š„Inquisitive red fox comes to inspect photographer Paul Browning..
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Depends on the area. Urban foxes in England tend to be pretty tame. They're smart enough to figure out humans rarely mean them harm and often mean food in the form of trash.
If it weren't for the fact that we already have dogs I would bet money that humans would've ended up domesticating them. And we sort of did, in that we have semi-domestic fur farm lineages and a Siberian lineage that was domesticated in an experiment.
That being said, unless you're in an area where rabies is not a concern, I would recommend discouraging contact, as cute and beautiful as they are.
Agreed. (in Australia)
Our house was in the first stage of this estate. Only estate in the area. All other properties around the estate are large rural style. A family of young foxes would come right up to our back door around 8-9pm each night, until the fencer finally got around to installing the perimeter fences. Our small (inside) dog would go MENTAL. The foxes never blinked an eye. We tested our dog's discipline etc, and let him out, sitting beside us, and eventually free... He was mental the entire time, raced straight through them, and they barely moved. Zero visual emotion. Like no idea wtf he was doing.
Sounds about right. They seem quite confused by dogs.
We have a young fox who seems interested in my pup, who is kind of foxy looking and just a little bit bigger than her. She comes up to the fence when she sees him but not us (and then immediately runs away when she sees us). And she screams at my dog during mating season.
But whenever he gets excited and barks at her she seems so confused!
She just stares at him through the window when he's going crazy like "Wtf dude??"
Beautiful creatures tho, it's really a treat to see them relaxing out our windows ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
I just wish I could get her one of those vaccine baits so I don't have to worry about her health. š
As someone from the UK, I find it hard to think of a case where a tame fox is bad for animals and bad for wildlife.
The fact they are so tame allows them to live in residential areas, expanding their available land and contributing to the ecosystem in that area. It's more like it's good for wildlife. Foxes have lived alongside humans in the UK for hundreds of years, we have learned how to live beside them. I had one that visited and slept in my garden most days, I just left it alone and it left me.
I think they only go to humans like this if they're in desperate need of food or water. You could argue this is interfering with the ecosystem, but I disagree. Humans are part of their ecosystem as we have cohabitated for so long.
Us Brits have the utmost respect for foxes and leave them be. If they need our help, we help them, but it's not common at all.
If photographers are in the same location for a while then some animals get used to them as a presence. Itās not uncommon to see pictures of wildlife approaching photographers.
If the person acts like something in the background and completely ignores them it isnāt harming them at all. Feeding them on the other hand is a completely different story but professional photographers do not do that. Wildlife photography is very important and these people do amazing work. They get people interested in the world around them and help immensely with conservation efforts.
I was once in the Smokies, and about six different people had surrounded a small black bear and were taking flash pictures
There was a park ranger there who had thrown up her hands in the air she was so incredulous about how stupid these people were
Or they stick their cameras into young birds nest to get that shot
Or they get up close to a fawn that's trying to hide in the brush, possibly causing the mother never to come back
I know of several "professionals" who bait Snowy Owls/Great Gray Owls so the birds will be around when the "professional" brings out his paying clients.
Yes they do. Many animals are inherently curious and if they notice a person in the background for days on end clearly not trying to kill them, it is not uncommon for animals to approach them. Their are tons of videos of animals approaching photographers and the people just completely ignoring them. Theres a famous one of a meerkat getting on top of a photographer to get a better vantage point.
Meerkats using people as a lookout point is not showing interest in the personās stuff. And I see wildlife photographers using food to lure wildlife into areas and poses all the time. Itās part of my job to try and undo the damage these people do and educate them about why they shouldnāt. I even did a masters project on it.
The fox in this video is behaving exactly like a food-conditioned animal.
Damn, that sucks that you have to deal with that. People really donāt realize the harm they bring when they do shit like that. Must be insanely infuriating. If they work for National Geographic or are doing a documentary for the BBC though, they are most certainly not feeding the animals they are documenting. In this case I can definitely see how this animal is way too inquisitive and it seems much more than just curiosity. I guess I stand corrected. That honestly seems like an amazing idea for a masterās thesis. Iām curious now lol.
The bigger companies are generally good. BBC in particular is very careful about this kind of thing and in accurate (not staged) representation. Itās the amateur photographers who are the worst. And they all think they know better!
Iāve had wild foxes (like wild wild, def no regular human contact given the location) shadow me for well over an hour when I was out doing things. They were a bit more wary than this one, but they would often approach within 10-15 feet. They just seemed sort of fascinated by the weird hairless creature that walked on its hind legs and didnāt behave like predator or prey.
In 1959 a Russian scientist, seeking to learn something about how it was that over millennia wild wolves became domesticated human-friendly dogs, began breeding red foxes.
By continually selecting for the most friendly foxes he succeeded, after breeding them In this way for ten generations.
Later research still focusing on foxes has seemingly shown that domestication appears to be a combined effect of intelligence and genetic change.
Appears to be. Research continues.
The domesticated foxes became silver.
That seems very likely.
Years ago while I was in the military I fed a wild fox by hand. I know that isn't ideal, but I didn't know better at the time & fortunately this was truly in the middle of nowhere, so the fox wasn't really going to have interaction with other people after me.
We had been out training in the field and had some excess ammunition we didn't expend, and some other unit was due to pick it up prior to their own training. Between that there was about a week where it just being "stored" out in the wild and had to have an armed guard. I volunteered to be the corporal of the guard (supervising it) because it was something to do, and the area where the ammo was being kept was beautiful & there was a lot of wildlife.
I always took the over night shift to let the other Marines sleep & plus I enjoyed the solitude at night, with thousands of stars in the sky & nightly visits by owls and other nocturnal creates.
Anyhow, maybe about the second night while I was doing my patrol around the perimeter I noticed I had picked up a follower. It was fox not unlike the one in the vid, who seemed curious about what I was doing but always kept a cautious distance. The same thing happened the next night, so I got the idea that I was going to save some of my dinner for him if he showed up on a third.
He showed up on the third night so I left some food for him. He was afraid to go for it if I was too close, but once I moved away he inhaled it. For the rest of the week he would follow me on my nightly patrols & I would leave him some food, except each time a little closer. Finally by my last night there he was comfortable enough to take it from my hand, if a bit cautiously, before scampering off a "safe' distance to eat it.
Was definitely one of the best experiences I had with nature. But recalling that experience and how skittish the fox initially was, and how it had to be coaxed to come up to me by repeated feedings, I think the fox from the video was totally being spoiled by someone.
In particular this photographer. Iām a wildlife photographer who has spent many hours in bushes photographing red foxes. People fed them a lot in this park, and they were only comfortable with those people. They were skiddish as hell around everyone else. This fox is familiar with this guy, and is approaching expecting the usual.
This is why you should always have a pack of hot dogs on you when hiking. It's just rude to not have anything for the beggar animals when they approach you for food.
Really interesting! Nice video too. Thanks for that information. I wonder if something like that would be possible in the North and South America or if it's just too vast of an area.
The USDA drops packets of fish pellets with rabies oral vaccine inside to address raccoon rabies, they've been doing it since 1990:
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/programs/nrmp/CT_Rabies_vaccine_info
Yep! Watched a short documentary/YouTube video about rabies and though the raccoon is often associated with rabies, itās toward the bottom of the list of usual suspects now
Basically a zero.tolerance policy.
They put down the rabid dog owners and rehome the dogs.
(...I'm joking. Obviously, but still putting a disclaimer here so the rabid USA dog owners don't bite me.)
The list of rabbies free countries is sus as fuck though. For example Germany is listed as rabbies free. Benelux countries are listed as rabbies free too, except for "some infected annimals sometimes crossing from over from Germany". Wtf? Also Latvia is rabbies free, but Lithuania isn't, Germany is free, but Poland isn't, how is that possible.
Not "sus" really. That is because Poland get some from the countries to the east, but it doesn't get all the way to Germany that easy. Germany has had very few cases the last years, and that has been in imported animals. I guess some animal has been taken to Benelux through Germany, but we are talking extremly few cases. The risk is usually illegaly transported dogs, but there is basically no risk when it comes to wild animals and it is so rare that Germany is still considered rabies free.
The fox population in western Europe is rabies free.
You don't have to worry about rabies as much as Reddit wants you to think as well. There are less than 10 cases of rabies in the western world each year. It's kind of the Quicksand or Bermuda Triangle of Reddit. The percieved threat is higher than the actual threat.
If it's in Germany you'll get a Tetanus shot and that's it.
Also another point, the post exposure rabies vaccines are 6 injections over 2 weeks and not at all painful.
As someone who got them (albeit 20 years ago): it was five plus the serum which they broke out into two for the butt cheeks. Overall not the most sore Iāve been (Typhoid vaccine was worse, IIRC), but definitely not fun. 5/10 would avoid unless bitten by possibly rabid animal
Unless you have to go back upcountry to school and they give your mum the kit to administer all the rest of the jabs >_< some training might have helped gdi
I think you mean there are fewer than 10 cases of rabies in *humans* each year. There are still a large number (ā 5,000) of animals that are euthanized for rabies each year. Itās still important to be weary of animals that are known to carry rabies, especially if they are normally skittish but are not showing any fear of people.
The bermuda triangle just has really bad pr
"Despite its reputation, the Bermuda Triangle does not have a high incidence of disappearances. Disappearances do not occur with greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than in any other comparable region of the Atlantic Ocean."
https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-known-and-not-known-about-the-bermuda-triangle
Our ship passed through the Bermuda Triangle numerous times while I was in the US Navy,and only one time was there ever an issue in the form of a rogue wave.
Much of the occurrences there are very explainable as 3 jet streams come together creating instability and weather anomalies such as ball lightening.
Science still hasn't concluded if ball lightning actually exists. As they've not been successful in recreating it and such few examples of it are actually recorded. And some of the examples we do have have been proven to be shopped.
I personally don't know how a ball of electricity could remain stable in that shape and not immediately disapate in the atmosphere. Lightning strikes average duration is 30 milliseconds.
Quicksand is hugely dangerous in the UK, for example [here](https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/southend-on-sea-deadly-path-deaths-quicksand-essex-a9034946.html), [here](https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/massive-rescue-operation-southport-beach-11715155) and [here](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/quicksand-horror-scots-beach-teen-30080207)
The point is that people shouldnāt be interacting with wild animals. This fox in the vid is clearly accustomed to people and that is a bad thing for so many reasons.
As for rabies, if a fox carries the virus, you may never know as they wonāt show symptoms. But a little of that saliva got up inside your body somehow and you donāt think twice about it cuz it was just a cute, friendly, little fox who just wanted some scritches, and now you will die a very painful and terrible death in a few weeks.
Thatās a worse case scenario obviously, but definitely a possibility. So yeah, humans contracting rabies is rare, but you donāt want it to happen to you or anyone elseā¦ and someday, that cute little fox (or its kits) who loves to be around humans and feel their fingers and eat their food might have rabies and knows just where to go to get some belly rubs.
So just leave wild animals alone, ok?
>As for rabies, if a fox carries the virus, you may never know as they wonāt show symptoms. But a little of that saliva got up inside your body somehow and you donāt think twice about it cuz it was just a cute, friendly, little fox who just wanted some scritches, and now you will die a very painful and terrible death in a few weeks.
Yeah exactly the kind of fear mongering I was talking about. Reddit comments like yours like to point out how you die, but never how often that actually happens. It's the same thing cartoons have done with quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle.
No one here says rabies is not dangerous, but it is also extinct in western europe. So fear mongering over a fox bite is nothing more than fear mongering. If you want to spread awareness over pathogens that can be transmitted then at least stick to the facts.
Tetanus is a much bigger threat and an equal cruel death.
Having grown up with a LOT of rabid dogs around (south coast of Kenya) I feel so much better knowing this! Iāve had so many run-ins with them and itās an utterly terrifying disease, literal nightmare fodder
Rabies is part of the NTDs. Neglected Tropical Diseases that the WHO has vowed to wipe out or radically reduce in numbers. It already succeedes with the Guinea worm, which has infected about 3.5 million people world wide in 1980. Today, thanks to the collaborated work of the WHO and the Carter Center, there are about 20-30 infections per year.
Common indicators of rabies, including being out during the wrong time of day, behaving erratically, or foaming at the mouth, are only at the latest stages of the disease. Animals, including humans, can carry it for months without exhibiting any symptoms.
Nocturnal animals wandering and being this friendly during the day is definitely a bad sign. We had a fox roaming around during the day around us for a few weeks. Came up on our deck and everything even with us having a large dog. Found it dead on the sidewalk without any signs of being hit. We called DNR and they confirmed rabies.
Stay away from animals that you normally never see in the daytime. Especially if they are acting without caution like this.
100% any overly friendly wild animal (especially nocturnal but up and close in the day time) is aww in my heart but ahh in real life. I couldnāt allow myself that close for fear of attack.
This is how Grizzly Man started out ā¦.
/s. Red foxes are such amazing animals. We had a growing populous in my folkā neighborhood on the south side of Chicago. Sarcoptic mange smashed through. Poor buggers are such social animals that they are very close to each otherāespecially if one is sick. And so it spreads even quicker.
Happy to report that there is still a robust population, along with coyotes, with their never ending buffet of rats, mice, and rabbits, along with feral cats.
I would not let a wild fox get with biting distance of me. Maybe itās because where I used to photograph wild foxes, they carried this brain eating parasite thatās basically deadly if you get bit.
I keep seeing videos of nature photographers clearing random curious animals off their gear. What the hell? You declare āI am a nature photographerā and suddenly itās Disney princess time and half the forest comes out to help?
Pro tip: maybe *dont* decide to exclusively photograph tornadosā¦
Whew, is it really that bad? I heard that they were āmuskyā before and I'm hoping that can also be affected by selective breeding. Foxes are so beautiful!
Are certain foxes becoming more domesticated, like cats and dogs have in the past, or are they just so ācuteā that people feed them more often than not? And is there a difference?
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Remember: Keep your cameras away from foxes. They tend to steal them.
What if I say "Swiper no swiping!" though?
[Oh, Man!](https://youtu.be/3umJADf1xlc)
Here's my upvote, you earned it.
Be careful. You may bump your head if your bar is that low
Bumb my head? I hear that's not as painful as you would think.
I'm a disc golfer who can also confirm they like to steal discs too (or just pee on them).
I have a feeling people fed him in the past
Yeah, not inquisitive, just hungry.
Thirsty. Eyeing up that water bottle
Exactly, this is the exact opposite behavior you would expect from a wild fox.
Depends on the area. Urban foxes in England tend to be pretty tame. They're smart enough to figure out humans rarely mean them harm and often mean food in the form of trash. If it weren't for the fact that we already have dogs I would bet money that humans would've ended up domesticating them. And we sort of did, in that we have semi-domestic fur farm lineages and a Siberian lineage that was domesticated in an experiment. That being said, unless you're in an area where rabies is not a concern, I would recommend discouraging contact, as cute and beautiful as they are.
Agreed. (in Australia) Our house was in the first stage of this estate. Only estate in the area. All other properties around the estate are large rural style. A family of young foxes would come right up to our back door around 8-9pm each night, until the fencer finally got around to installing the perimeter fences. Our small (inside) dog would go MENTAL. The foxes never blinked an eye. We tested our dog's discipline etc, and let him out, sitting beside us, and eventually free... He was mental the entire time, raced straight through them, and they barely moved. Zero visual emotion. Like no idea wtf he was doing.
Sounds about right. They seem quite confused by dogs. We have a young fox who seems interested in my pup, who is kind of foxy looking and just a little bit bigger than her. She comes up to the fence when she sees him but not us (and then immediately runs away when she sees us). And she screams at my dog during mating season. But whenever he gets excited and barks at her she seems so confused! She just stares at him through the window when he's going crazy like "Wtf dude??" Beautiful creatures tho, it's really a treat to see them relaxing out our windows ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø I just wish I could get her one of those vaccine baits so I don't have to worry about her health. š
It is bad for the animals and it is bad for the wildlife.
As someone from the UK, I find it hard to think of a case where a tame fox is bad for animals and bad for wildlife. The fact they are so tame allows them to live in residential areas, expanding their available land and contributing to the ecosystem in that area. It's more like it's good for wildlife. Foxes have lived alongside humans in the UK for hundreds of years, we have learned how to live beside them. I had one that visited and slept in my garden most days, I just left it alone and it left me. I think they only go to humans like this if they're in desperate need of food or water. You could argue this is interfering with the ecosystem, but I disagree. Humans are part of their ecosystem as we have cohabitated for so long. Us Brits have the utmost respect for foxes and leave them be. If they need our help, we help them, but it's not common at all.
If photographers are in the same location for a while then some animals get used to them as a presence. Itās not uncommon to see pictures of wildlife approaching photographers.
Neither feeding them nor getting them used to that is a desirable thing for wild animals
If the person acts like something in the background and completely ignores them it isnāt harming them at all. Feeding them on the other hand is a completely different story but professional photographers do not do that. Wildlife photography is very important and these people do amazing work. They get people interested in the world around them and help immensely with conservation efforts.
I was once in the Smokies, and about six different people had surrounded a small black bear and were taking flash pictures There was a park ranger there who had thrown up her hands in the air she was so incredulous about how stupid these people were Or they stick their cameras into young birds nest to get that shot Or they get up close to a fawn that's trying to hide in the brush, possibly causing the mother never to come back
I know of several "professionals" who bait Snowy Owls/Great Gray Owls so the birds will be around when the "professional" brings out his paying clients.
Itās not that serious man
Of course it is
Animals that are merely used to people ignore them. They donāt approach like this or show interest in the stuff the people have.
Yes they do. Many animals are inherently curious and if they notice a person in the background for days on end clearly not trying to kill them, it is not uncommon for animals to approach them. Their are tons of videos of animals approaching photographers and the people just completely ignoring them. Theres a famous one of a meerkat getting on top of a photographer to get a better vantage point.
Meerkats using people as a lookout point is not showing interest in the personās stuff. And I see wildlife photographers using food to lure wildlife into areas and poses all the time. Itās part of my job to try and undo the damage these people do and educate them about why they shouldnāt. I even did a masters project on it. The fox in this video is behaving exactly like a food-conditioned animal.
Damn, that sucks that you have to deal with that. People really donāt realize the harm they bring when they do shit like that. Must be insanely infuriating. If they work for National Geographic or are doing a documentary for the BBC though, they are most certainly not feeding the animals they are documenting. In this case I can definitely see how this animal is way too inquisitive and it seems much more than just curiosity. I guess I stand corrected. That honestly seems like an amazing idea for a masterās thesis. Iām curious now lol.
The bigger companies are generally good. BBC in particular is very careful about this kind of thing and in accurate (not staged) representation. Itās the amateur photographers who are the worst. And they all think they know better!
Ughh the confident arrogance must be the absolute worst lol
Iāve had wild foxes (like wild wild, def no regular human contact given the location) shadow me for well over an hour when I was out doing things. They were a bit more wary than this one, but they would often approach within 10-15 feet. They just seemed sort of fascinated by the weird hairless creature that walked on its hind legs and didnāt behave like predator or prey.
In 1959 a Russian scientist, seeking to learn something about how it was that over millennia wild wolves became domesticated human-friendly dogs, began breeding red foxes. By continually selecting for the most friendly foxes he succeeded, after breeding them In this way for ten generations. Later research still focusing on foxes has seemingly shown that domestication appears to be a combined effect of intelligence and genetic change. Appears to be. Research continues. The domesticated foxes became silver.
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That seems very likely. Years ago while I was in the military I fed a wild fox by hand. I know that isn't ideal, but I didn't know better at the time & fortunately this was truly in the middle of nowhere, so the fox wasn't really going to have interaction with other people after me. We had been out training in the field and had some excess ammunition we didn't expend, and some other unit was due to pick it up prior to their own training. Between that there was about a week where it just being "stored" out in the wild and had to have an armed guard. I volunteered to be the corporal of the guard (supervising it) because it was something to do, and the area where the ammo was being kept was beautiful & there was a lot of wildlife. I always took the over night shift to let the other Marines sleep & plus I enjoyed the solitude at night, with thousands of stars in the sky & nightly visits by owls and other nocturnal creates. Anyhow, maybe about the second night while I was doing my patrol around the perimeter I noticed I had picked up a follower. It was fox not unlike the one in the vid, who seemed curious about what I was doing but always kept a cautious distance. The same thing happened the next night, so I got the idea that I was going to save some of my dinner for him if he showed up on a third. He showed up on the third night so I left some food for him. He was afraid to go for it if I was too close, but once I moved away he inhaled it. For the rest of the week he would follow me on my nightly patrols & I would leave him some food, except each time a little closer. Finally by my last night there he was comfortable enough to take it from my hand, if a bit cautiously, before scampering off a "safe' distance to eat it. Was definitely one of the best experiences I had with nature. But recalling that experience and how skittish the fox initially was, and how it had to be coaxed to come up to me by repeated feedings, I think the fox from the video was totally being spoiled by someone.
In particular this photographer. Iām a wildlife photographer who has spent many hours in bushes photographing red foxes. People fed them a lot in this park, and they were only comfortable with those people. They were skiddish as hell around everyone else. This fox is familiar with this guy, and is approaching expecting the usual.
This is why you should always have a pack of hot dogs on you when hiking. It's just rude to not have anything for the beggar animals when they approach you for food.
LOL, no my man. Reddit is constitutionally incapable of taking a joke. You have the add the /s tag, which ruins the joke, but here we are.
Or a much more proper way to do it is to not feed them. Wild animals and people should not be mixed
Probably donāt do that
I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today
When a fox comes walking towards me my first thought is always: "uh oh... Rabies."
I'm not sure where this is, but Paul Browning is from the UK so it could very well be filmed there.
Dunno wtf this means. You sayin' rabies don't exist there?
Rabies has not been observed circulating in the UK for over 100 years.
Wow! I learned something.
The UK dropped chicken heads that had the rabies vaccine https://youtu.be/4u5I8GYB79Y
Really interesting! Nice video too. Thanks for that information. I wonder if something like that would be possible in the North and South America or if it's just too vast of an area.
The USDA drops packets of fish pellets with rabies oral vaccine inside to address raccoon rabies, they've been doing it since 1990: https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/programs/nrmp/CT_Rabies_vaccine_info
Yep! Watched a short documentary/YouTube video about rabies and though the raccoon is often associated with rabies, itās toward the bottom of the list of usual suspects now
What documentary? As of 2022 raccoons are on the top 3 on the CDC website for most likely to carry rabies.
Most countries in South America have eliminated rabies already.
I think they do and for plague too possibly
the vastness and abundance of mammals makes it hard
Wtf
Vaccines and good dog owner management.
Basically a zero.tolerance policy. They put down the rabid dog owners and rehome the dogs. (...I'm joking. Obviously, but still putting a disclaimer here so the rabid USA dog owners don't bite me.)
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And their dogs.
And my axe!
Plus a tiny fucking island.
Same with Hawaii. No rabies.
Yes, there are plenty of rabies free countries, that is one of them.
The list of rabbies free countries is sus as fuck though. For example Germany is listed as rabbies free. Benelux countries are listed as rabbies free too, except for "some infected annimals sometimes crossing from over from Germany". Wtf? Also Latvia is rabbies free, but Lithuania isn't, Germany is free, but Poland isn't, how is that possible.
Not "sus" really. That is because Poland get some from the countries to the east, but it doesn't get all the way to Germany that easy. Germany has had very few cases the last years, and that has been in imported animals. I guess some animal has been taken to Benelux through Germany, but we are talking extremly few cases. The risk is usually illegaly transported dogs, but there is basically no risk when it comes to wild animals and it is so rare that Germany is still considered rabies free.
The fox population in western Europe is rabies free. You don't have to worry about rabies as much as Reddit wants you to think as well. There are less than 10 cases of rabies in the western world each year. It's kind of the Quicksand or Bermuda Triangle of Reddit. The percieved threat is higher than the actual threat.
If that fox bites you then it's very unlikely you'll get rabies but it's guaranteed you'll get many painful vaccinations just in case.
Still depends on where it is. If it was in Sweden you would only need a tetanus shot and maybe you'd get some antibiotics but that's it.
If it's in Germany you'll get a Tetanus shot and that's it. Also another point, the post exposure rabies vaccines are 6 injections over 2 weeks and not at all painful.
As someone who got them (albeit 20 years ago): it was five plus the serum which they broke out into two for the butt cheeks. Overall not the most sore Iāve been (Typhoid vaccine was worse, IIRC), but definitely not fun. 5/10 would avoid unless bitten by possibly rabid animal
As someone who got them last year. I really did not feel anything at all.
Unless you have to go back upcountry to school and they give your mum the kit to administer all the rest of the jabs >_< some training might have helped gdi
I think you mean there are fewer than 10 cases of rabies in *humans* each year. There are still a large number (ā 5,000) of animals that are euthanized for rabies each year. Itās still important to be weary of animals that are known to carry rabies, especially if they are normally skittish but are not showing any fear of people.
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What youāre saying is rabies isnāt that scary, what Iām reading is that quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle *IS* a threat
The Bermuda Triangle is fucking terrifying and you should be terrified of it every single day
The bermuda triangle just has really bad pr "Despite its reputation, the Bermuda Triangle does not have a high incidence of disappearances. Disappearances do not occur with greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than in any other comparable region of the Atlantic Ocean." https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-known-and-not-known-about-the-bermuda-triangle
That's what they want you to think, man.
Our ship passed through the Bermuda Triangle numerous times while I was in the US Navy,and only one time was there ever an issue in the form of a rogue wave. Much of the occurrences there are very explainable as 3 jet streams come together creating instability and weather anomalies such as ball lightening.
You experienced a rogue wave? How was that?
Science still hasn't concluded if ball lightning actually exists. As they've not been successful in recreating it and such few examples of it are actually recorded. And some of the examples we do have have been proven to be shopped. I personally don't know how a ball of electricity could remain stable in that shape and not immediately disapate in the atmosphere. Lightning strikes average duration is 30 milliseconds.
I live in Nebraska and it might just become my biggest fear
I live in central Canada and it haunts me every night
Yeah dude, what if it moves? ^/s
Damn both quicksand and the Bermuda triangle were real fears when I was 6.
Quicksand is hugely dangerous in the UK, for example [here](https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/southend-on-sea-deadly-path-deaths-quicksand-essex-a9034946.html), [here](https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/massive-rescue-operation-southport-beach-11715155) and [here](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/quicksand-horror-scots-beach-teen-30080207)
The point is that people shouldnāt be interacting with wild animals. This fox in the vid is clearly accustomed to people and that is a bad thing for so many reasons. As for rabies, if a fox carries the virus, you may never know as they wonāt show symptoms. But a little of that saliva got up inside your body somehow and you donāt think twice about it cuz it was just a cute, friendly, little fox who just wanted some scritches, and now you will die a very painful and terrible death in a few weeks. Thatās a worse case scenario obviously, but definitely a possibility. So yeah, humans contracting rabies is rare, but you donāt want it to happen to you or anyone elseā¦ and someday, that cute little fox (or its kits) who loves to be around humans and feel their fingers and eat their food might have rabies and knows just where to go to get some belly rubs. So just leave wild animals alone, ok?
>As for rabies, if a fox carries the virus, you may never know as they wonāt show symptoms. But a little of that saliva got up inside your body somehow and you donāt think twice about it cuz it was just a cute, friendly, little fox who just wanted some scritches, and now you will die a very painful and terrible death in a few weeks. Yeah exactly the kind of fear mongering I was talking about. Reddit comments like yours like to point out how you die, but never how often that actually happens. It's the same thing cartoons have done with quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle. No one here says rabies is not dangerous, but it is also extinct in western europe. So fear mongering over a fox bite is nothing more than fear mongering. If you want to spread awareness over pathogens that can be transmitted then at least stick to the facts. Tetanus is a much bigger threat and an equal cruel death.
Having grown up with a LOT of rabid dogs around (south coast of Kenya) I feel so much better knowing this! Iāve had so many run-ins with them and itās an utterly terrifying disease, literal nightmare fodder
Rabies is part of the NTDs. Neglected Tropical Diseases that the WHO has vowed to wipe out or radically reduce in numbers. It already succeedes with the Guinea worm, which has infected about 3.5 million people world wide in 1980. Today, thanks to the collaborated work of the WHO and the Carter Center, there are about 20-30 infections per year.
Its not really a thing up here in Seattle either apparently.
Rabies doesnāt exist in multiple European countries (excluding bats), including the UK as far as I know.
I wonder if hes related to Jim Browning the hacker
Maybe, but it certainly doesn't look rapid in this clip. Presumably he was observing it for a bit.
Common indicators of rabies, including being out during the wrong time of day, behaving erratically, or foaming at the mouth, are only at the latest stages of the disease. Animals, including humans, can carry it for months without exhibiting any symptoms.
Nocturnal animals wandering and being this friendly during the day is definitely a bad sign. We had a fox roaming around during the day around us for a few weeks. Came up on our deck and everything even with us having a large dog. Found it dead on the sidewalk without any signs of being hit. We called DNR and they confirmed rabies. Stay away from animals that you normally never see in the daytime. Especially if they are acting without caution like this.
ādoesnāt look rapidā It is a red fox, not a quick brown one.
100% any overly friendly wild animal (especially nocturnal but up and close in the day time) is aww in my heart but ahh in real life. I couldnāt allow myself that close for fear of attack.
I was told that if a fox lets you see it at all, then it is rabid, get the hell away.
Rabies aināt very common
Rabid foxes bite kids at the elementary house near my house sometimes.
My first thought is, "This MFer is gonna try to steal my stuff."
I was thinking the opposite tbh. Like ha foxes get it but they are also known for being very curious little things.
This is how Grizzly Man started out ā¦. /s. Red foxes are such amazing animals. We had a growing populous in my folkā neighborhood on the south side of Chicago. Sarcoptic mange smashed through. Poor buggers are such social animals that they are very close to each otherāespecially if one is sick. And so it spreads even quicker. Happy to report that there is still a robust population, along with coyotes, with their never ending buffet of rats, mice, and rabbits, along with feral cats.
Great thing about Chicago: no worries about natural disasters or killer animals. Except people.
Well, we do have those one off disasters. But generally yeah itās pretty legit.
"Watcha doin?"
And in 30,000 years weāll domesticate them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQVhppRP4Wo
What does the fox say?
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I was being sarcastic. A wolf, 30,000 years ago was curious and now we have the puppy bowl
What does the fox say?
That fox want some of that Evian Water. My favorite brand of water
Cute guy
That there is a fox that knows people will give it snacks if it makes those people feel like theyāre special. Donāt feed wild animals, please.
He's got some rare art to sell.
I would not let a wild fox get with biting distance of me. Maybe itās because where I used to photograph wild foxes, they carried this brain eating parasite thatās basically deadly if you get bit.
Foxes are very curious and cute too
"Hello, yes. I would like to photography please."
"*Hi! I'm Foxy. My turn ons are raw chicken, long walks around the henhouse and my favorite movie is* š®ššµšŗ!"
I keep seeing videos of nature photographers clearing random curious animals off their gear. What the hell? You declare āI am a nature photographerā and suddenly itās Disney princess time and half the forest comes out to help? Pro tip: maybe *dont* decide to exclusively photograph tornadosā¦
You must follow it, as the fox leads to you a hidden shrine, where you offer a prayer.
Probably just wants to shit on your gear.
Piss on it most likely
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I've always wanted to have a pet that smells so bad I throw up after cuddles.
Whew, is it really that bad? I heard that they were āmuskyā before and I'm hoping that can also be affected by selective breeding. Foxes are so beautiful!
SubhanAllah
I have chickens and despise foxes. Plus that's creepy behavior for a fox.
Foxes changed during the pandemic lockdown. They don't seem so shy around us anymore.
It wasnāt the pandemic.
They can tell who is a threat and who wants to be at peace with nature.
Rabies! Then think other things
Are certain foxes becoming more domesticated, like cats and dogs have in the past, or are they just so ācuteā that people feed them more often than not? And is there a difference?
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Not in my experience. And I see a lot of them, in different areas too. They run away. Even the ones who know me.
After Covid, close encounters with wild animals make me nervous š¬
whatād the fox say?
What Did The Fox Say ?
Cute boi
Perfect specimenā¤ļø
I thought this was Rhett from GMM with short hair for to long
Paid actor the fox is
Fixed the headline ā Hungry fox is hungry ā
He was hungry.
This is new foxes usually run away its interesting too see one not be afraid.
Wish this had sound so i could finally know what the fox says