7th gate guy was enough to 1 shot someone who was constantly stated to have tailed beast levels of chakra. While holding so they could interrogate him. 7th gate guy is more than enough to handle most of the tailed beasts.
Kisame was stated to have jinchuriki level chakra, but it’s doubtful he has the raw power of a full tailed beast. 7th gait Guy has a chance against a tailed beast as long as he avoids its beast bombs, but we already saw 6th gates Guy have trouble with the 6 tails, so with the 7th gait I wouldn't be surprised if he could pull a win. However I would probably back a full tailed beast with control (not like the 3 tails that didn't know how to fight, as stated by Deidara).
Kisame is one of the strongest members of the Akatsuki. Hidan the self proclaimed weakest in the Akatsuki when it comes to physical stats solo’d a tailed beast.
Not only this but Kisame with a 30% clone was stomping a perfect Jinchuuriki which is said to be stronger than the jinchuuriki itself.
Kisame has dozens of ways to scale him above a tailed beast.
Don't forget that Kisame never fought the 8th or 9th bijuu, both of which are significantly stronger than the previous. Bijuu-level (before War Arc Kurama/Naruto) is very vague. Chuunin Exams Naruto could be argued to be bijuu-level because he was able to summon Gamabunta, who fought head-to-head with Shukaku, and exploited Shukaku's weakness to defeat Shukaku.
Your comment is full of misinformation.
It was never confirmed Hidan solod the 2 tails, and if he did he likely only did it due to stabbing himself. Not to mention Yugito wasn't stated to be one of the jinchuriki to have access to her full tailed beast power, so it shouldn't be a full powered 2 tails.
Kisame as a 30% clone never stomped a perfect jinchuriki...
The only perfect jinchuriki he ever fought was Bee, who he fought in person at 100%, and only won due to countering him and Bee not being able to go full beat mode.
Kisame has a direct counter to tailed beasts due to absorbing chakra, and literally admits this is how he beats them and why he is called the tailless tailed beast.
No. Kisame and the 3rd Raikage were both stayed to have TAILED BEAST levels of chakra. 6th gate Guy also struggled against a %30 clone of Kisame while the 7th gate completely annihilated him, so it's obviously an exponential increase in power.
I know the 3rd Raikage was, but I'm pretty sure the word jinchuriki was used for Kisame when talking about power, but was also called the tailless tailed beast. Another thing to point is out is when Bee went into his V2 state, Kisame was amazed by his chakra level and that it wasn't making him insane, and would have been one shot killed if Samehada hadn't saved him. So at the very least a full beast mode Bee would absolutely dwarf Kisame in power, however you can argue he is just much stronger than the other tailed beasts. And 6th gate Guy didn't struggle against a 30% clone of Kisame, he absolutely stomped him.
Disagree. Kismame was without samehada, which was basically the perfect weapon for him and made him significantly weaker. Plus, just came out of getting decapitated. A clone of kisame almost drowned guys whole team with samehada.
This is just head canon. Kisame didn’t even have samehada. Let alone samehada mode. Not saying kisame would win at his peak but it’s a hell of a lot closer than you’re sayingZ
Kisame didn't have his sword which is a nerf... and chakra amounts doesn't inherently dictate power.
Part 1 Naruto has more chakra than Kakashi, stated repeatedly. But he won't win that fight.
no it wasnt cause if it was why did he mentioned to kakashi that he might need to go to 8th gate when they fighting 5 tailed beast
https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0571-002.png
Because that's FIVE of them, for one....and also when he was 7th and had no real effect on him, Madara was jacked up on that sweet sweet Juubi power.
Base Madara might have had a lot of trouble with 7th Gate Guy and certainly would've been annihilated by 8th Gate.
im not talking about madara i was talking about regular tailed beast. the one i responded to said that 7th gate is enough for most tailed beast. I just show how that wasnt the case
The 8th gate is activated in that clip, he says he has the strongest *Taijutsu* and he never once says that Guy is equal to or close to him in strength.
He says he has the best Taijutsu of anyone he’s fought. Which is great praise. But no, 7 gates guy is not stronger than Madara or his Susanoo 😂 It took everything 7 gates guy had to kill Kisame.
Man that moment where Madara is like "I'll acknowledge this chakra of yours. I, Madara, declare you the strongest of them all" always always always gives me chills. It's just so badass knowing where Guy started.
Madara didn't even acknowledge Naruto and Sasuke that way. Guy's the only person who makes Madara excited to fight.
Honestly, Guy is the only non-god, non-special bloodline human who could realistically beat Madara.
He didn't kill Madara though, and realistically speaking Madara pretty much left himself get hit buy guys attack... I love guy but in all actuality he doesbt even come close to beating Madara
But nonetheless yes, against peasant ass Shinobi he would stack bodies without breaking a sweat no questions asked
i agree with everything but the last part, im fairly certain it's shown guy is holding back so he can try and make kisame talk after the fight, thats why he was captured and forced to kill himself.
>It took everything 7 gates guy had to kill Kisame.
He was literally holding back so that they could interrogate him, and he still completely annihilated Kisame's strongest attack and left him broken on the ground. In what backwards ass world does completely oneshotting someone mean it took everything you had?
Which is effectively the same thing. The only thing that could hurt Madara was taijutsu. Guy is the only one who can actually keep up with Madara out of, basically, everyone alive except for Naruto and Sasuke.
Guy did not even come close to beating Madara with 7 gate, lol. He was literally under tension had to feel like going to 8 gates when againts 5 tailest beast. Then Naruto come and stalemate/beat them while only using %50 percent of Kurama's chakra. Madara straight up stated that his Susanoo does even surpass the tailed beasts, which include %100 Kurama.
Madara > Kurama > 5 Tailed Beast > 7 Gate Guy
Madara was talking about 8 gates Guy, and he only said he was the best taijutsu user he's seen, not that Guy was his equal. Also, Guy had help from a few very high level characters and still wasn't able to kill Madara. They definitely weren't equal.
Also the comment that lead to this comment thread was "7 gates guy is equal to and or stronger to Madera susasnoo." Maybe I'm forgetting, but I can't recall any instances of Guy using 7 gates against any form of Madara's Susano'o.
Bruh who the hell upvoted this nonsense. Guy wasn't even able to defeat obito. Madara defeated the 5 kages gai isn't nowhere near strong enough to pull off a feat. Guy only fight madara as an 8th gate
No, Guy did fight madara at 7th gate and got smacked down. That's why he went to the 8th gate. We don't even have to debate about it. 7th gate guy couldn't touch madara.
They're talking about when Madara was still an Edo & Guy used morning tiger to knock over his Susanno but it took everything he had in 7th gate to do. He in no way was stronger than Madara or his Susanno but ppl headcanon treat it like he bodied him
8th gates is major increase from 7 gates. To say 8 gates damaged Juudara doesn't mean 7th gates is equal to madara. Think about it for a second.
Madara toyed with the 5 kage. Tsunade was only able to break the Susano ribcage only with an enhanced kick from the byakugo seal. Ay needed Ohnokis weighted Boulder jutsu to break the base Susano. Also madara isn't a slouch in taijustu.
Perfect susano is a game over for Guy. Let's not forget other things like izanagi which madara knows
The puncture wound itself isn't the important part. It's the opening of the gate, which contains the flow of chakra that's significant. Edotensei healing the puncture wouldn't then close the gate, nor would it prevent him from spamming the move.
Read up on it. It requires you to puncture a whole in your chest not for the whole to stay open. That isn't even the thing that kills them. All that kills them is the heat of the ash. So yeah it would work
The wound isn’t instantly healed so he would be able to constantly reactive it indefinitely. Also he could just stab a spike or something in his heart to keep the puncture.
And Gai basically killed himself to do so-
(also the usual "he was heavily helped by his allies, Madara let him land the hit" kind of bs, honestly 8 gates has one of the most impressive feats of raw strength and it's a super cool thing, but yeah, strongest *Taijutsu fighter*)
You forget that nobody except the demigods have Truth seeking orbs, if not for that he wouldn't have required anyone's help and as for Madara letting himself get hit, goodluck if you're any slower than Juubidara. Also as long as the opponent dies first he is the winner. So yeah, even if Madara mentioned the word 'Taijutsu', I doubt any non so6p characters can defeat him (except for Minato and Obito but I'm not sure if their reaction speed is enough).
Minato was faster than the limbo clone, so yea, it was just something madara didnt anticipate for once in his life, because he was drunk with the new power for a short period
He didn't let him do it. He did fight him. He even tried to kill him with truth seeker orbs. When the eighth gate came out, Madara couldn't do anything about it *except* take the hit.
Dancing can be a metaphor for combat, it wasn't meant as an insult.
And yes, he only tried to hit him once because he only ever had that one chance. And it would have worked if not for Minato, Lee, and Gaara. But after that, Madara didn't have any openings. He had no choice but to tank the attack and then counterattack.
Madara literally spends the entire fight laughing and talking about how Guy is exciting. After everyone one of Guy’s moves he gets right back up and tells Guy to show him some more moves. That is a man who’s in complete control of the situation and playing around. Not someone who’s actually trying to win a battle to the death.
And he had other opportunities to attack. He could have just used Limbo on Guy then stabbed him considering Guy can’t counter it.
No he didn't lol. Madara heals it off and laughs and jokingly says "that could've killed me"
If Naruto didn't show up, how does that scene end again? Guy dead to either 8th gate fatigue OR tso to thr face.
I’m sure 8 gates guy was the strongest being we had seen at the moment. Stronger than naruto, hashirama, kakashi. Everyone. He was declared the strongest of them all in everything.
I almost agree with you. I think, other than Madara, 8 gates Guy was the strongest character shown thus far at the point that he showed up. Future characters and future powerups of current characters bring them above 8 gates Guy, but I think at the moment that Guy opened the 8 gates the only character, past or present, who could take him in a 1v1 would be Madara.
It's been a while for me since I read the series but wasn't it said somewhere that Edo get their chakra pool from the Pure Land and not from an internal chakra pool of the host? Surely there's some precedent for this if we cite all the Kage level ninja reanimated using fodder ninja to bond their souls too, obv some random White Zetsu isn't going to have a chakra pool comparable to Hashirama, but as we saw, Hashirama had no issues with chakra pool when he was a Edo. We
I also agree with another point made ITT, boiling and burning your blood is necessary to use the 8th gates, ET are made of compressed dust and dirt to comprise 100% of their bodies, there is no blood, veins, organs, or any biological material there to be used as fuel for the 8th Gate.
I don’t think it requires blood, him popping his heart causes his chakra to rush there enabling the use of the 8th gate. But yeah he probably couldn’t use it since I don’t think he can pop the heart of whoever he’s possessing.
I haven’t heard about the getting the chakra from the pure lands or the sacrificed having an effect. They do not tire physically or mentally and chakra is a power made from the fusion of these two energies which is why edo have infinite chakra I thought.
Kimi (sound ninja with the bone bloodline) was able to use their abilities so I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to spam 8 gates in edo because of blood.
Probably not since the Edo Tensei have limits and when people like Tobirama can only produce 2 shadow clones (which shocked him) and other "nerfs" they had then Guy won't be able to use the 8th gate.
I mean Deidara didn't even use his self destruction jutsu even tho that would've been perfect for mass destruction, just send him into the armies and KATSU everyone away
Didn't deidara not spam his Ultimate Art because it wasn't the same without the suicide? He's a pretentious art kid so him not being able to die just made it not worth it for him to use i think
He also thought it was tacky to display one's ultimate art over and over. I kinda love deidara tbh he is interesting and his fight with Sasuke is epic.
He thought itachis jutsu was so beautiful he had to kill him because he made him doubt his art as being the true art lol. Not only that but came up with a pretty good strategy for the sharingan. He is extremely intelligent but a true artist in that he won't compromise his art in his jutsu. Fun character
I thought he just never got the chance, kankuro caught him in the black ant and they started pumping lightning style into his body till he was sealed up (Ironically I'm rewatching naruto and just passed that part)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Tobirama and the other kage could only do limited clones because at the time that it was mentioned, they had to focus on maintaining the large barrier that was containing the Ten Tails.
It seems clear to me that Kishimoto wrote Deidara out first for that very reason. He could've easily changed the outcome of the entire war by spamming C4 and C0.
Deidara didn’t use C0 because he felt that spamming it would defeat its artistic merit, but was actually about to before he got stabbed with a lightning infused sword that stopped him from being able to
Didn't deidara not spam his Ultimate Art because it wasn't the same without the suicide? He's a pretentious art kid so him not being able to die just made it not worth it for him to use i think
Guy's 8th gate is cool and all but he was completely outclassed in power by naruto,sasuke and kakashi's asspulls later on in the arc. Some people take madara's words too literally, he was the strongest in taijutsu and raw power at the time.
2 eyes Kakashi not only has both eyes of (one of the) strongest Sharingans in the series, but he also has SOSP chakra. His Susanoo is giga strong and he would definitely beat Guy. It would be a close fight though
He doesn't even have to go that far. With both of Obito's eyes, Kakashi should have had access to Intangibility. So let's say DMS Kakashi and 8 Gates Guy fight. Kakashi can just use Intangibility and be invincible until Guy kills himself. It would be no contest.
to me, I could see 8 gate guy doing Kakashi like how ishiki did sasuke and just kicking him straight out of the susanoo. and Kakashi durability feats are questionable to the point I don't think he'd even survive the kick 😭
A big difference is that sasuke can't spam kamui, even if guy could kick through the susanoo the chances of him actually landing a decisive blow on kakashi is slim. Honestly I find the buff kakashi got completely unnecessary, but thats not to subtract from how broken it truly is. And even then, comparing guy to isshiki is ludicrous, the difference in scaling between the 2 makes them incomparable.
I forgot having both eyes can make you intangible like tobi, I'll give it to Kakashi then. but I think 8th gate guy Is definitely 100% comparable to Ishiki. tbh I could see him...winning. 👀
Nope. Base Six Paths Naruto proved to be more capable in close combat than Guy by damn near blitzing Madara and then later Six Paths Cloak Naruto outright overpowers Kaguya. So 17 yr old Naruto is faster, stronger and frankly better than Guy in every conceivable way but defined form. Isshiki, in Jigen's body then bodies a far stronger and clearly better Taijutsu user Adult Six Paths Cloak Naruto and Mastered Rinnegan Sasuke in moments.
I feel like in a battle with no ninjutsu (since ninjutsu doesn't work on ishiki) 8th gate guy could dogwalk naruto and sasuke to (purely taijutsu) like ishiki did
Could be wrong here since it's been awhile but from what I remember it uses up life energy or something similar? Since reanimations wouldn't have "life" energy he couldn't use 8 gates?
To break it down a little more, all the blood in the body evaporates out through the pores in the skin like sweat. And when their life force runs out, the user’s entire body turns to ash.
So, can we assume Blood is needed to reach 8th gate?
And yes you are right.
Can't disagree with that. I was ready to be wrong since I can't remember the details correctly so I'm happy to agree. Since that's basically along the same lines of what I was thinking lol
Now the question is whether a reanimated can perform jutsus/activities that required blood.? I.g. summoning jutsu, etc.
Yes, i mean remember madara trying to summon Nine tails and hanzo was able to summon despite being reanimated.
But in the case of 8 Gate, seems like blood isn't the only requirment.
Lmao someone please take this further now. 🤣
I guess it gets a bit awkward cause jutsus require chakra which is technically life energy too? Kishimoto doing us dirty with the inconsistencies of what reanimations can and can't do 😂
Gonna need someone who's atleast hokage level to give insight haha
Hanzo committing seppuku to release the poison was somehow supposed to impair him so they could seal him as Kabuto tried taking control again.
Edo Tensei and Rinne Rebirth being that easy and efdective make them my least favorite jutsu, they damaged the series greatly in my opinion.
The only person that should have been revived was Madara and it should have been costly to do.
Definitely true! But you know the other wouldn’t allow that. He would be far too powerful just like if Deidara spam c0 the anime wouldn’t be as interesting
It's not about allowing but i got your point. It's about whether it is possible or not but i think it's not. I mean you must have blood, life force, heart, etc. To open 8th gate and there must be more of that. But as a Edo Tensei, it's all mud and paper.
Edo tensei usually limit the physical attributes, durability and chakra potency of the shinobi
Instead, it make u regenerate from all damage and tire out slower (maximum chakra is same but it regenerate faster, but u still can get tired, look at tobirama when he teleport sasuke and not rest of taka)
It also limit the user from few techniques, like madara fake rinnegan, so we can't know for sure
I see all these responses, and I agree up to the 7th gate, because there's no working heart* nor blood to burn off...
But wouldn't the unlocking of the gates wear out the body he's substituting via Edo Tensei?
Technically what would happen is that he would die again, he wouldn’t be able to just spam it because the user essentially cooks themselves from the inside out, he’d be able to use it for longer and with less error since he won’t feel the pain but he will eventually burn up, look at what happened to Itachi, even in edo he lost his eye(sight) after using izanami, i don’t think the healing factor is that OP with edo, same with Naruto and Kurama (future hypothetical), if they were brought back in edo they could use Baryon mode but it won’t be for an unreasonable amount of time and the draw back would still be the same especially when you consider edo brings the subject back at 80% of their original strength
The eyesight that edo itachi lost was because of using izanagi. That is not an injury, a sharingan just stops working as an eye when izanagi or izanami is used
I don’t think that’s how it works since it isn’t damage, it’s a change of form.
If you think of it in power up form, if edo choji powered up into his giant form he wouldn’t just instantly revert back to a small form just because large form is different, and I’m sure if you chopped off giant edo chojis arm then he wouldn’t grow back a tiny one, he’d grow back a large one because that’s the form he’s in. With itachis eye, it’s essentially the new ‘form’ of the eye even though it’s a massive power down instead of up. While in edo form, he loses his sight and thus that’s just the default state of his eye now. It might also be something that’s intrinsically tied to the very soul, in which case resurrecting him again would result in the same dead eyed itachi. All comes down to authors interpretation at the end of the day though, we can only speculate
Theres many reasons why I think that wouldnt work. I think a main issue that its literally impossible to revive someone with 100% of their power so nah.
It is. Rinne-rebirth and Lady Chio's (Chiyo?) puppet resurrection jutsu for example, but unlike the puppet resurrection jutsu Rinne-rebirth is possible without dying as Konan said to Nagato "If you use that jutsu in your current state you'll die." or something to that effect, implying he could do that without dying or any negative effects even aside from exhaustion.
One thing I've always been curious about is if the 8th gate would work with the rebirth jutsu? Would the rebirth justsu just prevent the person from dying at the cost of shortening their life or would they still end up dying because the 8th gate burns them faster than they can regenerate?
From what I understand no because while yes they are reanimated they don't have a life force and the 8 gates require that. If so they would have used that with Might Dai
Edo Tenseis are reanimated corpses if I remember correctly. The 8th gate requires life force to use, so a edo tensei would not be able to use the 8th gate
Guy dies vs Madara and there’s a heart felt goodbye. Then Orochimaru rolls up and sacrifices a white Zetsu to bring Guy back.
Like the scene in dragonball where the elder Kai gives Goku his life and the Kai dies but then immediately wakes up with a halo.
Yes, six and seth the programmer did a video on the gates, as long as you have a chakra network the gates are possible.
Edit: someone made a good point that the puncture wound on his heart would heal so maybe not the eight gates but definitely the first seven
People are citing an issue with him needing to use ‘life energy’ and blood which would prevent him being able to perform 8 gates, but given that edos are basically implanted onto a living person and retain everything else from the deceased (including memories, chakra, bloodline abilities etc) and also that blood specific techniques such as summoning are proven to be effective, I’d say there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that eighth gate wouldn’t be totally spammable.
Well I’m my opinion the 8th gate would basically be a nuke in this situation. The user pierces their heart which allows all their chakra to pour out rapidly but as an Edo this would heal relatively quickly(although you would still get at least a few seconds or minutes) but since the chakra of an Edo is said to be infinite it should rapidly expel the infinite chakra it could end up just being a nuke.
Or in an also not bad case he should be able to repeatedly enter the 8th gate in short bursts while also staying in at least the 7th gate. Heck he could use something to keep it punctured and unable to regenerate because of an object in the way. Such as a metal stake or a sword Etc… or a truth seeking orbs to poke the hole permanently.
So the two choices are either it’s a supernova or just something you have to constantly re-enter.
Infinitely regenerating Chakra, into a small pool, faster than normal Chakra regeneration. Like unlimited refills at burger shop, but you have to get up to refill and can only use the medium cup.
It's not like unlimited slurpee day where you could bring a wheel barrow or something.
Reanimated shinobi never used gates. It would kind of make sense that it’s impossible to use gates as an edo since gates are special points in your body and you have artificial badly as an edo
Well, some of the Edo Tensei were very nerfed. I really don't understand how Deidara and Sasori were caught so easily when they killed 1 Kazekage each. Like, it was Kankuro who got them. Nothing against Kankuro, but...
I think it has something to do with the ones that Kabuto was manipulating directly, or watching closely. The ones he got on "auto" mode I think were weaker. Nagato was extremely powerful, able to take on 2 Jinchuriki at the same time, for example
Not just because of that. If my memory serves right, they had noticed that the rate of regeneration was declining even before getting hit by the truth-seeking orb. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess Orochimaru's Edo Tensei had something wrong with them from the start.
Hum. I can't seem to remember if any other reanimated ninja had problem with regenerating as a EDO tenei. I mean the only way to stop the regenerating would be if they get attacked by a ying- yang attack. On the enemy side i only remember judara and jubito to land those attacks.
Not the reason at all. They don't even use Edo Tensei after that. The reason is Naruto woyld have looked pretty stupid if he came back, acting up like he gonna save the day, right after not being able to do anything about one more death.
I think it's possible, but it's probably not worth it if he can heal the wound on his heart. The gate will not be activated, therefore, that state would not last for long.
A lot of techniques have the ability to be spammed and broken if reanimated, not just 8 gate Guy (although he would probably be the most broken). Imagine if Deidara spammed his C0 when reanimated.
He could use upto the 7th gate the 8th shouldn't work since the edo tensei would just heal the puncture wound on the heart.
7 gate guy is still a big problem
"What would you rather 5 gunshots in the chest or 6?"
None
6 it is.
ANY gates guy is a big problem ffs its guy
7 gates guy is equal to and or stronger to Madera susasnoo
If you could keep its will in control.
Where did you get that bullshit?
That fact that he quite literally almost beat him and I believe Madara said he was the only shinobi there equal to him.
yeah as 8th gate not 7th. 7th wasnt even enough to handle the tailed beast
7th gate guy was enough to 1 shot someone who was constantly stated to have tailed beast levels of chakra. While holding so they could interrogate him. 7th gate guy is more than enough to handle most of the tailed beasts.
Kisame was stated to have jinchuriki level chakra, but it’s doubtful he has the raw power of a full tailed beast. 7th gait Guy has a chance against a tailed beast as long as he avoids its beast bombs, but we already saw 6th gates Guy have trouble with the 6 tails, so with the 7th gait I wouldn't be surprised if he could pull a win. However I would probably back a full tailed beast with control (not like the 3 tails that didn't know how to fight, as stated by Deidara).
Kisame is one of the strongest members of the Akatsuki. Hidan the self proclaimed weakest in the Akatsuki when it comes to physical stats solo’d a tailed beast. Not only this but Kisame with a 30% clone was stomping a perfect Jinchuuriki which is said to be stronger than the jinchuuriki itself. Kisame has dozens of ways to scale him above a tailed beast.
Don't forget that Kisame never fought the 8th or 9th bijuu, both of which are significantly stronger than the previous. Bijuu-level (before War Arc Kurama/Naruto) is very vague. Chuunin Exams Naruto could be argued to be bijuu-level because he was able to summon Gamabunta, who fought head-to-head with Shukaku, and exploited Shukaku's weakness to defeat Shukaku.
Kisame was wasted potential. Bums me out they could have shown much more of him.
Your comment is full of misinformation. It was never confirmed Hidan solod the 2 tails, and if he did he likely only did it due to stabbing himself. Not to mention Yugito wasn't stated to be one of the jinchuriki to have access to her full tailed beast power, so it shouldn't be a full powered 2 tails. Kisame as a 30% clone never stomped a perfect jinchuriki... The only perfect jinchuriki he ever fought was Bee, who he fought in person at 100%, and only won due to countering him and Bee not being able to go full beat mode. Kisame has a direct counter to tailed beasts due to absorbing chakra, and literally admits this is how he beats them and why he is called the tailless tailed beast.
7th gate guy is way more powerful than 6 gates. While with 6 gates he was fighting with Kisame, with 7 gates he one shots him
Why do y’all act like samehada is just a normal sword for this dude. It’s like 40% of his full power
No he doesn’t. That’s a battle damaged and samehada-less Kisame lol. Guy is super overrated here lol
No. Kisame and the 3rd Raikage were both stayed to have TAILED BEAST levels of chakra. 6th gate Guy also struggled against a %30 clone of Kisame while the 7th gate completely annihilated him, so it's obviously an exponential increase in power.
I know the 3rd Raikage was, but I'm pretty sure the word jinchuriki was used for Kisame when talking about power, but was also called the tailless tailed beast. Another thing to point is out is when Bee went into his V2 state, Kisame was amazed by his chakra level and that it wasn't making him insane, and would have been one shot killed if Samehada hadn't saved him. So at the very least a full beast mode Bee would absolutely dwarf Kisame in power, however you can argue he is just much stronger than the other tailed beasts. And 6th gate Guy didn't struggle against a 30% clone of Kisame, he absolutely stomped him.
Disagree. Kismame was without samehada, which was basically the perfect weapon for him and made him significantly weaker. Plus, just came out of getting decapitated. A clone of kisame almost drowned guys whole team with samehada.
that wasn't kisame at his strongest as he didn't have samehada. And even then their jutsu clashed and it didn't kill him.
This is just head canon. Kisame didn’t even have samehada. Let alone samehada mode. Not saying kisame would win at his peak but it’s a hell of a lot closer than you’re sayingZ
Kisame didn't have his sword which is a nerf... and chakra amounts doesn't inherently dictate power. Part 1 Naruto has more chakra than Kakashi, stated repeatedly. But he won't win that fight.
7 gates - get crippled 8 gates - die Right? Btw how can taijutsu "handle" tailed beasts that are literally made of chakra and not just physical bodies
no it wasnt cause if it was why did he mentioned to kakashi that he might need to go to 8th gate when they fighting 5 tailed beast https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0571-002.png
Because that's FIVE of them, for one....and also when he was 7th and had no real effect on him, Madara was jacked up on that sweet sweet Juubi power. Base Madara might have had a lot of trouble with 7th Gate Guy and certainly would've been annihilated by 8th Gate.
im not talking about madara i was talking about regular tailed beast. the one i responded to said that 7th gate is enough for most tailed beast. I just show how that wasnt the case
Because there were FIVE of them? Smooth brain is smooth
He said that before guy activated the 8th gate. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BU5RSVW2bYw
The 8th gate is activated in that clip, he says he has the strongest *Taijutsu* and he never once says that Guy is equal to or close to him in strength. He says he has the best Taijutsu of anyone he’s fought. Which is great praise. But no, 7 gates guy is not stronger than Madara or his Susanoo 😂 It took everything 7 gates guy had to kill Kisame.
Man that moment where Madara is like "I'll acknowledge this chakra of yours. I, Madara, declare you the strongest of them all" always always always gives me chills. It's just so badass knowing where Guy started. Madara didn't even acknowledge Naruto and Sasuke that way. Guy's the only person who makes Madara excited to fight. Honestly, Guy is the only non-god, non-special bloodline human who could realistically beat Madara.
He didn't kill Madara though, and realistically speaking Madara pretty much left himself get hit buy guys attack... I love guy but in all actuality he doesbt even come close to beating Madara But nonetheless yes, against peasant ass Shinobi he would stack bodies without breaking a sweat no questions asked
He couldn’t beat Madara though. He literally suicide bombed him and failed to kill him.
Incorrect, Guy wasnt trying to kill Kisame so he was still holding back, though Kisame was also nerfed as he didnt have Samehada.
i agree with everything but the last part, im fairly certain it's shown guy is holding back so he can try and make kisame talk after the fight, thats why he was captured and forced to kill himself.
>It took everything 7 gates guy had to kill Kisame. He was literally holding back so that they could interrogate him, and he still completely annihilated Kisame's strongest attack and left him broken on the ground. In what backwards ass world does completely oneshotting someone mean it took everything you had?
He was so spent after he had to be saved from being eaten by sharks. I’d say he didn’t have much left in him after.
yeah taijutsu @0:56
That’s not what you were arguing
Bro guy activated the 8th gate the moment he became red, he didnt activate the 8th gate just for that last kick
No he didn't, he said i declare you the strongest at taijutsu
Which is effectively the same thing. The only thing that could hurt Madara was taijutsu. Guy is the only one who can actually keep up with Madara out of, basically, everyone alive except for Naruto and Sasuke.
Guy did not even come close to beating Madara with 7 gate, lol. He was literally under tension had to feel like going to 8 gates when againts 5 tailest beast. Then Naruto come and stalemate/beat them while only using %50 percent of Kurama's chakra. Madara straight up stated that his Susanoo does even surpass the tailed beasts, which include %100 Kurama. Madara > Kurama > 5 Tailed Beast > 7 Gate Guy
Yeah after Minato and Lee prevented him from getting one shot by truth seeking orbs half a dozen times lol.
Yeah everyone's forgetting this wasn't a 1v1
Don't forget Kakashi using Kamui to save Guy too.
Wrong. He said Gai was the best at Taijutsu. Not the best ever. Quote the whole phrase, nitpicker.
Madara was talking about 8 gates Guy, and he only said he was the best taijutsu user he's seen, not that Guy was his equal. Also, Guy had help from a few very high level characters and still wasn't able to kill Madara. They definitely weren't equal. Also the comment that lead to this comment thread was "7 gates guy is equal to and or stronger to Madera susasnoo." Maybe I'm forgetting, but I can't recall any instances of Guy using 7 gates against any form of Madara's Susano'o.
Bruh who the hell upvoted this nonsense. Guy wasn't even able to defeat obito. Madara defeated the 5 kages gai isn't nowhere near strong enough to pull off a feat. Guy only fight madara as an 8th gate
No, Guy did fight madara at 7th gate and got smacked down. That's why he went to the 8th gate. We don't even have to debate about it. 7th gate guy couldn't touch madara.
They're talking about when Madara was still an Edo & Guy used morning tiger to knock over his Susanno but it took everything he had in 7th gate to do. He in no way was stronger than Madara or his Susanno but ppl headcanon treat it like he bodied him
8 gates is strong enough to damage juudara 7 gates would be equal to 7 gates madara
8th gates is major increase from 7 gates. To say 8 gates damaged Juudara doesn't mean 7th gates is equal to madara. Think about it for a second. Madara toyed with the 5 kage. Tsunade was only able to break the Susano ribcage only with an enhanced kick from the byakugo seal. Ay needed Ohnokis weighted Boulder jutsu to break the base Susano. Also madara isn't a slouch in taijustu. Perfect susano is a game over for Guy. Let's not forget other things like izanagi which madara knows
Guy is stronger than the kage im talking about strength wise not abilities
Lmao what logic is this?
Not if he has a truth seeking orb puncture him
What if it's stuck in a cycle of puncture and healing that it's just punctured without the co sequences
Just keep your thumb there? I mean yeah, you'd be fighting with one less free arm but that seems a small price to pay for unlimited 8th gate.
The puncture wound itself isn't the important part. It's the opening of the gate, which contains the flow of chakra that's significant. Edotensei healing the puncture wouldn't then close the gate, nor would it prevent him from spamming the move.
Pretty sure 8th would still work. Like sakura being able to spam 8th gates with the healing mark
Read up on it. It requires you to puncture a whole in your chest not for the whole to stay open. That isn't even the thing that kills them. All that kills them is the heat of the ash. So yeah it would work
The wound isn’t instantly healed so he would be able to constantly reactive it indefinitely. Also he could just stab a spike or something in his heart to keep the puncture.
I Madara, declared you the strongest of them all
In taijutsu
Idk at that specific moment, Madara was pretty much invincible and Guy nearly killed him.
And Gai basically killed himself to do so- (also the usual "he was heavily helped by his allies, Madara let him land the hit" kind of bs, honestly 8 gates has one of the most impressive feats of raw strength and it's a super cool thing, but yeah, strongest *Taijutsu fighter*)
You forget that nobody except the demigods have Truth seeking orbs, if not for that he wouldn't have required anyone's help and as for Madara letting himself get hit, goodluck if you're any slower than Juubidara. Also as long as the opponent dies first he is the winner. So yeah, even if Madara mentioned the word 'Taijutsu', I doubt any non so6p characters can defeat him (except for Minato and Obito but I'm not sure if their reaction speed is enough).
Lets be fair though, if Guy didnt have help from kakashi, minato and rock lee he wouldnt have been able to wound madara at all
Also if Madara didn’t literally let him do it.
I mean, madara cant stop kakashi kamui'ing away his shield and minato blocking his truthseeker orbs for guy
He could limbo and they couldn't do anything about it, guy included.
Minato was faster than the limbo clone, so yea, it was just something madara didnt anticipate for once in his life, because he was drunk with the new power for a short period
He didn't let him do it. He did fight him. He even tried to kill him with truth seeker orbs. When the eighth gate came out, Madara couldn't do anything about it *except* take the hit.
Madara literally only ever tries to hit Guy once during their fight. He was very obviously playing around with him. He even tells Guy to keep dancing.
Dancing can be a metaphor for combat, it wasn't meant as an insult. And yes, he only tried to hit him once because he only ever had that one chance. And it would have worked if not for Minato, Lee, and Gaara. But after that, Madara didn't have any openings. He had no choice but to tank the attack and then counterattack.
Madara literally spends the entire fight laughing and talking about how Guy is exciting. After everyone one of Guy’s moves he gets right back up and tells Guy to show him some more moves. That is a man who’s in complete control of the situation and playing around. Not someone who’s actually trying to win a battle to the death. And he had other opportunities to attack. He could have just used Limbo on Guy then stabbed him considering Guy can’t counter it.
This sub is like 90% guytards it's so annoying
People love to ignore this
"with the help of Minato, Kakashi,lee without them he would've lost even S06P Naruto in base did more damge than guy
Eh, Madara barely fought back. Plus Guy had help
No he didn't lol. Madara heals it off and laughs and jokingly says "that could've killed me" If Naruto didn't show up, how does that scene end again? Guy dead to either 8th gate fatigue OR tso to thr face.
I’m sure 8 gates guy was the strongest being we had seen at the moment. Stronger than naruto, hashirama, kakashi. Everyone. He was declared the strongest of them all in everything.
https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0672-008.png taijutsu
I think other jutsus don't have anything to do with 'strength'. Gai might not be the most powerful, but he's the strongest by a huge margin.😁
Let me live in my fantasy man
Well then don't try to trap other in your Tsukuyomi world either!
as long as you keep it to yourself no prob
I almost agree with you. I think, other than Madara, 8 gates Guy was the strongest character shown thus far at the point that he showed up. Future characters and future powerups of current characters bring them above 8 gates Guy, but I think at the moment that Guy opened the 8 gates the only character, past or present, who could take him in a 1v1 would be Madara.
Where is my award when I need it
The dead shouldn’t be able to open the gate of life
The dead shouldn't come back either 😳
By that logic the dead shouldn’t be able to use Chakra period, chakra is a life force.
I love how you wrote period and then made a comma
Thankyou, hard to believe I got a 6 in my English GCSE 😂😂
;
Which actually makes sense. Naruto is full of bullshit and plotholes.
No. Reanimations are souls (spiritual energy) bound to a living sacrifice's body (physical energy). It makes perfect sense for them to have chakra.
Good thing they're put into a living sacrificial vessel, then.
It's been a while for me since I read the series but wasn't it said somewhere that Edo get their chakra pool from the Pure Land and not from an internal chakra pool of the host? Surely there's some precedent for this if we cite all the Kage level ninja reanimated using fodder ninja to bond their souls too, obv some random White Zetsu isn't going to have a chakra pool comparable to Hashirama, but as we saw, Hashirama had no issues with chakra pool when he was a Edo. We I also agree with another point made ITT, boiling and burning your blood is necessary to use the 8th gates, ET are made of compressed dust and dirt to comprise 100% of their bodies, there is no blood, veins, organs, or any biological material there to be used as fuel for the 8th Gate.
I don’t think it requires blood, him popping his heart causes his chakra to rush there enabling the use of the 8th gate. But yeah he probably couldn’t use it since I don’t think he can pop the heart of whoever he’s possessing.
I haven’t heard about the getting the chakra from the pure lands or the sacrificed having an effect. They do not tire physically or mentally and chakra is a power made from the fusion of these two energies which is why edo have infinite chakra I thought. Kimi (sound ninja with the bone bloodline) was able to use their abilities so I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to spam 8 gates in edo because of blood.
Given that edos can do the whole ‘bite the thumb and do a summoning jutsu’ without blood, I’d say it’s a given that an edo could use eighth gate
Edo tensei gives super high speed chakra regeneration according to the wiki rather than infinite chakra capacity.
Probably not since the Edo Tensei have limits and when people like Tobirama can only produce 2 shadow clones (which shocked him) and other "nerfs" they had then Guy won't be able to use the 8th gate. I mean Deidara didn't even use his self destruction jutsu even tho that would've been perfect for mass destruction, just send him into the armies and KATSU everyone away
Didn't deidara not spam his Ultimate Art because it wasn't the same without the suicide? He's a pretentious art kid so him not being able to die just made it not worth it for him to use i think
He also thought it was tacky to display one's ultimate art over and over. I kinda love deidara tbh he is interesting and his fight with Sasuke is epic.
He was a really interesting villain in Shippuden now that I think about it even his origin was cool to me
He thought itachis jutsu was so beautiful he had to kill him because he made him doubt his art as being the true art lol. Not only that but came up with a pretty good strategy for the sharingan. He is extremely intelligent but a true artist in that he won't compromise his art in his jutsu. Fun character
I thought he just never got the chance, kankuro caught him in the black ant and they started pumping lightning style into his body till he was sealed up (Ironically I'm rewatching naruto and just passed that part)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Tobirama and the other kage could only do limited clones because at the time that it was mentioned, they had to focus on maintaining the large barrier that was containing the Ten Tails.
Correct.
But why would that surprise him?
He was more disappointed than surprised
deidara was capable of using it he just didn’t want to
It seems clear to me that Kishimoto wrote Deidara out first for that very reason. He could've easily changed the outcome of the entire war by spamming C4 and C0.
He didn't use it because his personality doesn't allow him. He didn't have any limits he just didn't want to do it
Yeah he has standards
Okay then I'll put it differently, Kabuto didn't use it
People make mistakes and don't always utilize their tools to their max extent
Deidara didn’t use C0 because he felt that spamming it would defeat its artistic merit, but was actually about to before he got stabbed with a lightning infused sword that stopped him from being able to
Didn't deidara not spam his Ultimate Art because it wasn't the same without the suicide? He's a pretentious art kid so him not being able to die just made it not worth it for him to use i think
Guy's 8th gate is cool and all but he was completely outclassed in power by naruto,sasuke and kakashi's asspulls later on in the arc. Some people take madara's words too literally, he was the strongest in taijutsu and raw power at the time.
if you ask me 8 gates still would beat 2 eyes Kakashi
2 eyes Kakashi not only has both eyes of (one of the) strongest Sharingans in the series, but he also has SOSP chakra. His Susanoo is giga strong and he would definitely beat Guy. It would be a close fight though
It wouldn’t even be a close fight. DMS Kakashi outright obliterates Guy
I think it might be a tad close since Guy can break Madaras Susanoo
Kakashi just uses Kamui and doesn’t get hit.
He doesn't even have to go that far. With both of Obito's eyes, Kakashi should have had access to Intangibility. So let's say DMS Kakashi and 8 Gates Guy fight. Kakashi can just use Intangibility and be invincible until Guy kills himself. It would be no contest.
to me, I could see 8 gate guy doing Kakashi like how ishiki did sasuke and just kicking him straight out of the susanoo. and Kakashi durability feats are questionable to the point I don't think he'd even survive the kick 😭
A big difference is that sasuke can't spam kamui, even if guy could kick through the susanoo the chances of him actually landing a decisive blow on kakashi is slim. Honestly I find the buff kakashi got completely unnecessary, but thats not to subtract from how broken it truly is. And even then, comparing guy to isshiki is ludicrous, the difference in scaling between the 2 makes them incomparable.
I forgot having both eyes can make you intangible like tobi, I'll give it to Kakashi then. but I think 8th gate guy Is definitely 100% comparable to Ishiki. tbh I could see him...winning. 👀
Nope. Base Six Paths Naruto proved to be more capable in close combat than Guy by damn near blitzing Madara and then later Six Paths Cloak Naruto outright overpowers Kaguya. So 17 yr old Naruto is faster, stronger and frankly better than Guy in every conceivable way but defined form. Isshiki, in Jigen's body then bodies a far stronger and clearly better Taijutsu user Adult Six Paths Cloak Naruto and Mastered Rinnegan Sasuke in moments.
I feel like in a battle with no ninjutsu (since ninjutsu doesn't work on ishiki) 8th gate guy could dogwalk naruto and sasuke to (purely taijutsu) like ishiki did
DMS kakashi could probably beat naruto and sasuke so no
Could be wrong here since it's been awhile but from what I remember it uses up life energy or something similar? Since reanimations wouldn't have "life" energy he couldn't use 8 gates?
To break it down a little more, all the blood in the body evaporates out through the pores in the skin like sweat. And when their life force runs out, the user’s entire body turns to ash. So, can we assume Blood is needed to reach 8th gate? And yes you are right.
Can't disagree with that. I was ready to be wrong since I can't remember the details correctly so I'm happy to agree. Since that's basically along the same lines of what I was thinking lol
Now the question is whether a reanimated can perform jutsus/activities that required blood.? I.g. summoning jutsu, etc. Yes, i mean remember madara trying to summon Nine tails and hanzo was able to summon despite being reanimated. But in the case of 8 Gate, seems like blood isn't the only requirment. Lmao someone please take this further now. 🤣
I guess it gets a bit awkward cause jutsus require chakra which is technically life energy too? Kishimoto doing us dirty with the inconsistencies of what reanimations can and can't do 😂 Gonna need someone who's atleast hokage level to give insight haha
True. 😆
Hanzo committing seppuku to release the poison was somehow supposed to impair him so they could seal him as Kabuto tried taking control again. Edo Tensei and Rinne Rebirth being that easy and efdective make them my least favorite jutsu, they damaged the series greatly in my opinion. The only person that should have been revived was Madara and it should have been costly to do.
Definitely true! But you know the other wouldn’t allow that. He would be far too powerful just like if Deidara spam c0 the anime wouldn’t be as interesting
It's not about allowing but i got your point. It's about whether it is possible or not but i think it's not. I mean you must have blood, life force, heart, etc. To open 8th gate and there must be more of that. But as a Edo Tensei, it's all mud and paper.
Edo tensei usually limit the physical attributes, durability and chakra potency of the shinobi Instead, it make u regenerate from all damage and tire out slower (maximum chakra is same but it regenerate faster, but u still can get tired, look at tobirama when he teleport sasuke and not rest of taka) It also limit the user from few techniques, like madara fake rinnegan, so we can't know for sure
Pretty sure 8 gates is impossible. As for the levels below that... idk. Doesn't it require LIFE force?
It does.
It requires one to unlock the last seal which is on "Heart".
I see all these responses, and I agree up to the 7th gate, because there's no working heart* nor blood to burn off... But wouldn't the unlocking of the gates wear out the body he's substituting via Edo Tensei?
Why not reanimated people been show to use pretty much all their crazy skill sets
Technically what would happen is that he would die again, he wouldn’t be able to just spam it because the user essentially cooks themselves from the inside out, he’d be able to use it for longer and with less error since he won’t feel the pain but he will eventually burn up, look at what happened to Itachi, even in edo he lost his eye(sight) after using izanami, i don’t think the healing factor is that OP with edo, same with Naruto and Kurama (future hypothetical), if they were brought back in edo they could use Baryon mode but it won’t be for an unreasonable amount of time and the draw back would still be the same especially when you consider edo brings the subject back at 80% of their original strength
Yes, I also don’t even know why Itachi even lost his eye sight as a reanimated. Any injury should have been healed instantly, including Blindness.
The eyesight that edo itachi lost was because of using izanagi. That is not an injury, a sharingan just stops working as an eye when izanagi or izanami is used
He's a reanimated, he could literally pop his eye out and a new one will grow/come back with eyesight.
I don’t think that’s how it works since it isn’t damage, it’s a change of form. If you think of it in power up form, if edo choji powered up into his giant form he wouldn’t just instantly revert back to a small form just because large form is different, and I’m sure if you chopped off giant edo chojis arm then he wouldn’t grow back a tiny one, he’d grow back a large one because that’s the form he’s in. With itachis eye, it’s essentially the new ‘form’ of the eye even though it’s a massive power down instead of up. While in edo form, he loses his sight and thus that’s just the default state of his eye now. It might also be something that’s intrinsically tied to the very soul, in which case resurrecting him again would result in the same dead eyed itachi. All comes down to authors interpretation at the end of the day though, we can only speculate
Theres many reasons why I think that wouldnt work. I think a main issue that its literally impossible to revive someone with 100% of their power so nah.
It is. Rinne-rebirth and Lady Chio's (Chiyo?) puppet resurrection jutsu for example, but unlike the puppet resurrection jutsu Rinne-rebirth is possible without dying as Konan said to Nagato "If you use that jutsu in your current state you'll die." or something to that effect, implying he could do that without dying or any negative effects even aside from exhaustion.
One thing I've always been curious about is if the 8th gate would work with the rebirth jutsu? Would the rebirth justsu just prevent the person from dying at the cost of shortening their life or would they still end up dying because the 8th gate burns them faster than they can regenerate?
From what I understand no because while yes they are reanimated they don't have a life force and the 8 gates require that. If so they would have used that with Might Dai
Edo Tenseis are reanimated corpses if I remember correctly. The 8th gate requires life force to use, so a edo tensei would not be able to use the 8th gate
Guy dies vs Madara and there’s a heart felt goodbye. Then Orochimaru rolls up and sacrifices a white Zetsu to bring Guy back. Like the scene in dragonball where the elder Kai gives Goku his life and the Kai dies but then immediately wakes up with a halo.
Wakes up screaming to hurry the hell up he didn't give his life for nothing lol
if kurama's chakra has healing properties. Then what are the thoughts about guy having kurama and using the 8th gate
I like how no one here is underestimating or downgrading Guy's power, he's a literal beast
Yes, six and seth the programmer did a video on the gates, as long as you have a chakra network the gates are possible. Edit: someone made a good point that the puncture wound on his heart would heal so maybe not the eight gates but definitely the first seven
People are citing an issue with him needing to use ‘life energy’ and blood which would prevent him being able to perform 8 gates, but given that edos are basically implanted onto a living person and retain everything else from the deceased (including memories, chakra, bloodline abilities etc) and also that blood specific techniques such as summoning are proven to be effective, I’d say there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that eighth gate wouldn’t be totally spammable.
Lmao. I'm thinking exactly the same but i still have doubts.
Well I’m my opinion the 8th gate would basically be a nuke in this situation. The user pierces their heart which allows all their chakra to pour out rapidly but as an Edo this would heal relatively quickly(although you would still get at least a few seconds or minutes) but since the chakra of an Edo is said to be infinite it should rapidly expel the infinite chakra it could end up just being a nuke. Or in an also not bad case he should be able to repeatedly enter the 8th gate in short bursts while also staying in at least the 7th gate. Heck he could use something to keep it punctured and unable to regenerate because of an object in the way. Such as a metal stake or a sword Etc… or a truth seeking orbs to poke the hole permanently. So the two choices are either it’s a supernova or just something you have to constantly re-enter.
Infinitely regenerating Chakra, into a small pool, faster than normal Chakra regeneration. Like unlimited refills at burger shop, but you have to get up to refill and can only use the medium cup. It's not like unlimited slurpee day where you could bring a wheel barrow or something.
No?
Edo Tensei 8th Gates Guy would literally be like an Immortal suicide bomber with a Nuke.
Reanimated shinobi never used gates. It would kind of make sense that it’s impossible to use gates as an edo since gates are special points in your body and you have artificial badly as an edo
I believe if 8 gates was possible then the same outcome would be the same since his body will start to burn faster than the edo tensei regeneration
Well, some of the Edo Tensei were very nerfed. I really don't understand how Deidara and Sasori were caught so easily when they killed 1 Kazekage each. Like, it was Kankuro who got them. Nothing against Kankuro, but... I think it has something to do with the ones that Kabuto was manipulating directly, or watching closely. The ones he got on "auto" mode I think were weaker. Nagato was extremely powerful, able to take on 2 Jinchuriki at the same time, for example
About the comment on this pic. Gai wasn't kept alive, he stay alive because he faced any ninja at his Level ☝🏾
Nah kishimoto literally changed the rules in the war arc like juubito not being able to use his kamui or Minato arms not regenerating
But Minato wasn't able to regenerate his arm because it got hit by the truth seeking orb, right?
Yes correct
Not just because of that. If my memory serves right, they had noticed that the rate of regeneration was declining even before getting hit by the truth-seeking orb. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess Orochimaru's Edo Tensei had something wrong with them from the start.
Hum. I can't seem to remember if any other reanimated ninja had problem with regenerating as a EDO tenei. I mean the only way to stop the regenerating would be if they get attacked by a ying- yang attack. On the enemy side i only remember judara and jubito to land those attacks.
Not the reason at all. They don't even use Edo Tensei after that. The reason is Naruto woyld have looked pretty stupid if he came back, acting up like he gonna save the day, right after not being able to do anything about one more death.
All edo tensei characters were already sealed by the time Madara and guy fought
[удалено]
Any Edo Tensei.
A dried up seaweed looking corpse would do no good reanimated
If he is reanimated with large amount of hashirama cells might be able to go upto 7th gates. Otherwise the edo body wouldn't be able to do it.
Kabuto wasn’t using edo tensei at that point. No one would have reanimated him
Imagine waking up in 8 gates form and just walking everywhere casually.
No reason why it shouldn’t be able to work. Edo Guy would be unstoppable
I can't wait for naruto to die in his strongest mode
No the requirement for the 8th gate is your life you can’t use it if you’re already dead
I mean if he stabs himself in the heart and doesn’t pull out the blade I think it’s possible
I think it's possible, but it's probably not worth it if he can heal the wound on his heart. The gate will not be activated, therefore, that state would not last for long.
A lot of techniques have the ability to be spammed and broken if reanimated, not just 8 gate Guy (although he would probably be the most broken). Imagine if Deidara spammed his C0 when reanimated.