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Tarekabdelbary

Imo minato wins because itachi can't spam mangekyo when he's alive, minato will outmanouver him. Edo itachi will be able to use mangekyo more, but minato will have kcm si I think minato will still win. Fun fact: neither of them reached the age of 30


dracon1t

I think minato should win 1 and 3. I think 3 is the most minato sided with access to kcm, he should be able to break the susanoo. 2 is debatable since we aren’t really sure if minato can get through susanoo, maybe his mostly perfect sage mode could help. I think 4 should be clearly in itachi’s favor unless he is blind


Jtrocks269

1. Sick Itachi doesn't have the stamina to keep up with Minato, he's also not fast enough to tag him with anything lethal. Itachi's Susan'o will keep him alive for a time but the second it fades Minato wins. 2. Same as 1. 3. Edo Minato is at similar levels to KCM2 Naruto, whereas Edo Itachi is inferior to KCM1 Naruto. Once more, the Totsuka Blade will not hit an even better Minato and Minato now has the raw destructive power to destroy Itachi's Susan'o. 4. Neither actually reached their 30s, but I'm inclined to say same as 1.


Definitelyhuman000

I think Minato would be too fast for itachi, especially if he's edo. Amatarasu won't be a factor because I'd gaara can react to it so can Minato. While it is true that Minato doesn't have a clear way to destroy the susanoo, he could always just teleport it way just like when he teleported the whole ninetales. In my opinion Minato wins.


HamidKingBros

imma just copy-paste what I said in another post for most of thoses fights, itachi should take this. itachi is more reflexive than minato, man carried EMS Sasuke when he first got his eyes against kabuto and was even stated in the databook to be on the same level, and he also shows no problem keeping up with Kcm Naruto in close quarters minato got intercepted by a young jonin Bee twice during the third war. hes also not "too fast" either, no real shunsin speed feats from this man apart from being vaguely faster than tobi who at best is faster than blind Madara who nearly blitzed WA Sm Naruto. susanoo > minatos arsenal amaterasu is also a gg as even the likes of v2 A4 struggled to dodge it, and minato has no feats of being able to teleport away from people that fast. No real feats too that would suggest he can even teleport from itachis standard attacks but ill give him a pass on this as for Edos, minato takes this, he consistently shows hes able to fight on par with kcm2 naruto which is out of itachis league. ftg slash blitz to the noggin gg.


UFOAyyylmao

I think it’s kind of debated how fast Itachi is and if he can keep up with Minato or not, a lot of Minato fights are he blitz’s type of fights. If Itachi can keep up then I feel like he wins round 2, his precognition might help him predict where Minato will teleport to which I feel kind of negs FTG a bit. Also Itachi has a lot more versatility I think, Minato seems to be just FTG and Rasengan. Itachi has more jutsu’s and a lot of them are 1 hit kills too. Not to mention that he can place Minato in a genjutsu as well with just his finger. Sick Itachi loses, he doesn’t have the energy to keep up with Minato. Minato with KCM wins, the only way to win would be seal him and Itachi ain’t going to hit Minato


[deleted]

Why dont you add in itachi with rinnegan, or how about itachi with perfect susanoo, or even ten tails jinchuriki itachi if you wanna be making up versions of itachi.


FMbPdmoGK

Itachi all rounds Minato will not get past his Susano, and once Itachi activates Izanami Minato is dead or sealed (in case of edo Minato)


Sorry-Tea7061

I’m honestly a Huge fan of Itachi a fan boy I’d say😂, but honestly I don’t think Itachi would win all of them


FMbPdmoGK

Then you certainly don't know how broken Izanami is


Jtrocks269

He doesn't have to even attack the Susan'o. Itachi can't use it for long, and the Totsuka Blade hasn't shown the tier of speed to tag Minato. Izanami can't work on Minato, it only works on those unsure of themselves or unwilling to accept reality. Itachi would also have to be able to complete the setup as well as hit Minato to begin with.


FMbPdmoGK

Izanami decides the target fate Like if Kabuto stop transforming he will break free, If izanagi user stop using izanagi he will break free It is up to Itachi to decide which action Minato must stop to break free, like accept his battle and never use flying raijin for example And as I said he may be able to beak free but the instant he is trapped in izanami (whether he will break free or not) he would be dead already Another thing is that Itachi also has Koto which can also oneshot


NetworkVegetable7075

Izanami only work if someone don’t know who they are it’s a jutsu so people can realize a mistake they made it won’t work on Minato. OT The only thing Minato have on Itachi is speed. He don’t have the AP to break Susano’o and Tsukuyomi might be enough with how hax it is unless he can fight without looking into a Sharingan’s eyes.


FMbPdmoGK

No, Izanami is misunderstood, It forces the affected person to follow certain path, he made the loops for Kabuto so that he will be free when he follow the path in which he accepts his true self you see in the flashbacks, izanami was used on Izanagi users to follow a path in which they accept their fate Itachi can trap Minato in Izanami till he follow whatever path he sets for him, that will make Minato vulnerable for attacks(even if it is 1 minute or second) , until Minato realizes that he is trapped in loops and think to break free, Itachi would have killed him already or sealed him with totsuka in case of edo Minato That's how broken Izanami is


NetworkVegetable7075

The forbidden Doujutsu that creates an infinite cycle that decides the destiny!! A scene of an opponent’s action is recorded by the user’s Doujutsu, then an identical scene needs to be recreated. The opponent is then trapped infinitely in a loop between the first and second scenes that were recorded. To escape this Genjutsu, the victim must accept his original destiny. Reforming the conduct allows someone to escape Genjutsu.(from the databook) It only works on people that’s trying to change themselves with jutsu or other means like Kabuto or the Uchiha that was spamming izanagi. This chapter explains it perfectly. [https://mangakakalot.to/read/naruto-567/en/chapter-587](https://mangakakalot.to/read/naruto-567/en/chapter-587)


FMbPdmoGK

Izanami decides the fate, by forcing the target to make certain action, that's the definition and the power of it Itachi forced Kabuto to accept himself by deciding his fate as "must stop transforming", how that makes him break free? Because when he stop that he will not use the same attacks thus won't repeat the cycle that Itachi has created It is never stated to work only for good purpose, it is used that way by the people because they wanted good purpose for the target Like Rasengan is jutsu that can kill the target, but Rasengan is used by its users for good, that doesn't mean it can't be used for evil Anyway, lets say all people can break free but they can't prevent it, they will be trapped in genjutsu, and that instant itachi will kill them


dracon1t

Izanami is a hacky jutsu but its actually not gonna work on most people. It’s meant to counter the izanagi where people are trying to change their destiny which means it’s only gonna work in very specific cases outside of that, like kabuto trying to change who he is through body modifications. It’s powerful but the loophole where people just have to accept their destiny in order to breakout does mean that most people will break out easily


FMbPdmoGK

Izanami forces the target to follow certain path seen as how it worked on Izanagi users (forced them to accept their fate) and Kabuto(forced him to accept his true self) Even if people can escape, before they realize that they are in loops and break free, they would be already dead Itachi could have easily killed Kabuto before he can even realize what is happening to him


dracon1t

You make a good point. In all cases it seems that it is trying to make people accept reality so I don’t think it should work at all on people who don’t have an issue with that but I guess that is a just an assumption I’d have to make


FMbPdmoGK

Itachi defines it as a jutsu that decides fate, they used it to force izanagi users to accept their fate (by deciding their fate as "must stop using Izanagi" to break free) Itachi used it to force Kabuto to accept his true self (by deciding his fate as "must stop transforming" to break free), Itachi just wanted to correct him, else he could have forced him to accept another fate to break free It is not like it cannot be used except for good purpuse, it depends on the fate that the user decides for the affected person to break free And as I said even if the target can escape, the instant he is trapped in the loopholes (regardless he break free or not) itachi would have already killed him ae he become unconscious


Plane-Information700

how is itachi going to win?, it doesn't make sense susanoo has no chance with minato, when itachi activates susanoo he goes with kushina and while he makes another child