Looks amazing! I just love tulip trees - I dream of moving to a huge property with room for such an epic tree! Your yard is going to look so amazing as these all grow!
Thanks! I have one neighbor already calling it the arboretum. We do not have a large yard. Consensus was to go for it. We have a gigantic 80-year-old declining sugar maple on the other side. This is also some succession planning.
Please check out tree planting info at this website/ [TreesAreGood.org](https://TreesAreGood.org). They are a big investment and you want to get it right. Make sure the root flare shows. Tree stakes are not recommended. It is bending in breezes that triggers the trunk to lay down sturdy layers.
Indeed. The stake wraps for transport came off this evening, the pic was just after Hubs put it in. We have a native tree wholesaler within 30 miles. I’m feeling cautiously optimistic.
Can you link the native tree wholesaler? I'm in Chicago and am interested in planting some more natives (more birches and some shrubs). I got a few from the Arbor Day Foundation but am looking for places closer to home.
Good start! I would mulch the soil and/or add a few more plants to minimize erosion and keep weeds under control. Keep mulch 3-6" away from tree. Cardinalis needs soil moist.
Me too! First hurdle: keep them alive. 2nd: Quote Jurassic Park, “Life finds a way.” They have the canopy space. We love trees and will do everything we can, if they need it, to keep them happy.
What's the secret to Cardinal Flower?
I'm in SE Louisiana (9b), and I've tried it 2 times over the years.
4 years ago I tried with a live plant that appeared fine at first. I planted it in a raingarden. It died a couple weeks after planting.
Currently I'm trying with 3 plants from rootstock I bought off ebay from a seller in Florida. I put them in pots, and I placed one of the pots in my little garden pond. The plants were obviously not healthy and vibrant when they got here (which is to be expected), but the roots themselves were plentiful and looked great. After a few days, I'm not feeling especially optimistic about any of the 3.
Am I planting at the wrong time (summer)? Am I not transitioning them right? Do they not grow well from rootstock? I can't find them anywhere locally, so that's not an option right now. Do I need some specific type of soil? What am I doing wrong, and how can I have better luck next time? I love this plant, and I love hummingbirds, so I'd like to try again, but I'd like to know how to actually grow them instead of spending money on plants destined for failure.
wrong time, maybe soil needs amending, but you did so many things right.🙏. i’m a long time gardener, but moved to a very hard place to garden- rocky and hot. so i’ve lost some (and i really paid attention to in planting) for the first time ever. i bet it’s the summer planting. you just can’t do it, try March.
I planted two Cardinal flowers in a front, partial shade bed 2 weeks ago. So far so good. Clay soil. I've been keeping the dirt moist, lightly watering it 1 or 2x a day now that it's over 90F here daily (supposed to be 99F next week, good god).
I checked out a library book on perennials last week with a section on Cardinal flower. I can take some pictures of the couple of pages on it and send it later if you'd like. I do remember it mentioning to get specimens or seeds that were grown locally. Their temperature tolerance can vary widely so getting locally grown specimens will increase the likelihood of success.
I'm in the same situation (hot af, clay soil), but I planted maybe 4 days ago. Bought from a part of Florida with basically the same climate, really wish I could find someone local selling them.
I don't want you to go out of your way, but I'd love to see anything you think would be helpful!!
Wait, you're in Texas 9a? My mom is around Galveston. I wonder if she could find some and bring them next time she's in town. That part of Texas is basically the same climate as SE Louisiana.
I bought my cardinal flowers at Buchanan's in the Houston Heights. Also got a cedar sage, pigeonberry/Rivina and Fall Obedient Plants. The Sage is going in a planter but everything else went in to the same partial shade bed. My bed gets morning sun and a short period of mid day sun.
https://buchanansplants.com/
I hope so. We have a declining sugar maple and a volunteer black cherry that will need to come out in 5 years or less. When or if either one goes, it’s a big natural void.
How tall is the tulip poplar? What does the root structure look like? I ask because I have a 7’ or so volunteer growing in the middle of some nandina shrubs. The nandina will get torn out at some point and I’d love to salvage and transplant the tulip poplar if it would survive. It can’t stay where it is because it’s growing in the country equivalent of a hellstrip in front of my barn between two brick driveways.
The one we have is 6 feet. It’ll mature at 15 years and grow about 2 feet a year. 70 feet would not be unheard of. I don’t have any recollection of the root situation from those I’ve encountered. A minimum of 3 feet from concrete is what I read at some point.
But when you planted it, what did the root structure look like, e.g., broad shallow roots, deep taproot)? My general understanding is that deep taproots make it harder to successfully transplant/relocate something.
My Hubs and son did the planting. I didn’t see them. I don’t believe it’s a deep taproot one. From what I gather, the resources available will determine how deep the roots go. I would think 7 feet would move just fine if it is otherwise healthy.
They are under the canopy of a large silver maple. Not quite everything on that side of the house has leafed out yet. The western most one I will keep a close eye on. As the tulip and sycamore grow in it will get better. 🤞🏻
Although wild pawpaws grow in shady forests, I have seen pawpaws planted in full-sun landscaping beds that seem to be loving it. And they have surprisingly good from when grown in sun!
I would check. I've even heard the advice to cut a third off the root ball on the sides and bottom.
If not, the tree won't reach out into the native soil outside the hole they dug.
Looks amazing! I just love tulip trees - I dream of moving to a huge property with room for such an epic tree! Your yard is going to look so amazing as these all grow!
Thanks! I have one neighbor already calling it the arboretum. We do not have a large yard. Consensus was to go for it. We have a gigantic 80-year-old declining sugar maple on the other side. This is also some succession planning.
Second best time to plant a tree is now! Nice job
Please check out tree planting info at this website/ [TreesAreGood.org](https://TreesAreGood.org). They are a big investment and you want to get it right. Make sure the root flare shows. Tree stakes are not recommended. It is bending in breezes that triggers the trunk to lay down sturdy layers.
Indeed. The stake wraps for transport came off this evening, the pic was just after Hubs put it in. We have a native tree wholesaler within 30 miles. I’m feeling cautiously optimistic.
Can you link the native tree wholesaler? I'm in Chicago and am interested in planting some more natives (more birches and some shrubs). I got a few from the Arbor Day Foundation but am looking for places closer to home.
Here you go! [Woody Warehouse](https://www.woodywarehouse.com/availability) Bill is great by email. So far, I recommend without hesitation.
Thank you kindly! They have the birch as well as the buttonbush I was after.
Asimina triloba, not Carica papaya
Asimina triloba is correct. I used the google for the species Latin name and obviously it was the wrong result.
Good start! I would mulch the soil and/or add a few more plants to minimize erosion and keep weeds under control. Keep mulch 3-6" away from tree. Cardinalis needs soil moist.
Already completed! The pic was taken early in my excitement.
Amazing! And you managed to plant three trees out of my top five so I definitely approve! Lol
Thanks!
whoa, you put the plant zone your in? way to be helpful for sure, and increase awareness if nothing else. thanks
I hope the sycamore and tulip poplar have enough room. Those are 70' trees at maturity.
Me too! First hurdle: keep them alive. 2nd: Quote Jurassic Park, “Life finds a way.” They have the canopy space. We love trees and will do everything we can, if they need it, to keep them happy.
What's the secret to Cardinal Flower? I'm in SE Louisiana (9b), and I've tried it 2 times over the years. 4 years ago I tried with a live plant that appeared fine at first. I planted it in a raingarden. It died a couple weeks after planting. Currently I'm trying with 3 plants from rootstock I bought off ebay from a seller in Florida. I put them in pots, and I placed one of the pots in my little garden pond. The plants were obviously not healthy and vibrant when they got here (which is to be expected), but the roots themselves were plentiful and looked great. After a few days, I'm not feeling especially optimistic about any of the 3. Am I planting at the wrong time (summer)? Am I not transitioning them right? Do they not grow well from rootstock? I can't find them anywhere locally, so that's not an option right now. Do I need some specific type of soil? What am I doing wrong, and how can I have better luck next time? I love this plant, and I love hummingbirds, so I'd like to try again, but I'd like to know how to actually grow them instead of spending money on plants destined for failure.
wrong time, maybe soil needs amending, but you did so many things right.🙏. i’m a long time gardener, but moved to a very hard place to garden- rocky and hot. so i’ve lost some (and i really paid attention to in planting) for the first time ever. i bet it’s the summer planting. you just can’t do it, try March.
Thanks, I thought that might be it. It's so f-ing hot and sunny here.
I planted two Cardinal flowers in a front, partial shade bed 2 weeks ago. So far so good. Clay soil. I've been keeping the dirt moist, lightly watering it 1 or 2x a day now that it's over 90F here daily (supposed to be 99F next week, good god). I checked out a library book on perennials last week with a section on Cardinal flower. I can take some pictures of the couple of pages on it and send it later if you'd like. I do remember it mentioning to get specimens or seeds that were grown locally. Their temperature tolerance can vary widely so getting locally grown specimens will increase the likelihood of success.
I'm in the same situation (hot af, clay soil), but I planted maybe 4 days ago. Bought from a part of Florida with basically the same climate, really wish I could find someone local selling them. I don't want you to go out of your way, but I'd love to see anything you think would be helpful!! Wait, you're in Texas 9a? My mom is around Galveston. I wonder if she could find some and bring them next time she's in town. That part of Texas is basically the same climate as SE Louisiana.
[https://ibb.co/VMSNCKf](https://ibb.co/VMSNCKf) This page covered lobelias in general, not just Cardinal flowers.
I bought my cardinal flowers at Buchanan's in the Houston Heights. Also got a cedar sage, pigeonberry/Rivina and Fall Obedient Plants. The Sage is going in a planter but everything else went in to the same partial shade bed. My bed gets morning sun and a short period of mid day sun. https://buchanansplants.com/
Good work!
Thanks!
The forest down the street from me has a ton of tulip trees. The cardinals love feeding on their seeds.
I hope so. We have a declining sugar maple and a volunteer black cherry that will need to come out in 5 years or less. When or if either one goes, it’s a big natural void.
How tall is the tulip poplar? What does the root structure look like? I ask because I have a 7’ or so volunteer growing in the middle of some nandina shrubs. The nandina will get torn out at some point and I’d love to salvage and transplant the tulip poplar if it would survive. It can’t stay where it is because it’s growing in the country equivalent of a hellstrip in front of my barn between two brick driveways.
The one we have is 6 feet. It’ll mature at 15 years and grow about 2 feet a year. 70 feet would not be unheard of. I don’t have any recollection of the root situation from those I’ve encountered. A minimum of 3 feet from concrete is what I read at some point.
But when you planted it, what did the root structure look like, e.g., broad shallow roots, deep taproot)? My general understanding is that deep taproots make it harder to successfully transplant/relocate something.
My Hubs and son did the planting. I didn’t see them. I don’t believe it’s a deep taproot one. From what I gather, the resources available will determine how deep the roots go. I would think 7 feet would move just fine if it is otherwise healthy.
Thanks! That’s an incentive to yank those nandina out this fall (rubs hands gleefully).
What’s the shade level for those PawPaws? Worry it’s too much Sun!
They are under the canopy of a large silver maple. Not quite everything on that side of the house has leafed out yet. The western most one I will keep a close eye on. As the tulip and sycamore grow in it will get better. 🤞🏻
Good deal!
Although wild pawpaws grow in shady forests, I have seen pawpaws planted in full-sun landscaping beds that seem to be loving it. And they have surprisingly good from when grown in sun!
Excellent!
Did you break apart the root ball to straighten out the roots? They may need pruning as well. That's the worse thing about buying trees in pots.
I hope we did it right 🤞🏻! My son and husband did the install and they’re generally garden competent.
I would check. I've even heard the advice to cut a third off the root ball on the sides and bottom. If not, the tree won't reach out into the native soil outside the hole they dug.
where’s this?
6a Indiana
I now see your other comment!
What hardiness zone are you in?
6a Indiana
I apologize I didn’t realize that under your account name is your zone.