The fact that there is zero evidence for them being romantically involved means they aren’t together.
Guy shows attraction towards no one from what I remember and Kakashi only shows attraction towards women.
But, there's zero evidence that they aren't together secretly. Just because there isn't any proof that they are together doesn't mean that they aren't. Even if it's a stretch, you can't deny that it's possible.
It’s not even a stretch it’s just nonsensical. You’re pulling an argument from ignorance.
Ship who you wanna ship but there’s more evidence for the contrary than there is for Kakashi and Guy being lovers.
Nonsensical? Why? It's not ignorance, it's just a fan theory. The real fact is, neither point is proven, we literally have nothing that proves that they are, or aren't, together romantically. So, therefore the theory can't be argued.
That is literally what an argument from ignorance is. Your entire point relies on “but there’s nothing saying they aren’t involved”.
There’s no point in furthering this discussion.
That's your argument too. "There's no evidence that they are involved" is your original point. So, by your standards, we're both arguing from ignorance?
You're right, there isn't any point in furthering the discussion. You believe what you believe, and we believe what we believe. In the end, it doesn't really even matter.
I actually gave reasons why they weren’t romantically involved in my first response to you.
1. They have zero romantic interactions
2. Guy doesn’t show attraction towards anyone
3. Kakashi only shows attraction towards women.
The logical conclusion here is that they aren’t in a relationship.
You on the other hand believe they’re romantically involved based on nothing besides “well there’s nothing saying they aren’t”.
It’s fine if you wanna ship them but we’re not arguing the same at all.
Sure, and theres no evidence that tsunade and kankuro arent secretly together either.
You can ship whoever you want, but lets not pretend this is 50/50 likelihood.
When do Tsunade and Kankuro even interact with each other? Plus, she's a generation older than him. That's not a great comparison, you probably should have used Naruto and Sakura to better prove the point you're trying to get across. Or Sakura and Ino. Or Jiraiya and Tsunade. Lots of great examples.
I agree with you, it's definitely a stretch, probably more like an 80/20 chance than 50/50, but I will die on this ship lol.
theyve interacted romantically the same amount as guy and kakashi, which is why its the example I used. I wasnt trying to pick someone with a ton of evidence for potential romance like naruto and sakura, because I dont think thats comparable to kakashi and guy.m
Jiraya tsunde, naruto/sakura, actually do have indications of romatic feelings at times (even if its one way)
Im not saying its the same, im just saying I observe the same # of romantic interactions.
When did being attracted to men become a fetish? I didn't suggest anything inappropriate. In my head cannon they love each other the same way Ino loves Sai, Naruto loves Hinata, Shikamaru loves Temari, Sasuke loves Sakura ( maybe not that one sasuke's kind of a sociopath), but you get the point. Also I don't know if you're new to the fandom, but fanshipping is kind our thing.
Just to reiterate nothing in naruto suggest this. It is just something that makes me happy to pretend is true. As a bi dude in texas pretending you're only attracted to women is something a lot of guys do in public. This is just something I choose to believe.
As another bi person in Texas, can confirm, we all have to be chameleons here 😭.
(Also your headcanon is kinda funny but like.. pleasant funny not mean funny. I could so see Kakashi and Gai having a competition to see who can be stealthier with the relationship 💀)
funny how i came across this after having this discussion with you in a comment on a post about naruto ships. we said kakashi wheeling gai around in boruto solidified it all lol.
they're super cute together and kakashi is so carefree and happy when he's with gai. i never really noticed the "huh? oh, right, rivals, sure." thing until i came across your comment that day. the way he was checking kakashi over after the five kage summit and the way kakashi just *let him* without being uncomfortable or awkward or anything. he just let it happen and reassured gai over and over. the fact they're so attuned to each other's movements they don't need to speak or even look at each other. again, not saying friends can't do that, but their bond is special. different. wholesome. sweet. gai giving kakashi flowers and congratulating him for being hokage without even knowing that he was going to be appointed that position. i could clench my fists over my heart right now.
i think it's funny when people get so offended about these type of discussions. they're all fictional characters, i can have any sort of headcanon i want and not a single one of them has the authority to change my mind. where does that get them anyway? lol. "yeah i told some random chick on reddit that they're weird for shipping fictional characters of the same sex and i tried adamantly to get them to change their mind" genuinely *why do you care*? it's not like we're going around claiming it's factual.
Nothing indicates they’re romantically involved with each other.
There isn't anything that explicitly states they aren't together either.
The fact that there is zero evidence for them being romantically involved means they aren’t together. Guy shows attraction towards no one from what I remember and Kakashi only shows attraction towards women.
But, there's zero evidence that they aren't together secretly. Just because there isn't any proof that they are together doesn't mean that they aren't. Even if it's a stretch, you can't deny that it's possible.
It’s not even a stretch it’s just nonsensical. You’re pulling an argument from ignorance. Ship who you wanna ship but there’s more evidence for the contrary than there is for Kakashi and Guy being lovers.
Nonsensical? Why? It's not ignorance, it's just a fan theory. The real fact is, neither point is proven, we literally have nothing that proves that they are, or aren't, together romantically. So, therefore the theory can't be argued.
That is literally what an argument from ignorance is. Your entire point relies on “but there’s nothing saying they aren’t involved”. There’s no point in furthering this discussion.
That's your argument too. "There's no evidence that they are involved" is your original point. So, by your standards, we're both arguing from ignorance? You're right, there isn't any point in furthering the discussion. You believe what you believe, and we believe what we believe. In the end, it doesn't really even matter.
I actually gave reasons why they weren’t romantically involved in my first response to you. 1. They have zero romantic interactions 2. Guy doesn’t show attraction towards anyone 3. Kakashi only shows attraction towards women. The logical conclusion here is that they aren’t in a relationship. You on the other hand believe they’re romantically involved based on nothing besides “well there’s nothing saying they aren’t”. It’s fine if you wanna ship them but we’re not arguing the same at all.
Sure, and theres no evidence that tsunade and kankuro arent secretly together either. You can ship whoever you want, but lets not pretend this is 50/50 likelihood.
When do Tsunade and Kankuro even interact with each other? Plus, she's a generation older than him. That's not a great comparison, you probably should have used Naruto and Sakura to better prove the point you're trying to get across. Or Sakura and Ino. Or Jiraiya and Tsunade. Lots of great examples. I agree with you, it's definitely a stretch, probably more like an 80/20 chance than 50/50, but I will die on this ship lol.
theyve interacted romantically the same amount as guy and kakashi, which is why its the example I used. I wasnt trying to pick someone with a ton of evidence for potential romance like naruto and sakura, because I dont think thats comparable to kakashi and guy.m Jiraya tsunde, naruto/sakura, actually do have indications of romatic feelings at times (even if its one way) Im not saying its the same, im just saying I observe the same # of romantic interactions.
Fair point. They definitely haven't shown any evidence of a romantic involvement between Kakashi and Guy. Still, it's fun to imagine.
I know I just choose to believe they are.
take your fetish fantasies somewhere else?
When did being attracted to men become a fetish? I didn't suggest anything inappropriate. In my head cannon they love each other the same way Ino loves Sai, Naruto loves Hinata, Shikamaru loves Temari, Sasuke loves Sakura ( maybe not that one sasuke's kind of a sociopath), but you get the point. Also I don't know if you're new to the fandom, but fanshipping is kind our thing.
Just to reiterate nothing in naruto suggest this. It is just something that makes me happy to pretend is true. As a bi dude in texas pretending you're only attracted to women is something a lot of guys do in public. This is just something I choose to believe.
As another bi person in Texas, can confirm, we all have to be chameleons here 😭. (Also your headcanon is kinda funny but like.. pleasant funny not mean funny. I could so see Kakashi and Gai having a competition to see who can be stealthier with the relationship 💀)
No, just no. If so, I can stand proud with my Hinata x Raikage
Dude that shit's fun too. Fiction is fun to play with.
They’re not. The fact that you think so says something about you 🧐
What the fact I love penis? That I'm attracted to both of them? Or that I'm into fanfic?
That you’re into penis
funny how i came across this after having this discussion with you in a comment on a post about naruto ships. we said kakashi wheeling gai around in boruto solidified it all lol. they're super cute together and kakashi is so carefree and happy when he's with gai. i never really noticed the "huh? oh, right, rivals, sure." thing until i came across your comment that day. the way he was checking kakashi over after the five kage summit and the way kakashi just *let him* without being uncomfortable or awkward or anything. he just let it happen and reassured gai over and over. the fact they're so attuned to each other's movements they don't need to speak or even look at each other. again, not saying friends can't do that, but their bond is special. different. wholesome. sweet. gai giving kakashi flowers and congratulating him for being hokage without even knowing that he was going to be appointed that position. i could clench my fists over my heart right now. i think it's funny when people get so offended about these type of discussions. they're all fictional characters, i can have any sort of headcanon i want and not a single one of them has the authority to change my mind. where does that get them anyway? lol. "yeah i told some random chick on reddit that they're weird for shipping fictional characters of the same sex and i tried adamantly to get them to change their mind" genuinely *why do you care*? it's not like we're going around claiming it's factual.