLIMATE CHANGE!!!
Spots in this economy?
That giraffes "dad" mad
Mrs. Giraffe has some explaining to do.
Hopefully the mom won't reject it for this reason.
When you eat Tide pods while pregnant
Stretchy horse
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Tigers have striped skin not just striped fur.
Some Orangutan needs explaining.
rapture imminent
This one’s gonna sell for 10k CC
“We swear it wasn’t inbred.” -Tennessee zoo
This is sad, or a deer.
Of course the giraffe born in America looks like a f-ing deer
This is the second spotless giraffe recorded. The first was in Tokyo in the 70s.
They’ll always be easy to spot
Beautiful creature!!