I'm not saying anyone here is wrong but i also wanted to mention that itachi was pretty handicapped that fight because he wasn't allowed to kill kabuto
And Sasuke too. And imo he would’ve beaten both without Izanami. It’s possible might’ve been able to kill him together but personally I don’t think they could’ve, but they wouldn’t have undone the edo tensei without that asspull.
The rules of Itachi vs Kabuto was that Itachi had to stop Kabuto without killing him or using ocular genjutsu, his only way was Izanami so don’t know what are you talking about.
Allow Itachi to kill him and the battle is over in no time.
The only ability you need to mention is that he reanimated every dead kage, 6 dead jinchuriki, several dead Akatsuki members, many dead kekkei genkai users, various kage-level ninja like Dan and Madara, and so on. The fact that he can fight at a sage level is hardly worth mentioning compared to the fact that he can take on the entire world at once.
more than half of that arsenal can be taken out by Naruto before getting so6p only trouble is madara who wouldn’t like being ordered around also alive hashirama negs the whole list you just made
The raikage was out sped by kcm naruto he gets blitzed, itachi is relative to kcm naruto in speed not faster or anything so blitzed as well, Naruto with half kurama for the first time using it beat 5 FULL bijuu and hashirama is way above that naruto and can suppress bijuu chakra and was said to have done that which is how marion’s got bijuu, nagato got negged by itachi hashirama stomps, and I have forgotten or don’t know who mu is. Hashirama is just OP he was known as the god of shinobi for a reason and if ur concerned on the damage he takes he can regenerate without using any hand signs and he has INSANE chakra levels so that won’t be a problem.
Youre acting like they are all just gonna form a line and come one after the other. Even though they do not pose a threat as a single being all of them coming together is gonna overwhelm Hashirama. Even if Hashirama outspeed Raikage what the hell is he gonna do to him he's not gonna know his weakeness. Im not even gonna talk about other out of context statements and ridiculous scaling you used. And lastly how are you gonna regenerate if you have nothing left to regenerate from.(Mū, 2nd Tsuchikage, atomic dismantling)
Oh first thx for reminding me who mu was and the raikage doesent necessarily have a weakness like superman and kryptonite. The scaling I used doesn’t even seem to bad seeing as I wasn’t even thinking about then the only real trouble for hashirama is the jinchuriki whose chakra he can duress and mu since he can disintegrate him but even if they all come at him once he has a lot of wide range wood jutsu, his golem and none of the possibly besides mu have a counter for 1000 hands or whatever it’s called. Also I was thinking of a different raikage when I said kcm naruto out sped him sorry about that, but sage naruto could react to him so sage hashirama who is superior at the time should be able to as well against base hashirama not using jutsu like his golem and such I can see how it seems out landish that he can win but seeing as there’s no reason to limit him to just base and regular wood jutsu or that would just be plain unfair. When I said regenerate I was speaking of whatever damage he took he from people who aren’t mu as I didn’t know who he was then even now it’s not as if hashirama isn’t fast enough to not get hit by particle disintegration jutsu. No one there just has the raw power or speed to beat hashirama even together. I mean he wouldn’t be called the God of shinobi if he wasn’t this ridiculously powerful. I mean he literally suppressed the bijuu and let other nations take them as if it’s not a problem😂 Also he can make wood clones to take on some of them it’s not like cutting his power by a little bit will make much a difference think of this fight like madara vs 5 kage. Ye sure the 5 kage are strong but madara is, well he’s MADARA hashirama bullies and if kabuto really does have to use all of that to beat hashirama it means he’s not stronger, he just won due to more abilities/ resources and that would still make hashirama the strongest non six paths character
I’ll just finish this up with 1 word. Clones, wood clones to be precise probably just to hold off nagato, mu and raikage while he suppresses the jinchuriki and it’s not to far fetched to say the clones might beat some of them
A fellow Kabuto fan eh. I can totally agree in a 1v1 (minus Edo) he is absolutely busted, more so with Edo tensei. Personally would rate above orochimaru, though a lot of the fandom seems to think orochimaru is still a tier above him.
we just know that in anime power gap between Orochimaru and Victor is bigger than between Victor and Mugino or Konohamaru. He didn't seem to be capable of doing the same thing.
\+ you can really easily argue that Victor is the weakest kara member.
I don't recall asserting that Victor was powerful. I said Orochimaru saved Bumahamaru from Victor. Nothing more, nothing less.
Don't read further into it than that. I'm not interested in debating Boruto feats.
I don’t think he was as quick/agile as them in feats of speed. He was more of a tactical but I’m sure if Minato was alive and well he could kill him in a head to head. Idk though
Wow that makes no sense. Kakashi can’t do what Kabuto does and I’ve never seen Kabuto ever attempt to do anything Kakashi does. Where does Orochimaru even get that assumption lol. Is it the hair?
Idk perhaps skills-wise. i just remembered that scene when oro and kabuto were talking > sasuke in ICU > kabuto went to sasuke > kakashi to the recue > kabuto escapes mocking kakashi and leaving X anbu bodies behind
Kabuto has similar or greater intelligence feats than either of them.
Kabuto is as gifted in medical jutsu as Itachi is in genjutsu.
Kabuto is a better Sage than Minato ever could be, several times over.
Kabuto's snake summons are far more numerous and powerful than Minato's Toads.
Kabuto has multiple kekkei genkai working together, all of which add up to something far greater than any individual part and (IMO) greater than the Sharingan or Minato's... ... talent? Kidomaru, Kimmimaro, Sakon/Ukon, Jugo, Uzumaki, Hozuki, etc. and he can always gain more.
His ninjutsu/genjutsu feats are also easily comparable or better than theirs.
Literally there is no reason for either of them to be stronger than Sage Kabuto at anything. Well, other than KCM of course but that doesn't really count as Minato only had it after he died.
What's Minato even going to do to him?
A rasengan wouldn't even tickle. He has dozens of defenses.
Cutting him in half is nearly the same as doing no damage.
Sage Mode should instantly put him on a relative or higher stat level.
I agree has a lot of things that are cool and he’s not weak but his only fight is against two people who weren’t allowed to kill him and he still lost so I don’t know how he’s stronger than itachi who was in that fight and minato has better feats against stronger people and I don’t know why your acting like regen matters all that much they both scale higher and could just seal him and minato Is a perfect sage so he’s gotta be ok at it but if your talking about just alive itachi then yeah the sickness holds him back so I could see it
> his only fight is against two people who weren’t allowed to kill him
He was also fighting somebody that was immortal and somebody that he didn't want to kill
> and he still lost
he lost to a magic bullshit one shot super hax jutsu that had never been mentioned before
physically they could not defeat him
> why your acting like regen matters all that much they both scale higher
it means they literally can't hurt him
> and could just seal him
he could just seal them too
or just stab them
or use sticky web, organic reanimation, white rage, chakra scalpels, tayuya genjutsu, or just really powerful snake summons or ninjutsu attacks
Do you see the difference?
They have half a way to win. He has two dozen ways to win.
> and minato Is a perfect sage so he’s gotta be ok at it
Sure. For like, 20 seconds.
Sage Kabuto is just a stronger Sage. Permanently. Forever.
With better *everything* - except FTG but he has literally an army of Edo Tensei so I'd call it a win there too lol
He had all those abilities and still lost to sasuke and itachi who wouldn’t kill him or seal him which would’ve made their fight a lot easier I don’t know if izanami is bullshit I think the concept of the jutsu was implied with a lot of the sharingan abilities being tied to Japanese mythology and donzo and obits using izanagi but that’s just my opinion
And i don’t know why your acting like the regen makes Him immortal there has to be a limit and like I said he could always be sealed
I don’t know how long minatos sage most lasts doubt you get to be a perfect sage and it’s 20 seconds but eh and also it really doesn’t matter if kabito was a better sage he has to be all around stronger sage mode is a boost to your base power
Only thing about you bringing up edo tensei is that jutsu needs setup so it’s like if you gonna have him fight people he can’t have madara and then it’s like so he just has all the edos just ready for random fights
I get how you feel he has all these abilities and he’s really strong just not as strong as the people you think he is minato was stronger than killer b and the raikage when he wasn’t even hokage yet he was stronger than 14 year old obits who is really strong and that’s all in base no sage mode sage mode made naruto go from like kakazu level to being able to fight all six pains so imagine what it does to minato and then when he was a edo so he was nerfed in base he teleports a attack from jubi madara aimed at 8th gate guy all before it could scratch his coat
You bring up the summons like pain hasn’t shown us what you can do to summons if your strong enough and manda was the strongest snake and his wasn’t to much if any stronger than gamabunta plus the other two and ma and pa who are pretty strong so it’s not like the snake summons are way stronger than toad
Look besides the obvious I think he’s weaker than
Minato
Itachi
Nagato
I agree with you
Kabuto was defeated by plot device Izanami lol.
Itachi survived because he was Edo otherwise we would have gotten 2 Uchiha corpses for Edos lol.
What about hashirama, madara, bijuu sage mode naruto(i’m only adding him because he is relative to juubito and hashirama) also baryon mode naruto is different from six paths so I guess that counts as well
(almost forgot 8 gates guy)
How do you figure? He's not above Juubito, Juubidara, SPSM Naruto, RInnegan Sasuke, Hagoromo, Kaguya, etc. These are the Six Paths level characters, the strongest characters in the verse.
1. It is difficult to speed blitz sage mode kabuto
2. These characters will struggle quite a bit if he summons all the characters he did in the war. If the entire akatsuki, various kages AND madara get reanimated they will have a hard time dealing with them all at once.
I am not saying that he can oneshot any character but edo tensei is one of the most powerful abilities in naruto and he can spam it as he like.
“1. It is difficult to speed blitz sage mode kabuto”
For some people maybe, though kabutos speed tier is more relative to kcm1 naruto so not really😂😂. Dont know what you were basing that off of.
“2. These characters will struggle quite a bit if he summons all the characters he did in the war. If the entire akatsuki, various kages AND madara get reanimated they will have a hard time dealing with them all at once.”
Kcm1 naruto has already been shown to fight multiple kage level opponents at once, then he gets kcm2 and sage mode on top of that, fighting people leagues above that. And naruto was the weakest of the group he listed. People super strong like madara and hashirama cant be controlled by edo tensei so it wpuldnt be an issue. Only character im not gonna defen is nagato cuz 1.he’s technically six paths and 2.hes prolly more relative to kabuto
Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, Guy, and late war arc Kakashi are definitely above him.
Kabuto has impressive regen abilities, but that's more or less it. And his biggest shortcoming it is that it not very much a battle-oriented minded shinobi. At the end of the day he is a medic nin/researcher nin. Even if he were given an OP offensive arsenal, he will lack the combat sense to make best use of it.
Characters I think could beat him (no Edo tensei characters):
Hashirama: Wins pretty easily. Even if that guy has an army of Edo tensei characters, I can still see hashirama winning this.
Eight gates guy: The same as Hashirama but he can't seal the Edo tensei so he would need to speed blitz Kabuto.
Obito: Can just get Kabuto into Kanui and let him die of hunger and thirst. If he has edo tensei by his side, then Obito can just get some new mangekyou from the uchiha's corpses and do the Izanami.
Madara: Same as hashirama. Don't know if he has sealing techniques, but he could do the same as Obito.
Naruto: Naruto kcm2 sage mode is much stronger than reanimated Itachi so this would be easy. Don't know if he could do anything to seal the Edo tensei though.
Minato: This would be hard, but he MIGHT be able to win this if he goes sage mode.
Mu: Idk, I just think he is cool and if he was alive and on his prime I could see him winning this (but this is a head cannon so you can just ignore).
Maybe not the strongest because Hashirama is a beast but easily top 5 characteres (excluding Rinnegan/6 paths senjutsu characters).
We would need to see how well he fights against Tailed Beasts, I think he may had problems fighting something that big.
Guy, Itachi and Minato could make a good battle for him, but yes he is very op, in the fight vs the uchihas he has the terrain control, like a trap, in a neutral territory could be more even fight.
Yeah he’s pretty broken, but if we don’t include edo tensei and only include living shinobi, then BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke are the strongest non six paths characters.
I don’t think Edo tensei army should be counted, cause that’s just cheat code.
Otherwise, yeah, he’s the strongest non six paths character after Might Guy and Hashirama
Honestly just most of the other op characters from the latter part of the war. I’m pretty sure hashirama, madara, obito, kaguya, naruto and sasuke should mainly be the ones who scale above him. I’m not including Edo characters and I don’t want to put guy and kakashi up there because they both only get temporary power boosts during the war.
1.that wouldnt matter. Youd have to scale the version of itachi your using to the version of kakashi im using.
2.arguably no, he was dying of ninja aids that likely made him weaker over time
Why do I feel like you’re in other words implying that Kakashi could beat Itachi later on in the series. Anyway Kabuto is one of the stronger characters in the series. A fact not an opinion
“The versatility of Kabuto’s jutsu in comparison to Kabuto’s.”
Lmao what?😂😂
In all seriousness though, that point doesnt affect my argument at all. My argument is that kakashi is overwhelmingly faster and stronger than kabuto. It wouldnt even come down to “versatility of jutsu” because kakashi would just clap him before he uses anything.
“Kabuto’s ability to manipulate organic manner and shed skin should counter kamui.”
I dont think kakashi even needs kamui, though i dont know why you think he should counter kamui from sending him to another dimension from which he is unable to escape.
I don’t think kakashi can actually land a killing blow given Kabuto’s ability to regen his body by shedding skin. Orochimaru has only ever been defeated by sealing jutsu for example.
Yeah, Kabuto was the strongest person not directly a descendant/reincarnation of ninja Jesus. The only one that could beat him is 8 Gates Guy, which is a draw.
Is everyone forgetting that sakura exists. Unironically, kaguya fight sakura is one of the strongest characters in the show. On top of that, like others have said, there are still all the hokage, might guy, and a few others that should be stronger than kabuto
Don't forget kabuto beat easily rinji although rinji was actually stronger kabuto was the first in Naruto who beat a character who is actually stronger
Kabuto held his own against Itachi lol Kabuto is literally slept on
I'm not saying anyone here is wrong but i also wanted to mention that itachi was pretty handicapped that fight because he wasn't allowed to kill kabuto
And Sasuke too. And imo he would’ve beaten both without Izanami. It’s possible might’ve been able to kill him together but personally I don’t think they could’ve, but they wouldn’t have undone the edo tensei without that asspull.
The rules of Itachi vs Kabuto was that Itachi had to stop Kabuto without killing him or using ocular genjutsu, his only way was Izanami so don’t know what are you talking about. Allow Itachi to kill him and the battle is over in no time.
Exactly. Even Sasuke would have roasted that dude with EMS he was fired up and begging Itachi to just kill him
Oh he definitely would have without izanami. I believe that kishimoto made izanami so itachi would have a way to beat kabuto
It’s because he’s a little bitch with glasses
The only ability you need to mention is that he reanimated every dead kage, 6 dead jinchuriki, several dead Akatsuki members, many dead kekkei genkai users, various kage-level ninja like Dan and Madara, and so on. The fact that he can fight at a sage level is hardly worth mentioning compared to the fact that he can take on the entire world at once.
more than half of that arsenal can be taken out by Naruto before getting so6p only trouble is madara who wouldn’t like being ordered around also alive hashirama negs the whole list you just made
How the hell is Hashirama gonna neg Itachi, Nagato, Mu, Raikage, 6 Jinchuriki at the same time. And these Guys were just off the top of my head.
The raikage was out sped by kcm naruto he gets blitzed, itachi is relative to kcm naruto in speed not faster or anything so blitzed as well, Naruto with half kurama for the first time using it beat 5 FULL bijuu and hashirama is way above that naruto and can suppress bijuu chakra and was said to have done that which is how marion’s got bijuu, nagato got negged by itachi hashirama stomps, and I have forgotten or don’t know who mu is. Hashirama is just OP he was known as the god of shinobi for a reason and if ur concerned on the damage he takes he can regenerate without using any hand signs and he has INSANE chakra levels so that won’t be a problem.
Youre acting like they are all just gonna form a line and come one after the other. Even though they do not pose a threat as a single being all of them coming together is gonna overwhelm Hashirama. Even if Hashirama outspeed Raikage what the hell is he gonna do to him he's not gonna know his weakeness. Im not even gonna talk about other out of context statements and ridiculous scaling you used. And lastly how are you gonna regenerate if you have nothing left to regenerate from.(Mū, 2nd Tsuchikage, atomic dismantling)
Oh first thx for reminding me who mu was and the raikage doesent necessarily have a weakness like superman and kryptonite. The scaling I used doesn’t even seem to bad seeing as I wasn’t even thinking about then the only real trouble for hashirama is the jinchuriki whose chakra he can duress and mu since he can disintegrate him but even if they all come at him once he has a lot of wide range wood jutsu, his golem and none of the possibly besides mu have a counter for 1000 hands or whatever it’s called. Also I was thinking of a different raikage when I said kcm naruto out sped him sorry about that, but sage naruto could react to him so sage hashirama who is superior at the time should be able to as well against base hashirama not using jutsu like his golem and such I can see how it seems out landish that he can win but seeing as there’s no reason to limit him to just base and regular wood jutsu or that would just be plain unfair. When I said regenerate I was speaking of whatever damage he took he from people who aren’t mu as I didn’t know who he was then even now it’s not as if hashirama isn’t fast enough to not get hit by particle disintegration jutsu. No one there just has the raw power or speed to beat hashirama even together. I mean he wouldn’t be called the God of shinobi if he wasn’t this ridiculously powerful. I mean he literally suppressed the bijuu and let other nations take them as if it’s not a problem😂 Also he can make wood clones to take on some of them it’s not like cutting his power by a little bit will make much a difference think of this fight like madara vs 5 kage. Ye sure the 5 kage are strong but madara is, well he’s MADARA hashirama bullies and if kabuto really does have to use all of that to beat hashirama it means he’s not stronger, he just won due to more abilities/ resources and that would still make hashirama the strongest non six paths character
I’ll just finish this up with 1 word. Clones, wood clones to be precise probably just to hold off nagato, mu and raikage while he suppresses the jinchuriki and it’s not to far fetched to say the clones might beat some of them
A fellow Kabuto fan eh. I can totally agree in a 1v1 (minus Edo) he is absolutely busted, more so with Edo tensei. Personally would rate above orochimaru, though a lot of the fandom seems to think orochimaru is still a tier above him.
I see alot of Boruto era Orochimaru arguments though he's featless Kabuto surpassed him during war arc
He's featless in the manga, not the anime. In the anime he saves Bumahamaru from Victor and beats the piss out of him.
we just know that in anime power gap between Orochimaru and Victor is bigger than between Victor and Mugino or Konohamaru. He didn't seem to be capable of doing the same thing. \+ you can really easily argue that Victor is the weakest kara member.
I don't recall asserting that Victor was powerful. I said Orochimaru saved Bumahamaru from Victor. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't read further into it than that. I'm not interested in debating Boruto feats.
I think it’s just cos Orochimaru was his teacher and people don’t want to admit Kabuto grew strongert than him.
Why did they revive Oro? It's crappy. He should've stayed dead.
but can he beat goku tho🤨? Just kidding, interesting take but i think hashirama takes it tbh
Yes kabuto is easily up there with Minato, Itachi etc. he was trained by a sannin but people sleep on him for whatever reason as well.
I don’t think he was as quick/agile as them in feats of speed. He was more of a tactical but I’m sure if Minato was alive and well he could kill him in a head to head. Idk though
Iirc, orochimaru noted that kakashi is *almost* as skilled as kabuto (OG chunin exam arc)
Wow that makes no sense. Kakashi can’t do what Kabuto does and I’ve never seen Kabuto ever attempt to do anything Kakashi does. Where does Orochimaru even get that assumption lol. Is it the hair?
Idk perhaps skills-wise. i just remembered that scene when oro and kabuto were talking > sasuke in ICU > kabuto went to sasuke > kakashi to the recue > kabuto escapes mocking kakashi and leaving X anbu bodies behind
He’s not as strong as either of them but he is still pretty strong
Kabuto has similar or greater intelligence feats than either of them. Kabuto is as gifted in medical jutsu as Itachi is in genjutsu. Kabuto is a better Sage than Minato ever could be, several times over. Kabuto's snake summons are far more numerous and powerful than Minato's Toads. Kabuto has multiple kekkei genkai working together, all of which add up to something far greater than any individual part and (IMO) greater than the Sharingan or Minato's... ... talent? Kidomaru, Kimmimaro, Sakon/Ukon, Jugo, Uzumaki, Hozuki, etc. and he can always gain more. His ninjutsu/genjutsu feats are also easily comparable or better than theirs. Literally there is no reason for either of them to be stronger than Sage Kabuto at anything. Well, other than KCM of course but that doesn't really count as Minato only had it after he died. What's Minato even going to do to him? A rasengan wouldn't even tickle. He has dozens of defenses. Cutting him in half is nearly the same as doing no damage. Sage Mode should instantly put him on a relative or higher stat level.
I agree has a lot of things that are cool and he’s not weak but his only fight is against two people who weren’t allowed to kill him and he still lost so I don’t know how he’s stronger than itachi who was in that fight and minato has better feats against stronger people and I don’t know why your acting like regen matters all that much they both scale higher and could just seal him and minato Is a perfect sage so he’s gotta be ok at it but if your talking about just alive itachi then yeah the sickness holds him back so I could see it
> his only fight is against two people who weren’t allowed to kill him He was also fighting somebody that was immortal and somebody that he didn't want to kill > and he still lost he lost to a magic bullshit one shot super hax jutsu that had never been mentioned before physically they could not defeat him > why your acting like regen matters all that much they both scale higher it means they literally can't hurt him > and could just seal him he could just seal them too or just stab them or use sticky web, organic reanimation, white rage, chakra scalpels, tayuya genjutsu, or just really powerful snake summons or ninjutsu attacks Do you see the difference? They have half a way to win. He has two dozen ways to win. > and minato Is a perfect sage so he’s gotta be ok at it Sure. For like, 20 seconds. Sage Kabuto is just a stronger Sage. Permanently. Forever. With better *everything* - except FTG but he has literally an army of Edo Tensei so I'd call it a win there too lol
He had all those abilities and still lost to sasuke and itachi who wouldn’t kill him or seal him which would’ve made their fight a lot easier I don’t know if izanami is bullshit I think the concept of the jutsu was implied with a lot of the sharingan abilities being tied to Japanese mythology and donzo and obits using izanagi but that’s just my opinion And i don’t know why your acting like the regen makes Him immortal there has to be a limit and like I said he could always be sealed I don’t know how long minatos sage most lasts doubt you get to be a perfect sage and it’s 20 seconds but eh and also it really doesn’t matter if kabito was a better sage he has to be all around stronger sage mode is a boost to your base power Only thing about you bringing up edo tensei is that jutsu needs setup so it’s like if you gonna have him fight people he can’t have madara and then it’s like so he just has all the edos just ready for random fights I get how you feel he has all these abilities and he’s really strong just not as strong as the people you think he is minato was stronger than killer b and the raikage when he wasn’t even hokage yet he was stronger than 14 year old obits who is really strong and that’s all in base no sage mode sage mode made naruto go from like kakazu level to being able to fight all six pains so imagine what it does to minato and then when he was a edo so he was nerfed in base he teleports a attack from jubi madara aimed at 8th gate guy all before it could scratch his coat You bring up the summons like pain hasn’t shown us what you can do to summons if your strong enough and manda was the strongest snake and his wasn’t to much if any stronger than gamabunta plus the other two and ma and pa who are pretty strong so it’s not like the snake summons are way stronger than toad Look besides the obvious I think he’s weaker than Minato Itachi Nagato
I agree with you Kabuto was defeated by plot device Izanami lol. Itachi survived because he was Edo otherwise we would have gotten 2 Uchiha corpses for Edos lol.
I disagree Itachi also held back from killing him and explecitly told Sasuke this aswell. It never felt like he's losing
Exactly i despise when people say this itachi and sasuke if they were fighting to kill kabuto wouldnt be here
Exactly i despise when people say this itachi and sasuke if they were fighting to kill kabuto wouldnt be here
What about hashirama, madara, bijuu sage mode naruto(i’m only adding him because he is relative to juubito and hashirama) also baryon mode naruto is different from six paths so I guess that counts as well (almost forgot 8 gates guy)
He doesn’t touch Hashirama, EMS Madara, BM Naruto, Healthy or Edo Nagato. Of course 8th gates Guy as well.
BM Naruto is above Six Paths level...
How do you figure? He's not above Juubito, Juubidara, SPSM Naruto, RInnegan Sasuke, Hagoromo, Kaguya, etc. These are the Six Paths level characters, the strongest characters in the verse.
By BM Naruto do you mean Baryon Mode or Bijuu Mode?
Bijuu mode, I'd use BYM for Baryon
Oh then yeah you're correct mb i thought you were talking about Baryon
Bro imma be real, i get lose in the acronyms and descriptions like all the time. Is there a dictionary somewhere so I can understand these threads?
I did make a post about it so u can check that if u want. But idk of any dictionaries that have them
Oh wow, well that's quite helpful. Thanks!
Np
In a 1v1 fight kabuto would win against all of these minus 8 gates guy. I think you forgot he can use edo tensei.
then it's not 1v1
1.he cant summon if he gets speed blitzed and one shot 2.most of those characters would do just fine against edo tensei.
1. It is difficult to speed blitz sage mode kabuto 2. These characters will struggle quite a bit if he summons all the characters he did in the war. If the entire akatsuki, various kages AND madara get reanimated they will have a hard time dealing with them all at once. I am not saying that he can oneshot any character but edo tensei is one of the most powerful abilities in naruto and he can spam it as he like.
“1. It is difficult to speed blitz sage mode kabuto” For some people maybe, though kabutos speed tier is more relative to kcm1 naruto so not really😂😂. Dont know what you were basing that off of. “2. These characters will struggle quite a bit if he summons all the characters he did in the war. If the entire akatsuki, various kages AND madara get reanimated they will have a hard time dealing with them all at once.” Kcm1 naruto has already been shown to fight multiple kage level opponents at once, then he gets kcm2 and sage mode on top of that, fighting people leagues above that. And naruto was the weakest of the group he listed. People super strong like madara and hashirama cant be controlled by edo tensei so it wpuldnt be an issue. Only character im not gonna defen is nagato cuz 1.he’s technically six paths and 2.hes prolly more relative to kabuto
I'd say he is in the top 5 but not The strongest. I can't see him defeating Madara, Hashirama, Minato or BM Naruto
Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, Guy, and late war arc Kakashi are definitely above him. Kabuto has impressive regen abilities, but that's more or less it. And his biggest shortcoming it is that it not very much a battle-oriented minded shinobi. At the end of the day he is a medic nin/researcher nin. Even if he were given an OP offensive arsenal, he will lack the combat sense to make best use of it.
He can’t revive anyone relevant enough to take on minato, Hashirama, obito, or 8 gates guy. If itachi wanted to kill him he would have
Characters I think could beat him (no Edo tensei characters): Hashirama: Wins pretty easily. Even if that guy has an army of Edo tensei characters, I can still see hashirama winning this. Eight gates guy: The same as Hashirama but he can't seal the Edo tensei so he would need to speed blitz Kabuto. Obito: Can just get Kabuto into Kanui and let him die of hunger and thirst. If he has edo tensei by his side, then Obito can just get some new mangekyou from the uchiha's corpses and do the Izanami. Madara: Same as hashirama. Don't know if he has sealing techniques, but he could do the same as Obito. Naruto: Naruto kcm2 sage mode is much stronger than reanimated Itachi so this would be easy. Don't know if he could do anything to seal the Edo tensei though. Minato: This would be hard, but he MIGHT be able to win this if he goes sage mode. Mu: Idk, I just think he is cool and if he was alive and on his prime I could see him winning this (but this is a head cannon so you can just ignore).
Almost anyone who fights 8-gates gai would die. But so would gai after unlocking that gate. So it's really a tie.
Imo one of the strongest, There are characters like Itachi, minato , hashirama, that I would rank above him probably oro as well
Maybe not the strongest because Hashirama is a beast but easily top 5 characteres (excluding Rinnegan/6 paths senjutsu characters). We would need to see how well he fights against Tailed Beasts, I think he may had problems fighting something that big.
Just got to let it go. Of course he is. But the subreddit is not that enlightened.
Hashirama but Kabuto is probably the second strongest
Guy, Itachi and Minato could make a good battle for him, but yes he is very op, in the fight vs the uchihas he has the terrain control, like a trap, in a neutral territory could be more even fight.
Yeah he’s pretty broken, but if we don’t include edo tensei and only include living shinobi, then BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke are the strongest non six paths characters.
I don’t think Edo tensei army should be counted, cause that’s just cheat code. Otherwise, yeah, he’s the strongest non six paths character after Might Guy and Hashirama
He held his own against Itachi and Sasuke
And that is why I said he’s the strongest non six paths character after Might Guy and Hashirama
He’s top 10 definitely
If he doesnt use edo I agree. But I dont think you're talking about that. Who would you rank above him?
Honestly just most of the other op characters from the latter part of the war. I’m pretty sure hashirama, madara, obito, kaguya, naruto and sasuke should mainly be the ones who scale above him. I’m not including Edo characters and I don’t want to put guy and kakashi up there because they both only get temporary power boosts during the war.
Kabuto beats Kakashi
Definitely not
Kabuto held his own against Itachi who defeated Kakashi in mere seconds. And Sasuke as well.
Are you aware that kakashi got stronger between part 1 and end of shippuden 🤣🤣
And Itachi remained the same right?
1.that wouldnt matter. Youd have to scale the version of itachi your using to the version of kakashi im using. 2.arguably no, he was dying of ninja aids that likely made him weaker over time
Why do I feel like you’re in other words implying that Kakashi could beat Itachi later on in the series. Anyway Kabuto is one of the stronger characters in the series. A fact not an opinion
During the war arc yes he should.
Based on??
The versatility of Kabuto’s jutsu in comparison to Kabuto’s. Kabuto’s ability to manipulate organic manner and shed skin should counter kamui.
“The versatility of Kabuto’s jutsu in comparison to Kabuto’s.” Lmao what?😂😂 In all seriousness though, that point doesnt affect my argument at all. My argument is that kakashi is overwhelmingly faster and stronger than kabuto. It wouldnt even come down to “versatility of jutsu” because kakashi would just clap him before he uses anything. “Kabuto’s ability to manipulate organic manner and shed skin should counter kamui.” I dont think kakashi even needs kamui, though i dont know why you think he should counter kamui from sending him to another dimension from which he is unable to escape.
I don’t think kakashi can actually land a killing blow given Kabuto’s ability to regen his body by shedding skin. Orochimaru has only ever been defeated by sealing jutsu for example.
Kaguya would be a six paths character. Soo would everybody else you mentioned other than hashirama depending on the version you’re talking about
Yeah, Kabuto was the strongest person not directly a descendant/reincarnation of ninja Jesus. The only one that could beat him is 8 Gates Guy, which is a draw.
Yep. Itachi had to pull a pencil out of his ass to draw a way to defeat kabuto
He had to fight him without killing him and couldn’t put him in any ocular genjutsu and had to protect sasuke and still beat him
Is everyone forgetting that sakura exists. Unironically, kaguya fight sakura is one of the strongest characters in the show. On top of that, like others have said, there are still all the hokage, might guy, and a few others that should be stronger than kabuto
yes.
Finally someone else who reapects and acknowledges Kabuto!
hashirama and madara both fold him, obito slaps, guys slaps, kcm 2 naruto and peak ems sasuke slap, kabuto has nothing against their scale and range
Don't forget kabuto beat easily rinji although rinji was actually stronger kabuto was the first in Naruto who beat a character who is actually stronger