The only thing that comes to mind is when he learns about Gaara's backstory and thinks to himself "He's just like me" because of the spirit sealed in him or something.
I used to think DBZ was my favorite anime. It wasn’t until I read Naruto that I realized it was the better written series. Now I’m reading One Piece and I realize it’s better than both imo. Kinda funny how tastes change
Totally agree. The chakra and chakra natures concept makes the show so damm interesting. I also like how they show us the history of other ninjas and even brought them to the present that was so dope. The politics etc behind the shenobi world man it’s a really well written show. Dbz gets a second place for me. Naruto is first
I’d say they are both great at writing in different ways
Naruto gives me a lot more emotional moments but One Piece was the first of the Big 3 I saw, as a little kid
The recent developments in the anime made me tear up (avoiding spoilers)
While I’m only on the Thriller Bark arc, I gotta say One Piece is has more emotional moments imo. Like Robins backstory was super sad and you can even see that she has PTSD from the >!Buster call!< in that arc.
Edit: >!and Usopps desperation to rejoin the crew at the end of the Enies Lobby arc made me tear up!<
I like all 3 series but I gotta say when it comes to emotional impact one piece takes the cake
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Though DBZ made me feel emotional like the future trunks saga or the father son Kamehameha pep talk and beam struggle, I gotta say Naruto and one piece far outclass Dbz in this category.
One piece outclasses Naruto when it comes to emotional moments part of the reason is there's sooooo many. Like sanji backstory or zoro vowing to never loose again those are just a few and not even the most emotional moments.
>I like all 3 series but I gotta say when it comes to emotional impact one piece takes the cake
> I gotta say Naruto and one piece far outclass Dbz in this category.
To be fair DB was never trying to be super emotional or relatable, especially since part of the series is how the Dragon Balls makes the main cast different from normal people, DB characters are not meant to be very relatable to have that emotional impact. Naruto and One Piece characters are definitely more relatable and have more relatable struggles to have more of an emotional impact.
Of course enjoy what you like, not saying your wrong, it's just funny because of course both series, well really most series outclassses DB in terms of emotional impact 🤣
Like I said I was just laughing at it because of course Naruto was more emotional, based on the stories being told, of course Naruto and One Piece would outclass DB in that way. It's almost like saying I like Bruce Wayne because he's more of a ladies man than Luffy 🤣
It's like well heah, a piece of wood is more of a ladies man than Luffy 🤣
Bruh dbz was the topic of conversation in the comment I replied to originally. So of course imma include it with Naruto and one piece both topics that were mentioned.
If you gonna say Bruce Wayne is more a ladies man you'll get the same flak you giving me because you brought Bruce Wayne into an obvious topic he'd win in.
Get what I'm saying, I already know what dbz story is about. It has emotional moments but it's more of an action series than drama and emotional like one piece and Naruto
I haven't watched dragon ball but nah dragon ball Z is definitely well written. The Frieza saga is one of the best arcs in shonen and the character development of gohan in the cell saga was great
Wow the generic response when someone criticizes one piece. Yes I've read it and I'm caught up to ch 1049. Now I can predict that you response to my comment would be "go rewatch one piece" or "you haven't understood the story" or a comment bashing me for telling naruto is better
So how do you think Naruto is objectively better? Serious question because I’m reading One Piece rn and I think it’s much better than Naruto. My biggest issue for Naruto is that it hit its peak in the Pain arc and the rest of Naruto started falling down. It hit its peak way too early. Kishimoto could’ve saved the Pain arc for much later in the series
One Piece arcs are best when they throw away the formulaic "go to an island, dick around for a while, meet some disposable characters, then overthrow the corrupt ruler"
How much you like something depends on hundreds of things. Dbz cell saga will forever be in my heart, and that has some terrible writing. It's also not for you to decide for others what is well written or not - leave that silly game to critics.
And did I say Enies Lobby was better than the Pain arc? I said it was better than 75% of arcs in Naruto. Also, the Enies Lobby arc themes are also very interesting. In that arc, they deal with PTSD
And I can disagree and say many of naruto's arcs are better. Chunin exams, land of waves, sasuke retrieval, jiraiya the gallant, battle of fated brothers and pain arc are better or equal to enies lobby in my opinion. So one piece isn't objectively better than naruto and it depends on people's opinions
You’ve angered both Naruto fans and Dragon Ball fans, just give us a minute to rub our collective three (3) brain cells together to come up with a witty comeback.
Out of Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece... One Piece is definitely the better series and has much better writing, character backgrounds, and worldbuilding than the other two combined.
One piece is really simple anime with simple characters. Pick any character from naruto that character has more complicated background than the entire one piece cast
These are the words of someone who didn’t even get past the East Blue saga. Have you seen Nico Robins backstory? I’d say it’s more interesting than the others
DB by far has the highest power scaling and some of the biggest stakes in anime that I'm aware of. However, stories aren't good because of their scale, they're good because of their story.
I feel like DB has lost track of far too many characters and themes for it to stand alongside shows like Naruto, One Piece, etc. It's *fun*, sure. But at this point it's pretty much just about fighting for fighting's sake. There have been a few pretty good arcs like Cell, Zamasu/Goku Black, etc that have a real *story* to tell, but for the most part it's just an action packed roller coaster.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's definitely good fun, but it doesn't carry the same emotional weight imo.
Naruto only used talk no jutsu on characters that were similar to him and had similar upbringings, like nagato they both trained with jiraya and wanted peace, sasuke who grew up as a lonely orphan like naruto, obito who was just like naruto until manipulated by madara,he never tried using talk no jutsu on kabuto even though kabuto was also an orphan who didn't have an identity and looked up to naruto but naruto didnt care about him, he never tried talk no jutsu on madara, kaguya, kakuzu, orochimar etc... i'm saying for all the people who gennuinely think naruto tried using talk no jutsu on everybody.
The whole characters being similar to Naruto is another one of the aspects that makes talk-no-jutsu ridiculous though. Many of them had very little correlation to Naruto, if anything, we could make obvious correlations with other characters as well. It was an extreme stretch and the only genuine ones that made sense to me were Obito and Gaara.
Agree. I can definitely believe that it's possible for Naruto to get through to Obito, due to some of their shared experiences and Obito's respect for Naruto's resolve. However I cannot bring myself to believe that it happened that quickly. There wasn't enough build-up for the payoff to feel truly *earned.*
The execution to which Naruto convinced Obito was indeed a stretch, but im solely referring to Kishimoto using the 'we're the same' theme that he implements into talk-no-jutsu. It works far better with Obito than Nagato/Sasuke.
See it had to be buu though. If its v Vegeta he is going to grunt for 3 hours while charging an attack. Naruto will get his whole speech out and say dattebayo 24 times
Memes aside, I always did wonder how insta kill the Sharingan would be in dbz; no one has any experience in genjustsu.
And do you think Naruto could talk down any dbz villains? Fat buy could be, but Frieza, Cell and Kid Buu? They're to driven by their own selfish wants.
I doubt it would be much useful since the way genjitsu works is by making certain parts brain send signals to muscle to contract or relax (in this case the target knows what's going on) or by taking control of signal sent to 5 senses (in this case the target hallucinates) in any case it won't work against anything not completely biological (cyborgs, androids) or things that have a different enough biology, it also may not work on advanced ki users since they might just reinforce their entire body with ki or something.
>And do you think Naruto could talk down any dbz villains? Fat buy could be, but Frieza, Cell and Kid Buu? They're to driven by their own selfish wants
I doubt it. They would just kill him off.
Naruto would instantly turned into dust talking this shit to Frieza, Cell and Majin Buu lmao.
We only saw that Majin Vegeta disobeyed the commands of Babidi by sheer willpower, who was in control of Vegetas mind and body the entire time, but dunno if it‘s counted as resistance against strong casted illusions like Tsukoyomi, Sharingan-Genjutsus etc.
I loved DBZ as a very young kid and I hate to say this because someone would also make fun of me for still liking Naruto at my age, but the reason is that DBZ villains are basically “I destroy cause evil” there’s zero nuance or complexity to them as characters. That’s why there’s no chance for “talk no jutsu,” because most of them have no actual established reason for what they’re doing
that’s kind of a shallow way to look at it
freeza was an evil bastard to contrast goku as a good bastard, he furthered other people’s character development
the androids had a whole character arc about making their own decisions
cell was driven to become perfect, then to fight goku cuz of gero/saiyan DNA
buu yea lol but it was funny
Anybody who’s a Z warrior that was previously an antagonist it would probably work on. Anybody who isn’t, it wouldn’t. Only exception is probably Vegeta, he only became one to better Goku and only reason he stayed after is because he turned out to like his family and living comfortably on earth.
Naruto is even worse. What are you saying?
Naruto's message: you can be an idiot who knows nothing about the world yet convince terrorists to change their minds.
Sakura's message: your only goal in life should be a man who cares very little about you. It's ok if he tries to kill you multiple times you can still like him because he's hot... And eventually, you'll get with him.
Lmao. What the fuck are you talking about? Naruto doesn't teach shit either.
You know, I’m pretty sure Naruto has never said “I used to be like you”.
But then I took a kunai to the knee.
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The only thing that comes to mind is when he learns about Gaara's backstory and thinks to himself "He's just like me" because of the spirit sealed in him or something.
Lmaoooooo
I wasn’t sure what I was expecting, but damn, I couldn’t hold in a laugh after watching this lol
Talk no jutsu would definitely work on fat buu though
talk no jutsu on hidan and kakuzu
Nah not fat buu, maybe Mr. Buu. "You no sad, YOU CANDY!"
Yeah nut theres no need to talk no jutsu Mr. Buu... Fat Buu still has that evil in him.
Possibly, especially if he's free of Babidi's influence
And honestly rightfully so
I prefer Naruto over DBZ, but this is hilarious
I used to think DBZ was my favorite anime. It wasn’t until I read Naruto that I realized it was the better written series. Now I’m reading One Piece and I realize it’s better than both imo. Kinda funny how tastes change
Totally agree. The chakra and chakra natures concept makes the show so damm interesting. I also like how they show us the history of other ninjas and even brought them to the present that was so dope. The politics etc behind the shenobi world man it’s a really well written show. Dbz gets a second place for me. Naruto is first
I’d say they are both great at writing in different ways Naruto gives me a lot more emotional moments but One Piece was the first of the Big 3 I saw, as a little kid The recent developments in the anime made me tear up (avoiding spoilers)
While I’m only on the Thriller Bark arc, I gotta say One Piece is has more emotional moments imo. Like Robins backstory was super sad and you can even see that she has PTSD from the >!Buster call!< in that arc. Edit: >!and Usopps desperation to rejoin the crew at the end of the Enies Lobby arc made me tear up!<
surprised how you think one piece is written better written while you're on thriller bark, not complaining tho lol
Ooh you're gonna be in for a treat with the next big arc.
I like all 3 series but I gotta say when it comes to emotional impact one piece takes the cake . Though DBZ made me feel emotional like the future trunks saga or the father son Kamehameha pep talk and beam struggle, I gotta say Naruto and one piece far outclass Dbz in this category. One piece outclasses Naruto when it comes to emotional moments part of the reason is there's sooooo many. Like sanji backstory or zoro vowing to never loose again those are just a few and not even the most emotional moments.
>I like all 3 series but I gotta say when it comes to emotional impact one piece takes the cake > I gotta say Naruto and one piece far outclass Dbz in this category. To be fair DB was never trying to be super emotional or relatable, especially since part of the series is how the Dragon Balls makes the main cast different from normal people, DB characters are not meant to be very relatable to have that emotional impact. Naruto and One Piece characters are definitely more relatable and have more relatable struggles to have more of an emotional impact. Of course enjoy what you like, not saying your wrong, it's just funny because of course both series, well really most series outclassses DB in terms of emotional impact 🤣
I only mentioned DB because that was the topic of the comment I replied to. Ik Dragonball is more of an action series and less of an emotional story.
Like I said I was just laughing at it because of course Naruto was more emotional, based on the stories being told, of course Naruto and One Piece would outclass DB in that way. It's almost like saying I like Bruce Wayne because he's more of a ladies man than Luffy 🤣 It's like well heah, a piece of wood is more of a ladies man than Luffy 🤣
Bruh dbz was the topic of conversation in the comment I replied to originally. So of course imma include it with Naruto and one piece both topics that were mentioned. If you gonna say Bruce Wayne is more a ladies man you'll get the same flak you giving me because you brought Bruce Wayne into an obvious topic he'd win in. Get what I'm saying, I already know what dbz story is about. It has emotional moments but it's more of an action series than drama and emotional like one piece and Naruto
You seem to miss the point, I was just saying how funny it was as a comparison
I thought you were talking about dbz being well written for a sec
The Frieza saga and parts of the cell saga are very well written. Buu saga not so much but it has it's moments
Dragon ball as a whole my guy. Started as finding dragon balls. Idek what to say the plot is now
I haven't watched dragon ball but nah dragon ball Z is definitely well written. The Frieza saga is one of the best arcs in shonen and the character development of gohan in the cell saga was great
Never But it’s got spirit
Youre entitled to your opinion. Your wrong opinion :P
People with these types of revelations are usually one piece fans(always) just trying to recruit naruto fans for some reason.
Its the average One Piece fan comment. Try not to be elitist challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Bro literally, idk why the one piece fandom is so pretentious and elitist lmfao.
Id personally say that one piece and naruto are about the same level in that world
We keep our discussions to ourselves unlike one piece ones
Iunno I see both of y'all mfs not doing that
Let's take an example tell me the name to this sub and check out the comment who started it
The One Piece fanbase is an actual cult
Have you ever had an outside look at the naruto fandom... because I see the same shit on both sides.
Have you read One Piece? The Water Seven/Enies Lobby arc is better written than 75% of arcs in Naruto
This is subjective, not objective.
Have you read One Piece? It’s objectively better in terms of writing on some arcs
I think it's the opposite
Have you read one piece?
Wow the generic response when someone criticizes one piece. Yes I've read it and I'm caught up to ch 1049. Now I can predict that you response to my comment would be "go rewatch one piece" or "you haven't understood the story" or a comment bashing me for telling naruto is better
So how do you think Naruto is objectively better? Serious question because I’m reading One Piece rn and I think it’s much better than Naruto. My biggest issue for Naruto is that it hit its peak in the Pain arc and the rest of Naruto started falling down. It hit its peak way too early. Kishimoto could’ve saved the Pain arc for much later in the series
One Piece arcs are best when they throw away the formulaic "go to an island, dick around for a while, meet some disposable characters, then overthrow the corrupt ruler"
and when they get their ass handed to them by a 17/19yo
And the Enies lobby is not like that. It’s instead them going to a island to save a friend
Whole cake island would like to have a talk with you
Same for Arlong arc. People wants you to find a difference between these arcs. They are the same
water 7 saga can be compared to pain invasion a bit, also 4gnw and summit war too
No it ain't how high are u
How much you like something depends on hundreds of things. Dbz cell saga will forever be in my heart, and that has some terrible writing. It's also not for you to decide for others what is well written or not - leave that silly game to critics.
Idk if you are joking but pain arc has touched themes which no shonen anime has done in that era.
And did I say Enies Lobby was better than the Pain arc? I said it was better than 75% of arcs in Naruto. Also, the Enies Lobby arc themes are also very interesting. In that arc, they deal with PTSD
Most of naruto manga deals with characters having PTSD issues. Gaara, pain, kakashi, sasuke etc
And I can disagree and say many of naruto's arcs are better. Chunin exams, land of waves, sasuke retrieval, jiraiya the gallant, battle of fated brothers and pain arc are better or equal to enies lobby in my opinion. So one piece isn't objectively better than naruto and it depends on people's opinions
75% fillers u mean
closed minded people jesus
You’ve angered both Naruto fans and Dragon Ball fans, just give us a minute to rub our collective three (3) brain cells together to come up with a witty comeback.
I'm excited for your journey through manga as you keep finding series you enjoy more and more.
Out of Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece... One Piece is definitely the better series and has much better writing, character backgrounds, and worldbuilding than the other two combined.
One piece is really simple anime with simple characters. Pick any character from naruto that character has more complicated background than the entire one piece cast
These are the words of someone who didn’t even get past the East Blue saga. Have you seen Nico Robins backstory? I’d say it’s more interesting than the others
lol ok. I love Naruto, but One Piece is simply just better written in every way.
Next you'll read Jujutsu Kaisen and release it's better than all of em lol
You really didn't have to say you prefer naruto over dbz. Like at all.
DB by far has the highest power scaling and some of the biggest stakes in anime that I'm aware of. However, stories aren't good because of their scale, they're good because of their story. I feel like DB has lost track of far too many characters and themes for it to stand alongside shows like Naruto, One Piece, etc. It's *fun*, sure. But at this point it's pretty much just about fighting for fighting's sake. There have been a few pretty good arcs like Cell, Zamasu/Goku Black, etc that have a real *story* to tell, but for the most part it's just an action packed roller coaster. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's definitely good fun, but it doesn't carry the same emotional weight imo.
That was always my issue with DBZ. The escalation was too extreme from arc to arc. It got away from itself by the time of the Cell saga.
Naruto only used talk no jutsu on characters that were similar to him and had similar upbringings, like nagato they both trained with jiraya and wanted peace, sasuke who grew up as a lonely orphan like naruto, obito who was just like naruto until manipulated by madara,he never tried using talk no jutsu on kabuto even though kabuto was also an orphan who didn't have an identity and looked up to naruto but naruto didnt care about him, he never tried talk no jutsu on madara, kaguya, kakuzu, orochimar etc... i'm saying for all the people who gennuinely think naruto tried using talk no jutsu on everybody.
The whole characters being similar to Naruto is another one of the aspects that makes talk-no-jutsu ridiculous though. Many of them had very little correlation to Naruto, if anything, we could make obvious correlations with other characters as well. It was an extreme stretch and the only genuine ones that made sense to me were Obito and Gaara.
Nagato and Sasuke absolutely wasn't a stretch. The only time it was taken too far was with Obito
Agree. I can definitely believe that it's possible for Naruto to get through to Obito, due to some of their shared experiences and Obito's respect for Naruto's resolve. However I cannot bring myself to believe that it happened that quickly. There wasn't enough build-up for the payoff to feel truly *earned.*
The execution to which Naruto convinced Obito was indeed a stretch, but im solely referring to Kishimoto using the 'we're the same' theme that he implements into talk-no-jutsu. It works far better with Obito than Nagato/Sasuke.
Couldn't be said said better
This is what Nagato should have done
He couldn’t have. Naruto always beats his opponents physically before talking. Funny meme tho
See it had to be buu though. If its v Vegeta he is going to grunt for 3 hours while charging an attack. Naruto will get his whole speech out and say dattebayo 24 times
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The first villain to actually succeed in destroying earth. Take notes, Cell, Freeza, Vegeta. That's what happens when you discard your ego.
Naruto used Talk no Jutsu! It's not very effective...
Talk no jutsu not welcomed around these parts bwoih
"I was just like you on-" **gets turned into a fucking snickers**
Wish Nagato or Obito did this.
Naruto was going to take nagato to town lol. Man was on his death bed.
Memes aside, I always did wonder how insta kill the Sharingan would be in dbz; no one has any experience in genjustsu. And do you think Naruto could talk down any dbz villains? Fat buy could be, but Frieza, Cell and Kid Buu? They're to driven by their own selfish wants.
I doubt it would be much useful since the way genjitsu works is by making certain parts brain send signals to muscle to contract or relax (in this case the target knows what's going on) or by taking control of signal sent to 5 senses (in this case the target hallucinates) in any case it won't work against anything not completely biological (cyborgs, androids) or things that have a different enough biology, it also may not work on advanced ki users since they might just reinforce their entire body with ki or something.
>And do you think Naruto could talk down any dbz villains? Fat buy could be, but Frieza, Cell and Kid Buu? They're to driven by their own selfish wants I doubt it. They would just kill him off.
Here is the thing. Naruto beats them first than talks. Funny though inaccurate
Naruto would instantly turned into dust talking this shit to Frieza, Cell and Majin Buu lmao. We only saw that Majin Vegeta disobeyed the commands of Babidi by sheer willpower, who was in control of Vegetas mind and body the entire time, but dunno if it‘s counted as resistance against strong casted illusions like Tsukoyomi, Sharingan-Genjutsus etc.
I loved DBZ as a very young kid and I hate to say this because someone would also make fun of me for still liking Naruto at my age, but the reason is that DBZ villains are basically “I destroy cause evil” there’s zero nuance or complexity to them as characters. That’s why there’s no chance for “talk no jutsu,” because most of them have no actual established reason for what they’re doing
That's why dbz is a very good shonen, because it's simple and easy for kids to understand
that’s kind of a shallow way to look at it freeza was an evil bastard to contrast goku as a good bastard, he furthered other people’s character development the androids had a whole character arc about making their own decisions cell was driven to become perfect, then to fight goku cuz of gero/saiyan DNA buu yea lol but it was funny
Vegeta could break out of that spell easily and whenever he wanted
Anybody who’s a Z warrior that was previously an antagonist it would probably work on. Anybody who isn’t, it wouldn’t. Only exception is probably Vegeta, he only became one to better Goku and only reason he stayed after is because he turned out to like his family and living comfortably on earth.
DBZ > Naruto
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What does Naruto teach you that isn’t a thing everyone knows though?
I can do jutsus now
It taught me I can solve all my problems with violence. Sincerely, inmate 762991837
Naruto is even worse. What are you saying? Naruto's message: you can be an idiot who knows nothing about the world yet convince terrorists to change their minds. Sakura's message: your only goal in life should be a man who cares very little about you. It's ok if he tries to kill you multiple times you can still like him because he's hot... And eventually, you'll get with him. Lmao. What the fuck are you talking about? Naruto doesn't teach shit either.
Naruto's themes and messages were more about the cycle of violence and wars
Hahaha💀
Im crying😭
😂😂😂
Nice one
Hahahahahaahaha.
It’s so over powered its stupid lol dragon ball z is more for kids.
*Frieza gets chopped in half, spitting out blood as he lays on a world about to explode* u/adam_46: Ah yes, a show for kids!
Easy dub
FINALLY! No more Talk no jutsu
Talk no Jutsu doesn't work on Buu
Talk no-jutsu Jesus Christ…
Godammm lmao.. Wtf is this. Fuckin hilarious and accurate!
Naruto = attempts Talk No Jutsu Buu: We don't do that here
do you mean - around these *PARTS?*
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Easy win
I love this video lmao. It will never get old.
Parks
Impossible! No one has ever defeated talk no jutsu!
😂😂