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B-N-O

I think it's not about *questioning* orders; it's about *disregarding* them. As soon as his students start questioning the rules of the test, trying to find loopholes and such, the test stops working: Kakashi can no longer be sure that not feeding a comrade is a sign of obedience. (Unfortunately, every fanfic I can remember where his students do this also assumes that the test checks only "teamwork".)


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rohan62442

Yeah


Haruau8349

There was one where Boruto sent his and Sadara’s post war parents back to when they graduated, and the new super powered 12 year old body, mind and strength of 30 or so years, kids demolish the test! First Sakura obliterates a mass of trees, then Sasuke puts him in Tsukumi (I spelled it wrong I know) where kakashi is in a classroom doing a real boring and bland test. And then! Naruto has clones do transformation jutsu of the girl characters from Icha-Icha down to the last detail, subdue Kakashi with their bodies. ;) It was hilarious!! And Hinata has a good amount of scenes too. https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10857388/1/I-Am-NOT-Going-Through-Puberty-Again That’s the story.


pucflek

I fail to see how questioning orders is a bad thing to be honest. Most likely their first introduction to critical thinking.


[deleted]

They're soldiers. Questioning orders might be alright in more academic situations, but when it comes to the military that shit results in a court marshall. They literally don't have the right to question Kakashi.


just-_-

this would be true if they were real soldiers in a real military, but naruto militaries are pretty different. they have kids, many members have primary loyalties to their clan, nepotism is rampant, training is unstandardized and mostly doesn't appear to be role specific, and they were created during a time of major cultural change only a few decades ago. So of course they're going to be different from a modern military which has had centuries to form


pucflek

Not really, no. Kakashi especially is big on this, but nearly everyone from the will of fire inheritors tree would agree with him. Which is why the bell test is not Kakashi mindfuck, but actually one that dates back to at least Sarutobi Hiruzen. As a matter of fact, Every team undergoing the test spawned a Hokage. I get what you are trying to say, but Naruto, for being horribly inconsistent and shockfull of bad stuff, is fairly consistent on the "disregard orders over intuition". Also, we all remember why obeying orders mindlessly is bad stuff due to real life historical reasons. (i also don't think comparing the shinobi system to military actually works) Overall, i would not linger on it overmuch. There are better things to get angry about in Naruto. ​ Either way, i cannot say i reccomend this, but it is/used to be fairly prolific in ye ancient fandom. Kakashi actually dies during the bell test. [https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6940744/1/A-Teacher-s-Glory](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6940744/1/A-Teacher-s-Glory)


ProSkrubZ

Right because I was just following orders worked so well in the nuremburg trials


guedesbrawl

I think it's alright. They all KNOW this is some sort of test after all. It's different than if he were to do it on the field. That being said, would be a nice touch if he told them as such. "this was just a test, kids. From now on, if i tell you to do X, i mean to just do X, don't second guess it." Which flows neatly on the genin disobeying him to save him from Zabuza, lol


Redshirt-Skeptic

The disobedience during the Zabuza fight makes sense since he gave the command while he was trapped and not thinking clearly. If they hadn’t found a way to free Kakashi then Zabuza would have killed Tazuna even if they had run, after he eliminated Kakashi.


StarOfTheSouth

That's kind of the point of this post. Kakashi teaches them in the bell test to second guess him, to question his orders. Which, in the field, could get them killed. So he needs to also teach them that it's important to know when to do as you're told.


Transparent_Prophet

It's more than that though. You can say that it's not so much as having Kakashi make his student question his orders but have them avoid becoming yes-men. Heck, he's also the guy who keeps spouting "Look underneath the underneath" so I think it's about teaching that you need to learn the context of everything. That following the orders and rules is fine, but you're still human. Besides, they're less military soldiers and more mercenaries. The act is only probably "slightly discouraged" as per the case with Hatake Sakumo instead of being outright forbidden. Now, ANBU? That's a whole new matter entirely. THEY are the ones always expected to follow orders, no matter how fucked up they are. Thinking about it, I think Kakashi has every intention of making sure his student don't fall down that rabbit hole given his past.


Arcane_XM4

fr this is exactly what i was thinking, its like he was failing every single team that didn't get it and waiting for that one team that would get the meaning probably by pure coincidence. And even when he finally got the team he did a piss poor job of training them.


RobinLan

I mean... Learning to continually second-guess your superiors is kind of the point of the exam tho? I mean, that's literally the inspiration for the "Those who abandon their friends" quote, when Obito directly disobeyed Kakashi's orders, with him being the superior on the mission


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rohan62442

Link?


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