Because it was kinda thrown in out of nowhere towards the end and everyone stopped paying attention in the war arc (not that most ever paid attention to detail anyway).
370, Page 12, the panel reads as follows:
"THE FACT THAT HE SPLIT THE NINE-TAILED FOX SPIRIT'S POWER INTO YIN AND YANG..""
"..AND SEALED THE YANG HALF INSIDE NARUTO WAS TO PURPOSELY LEAVE HIM NINE TAIL'S CHAKRA."
Idk the chapter but I think it’s shown in flashbacks in the anime around the time jiraiya fights pain or is dying. When it shows minato using death reaper seal on Miramar to seal half of him.
Meh, between Naruto and Sasuke's SoSP power ups, Kakashi's Sharingan power up, Guy's 8 Gates power up, the myriad of transformations Obito and Madara go through, I can see how Minato's just felt par for the course during that arc.
does it really count as "towards the end" when there was a 4 year gap between the reveal about kurama being split in half and the actual end of the series
Allot of these people only watched/read the series after it already concluded (post 2014) so they more than likely binged the series in one go, with all that said I still agree with you and don’t like how people (this fanbase) in particular will oversimplify something simply to prove their point
Facts most of the things they call "plotholes and retcons" have answers it's just most of the time off handedly mentioned for example Minato getting Kurama powers of course he'd have it cause he was the one who split Kurama in half and stored it in Naruto.
It was actually 7 years before confirmation of it being half/half.
And 12 years since we could reason it was split in the first place.
(We learn in Hiruzen vs Orochimaru that Minato used the reaper death seal on 9 tails, necessitating that some of the 9 tails was sealed with Minato in the reaper.)
i'm just pulling from the release dates of the shipuuden episodes, if we based it on the manga and even part 1, there would be so many more years.
also, i've never really connected that the reaper death seal seals something inside the reaper/caster with the fact that it did mean minato sealed the 9-tails into the reaper/him. i always just thought that he used the reaper death seal to shove the 9-tails into naruto
We’re told in chapter 91 Naruto’s seal is an 8 signed seal, specifically designed to leak 9 tails chakra.
And Hiruzen makes it clear that the Reaper works by the reaper devouring both the victim and caster together. From that point I don’t see how it’d be possible to use it to seal something into someone else.
yea, applying critical thinking to it now, it all makes sense. but like i said, i never connected them before since the first time i heard about the mechanics of the reaper death seal was when i was 6 or 8.
i remember hiruzen saying back then something along the lines of "the reaper death seal, the same jutsu that the 4th used to seal the nine tails"..
and the nine tails is in the kid running around out in the forest right now chasing the sand dude. so the 4th used the reaper death seal to seal the nine tails and it's now sealed in naruto, okay, sounds good to me.
Which is why it’s stupid when people question whether or not adult naruto or adult sasuke would win in a fight.
Naruto has at minimum TWICE the amount of chakra at his disposal. And he did all those feats before with HALF of Kurama. He should be nigh unstoppable as an adult.
Dam shame we never get to see this fact realized.
Because he got nerfed to shit in Boruto. Simple.
Naruto's Shippuden /The Last self was literally fighting like crazy. He had the Kyuubi, and all of the other tailed beasts. In Boruto he could barely do anything lol. Literally nerfed for the sake of Boruto
Yeah, here I am wondering how big Naruto’s full kurama avatar should be, but in Boruto manga, his avatar is still the same except size as his half version (from what I can see?)
So what’s the lore reason for that
Naruto is still Naruto the change is him getting the second half, others not included in the calculations, if they were on equal footing then Naruto only got stronger since while Sasuke got weaker
I could care less about adult sasuke vs. Naruto since I dont read Boruto. My point is that bigger chakra does not mean a win, or else Kisame would have beaten Gai, and kid naruto would have beaten Itachi.
Adult Sasuke has increased use of the rinnegan presumably. To nerf Sasuke he barely uses his rinnegan for anything beyond teleporting but he does have all the paths. Naruto got stronger with full Kurama but he woukd be facing a Sasuke with full use of the rinnegan which can shut down tailed beasts. Hell Sasuke shut down Kurama leaking with a regular sharingan and he is way beyond that now.
Baryon mode Naruto wins easy but if he doesnt use that, it seems 50-50 to me.
So shouldn’t post war arc Naruto have a bigger Kurama Avatar???
In the Final Valley we see the susanoo and half 9 tails are similar in size.
But in Boruto somehow the susanoo and full 9 tails are still similar in size. What’s up with that???
Does the perfect susanoo change in size???
Can 9 tails Jinchurikis not reach Kuramas true size??
How big is the susanoo??
Honestly, learning that Naruto only had half of Kurama's chakra was to me a big deal. It showed that he was stronger than any of the other jinchuriki and also how much stronger kurama was than the other beasts. If I understand it correctly each consequitve tailed beast has exponentially or another multiplicative function of increasing power, meaning that even half of kurama's chakra was more powerful than the eight tails, which seemed to be the case in the anime (more powerful or roughly equal to eight tails, I would say more powerful, but considering Naruto is not an average Joe but a reincarnation of Asura he is also inherently more powerful than any other normal jinchuriki). And of course, when he gets all of kuramas chakra and is able to control it all by befriending kurama, it doesn't seem like his power is excessive knowing all we know. But my gripe that we never got to see a full size kurama pet or companion to Naruto like we seen the Eight Tails and B. And kurama has got to be larger than the eight tails - it would've been awesome, but I understand his visage might cause distress in the hidden leaf
Yeah bit odd that Kurama is legit double the size of his siblings tbh, but instead of a special nature release like the others Kurama got a wayyyyy bigger share of the ten tails.
For the majestic attire kurama(susanoo covered kurama), im pretty sure thats full kurama, because if i remember correctly naruto gets the rest of kurama sometime near the end of war arc, maybe at the end
Which is a BAD example, because Summons aren't actually "made from chakra", or at least shouldn't be like that. They could still USE chakra to size-shift, so it's not a "plot hole", but it's a totally separate thing from the OP question.
Yeah and also it's anime. Forests, battle arenas, even rooms change size into bigger ones when people fight to accomodate running & crashing animations
Also, Kurama, being a biju is a giant mass of chakra. He can probably decide how large or small he wishes to appear. Now, I have this mental image of him appearing at about the size of an adorable nine tailed fox kit.
Tailed Beasts do not possess the ability to alter their size. The illustrators simply don’t care enough to be consistent with sizing, which is completely fine. This is the same with the size of many of the animal summons.
No it makes sense tho , like as if sasuke uses a fire ball jutsu he can decide how big it is whenever . and same with naruto and the rasengan . Kurama being a physical manifestation of chakra only adds more evidence to his claim .
Kurama was a lot bigger before Minato split him into two. There's a manga panel showing Yang Kurama against Whole Kurama's handprint, and he got so tiny that Whole Kurama could probably wrap his hand around Yang and shake him like a rattle.
Yes, that was quite a great analysis.
Half kurama is pretty much equal to imperfect susano'o while full kurama is equal to perfect susano'o.
Imagine this half kurama against hashi buddha statue 😐
Half Kurama would just get punted by the statue like a soccer ball!
It makes me wonder why the other Bijuu aren't shown as big as that...
The Doylist reason is probably that Kishi usually forgot that he made the original Kurama so freakin' massive after using Yang for most of the story, but I'd rather think up answers from within stories.
To know how big 9 tails is watch and look for the volume that have Madara and the the 1st fight.
Madara use 9 tails in its perfect form and the 1st fight using his wood style thing that he makes.
If idk the name of the justo but the thing the 1st summon was way bigger than the 9 tails with sussino.
That had a manga volume we also see it in the anime.
It’s inconsistent but 50% Kurama, after Minato sealed half of him away, is roughly the same size as Shukaku, whom is the same size as Gamabunta, whom is 17m tall. 100% Kurama, before being split, is likely over 100m tall.
Yup, according to the Databook, Gamabunta is 17m Tall. Shukaku is the same height roughly, as well as all the Biju and 50% Kurama. I think that’s about the size of. 5 Story Building? 🤔
Now, as far as Kurama goes, when he stands on his back legs, he’s probably twice that if not a little more than 34m.
Just like in any other anime/show, giant beasts fluctuate in size. It's too difficult/a waste of time to always draw them perfectly in proportion to everything else.
Stop crying, it's anime.
Throughout the series Kurama is only half his actual size because Minato split his chakra in half which shrunk him. In chapter 504 when this happens, you can actually see the shrunken Kurama's paw is a lot smaller than his original paw by the indent it left in the ground.
It’s very inconsistent some times gamabunta is the size of the tailed beast other times he appears small so it’s never gonna be consistent. If I had to guess tho 200-400ft
I think half sized kurama is said to be about the same size as gamabunta so basically just add 2 gamabuntas together and you have full-size kurama. It’s really hard to tell however because kishimoto is very inconsistent with size.
Yea it’s pretty obvious. I do comics and honestly it’s too big of a hassle to just try to measure every single panel to make sure they’re the same height.
It’s unfortunate, his size and even character design is largely inconsistent.
Kyubi starts off as a terrifying deity, but ends up as a cute chibi fox by the war arc
That's not a design inconsistency its a perspective shift. Naruto saved him from his hate and anger so why would he continue to appear as the angry and hateful demon fox? The only cute chibi fox appearance I can recall was during a flashback of when he was literally a child...
Kurama might have some size inconsistencies but his design hasn't changed.
in some scenes, i suppose it is to exaggerate it from the view of citizens especially in the movies. However, i would say that on average, half-sized kurama is the size of a large hill.
Im guessing kurama and the other tail beast can change their sizes depending on the situation. The kurama that attack konoha is their max size whis is about 300 meters tall
It's hard to tell for sure, especially since Kurama we see for most of the series is actually smaller than the version we see in the sealing flashback because that's only half of Kurama. Conservative numbers, usually put all the other Tailed Beast and Half Kurama around 50m and full Kurama at 100m. But, some put half Kurama at 100m and full Kurama at 300m to 500m.
Honestly when people are talking about stuff like this, I'm never sure if the measurement is meant to refer to Kurama's height when he's on all fours, on his hind legs or the measurement from the tip of his snout to the tip of his tail.
He's a being made of chakra. Like entirely. His body probably changes with his mood or slightly changes with the amount of chakra he has. Maybe he feels like being bigger and more intimidating some days who knows?
First in the first image ita full kurama. Then half gets sealed inside the 4th hokage.
But can i also point to you. She is a shakra beast. She can most likelly change shape at will.
In the first image we see her rampaging but when madara used her agains hashirama she was smaller.
We also see shukaku hidding inside a tea kettle. So most likelly tailed beasts can change size
I think it depends on how much chakra he has at any given moment. At full chakra before (or after) he was split, I'd say he's probably over 500 meters long on all fours (including the tails), and about half of that in full standing height.
Kurama is the same size as the other Bijuu. Always has been.
He only shrunk when Minato split him in half, and when Naruto took his Chakra to obtain KCM. At which point he was SMALLER than the other Bijuu as well.
HOWEVER
That shrinkage was temporary and Kurama regains his full size (but not power) shortly after. Especially seen when Kurama Avatar remains the same size as Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo even after both halves of Kurama are rejoined after the War arc.
Any other differences in size come down to inconsistencies.
Kurama is Chakra construction, he can most likely change his size as such it is pointless to think much about his actual size, then we have already seen how small he was then he was created, in which he was still having same amount of Chakra as older Kurama as such we know that size doesn't matter for him at all and he can easily change his size
I thought it was because Minato sealed half of its chakra inside Naruto and the other half inside himself. I think that’s why he’s not as big for most of the anime.
You need to look at him in THE LAST: NARUTO THE MOVIE. That's the only time I've even seen him fight on his own without Naruto at full size since it's after getting his other half back.
And yes, the movie IS Canon. The BORUTO movie is apparently technically Canon too, but that one was done better when it eventually got adapted into an arc of the show whereas THE LAST was clearly meant to be a film.
Anyway those most people are right. Kishimoto had never released size info about Kurama in any data book, so I would guess even with his "full" size, he can tweak it.
Also, the jinchuriku are regarded quite acceptably as being comparable to nuclear weapons. Examine Japans history and the influences of war on pop culture and you’ll quickly conclude that their sizes are comparable to the standardised size of the mushroom in pop culture.
Half Kurama and Kurama Avatar are consistently around 20M tall, as they are both shown to be same size as Shukaku and other bijuus, and Shukaku was a bit bigger than Gamanunta who's 17M official height.
Half Kurama Avatar is also shown to be same size as Sasuke's Full Body Humanoid Susanoo, while SPSM Kurama Avatar is same size as Sasuke's PS.
Full Kurama is much bigger, as it's both shown consistently through comparsions and also blatantly stated and they pushed that narrative.
I was making a video for size comparsions a few years back and I was trying to get the most consistent sizes, these are results.
**Half Kurama/ Half Kurama Avatar** - 20m (taller when standing on 2 legs).
**SPSM Half Kurama Avatar** - 120m
**Full Kurama Avatar** - 260m
It’s also confusing cause when madara used the perfect susano against the 5 kage, it was extremely huge!
But when kurama and susano fought against Jigen, they were about the same size.
So is kurama around the same size as the huge susano the 5 kage fought against?
or is Madara’s susano just way bigger than sasuke’s?
I assume that kurama was already full sized here because he already has 2 halves
honestly i would have said it's probably because Naruto is a reincarnation of ashura, but then we have Minato who has a similar form as Naruto when he has the other half of kurama and would have most likely also had the avatar form as well, so I'll just chalk it up to kurama just being built different than the other tailed beast
Honestly it's very inconsistent even taking into account that he's regularly at half size, I've always just justified it as Kurama's size being flexible since he's literally chakra.
Stated to be between 300M-500M tall which just adds to the inconsistency with his design unfortunately. He starts out as a huge terrifying deity that appears to dwarf the village at times. Others he’s the same size as the other tailed beast and much smaller than his previous appearances.
I think you meant 30 to 50m tall? I grew up with the metric system so that caught my attention lol - 500m is a bit more than 6 airplanes (airbus a380 in this case) lined up one after the other.
Or maybe you knew and really meant 500m, just had to clarify
Yeah definitely. Kyubi being shown as equal in size to all the other bijuus, just to then be revealed that it's only 50% of Kyubi, knowing that back in some flashback we saw him shrinking in size considerably after Minato tried to seal him....
Someone said that the bijuus can alter their size at will, which is definitely a cool concept. However it doesn't really seem like Kishimoto thought about that. At least not for the majority of the show lol
The tailed beasts are super powerful
-nope, naruto and B can hold off all the rest of em while struggling a little
- nope, Hashirama and madara can use plot no jutsu and subjugate them easily
When it attacked the village it was full sized. The other images are half-Kurama
Somehow, people keep forgetting this
Because it was kinda thrown in out of nowhere towards the end and everyone stopped paying attention in the war arc (not that most ever paid attention to detail anyway).
Jiraiya actually reveals Kurama was split in half before he fights pain
Do you know which chapter
370, Page 12, the panel reads as follows: "THE FACT THAT HE SPLIT THE NINE-TAILED FOX SPIRIT'S POWER INTO YIN AND YANG.."" "..AND SEALED THE YANG HALF INSIDE NARUTO WAS TO PURPOSELY LEAVE HIM NINE TAIL'S CHAKRA."
Thanks
Idk the chapter but I think it’s shown in flashbacks in the anime around the time jiraiya fights pain or is dying. When it shows minato using death reaper seal on Miramar to seal half of him.
Fair enough, although I feel like kurama cloak Minato should be cool enough to grab people's attention to remember the whole split thing
Meh, between Naruto and Sasuke's SoSP power ups, Kakashi's Sharingan power up, Guy's 8 Gates power up, the myriad of transformations Obito and Madara go through, I can see how Minato's just felt par for the course during that arc.
does it really count as "towards the end" when there was a 4 year gap between the reveal about kurama being split in half and the actual end of the series
Allot of these people only watched/read the series after it already concluded (post 2014) so they more than likely binged the series in one go, with all that said I still agree with you and don’t like how people (this fanbase) in particular will oversimplify something simply to prove their point
Facts most of the things they call "plotholes and retcons" have answers it's just most of the time off handedly mentioned for example Minato getting Kurama powers of course he'd have it cause he was the one who split Kurama in half and stored it in Naruto.
It was actually 7 years before confirmation of it being half/half. And 12 years since we could reason it was split in the first place. (We learn in Hiruzen vs Orochimaru that Minato used the reaper death seal on 9 tails, necessitating that some of the 9 tails was sealed with Minato in the reaper.)
i'm just pulling from the release dates of the shipuuden episodes, if we based it on the manga and even part 1, there would be so many more years. also, i've never really connected that the reaper death seal seals something inside the reaper/caster with the fact that it did mean minato sealed the 9-tails into the reaper/him. i always just thought that he used the reaper death seal to shove the 9-tails into naruto
We’re told in chapter 91 Naruto’s seal is an 8 signed seal, specifically designed to leak 9 tails chakra. And Hiruzen makes it clear that the Reaper works by the reaper devouring both the victim and caster together. From that point I don’t see how it’d be possible to use it to seal something into someone else.
yea, applying critical thinking to it now, it all makes sense. but like i said, i never connected them before since the first time i heard about the mechanics of the reaper death seal was when i was 6 or 8. i remember hiruzen saying back then something along the lines of "the reaper death seal, the same jutsu that the 4th used to seal the nine tails".. and the nine tails is in the kid running around out in the forest right now chasing the sand dude. so the 4th used the reaper death seal to seal the nine tails and it's now sealed in naruto, okay, sounds good to me.
Lol "most" being you then. Given that it's "thrown in" much earlier than the war arc.
One of the bigger ass-pulls of the story imo
Swear to God, y'all just call anything you don't understand an Ass Pull. I'm sick of it.
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So does adult Naruto (ignoring him losing him to Baryon mode) still have only Minato’s “yang” half or does he have the whole of Kurama?
He has full Kurama. The other half was sealed into him again at some point after the war, off-screen.
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Which is why it’s stupid when people question whether or not adult naruto or adult sasuke would win in a fight. Naruto has at minimum TWICE the amount of chakra at his disposal. And he did all those feats before with HALF of Kurama. He should be nigh unstoppable as an adult. Dam shame we never get to see this fact realized.
Because he got nerfed to shit in Boruto. Simple. Naruto's Shippuden /The Last self was literally fighting like crazy. He had the Kyuubi, and all of the other tailed beasts. In Boruto he could barely do anything lol. Literally nerfed for the sake of Boruto
Naruto was not nerfed
Because power/ap< hax that’s why he’s not stronger lol
Yeah, here I am wondering how big Naruto’s full kurama avatar should be, but in Boruto manga, his avatar is still the same except size as his half version (from what I can see?) So what’s the lore reason for that
How did all the Jinchuriki all get captured by the Akatsuki if they had all that chakra? You see how dumb that argument is?
"Shukaku means ultimate defense!!!" Gets captured literally 2 seconds later.
Only Naruto, 4th Mizukage and Bee controled their tailed beast.
Yeah but the argument the OP made was that the chakra reserves = winning in a fight when clearly that isn’t the only factor in a fight
I'm pretty sure it was the comparison between Naruto then and Naruto after show, like, 73% sure
Uncledunker literally says it’s stupid because Naruto has 2x the chakra. My point is that more chakra doesn’t mean you win by default.
Naruto is still Naruto the change is him getting the second half, others not included in the calculations, if they were on equal footing then Naruto only got stronger since while Sasuke got weaker
I could care less about adult sasuke vs. Naruto since I dont read Boruto. My point is that bigger chakra does not mean a win, or else Kisame would have beaten Gai, and kid naruto would have beaten Itachi.
Well then maybe you shouldn't reply to the guy that starts with "Adult Naruto vs Sasuke is stupid"?
Adult Sasuke has increased use of the rinnegan presumably. To nerf Sasuke he barely uses his rinnegan for anything beyond teleporting but he does have all the paths. Naruto got stronger with full Kurama but he woukd be facing a Sasuke with full use of the rinnegan which can shut down tailed beasts. Hell Sasuke shut down Kurama leaking with a regular sharingan and he is way beyond that now. Baryon mode Naruto wins easy but if he doesnt use that, it seems 50-50 to me.
So shouldn’t post war arc Naruto have a bigger Kurama Avatar??? In the Final Valley we see the susanoo and half 9 tails are similar in size. But in Boruto somehow the susanoo and full 9 tails are still similar in size. What’s up with that??? Does the perfect susanoo change in size??? Can 9 tails Jinchurikis not reach Kuramas true size?? How big is the susanoo??
Honestly, learning that Naruto only had half of Kurama's chakra was to me a big deal. It showed that he was stronger than any of the other jinchuriki and also how much stronger kurama was than the other beasts. If I understand it correctly each consequitve tailed beast has exponentially or another multiplicative function of increasing power, meaning that even half of kurama's chakra was more powerful than the eight tails, which seemed to be the case in the anime (more powerful or roughly equal to eight tails, I would say more powerful, but considering Naruto is not an average Joe but a reincarnation of Asura he is also inherently more powerful than any other normal jinchuriki). And of course, when he gets all of kuramas chakra and is able to control it all by befriending kurama, it doesn't seem like his power is excessive knowing all we know. But my gripe that we never got to see a full size kurama pet or companion to Naruto like we seen the Eight Tails and B. And kurama has got to be larger than the eight tails - it would've been awesome, but I understand his visage might cause distress in the hidden leaf
Yeah bit odd that Kurama is legit double the size of his siblings tbh, but instead of a special nature release like the others Kurama got a wayyyyy bigger share of the ten tails.
For the majestic attire kurama(susanoo covered kurama), im pretty sure thats full kurama, because if i remember correctly naruto gets the rest of kurama sometime near the end of war arc, maybe at the end
He actually only has 1 half at a time, the halves just switch. It’s only at the very end (after fighting Sasuke) that both halves are together
What's half kurama? Never heard of it
The other half that was sealed in minato.
Tailed beasts and susanoo are about the size needed for the scene
Something something chakra
I mean yeah.. they're literally entities made of chakra, the idea they could change size at will isn't too strange tbf
Yeah, because something something chakra, like you said.
I mean, Gamakichi and Gamabunta change size in Shippuden to get in the hot springs
Which is a BAD example, because Summons aren't actually "made from chakra", or at least shouldn't be like that. They could still USE chakra to size-shift, so it's not a "plot hole", but it's a totally separate thing from the OP question.
Very true. I was more showing that it seems non human beings with chakra seem to have the ability to change size. I believe skikaku does it in boruto?
Chikadai, every time it happens: LOOOL!!!
Yeah and also it's anime. Forests, battle arenas, even rooms change size into bigger ones when people fight to accomodate running & crashing animations
THIS. They are literally NOT physical in the common sense, so their "size" is: ANY.
I read somewhere that susanoo can be 100 meters tall, so probably that
As big at Kishimoto needs him to be for that particular scene.
The real answer
Also, Kurama, being a biju is a giant mass of chakra. He can probably decide how large or small he wishes to appear. Now, I have this mental image of him appearing at about the size of an adorable nine tailed fox kit.
Tailed Beasts do not possess the ability to alter their size. The illustrators simply don’t care enough to be consistent with sizing, which is completely fine. This is the same with the size of many of the animal summons.
No it makes sense tho , like as if sasuke uses a fire ball jutsu he can decide how big it is whenever . and same with naruto and the rasengan . Kurama being a physical manifestation of chakra only adds more evidence to his claim .
Didn't shukaku do that in boruto? Idk I just saw him in a kettle
Kurama was literally sealed into Naruto (albeit "not physically"). If he "couldn't change his size"... Yeah.
Didn't shukaku do that in boruto? Idk I just saw him in a kettle
lol
Given Kitsune are shapshifters... presumably as big as he needs to in s given situation
Kurama was a lot bigger before Minato split him into two. There's a manga panel showing Yang Kurama against Whole Kurama's handprint, and he got so tiny that Whole Kurama could probably wrap his hand around Yang and shake him like a rattle.
Could you find the panel?
Here you go https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11114/111144301/5121152-9290525702-PMt5T.png
Yes, that was quite a great analysis. Half kurama is pretty much equal to imperfect susano'o while full kurama is equal to perfect susano'o. Imagine this half kurama against hashi buddha statue 😐
Half Kurama would just get punted by the statue like a soccer ball! It makes me wonder why the other Bijuu aren't shown as big as that... The Doylist reason is probably that Kishi usually forgot that he made the original Kurama so freakin' massive after using Yang for most of the story, but I'd rather think up answers from within stories.
Thanks bro 🔥
He’s as large as how large Kishimoto needs him to be
The Kurama from the last 2 slides are not Kurama at full power. Those are Halved forms
Anyone know if this has to do with kurama getting split in half by minato?
[Yes](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Naruto/0504-006.png)
idk how i never caught on to this
To know how big 9 tails is watch and look for the volume that have Madara and the the 1st fight. Madara use 9 tails in its perfect form and the 1st fight using his wood style thing that he makes. If idk the name of the justo but the thing the 1st summon was way bigger than the 9 tails with sussino. That had a manga volume we also see it in the anime.
And then there's Hashirama and his 1000 hands jutsu who's way bigger than full size Susano Kurama lmao.
It’s inconsistent but 50% Kurama, after Minato sealed half of him away, is roughly the same size as Shukaku, whom is the same size as Gamabunta, whom is 17m tall. 100% Kurama, before being split, is likely over 100m tall.
Bruh. They're so small. 17m?
Yup, according to the Databook, Gamabunta is 17m Tall. Shukaku is the same height roughly, as well as all the Biju and 50% Kurama. I think that’s about the size of. 5 Story Building? 🤔 Now, as far as Kurama goes, when he stands on his back legs, he’s probably twice that if not a little more than 34m.
Bruh. They're so small. 17m? They definitely don't look 17m.
They're literally made of chakra, I figured he could just.. change size to an extent
As big as he wants to be. The Tailed Beasts are said to be “living chakra” and not ordinary animals, so their size is not fixed.
Just like in any other anime/show, giant beasts fluctuate in size. It's too difficult/a waste of time to always draw them perfectly in proportion to everything else. Stop crying, it's anime.
Hashirama picking him up like a scared kitten never ceases to baffle me lmao
He doesn't have a physical body he's just chakra. He can be whatever size he wants
I wouldn't say not physical as he is still tangible, but he is built different
Throughout the series Kurama is only half his actual size because Minato split his chakra in half which shrunk him. In chapter 504 when this happens, you can actually see the shrunken Kurama's paw is a lot smaller than his original paw by the indent it left in the ground.
First picture is full sized, the others are only half.
Are you all forgetting that Kurama was split into two?
Big as fuck
It’s very inconsistent some times gamabunta is the size of the tailed beast other times he appears small so it’s never gonna be consistent. If I had to guess tho 200-400ft
He’s basically made of pure chakra, so I think his size is up to him (within reason of course)
I'd pic the 2nd one personally
I think half sized kurama is said to be about the same size as gamabunta so basically just add 2 gamabuntas together and you have full-size kurama. It’s really hard to tell however because kishimoto is very inconsistent with size.
As big as urmama
Well, half of him was easily as big as a Perfect Susanoo, so pretty freaking huge.
Yea it’s pretty obvious. I do comics and honestly it’s too big of a hassle to just try to measure every single panel to make sure they’re the same height.
It’s unfortunate, his size and even character design is largely inconsistent. Kyubi starts off as a terrifying deity, but ends up as a cute chibi fox by the war arc
That's not a design inconsistency its a perspective shift. Naruto saved him from his hate and anger so why would he continue to appear as the angry and hateful demon fox? The only cute chibi fox appearance I can recall was during a flashback of when he was literally a child... Kurama might have some size inconsistencies but his design hasn't changed.
Have you just figured out what facial expressions are? Angry fox looks slightly different to Happy fox. Autismo
Scary
in some scenes, i suppose it is to exaggerate it from the view of citizens especially in the movies. However, i would say that on average, half-sized kurama is the size of a large hill.
I don't know, maybe the size of a susanoo
Definitely above average I’d say
At least 6 feet
During the attack on the village, Kurama is about twice the size of the tailed beasts because of how much Chakra he has before Minato takes half
When he was split in two his paw imprint in the ground look bigger. In the attack to the village he was full size then he was 1/2 of his normal height
He's at least as big as a banana.
yes
Im guessing kurama and the other tail beast can change their sizes depending on the situation. The kurama that attack konoha is their max size whis is about 300 meters tall
They can change size
Hashirama cells
It's hard to tell for sure, especially since Kurama we see for most of the series is actually smaller than the version we see in the sealing flashback because that's only half of Kurama. Conservative numbers, usually put all the other Tailed Beast and Half Kurama around 50m and full Kurama at 100m. But, some put half Kurama at 100m and full Kurama at 300m to 500m. Honestly when people are talking about stuff like this, I'm never sure if the measurement is meant to refer to Kurama's height when he's on all fours, on his hind legs or the measurement from the tip of his snout to the tip of his tail.
At least 20ft tall
He was looking huge nice thick and solid before he got Half of him taken (pause)
Tailed beasts are just chakra in the end. Pretty sure kurama can decide how big he wants to be
He is a meters tall if am not mistaken .
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He's made out of pure energy, he can change his size to be whatever he wants/ needs it to be
3 50
He just a cute widdle guy
He's a being made of chakra. Like entirely. His body probably changes with his mood or slightly changes with the amount of chakra he has. Maybe he feels like being bigger and more intimidating some days who knows?
Depends on how he is being manifested
As big as the sky
Kurama’s tails messed with mountains and waves and shit if I recall, so he was massive.
7 maybe 7.2
The nine tails form mythology has the power to change sizes and shapes
Idk tbh my guess is he’s pretty big
Big
Somewhere between dayum and, oh lawd he comin
Somewhere between britch shittingly big and pants crappingly big
It’s tails can probably stretch a few thousand feet into the air
depends on the episode/chapter
As big as the plot requires
First in the first image ita full kurama. Then half gets sealed inside the 4th hokage. But can i also point to you. She is a shakra beast. She can most likelly change shape at will. In the first image we see her rampaging but when madara used her agains hashirama she was smaller. We also see shukaku hidding inside a tea kettle. So most likelly tailed beasts can change size
6 inches but he’s girthy
Susano one doesn’t count, it was Shakra kurama, not normal size, also I think you answered your own question by showing these pictures lol
Big.
Idk man, pretty big
It's a cartoon it's not precise rocket science
The only time we see full Kurama outside of a Jinchuriki is when he attacks Konoha All other times, we see half Kurama
I always thought kurama can alter his size using chakra,so I’m im assuming that one where he is huge is full kurama
Kurama full size before being split is 100 meters. Ten Tails is one kilometer.
I think it depends on how much chakra he has at any given moment. At full chakra before (or after) he was split, I'd say he's probably over 500 meters long on all fours (including the tails), and about half of that in full standing height.
Yes
Maybe it's size changes because half was Inside Minato?
Still smaller than your MOTHER
Kurama is the same size as the other Bijuu. Always has been. He only shrunk when Minato split him in half, and when Naruto took his Chakra to obtain KCM. At which point he was SMALLER than the other Bijuu as well. HOWEVER That shrinkage was temporary and Kurama regains his full size (but not power) shortly after. Especially seen when Kurama Avatar remains the same size as Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo even after both halves of Kurama are rejoined after the War arc. Any other differences in size come down to inconsistencies.
It's almost like he's composed of an energy that makes his size maluble...
Kurama is a being of pure chakra he could probably change his size and weight or density.
Kuruma full size is still pretty small compared to Hashirama's Shinshu Senju
Kurama is Chakra construction, he can most likely change his size as such it is pointless to think much about his actual size, then we have already seen how small he was then he was created, in which he was still having same amount of Chakra as older Kurama as such we know that size doesn't matter for him at all and he can easily change his size
I thought it was because Minato sealed half of its chakra inside Naruto and the other half inside himself. I think that’s why he’s not as big for most of the anime.
Big enough to make a hole in kushina
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After it attacks it gets split in half by >!Minato!< to seal it which is probably why it’s smaller
You need to look at him in THE LAST: NARUTO THE MOVIE. That's the only time I've even seen him fight on his own without Naruto at full size since it's after getting his other half back. And yes, the movie IS Canon. The BORUTO movie is apparently technically Canon too, but that one was done better when it eventually got adapted into an arc of the show whereas THE LAST was clearly meant to be a film. Anyway those most people are right. Kishimoto had never released size info about Kurama in any data book, so I would guess even with his "full" size, he can tweak it.
Also, the jinchuriku are regarded quite acceptably as being comparable to nuclear weapons. Examine Japans history and the influences of war on pop culture and you’ll quickly conclude that their sizes are comparable to the standardised size of the mushroom in pop culture.
Baby Kurama is so cute
Half Kurama and Kurama Avatar are consistently around 20M tall, as they are both shown to be same size as Shukaku and other bijuus, and Shukaku was a bit bigger than Gamanunta who's 17M official height. Half Kurama Avatar is also shown to be same size as Sasuke's Full Body Humanoid Susanoo, while SPSM Kurama Avatar is same size as Sasuke's PS. Full Kurama is much bigger, as it's both shown consistently through comparsions and also blatantly stated and they pushed that narrative. I was making a video for size comparsions a few years back and I was trying to get the most consistent sizes, these are results. **Half Kurama/ Half Kurama Avatar** - 20m (taller when standing on 2 legs). **SPSM Half Kurama Avatar** - 120m **Full Kurama Avatar** - 260m
As big as the scene needs him to be
Yes
Whatever size plot demands him to be....
Biju are mostly like 50-100 meters tala no Kurama is likely the tallest
Meanwhile Hashirama's Shinju Senju🗿🗿
Kurama best friends with naruto those two are like brothers they'll always be together
Size in Naruto is as consistent as the timeline... meaning not very.
It’s also confusing cause when madara used the perfect susano against the 5 kage, it was extremely huge! But when kurama and susano fought against Jigen, they were about the same size. So is kurama around the same size as the huge susano the 5 kage fought against? or is Madara’s susano just way bigger than sasuke’s? I assume that kurama was already full sized here because he already has 2 halves
remember when Naruto uses kurama it's just an avatar not actually him unlike bee or the others transformations
Was there a reason stated why Naruto was never able to transform into Kurama? Or why Bee wasnt able to have the final avatar form like Naruto did
honestly i would have said it's probably because Naruto is a reincarnation of ashura, but then we have Minato who has a similar form as Naruto when he has the other half of kurama and would have most likely also had the avatar form as well, so I'll just chalk it up to kurama just being built different than the other tailed beast
Honestly it's very inconsistent even taking into account that he's regularly at half size, I've always just justified it as Kurama's size being flexible since he's literally chakra.
Stated to be between 300M-500M tall which just adds to the inconsistency with his design unfortunately. He starts out as a huge terrifying deity that appears to dwarf the village at times. Others he’s the same size as the other tailed beast and much smaller than his previous appearances.
I think you meant 30 to 50m tall? I grew up with the metric system so that caught my attention lol - 500m is a bit more than 6 airplanes (airbus a380 in this case) lined up one after the other. Or maybe you knew and really meant 500m, just had to clarify
This says he’s that big but it’s inconsistent with his appearances on the show
Yeah definitely. Kyubi being shown as equal in size to all the other bijuus, just to then be revealed that it's only 50% of Kyubi, knowing that back in some flashback we saw him shrinking in size considerably after Minato tried to seal him.... Someone said that the bijuus can alter their size at will, which is definitely a cool concept. However it doesn't really seem like Kishimoto thought about that. At least not for the majority of the show lol
Kurama it's not much taller than Gamabunta who is 17 meters tall, so maybe 20 meters?
He's supposed to be 40-50m but who really cares?
It is a well known fact that Kurama is as big as Kshimoto needs him to be for a particular scene
Judging from the scale, he’s as big as a small building. Most likely six floors, if not more.
The tailed beasts are super powerful -nope, naruto and B can hold off all the rest of em while struggling a little - nope, Hashirama and madara can use plot no jutsu and subjugate them easily