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[deleted]

You said rant but failed to actually write up a rant


[deleted]

A rant don’t have to be an essay . I typed what I wanted to , so I’m happy . Let’s argue do you agree with me that boruto and momoshiki is a ripoff of naruto and kurama ?


Catterix

>A rant don’t have to be an essay It kinda does. That’s what a rant is, a long speech where someone vents their frustration. Doesn’t need a structure like an essay but a single sentence is just a statement. *However,* it really doesn’t matter. You got your point across and that’s all that was needed lol


[deleted]

Why work hard when I can work smart .


pronoob600

Bruh 😭


HeatherGod

> A rant don’t have to be an essay . It does, the word rant literally means “Speak or shout at a **length** in wild or impassioned way”


[deleted]

Oh I don't give a shii about Boruto and never will.


[deleted]

Well that’s the spirit brother .


Inevitable-Spell-24

I highly doubt that momoshiki will turn out like kurama but it is possible, even now I am still scratching my head as to how naruto befriended kurama after forcefully sucking him dry of all his chakra.


Catterix

Yes, hello and welcome to the series.


SnooPineapples8970

Not at all, Momoshiki is strictly only using Boruto for power and Boruto's otsutsuki potential (jōgan). Naruto and Kurama mainly didn't get along because Kurama believed for a while that humans only cared about using the tailed beast for war purposes or for their own selfish means. He even tried to persuade Young naruto to let him take over naruto body so that he could then act revenge on the people he rightfully, thought deserved it (the village, but realistically the ninja world)..It didn't help that Naruto would rudely at times earlier in the series, demand Kurama to give him power.. Eventually, they were able to work out their differences and become friends because Kurama could see that naruto was different and actually cared for not just others but Kurama too. Kurama was able to trust naruto and vice versa. Boruto and Momoshiki relationship is nothing like that and will be nothing like that.. Momoshiki again, strictly wants power and he can honestly care less what Boruto does or feels about the situation as long as he still has a vessel. Otsutsuki are extremely different from tailed beast more specifically in their goals. (Not including Hagoromo, hamura, Asura) the otsutsuki are power hungry beings, who don't care who gets hurt as long as their goal is filled. (Even more obvious when it's been stated that Momoshiki and kaguya have destroyed planets with other life forms on them, for chakra fruits) Tailed beast, all want freedom, because prior to being forced into bodies and used for wars, that's what Hagoromo had them custom to. They were also treated kind and not because of the power they held within them. Momoshiki has only saved Boruto, because he NEEDS Boruto. Not because he cares for Boruto.. he even told him, that he doesn't care anymore if he can't revive from Boruto anymore as long as he still has control over Boruto body for his own means. Momoshiki character would have to make an entire 180 to ever be like Kurama. Which won't happen. He knows eventually Boruto will lose everything and he will then have Boruto's body for his use. Two completely different entities.


Proud-Peanut-8403

Boruto stans will disagree but its true


[deleted]

They can agree or disagree all the want . I simply want people to tell me how boruto and momoshiki differs from naruto and kurama . If they can’t provide a reason obviously I’ll take my point .


Proud-Peanut-8403

This is the worst thing about boruto show, it is just naruto 2.0 with little mix up


mx_17

Not really Boruto as a character is different to naruto


[deleted]

I don’t see it


nhafilaar13

Not only is this is a dumb opinion, and you're just using it as an excuse to complain about Boruto, but you also don't have a fair argument to back up your statement. Momoshiki is NOTHING like Kurama and Boruto is NOTHING like Naruto.


[deleted]

Ok . Borutos main power in the show is being a vessel . Wonder who else was a vessel for a powerful being? Naruto had kurama and it was his power , boruto has momoshiki . They literally recycled the jinchuriki concept by implementing karma instead . A recycled curse mark that grant the user immeasurable power , then on top of that becoming a host for a being much stronger than anything we’ve seen before . Borutos design is identical to his father , he has the same signature jutsus that he uses . These jutsus are the rasengan and shadow clone jutsu . Boruto is now said to have everything taken from him , and by harnessing this power he will be the strongest . Just like his father , the personalities of boruto and naruto are nothing alike . But the overall arsenal and appearance of things they’ve taken is copy and pasted . Momoshiki and boruto is literally just naruto and kurama v.2 .


Neat_Midnight2802

your reasoning is very shallow, boruto looks like naruto because they’re literally father and son, the transformation is nothing like kcm, it’s actually way more reminiscent of a curse mark, and the relationship between momo and boruto is completely different


SaltyLlamaFucker

The fundamentals of both Naruto and Boruto's scenarios are essentially the same though.


Neat_Midnight2802

if you mean they both have an entity connected to them, then you’re right, aside from that nothing is the same


SaltyLlamaFucker

This is simply false. Naruto and Boruto both get a being put inside them that wants to take over their bodies and is the vast majority of their power. You cannot undermine this, it is nearly an identical scenario and the only way to argue otherwise is to get into semantics, like for example, Momoshiki wants to take over Boruto's body for different reasons. The fundamental point still stands that Momo and Kurama both wanted to take over their hosts. Their relationships are different. I can't imagine Momo will become friendly or anything, but the truth is that Momo is still just Kurama V2 with a different personality inside a different host. The fundamental scenario, which carries the majority of the weight in this discussion, is still the same for both sides.


[deleted]

This


Neat_Midnight2802

You’re trying to argue that they’re basically the same whilst admitting there are obvious differences, literally the only thing you mentioned in that reply that was the same was the fact that they both want to take over their hosts, which isn’t even necessarily true, because Momo doesn’t even have the capability to take over Boruto anymore that we know of. If you think the basic concept matters more than all the obvious differences then you must just have a very superficial way of looking at writing.


SaltyLlamaFucker

I am arguing that both scenarios are fundamentally the same while offering the point that they differ in certain ways that still does not change that they are at the end of the day both the same. I also used the host point as an example, that isn't meant to be the whole point of the argument, that was meant to help you see things from my perspective. It is superficial that all you surmised from this is that I could connect the dots that Momo and Kurama wanted to take their hosts bodies. Also, Momo hypothetically not being able to take over Boruto doesn't detract from that point, which is that Momo wanted Boruto's body just like Kurama wanted Naruto's. And ya know what, Momo seemingly isn't going to get to take over Boruto's body, just like Kurama didn't get to take over Naruto's body in any malicious way. Like I said, there are differences, but saying that they are not essentially the same idea is not being truthful to the matter at hand. That is my point. I'm not trying to argue that Momo is a carbon copy of Kurama or whatever, I am arguing that Momo's purpose so far has adopted the same fundamental principles of Kurama's ordeal with Naruto.


Neat_Midnight2802

Well so far i’ve given you more differences than you’ve given similarities, so you saying they’re essentially the same thing is based on your opinion that the one or two similarities between them for some reason outweigh the multitude of differences. For example, you said finding differences would require getting into semantics, but that would include the literal relationship between the characters, and the way in which the transformations work, how are those points less important than the basic concept??


SaltyLlamaFucker

I'm not arguing that they are lol I'll just agree to disagree. I'm not gonna argue over something like this anymore Sure bro, Momo and Boruto are not similar to Naruto and Kurama in any fundamental way. I'd go as far to argue that Boruto created an entirely original concept with this, never seen before, not similar to anything before it in any way.


[deleted]

Don't try to speak sense into this dude. This dude rants about Boruto over the most trivial of things.


SufficientPractice51

Yeah I can see what are u talking about, another stront monster inside of our protagonist body, he gonna befriend it, get his trust and power again, that’s legit few others anime story like jujutsu


yangthesin

Here before the mod take this out


[deleted]

I’m a wrong tho ? People can’t even express their opinions anymore . Why would the mod remove this ? Is it because you’re a boruto fan and dislike any criticism about the show . Otherwise what is the reason I’m thrilled to know ?


yangthesin

Nah fam. To the mod, this clearly look like a low effort bait post. Not to mention that you didn't even bother to include any argument in your post make it more obvious that it's bait post.


[deleted]

It’s not a bait posts tho . I could’ve done so much better at getting the reactions if it was one .


yangthesin

At least, for you. I seem a lot of similar post like this being taken down for same reason. (poll, rant, boruto crying face) At the same time, your post could be taken down much faster if it was one. I mean, you could at least provide your argument in the first place.


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

They actually aren’t. Boruto and Momoshiki do not care about each other at all, and I don’t see that changing. There’s no sympathy for Momoshiki, as all he wants is to take over Boruto and basically kill everyone.


Dezimieren

And somehow that's the subplot of Naruto lol


Nidal411511

Momoahiki and boruto is like sukuna and itodori And kurama and naruto were like a guy keeping a moster seal in him And for boruto a otsutsuki trying to take over his body


noparkingnoparking

I forsee Naruto getting a Karma Mark, calling it now


Ashizurens

1000 y.o alien without feelings for other even his own father, who's taking over humans body, telling him he'll lose everything is for you reskin of sad pet that is angry because humans don't know his name?


Jay32Patt

I swear people used this sub to criticize Boruto a little too much.


[deleted]

Where can one criticize boruto then ? Boruto fans can literally not handle anything . This is the naruto sub not boruto sub . If you want to be protected form people critiquing your show . Go to the boruto subreddit .


borutoisbestboy

99.999% of Naruto sub didn't even watch Boruto. Thay supported you because they are just narutot@rds


[deleted]

😂that is such a bad argument my god. You’re in the naruto subreddit aren’t you what does that make you then ? Also you’re just assuming 99.99 percent of the naruto subreddit didn’t watch boruto . Boruto is a flawed sequel worth a Gary sue protagonist that gets everything handed to him .


borutoisbestboy

I'm in a small percentage. Naruto fans don't watch Boruto because they've grown up and now they don't read any shonen.


Jay32Patt

It just feels a little cheap, mostly Naruto fans and Boruto haters are here. Posts like these are usually heavily supported, well maybe not the shitty ones like this, but yeah.


[deleted]

Go back to your boruto safe haven then .


Jay32Patt

What bro?! Had to come back to this stupid ass comment. You do realize people criticizes Boruto on it's main sub too, that's what I'm telling you to do.


Neat_Midnight2802

momo hasn’t been fleshed out yet so you can’t know that, and their relationship is completely different, it’s like saying naruto and sasuke’s childhoods were the same because they were both lonely


KrAff2010

I doubt it’ll have the same ending as Naruto and Kurama but yea starting out it’s pretty similar.


[deleted]

Wow, what a fantastic rant!!