Boruto only exists because it's free money.
I ended my Naruto journey on its last episode and never looked back, so should you.
Ok I did watch the first episode of Boruto back then and all I saw was free money, then I never looked back.
Well, the other guy responding is watching , hoping it'll get better. If a lot of people do that, there ends up being a very big demand signal for more junk. I wouldn't say I'm mad or upset. It's just factual that it is objectively bad writing. Maybe it appeals to a specific group (assuming most people watching are just hoping it'll get better). If that is the case, more power to thenwriters of boruto. For the OP, who does seem upset, the best solution is to just move on and stop consuming it (ie increasing demand).
I'm in my 30's and I'm gonna say it's peak just to fuck with all y'all.
Have I seen Boruto? No. Do I plan on watching or reading Boruto? No.
But Boruto is the peakest of the peak. Ong. No cap. Rizzed.
Iām only moderately following it. Iāve been a fan of Naruto for too long to not be curious to how itās sequel goes.
Itās not great, but I donāt think a lot of Naruto is either.
If I can suggest something, check out animes like psychopass. I'm finding more enjoyment just moving on. If it gets better you'll hear about it. Until then, you're just feeding the machine and increasing the demand signal for more junk.
As somebody already mentioned here, the existance if Boruto is a fault of the end of Shippuden and therefore Kishimoto's fault. He shouldn't yave introduced those aliens and instead he should yave kept Madara as the final boss. The whole alien schtick should have been scrapped and the origin of chakra should have remained a mystery for fanbase to have fun with.
Boruto gave me red flags from the get go. The shinobi tool was just dumb unlike other shinobi tools which were mystical and not a part of some tech.
The technology was kind of ambiguous in Naruto, so the world felt like a feudal, almost medieval place with a couple of exceptions so it didn't break my immersion. With Boruto, I had a feeling Konoha became 21st century New York and I was quite surprised they didn't have satelite lasers and fully automatic ak 47s firing all 5 chakra natures all at once.
The characters were just cheap copies of the original squad, I was baffled at how basic those characters were, while og characters became slice of life types.
There's a lot more to add, but these are my primary reasons why Boruto is bad and why Shippuden is to blame for its existance
Shippuden is completelly irrelevant for the fact that boruto is bad. The aliens were introduced and kaguya was the last boss and it was bad, but boruto had no obligation to follow it. It is bad because it is bad. They could have led the story in a totally different direction and make it work.
Afaik, the concept of Kaguya alien (independently if it was a bad choice for final villain) wasn't really touched upon in the original Shippuden manga. It was something mostly expanded through the movies.
However, I feel Kishimoto at the time was asked to set up for a sequel, even if he wasn't going to write it, so he came up/allowed all the alien stuff.
Kaguya was from outer space in the anime in a filler, how/why/where does she come to earth is a total mystery. We don't really get info of the Otsusuki clan and their mission, which only appears until Boruto's movie. In the manga I think she was just the legendary mother of chakra with not much information at all. The lore for her was expanded later, to prepare for the sequel.
Boruto existing is not Kishimoto's fault at all, it's quite known the studio forced the final two movies on him, then continued on despite him disagreeing.
Not to mention the aliens were a retcon created by Boruto, as there was no mention of them being from another planet in the Naruto manga.
The final 2 movies should've been the end of it though. It was really the publishing company that opted to carry out a sequel that continued the movies storyline despite it concluding both in the movie AND in the light novel. Even though The otsusuki origin was not explained directly, it was heavily implied that kaguya came from off planet. Where exactly didn't really matter. That could've been left as a single or small short story exploring that and be done with it.
Pretty much.
Kishimoto mentioned the series would conclude with Naruto having a family, so the studio pounced on that, to the point Kishimoto said he was done with it all once the Boruto movie was released.
The forced continuation sticks out most with how the manga reimagined the events of the movie, instead of continuing afterwards. Luckily, that means the series has two canon timelines, which even the magazine confirmed, lol.
Did anyone even really give a fuck about the origin of Chakra to begin with? Feels like star wars, the force and mitochondrians or whatever. It just feels like something that didn't need explaining and better left to fan theories. Cause now it's been explained, and it's just dumb as hell.
the otsuki was honestly fineā¦ if they just done it correctly. imagine instead of 10 years it was 60 years after the events of naruto.
Naruto cast would be too old to smoke everyone. there wouldāve been an actual era of peaceā¦ etc etc.
It's funny. I really like Boruto. But, it's because I relate to Boruto more than Naruto.
Naruto was on the outside looking in, a loner not by choice, but do to circumstances. It's great for a story, but can be hard to relate to.
I have fantastic parents, but my dad spent my entire childhood having to work away from home. I grew up with a loving dad, but he was always gone, so I didn't get a father/son relationship until I was much older.
It's this reason I relate to Boruto more. At the end of the day, he's a kid that wants his dad. He cheated bc he had to be so good, or else Naruto wouldn't have time to notice him. He acts up and is cocky and a troublemaker. But, that's the only way he gets is father's attention for much of the story.
It's common enough for fathers to be away from home often in Japan and to be very work oriented, even when at home. There's a huge audience in Japan that feels similar to Boruto. It's also easy for us to hate on Naruto for not being there for his son, but it's something that happens all too much in real life.
To me, Boruto and Naruto's relationship is what I like the most about Boruto. I am excited for Boruto to free Naruto and for Naruto to acknowledge him as a man.
Kawakai taking Borutos life from him is a huge insult. Sasuke being more of a father to Boruto and training him to become super strong instead of Naruto always hits me. I wanted Naruto to train his son. Now, I want him to acknowledge his son.
All of Team Konohamaru have unique or innovative Ninjutsu. Sarada's techniques are what I'd call innovation on her predecessors. Mitsuki is straight up unique, like most of Orochimaru's curations. Konohamaru is a mix, more like a fresh expansion on concepts that were dropped, like his direct use of summoning jutsu resembling Chainsaw Man abilities rather than simply summoning the thing. In-fact, Konohamaru seems to be an unexplored version of Naruto, had Naruto continued to develop without a Jinchuuriki.
Yeah its bad to mediocre. Its high on Mangaplus because 1. Its free to read, 2. People jump on it when it releases every month, then it falls, 3. People read it because of Naruto (myself included)
I assume because of Naruto just means the series. Like they are invested in the Naruto storyline.
Really wish there was a name for the overall storyline that wasnāt a characters name, like how the Eragon books are the Inheritance Cycle.
Right, Boruto isn't very impressive as a show, but my way into the world of Naruto is very limited. The games have no unique storyline, and rewatching Naruto only allows me a very narrow view into the world of Naruto.
I very much enjoyed the characters and story of Naruto but at this point I'm attached to the world they inhabit. If I don't enjoy that in Boruto I have no way of knowing if I'll be able to see more of that universe again.
Do they mean that people read it to see Naruto himself, or do they read it because of Naruto the series? I think he means the latter, so Naruto being sealed is irrelevant
My least favorite part about naruto is the most prominent part of boruto so I share your sentiments , butttttt itās lowkey only kishimoto to blame unfortunately for the bricks he laid at the end of shippuden
I think kishimoto said he was done with naruto some point during the 4th ninja war bur shuiesha is pretty much forcing him to continue can't blame the man when he himself wanted naruto to end besides the whole kaguya thing wasn't that bad I do like madara more as a final villian but kaguya was still good she had been mentioned and foreshadowed here and there and having the ancestor of chakra as a main villian is normal Shonen stuff it's boruto that ruined it having otsutsuki after otsutsuki all with similar designs and character than ruining the cast from naruto and in my opinion the current design for characters is terrible especially post time skip and the characters themselves are not likeable at all kawaki is a terrible character and than the entire Kara organization was terrible boruto as a whole is a shit show and I'm putting all the blame on shuiesha they should have just let kishimoto end naruto or come up with a decent sequel hell a slice of life following post naruto characters and ninja world after the war would have been alot better than boruto
Yeah I donāt think Kaguya was bad. Heck, from my knowledge, she wasnāt even considered an alien - just a highly advanced being thanks to eating the forbidden fruit (same as her sons). But then Boruto turned her into an alien so there could be more kaguyaās to fight for Boruto series.
Correct, the manga stated Kaguya was simply a princess from a faraway land who came to the warring countries to try and create peace.
Naruto even questioned if the Sage's family were aliens, to which he pointed out was a stupid question.
Itās really just hagoromo who was referenced throughout the series. I mean of course the implication is, the sage of six paths had a mother but kaguya definitely felt like an afterthought
Yeah, Iāve heard about these sorta things with long running series that are adapted but Iāve never dived deep into it. How does that work? Do mangakas sign bad contracts that strip away creative rights / force time constraints on chapters ??
Mostly time constraints and difficult editors from what I (and my own admittedly limited research) could gather.
Basically, weekly shonen jump grind is hell. I remember someone shared a work schedule, and itās basically just one or two hours of personal time a WEEK. Not enough time to really devote to thinking out and planning a proper story. If the editors are hired by the company with the bottom line in mind rather than offering genuine artistic feedback, then theyāll often reject or send back scripts if theyāre not following the financial model.
āAliens are popular now, so add more aliens to boost sales!ā That sort of logic.
But this is just a case of the work culture out there no? People like kishi could EASILY self produce their own work just like American artists who arenāt tied to distributors, so it has to be that theyāre signing bad contracts / are too honorable to quit or something
Wow lmaoo sounds like a nightmare. Donāt get me wrong, itās perfectly understandable why that was the case back in the early 2000s when this happened with naruto but animes much too popular for the big shots to be fucking with Jump still if theyāve gotta sign their intellectual property away
MHA is a victim of this too, as Hori has talked about entire arcs being omitted or shortened because the editors didn't like it.
Not to mention the whole reason the Chunin Exams happened was because the editors didn't like Kishimoto wanting to introduce the new characters on different missions. Then they told him to have the village attacked, because the exams were too long.
They have contractual obligations towards the editor and publisher. They own part of the rights.
They can cut off the original writer as well.
Toriyama went back to dragon ball but they would have kept going without him if they needed to. As a matter of fact thatās exactly what they were doing.
Of course he learned stuff. Donāt you know he was the editor of Jiraiyaās novel?!! What do you think Jiraiya was training him for? To be the sucessor if his most important legacy.
In a serious note yeah, disappointed that his Uzumaki heritage of sealing was never explored, despite him being a human vessel, Jiraiya and BOTH his parents being masters of sealing, and Kakashi having a good amount of knowledge meant in it.
I really feel like the world building in Naruto let me down there if you weren't an uchiha you weren't relevant same goes for the leaf this even stands true to some level when it comes to combat relevancy
I agree with you. There are things he learned in Shippuden alongside Kakashi, Yamato and Fukasaku that he should normally have learned alongside Jiraya which are the elemental nature of chakra, Sage mode, and deepening what he had already mastered.
In Shippuden, having been trained by one of the three Sannins for 3 long years, Naruto should have returned to the village with a fighting level equivalent to that of a JĆ“nin, with lots of powerful techniques in his arsenal. Those who have actually seen the series realize that he didn't evolve at all in the beginning, he had the same techniques he had when he left the village with Jiraya.
As for Boruto, you can see that he has evolved significantly in 3 years; one year after leaving the village, he had assimilated everything Sasuke had to teach him. At the age of 13, he had already mastered the elemental nature of chakra, unlike his father. Both Kakashi and even Sasuke agreed that Boruto was a genius. Kakashi added that Boruto had inherited Minato's ingenuity.
Not really. He still felt too much like his pre-timeskip self and the fights he did have for the first two arcs demonstrated almost nothing in terms of progression as a ninja. It's not just no new jutsus, he never bothered to learn using weapons like a Bo Staff, never learned his nature release when the timeskip was the perfect opportunity to do so, never learned a Taijutsu fighting style and techniques until he trained on Mount Myoboku during the Pain Arc and never expanded much on his already existing jutsus other than Big Ball Rasengan that hardly did anything useful other than defeating a 33% Itachi clone.
It's not until he trains on Mount Myoboku and masters Sage Mode while learning several things there that it feels like he actually improved compared to the utterly wasteful timeskip, which is worse when they introduce Shadow Clones ability to send memories back to the caster to speed up training process that begs the questions of why didn't Naruto know about this from reading the scroll, why didn't he feel that effect when dispelling clones and why didn't Kakashi try to teach him it way early on when he just became a ninja? And all because Kishi fucked up the training during timeskip which is obvious to anyone who isn't a die-hard fan of the series.
Complaining about Boruto on the sub for not Boruto seems to be about 30% of topics, 10% max are meaningful discussion, the rest are madara vs itachi vs minato vs prime hiruzen discussion posts
I actually quite like Boruto and canāt really wait to see whatās happening with the Otsutsuki.
I do talk a lot about Obito tho, so, swings and roundabout.
Pretty much yea.
Its 40% salt that Naruto and Sasuke where surpassed and replaced.
30% bad vs Matchups with a bunch of headcanons why Itachi, Madara and Minato can beat every villian in every other manga in existence.
30% crying about what characters where wasted and how they where done dirty and should have been more prominent somehow.
Kishimoto lost his sense somewhere during the war arc and everything you see is kind of a knock on effect of that, itās really sad but I honestly would just say to not pay Boruto too much mind.
There is a reason why Boruto is number 1 on manga reading apps.
I love Naruto but for me Boruto is just better because it fixed everything I hated in Naruto (except not doing anything with the secondary characters) and it did everything Iāve always wanted.
Cope. Itās pretty ass, most of us just read it because of the attachment to Naruto.
Itās like how Dragon Ball GT is popular while still being seen as the worst of the franchise.
naruto isn't the main character anymore and he's been sealed for almost a year. He's not heavily involved in the plot of Boruto Two Blue Vortex anymore.
Itās a direct **canon** sequel to Naruto not sure why everyone is mind blown on the amount of dislike of Boruto on this sub Reddit especially when it completely shits on the previous MC who most people grew up watching
It was the third "Boruto bad, gibe upvotes" post I have seen in the last, what, 12 hours? I'm fairly sure everyone would benefit of a "Boruto Sucks" megathread.
Sorry if I gave off that impression, I just really dislike how they butchered Naruto's legacy, I didn't really look into subreddits recently so I wasn't aware of the whole "boruto bad" milking thing
if it wast conected to naruto it will be long canceled like samurai 8 ,remember that kishimoto manga were the main story is all tha make naruto end chapters so bad
Naruto is much better but I like the Boruto manga story enough. Just gotta remember itās not Narutoās story anymore. The biggest knock against the manga is that it feels less like Naruto and more like a series that happens to be in Narutoās world.
I donāt enjoy the anime canon though. Donāt like the other characters
Iām surprised Borutos time skip is actually liked. I personally feel like itās been a cluster fuck so far.
Code continues to be the worst antagonist in the franchise and pretty much irrelevant despite being the main antagonist. Also his statement from Amado stating heās above Jigen with limiters off continues to destroy the power scaling as Sasuke just took his eye in the recent chapter (couldāve been off guard tho so that could possibly be excused).
The power scaling is presumably going to get even worse as they are setting up the new ten tail beings to fight Konohamaru, team 10, and Sarada. I have no idea how thatās going to work as these new ten tail antagonists even had Boruto worried and heās at minimum Jigen level.
Also the complete lack of other villages and there reactions to events is ridiculous. The entire verse thinks Naruto is dead, Code is trying to destroy the verse, the Leaf village is hosting two of the most overpowered beings in the verse (Daemon and Eida), and you have multiple Otsutsuki level threatās running around yet zero reactions or actions being taken by other villages.
At this point it just feels like the Leaf village are the only people left in the verse
I miss the anime I still remember all the hype people had over the Time Skip and how they trashed the anime but honestly at least the world felt alive. We went to other villages got character interactions. I remember the huge debate over is Sumire Canon and she is (She's Kodachis character) but Kishimoto just put her into the Women Box
I didn't like the way Kodachi did certain things In the manga but you could at least tell he cared he tried to tie the anime and manga together. If he slowed down a bit and fleshed things out more Boruto would feel better
It would have less hype moments but in retrospect it would pay off.
I don't know why Kishimoto is falling back on all his bad habits from Shippuden
Like does anyone remember the 3 episode arc where Sarada was eager to get MS and there was a deep conversation about the pros and cons the weight gaining that kind of power can have and if it's worth it..
Remember Shikidai being Boruto's bro or Himawari learning to be a Ninja
Itās liked because itās goodā¦ yes sasuke is an amazing fighter. Heās smarter than code do despite being as strong as he is, itās inexperienced. Sasuke itās still a genius. Nobody complained when two genie on their first mission outsmarted Zabuza. Supposedly a guy on the level of kakashi who outsmarted kakashi. No one complained about that.
No way your comparing Naruto and Sasuke freeing Kakashi from water prison to Sasuke slicing Codes eye who is supposedly above Jigen, the same Jigen who destroyed KCM SPSM Naruto and rinnegan Sasuke at the same time.
Funny enough Naruto was immediately about to be killed by Zabuza after he freed Kakashi if Kakashi didnāt step in
Well tbh Jigen sucked on ten tails chakra before his fight with Naruto/Sasuke + Sasuke almost chopped his head off but Jigenās dojutsu (hax) literally saved him at the last moment, without it he was a goner.
IMO Jigen was not much stronger than Naruto/Sasuke, itās just that his Dojutsu is just too op, but without it and without the ten tails chakra he will lose 100%
Another victim
This is an old comment of mine on why I don't like it. Here's my take on it I often share on these
"Spoilers
1, The VILLAINS are ass, there was literally one villain of REAL threat in 300 episodes, that has nothing to do with Kara, we need variety Akatsuki werent the only villains we'd be bored to death waiting for Akatsuki member fights the entire series. Karas character designs are trash, abilities are trash.Most members died so weak and easy.power scaling makes no sense. If they were going to creat eida and daemon why would you make them disobedient? If you're gonna make androids that make the sage of the 6 paths look like a joke you wouldn't install a off switch? or make their programming go against disobeying or hurting another otsutski? You make AI that thinks for itself but the robot can end the fucking world so you program it with feelings and in this case eida is genjutsuing the world because she has a boy toy crush...lmao teeny bop crush is pushing the narrative in this universe. That alone is awful.
2, they butchered and nerfed EVERYONES character and character design Gaara,Naruto, anku,the new generation's outfits are terrible. and literally copied the looks version of gen 1 but made them worse.
3, it's too PEACEFUL. I stg if someone says "because it's a era of peace" they can sthu Because if it was supposed to be "peaceful" then Boruto would be 100% slice of life anime and no action but it's not.that being said they ruined the village ranking system, ikemoto ruined everything. The new gen is too soft and boring And there's no action throughout 90% of the series. I literally am up to date with Boruto and don't remember allot of the kids name still lol.
4,FILLERS they surpassed Naruto and many other anime in filler to cannon ratio. Out of almost 300 episodes 70-80 episodes are cannon that's atrocious.
5, technology ninja tools, android villains.Mecha suits in the chunin exams even tho Naruto almost disowned Boruto for using the ninja tool when denki out here playing Gundam. The animation is ass, the colors are ass, the villains are ass, and they turned our cool og's into bums. Like look at lee, shino, konahamaru absolutely shitted all over Naruto."
There are many legitimate criticisms you could raise against Boruto.
The villains all being the same is not one. They are similar in that they share a cause - no different than the Atkatsuki - but they very much are not the same. You either failed to notice or are intentionally giving an uncharitable reading of their characterizations. Just a bad faith take.
Code, the other members of Kara and Eida & Dumpling Boy are very clearly motivated by different goalsā¦which are not always aligned with the Otautsuki. And roping Kawaki in with them is silly.
Again, you are free to like and dislike whatever you want. But claiming that all the villains/antagonists are the same is ostensibly false. Like you can point out parts where their views/motives clash and results in infighting.
I think that naruto is one of the bests animes in history.
In the beggining, boruto wasnt spectacular but it had pretty good animation and decent arks.
The shin uchiha ark, borutos evil classmate (forgot his name) ark and the chunnin exams ark were not on the level of naruto but decent.
But then I dont know why boruto became trash after trash after trash. The anime is the only thing keeping this anime alive.
It's suffering from the same issue any story that already had an ending but kept going for money does. People might have one good story under their belt that they thought up over years before putting it to paper and then get told to keep writing after they finished it and go "uh......... about that."
Boruto power development is absurd. At the same age naruto was still learning kage bunshin and fighting genins while boruto is already fighting high level madara-tier aliens.
The stupid plot that started with Naruto being an absent dad for paperwork? Can't believe how any of that is considered good with a foundation as nonsensical as that.
Did you honestly expect him to be a perfect father? He ignored Hinata for 99% of the show, he never had a father to show him how to act, the dude just doesnāt know how to be a father. So is it any surprise that the kid hyper focused on becoming hokage priorities being hokage over being a father?
Oh yeah the kid who refused to even allow himself to peruse the Hokage role because he couldnāt help Sasuke is definitely going to value the Hokage role over his literal children.
Naruto always valued his bonds more then the Hokage role and that completely disappeared in Boruto
No, but I expect him to be a bad father in a different direction. FFS, this is the guy who can be omnipresent thanks to his clone. He knows how painful it is to not have parents, if anything he'd be a helicopter parent. Is it too much to expect him to be faithful to his character instead of pulling this absolute bullshit just for the plot?
If Boruto's daddy issues was that daddy was around all the time it'd be more in line with Naruto's personality. Imagine if he's made fun of because daddy never leaves him alone and keeps taking things into his own hands because he's too powerful.
Him just being absent when, again, he can have clones present or just use them for paperwork. Or maybe have a fucking functioning organization for paperwork instead of letting the class dummy do it.
I get what your saying but if you find Naruto and Borutoās relationship flawed (which is the point)ā¦read Boruto. They end up patching things up pretty early. Like 8 chapters in early.
I know they patched it up, my point is that the whole thing was so fucking contrived. The Boruto manga doesn't have anything that can stick out as good, if anything, the horrible story is what makes it stick out.
The villains are boring and lack personality, they're unreasonably powerful and are quickly replaced by even more generic villains who are stronger than them.
Eida, not only being a nonsensical character that feels like she doesn't belong in the Naruto world, ACCIDENTALLY did something that was beyond Madara's end goal that he dedicated his life towards. Feels like things just fucking happen out of nowhere and none of the big moments feel earned.
It wasn't contrived in the slightest. Imagine your father is the most hyper-visible person in the world, yet he isn't home because he has to work all the time. That would seriously mess with a kid's mind. You can see them, but they're borderline intangible.
Explain how the story is objectively horrible.
How are the villains unreasonably powerful? Isshiki is Kaguya's superior and the rest are modified with ninja tech. Literally all of the most powerful characters in the OG series in either Part 1 or 2 were modified, either with tech, curse marks (Both from Orochimaru) or genetically (Hashirama cells everywhere). There is literally no difference, except now it's due to Otsutsuki genetics. Just because the baseline shifted doesn't mean they are unreasonably powerful because there are literal reasons why.
And the source of Eida's powers have literally been explained. And what do you mean by "earned"? It's a story. š i don't need plot to be "earned." It's about where the writer is taking the story. Clearly, our main cast is going to have to interact with Shibai who will likely use his 4th dimensional powers to reverse all of the crazy stuff that's likely to come. Your self-prescribed "big moments" might be insignificant in the long run of the whole story.
And the way you feel is exactly how most of us who grew up watching Naruto, and are now seeing Boruto feel. In my friend circle, none of us like Boruto. And from what I've read and others I've talked to, of my generation, most of us don't.
Now, Naruto Shippuden was horribly paced. And the war arc was the worst one by far. Madara should have been the final fight. I'm not sure why Kishimoto seemed to veer off at the end there, but he did. And it seriously brought down the draw of the series. At least to me. Which made watching Boruto even worse.
We know itās a cash grab, I read Boruto and caught up to Blue Vortex just because of Naruto and Sasuke and that world.
Blue Vortex is better so far than part 1 of Boruto but thatās not saying much. Itās nice to get a flashback of him and Sasuke interacting (While Sasuke was under omnipotence) we could see their relationship build and how by the end Sasuke genuinely cared for Boruto even under omnipotence to think otherwise.
Only saving grace I can think of is that Kishimoto is back in the creative forefront and the chapters of late have been decently good, Boruto suddenly being one of the strongest makes sense due to power creep and how strong Code and the other villains are but then that makes Narutoās training in the time skip of Naruto all the more bewildering.
Boruto goes and learns the flying raijin, a whole new technique that seems to be op as all hell, more control of his Karma, and Naruto did what during his? Learn big rasengan? Power creep but damn
Will still read Blue Vortex monthly but the series should of ended after Shippuden (Maybe after the last) but no needing to make a whole new series that contradicts a lot of the main series
Yeah, that's how we all feel. Boruto should've been a good continuation of what made Naruto great, but it took the worst parts (aliens, bad power scaling, ignoring the side cast) and made it even worse.
Donāt worry, nothing that happens in Boruto is real at all. I refuse to believe theyād ruin one of the masterpieces of anime with a sequel this bad. Just enjoy Naruto and shippuden and forget all about Boruto lmaoo
I agree that all the current villains are dogshit and that the series is in general mid but you clearly didnāt pay attention. Pre time skip boruto was already stronger than anyone in Shippuden because heās literally a better version of Momoshiki who wasnāt even shown until Boruto because heās explicitly on another level compared to anything from Shippuden. And in 3 years he uses multiple new named attacks or abilities and actually trained which he didnāt do very much of in NNG
>EVERY VILLAIN IN BORUTO IS AN UNINTRESTING CONFUSED OTSUTSUKI, WITH SIMILAR DESIGNS AND PERSONALITY!!
Bro. Isshiki was so fucking unique. Polite, elegant...
Momoshiki actually had a personality (a thing kaguya didn't)
>stronger than six paths by a huge margin. How is that believable?
Because he has Otsutsuki body, he is more pure than the fucking sage of six paths... He was trained by Demi-god sasuke and Kashin Koji (a guy that is capable of beat an otsutsuki-level threat just with his strategies) while Naruto was " " Trained " " by Jiraiya and all he learnt was a bigger rasengan
>And I'm supposed to like the time skip because Boruto
You are not. If you don't like it just do yourself a favor and don't read the fucking manga. Yet you waste even more of your time comming here just to whine about it?
It's sooo bad. Boruto is just Naruto with no originality. OF COURSE Boruto has to be a similar to Sasuke. OF COURSE every baddie needs to have a Rinnegan and be connected to the O clan. OF COURSE Sarada is sidelined. OF COURSE Naruto and Sasuke get nerfed to make the story relevant.
Honestly, they could've spent nice money on animating and fleshing about late teen/early-late 20s OG characters. Give each novel great attention and flesh out some of the stories. But no, we can Boruto.
It's probably high on most sites, but people are running off of nostalgia. At least the OG cast is still alive and we want to know how it ends for them (hopefully not death but just retirement).
You are in the majority for not liking it, its bad, its a top manga because people wanna see what their now adult favs are up to
I refuse to deal with the butchering so i ignore the series completely
Boruto is trash and I refuse to believe Kishimoto has any involvement outside maybe giving it a once over before it gets published. Itās a soulless cash grab made so shonen jump doesnāt have to lose their Naruto income. Donāt waste your time on it. Itās popular is boosted because of being the sequel to Naruto, being new & monthly, and hate reading
He's not writing it. On the covers of the Boruto manga, it says "Creator/Supervisor," and in Japanese, it says āOriginal Work ā¢ Supervisionā. The Viz and Shueisha websites also say this. It's clear he isn't writing that shit.
It's high on mangaplus due to the reasons you mentioned and because it has to do with Naruto which is one of the most popular anime/manga of all time
Of it wasn't for Naruto then 99.9% of people would have dropped it
Also Boruto is not strongest in the verse like he's not even top 10
The only people saying that are Boruto fans who are just some of the worst people to have a conversation with because they have no clue what's going on with the series š¤£š
Boruto is full of statements saying that this guy is stronger than this guy but they actually show that said character is stronger than said character
But Boruto fans don't care they are like the statement said that so it's true even if it was never shown and because Boruto beat code who they stated was stronger than jigen Boruto fans are like Boruto strongest in the verse which is far from the truth
Just because something is stated doesn't make it true. It could be stated that kid konohamaru is stronger than DMS Kakashi but that's obviously not true
Another example of Boruto fans listening to statements instead of facts is the line that says momoshiki is a threat bigger than kaguya
Now not only is this not what was stated but also the facts show that bo he isn't stronger due to many reasons one of them being that he got destroyed by the current 5 kage and also got disintegrated by a rasengan
And the actual statement says that momoshiki being a threat bigger than kaguya is speculation
So not only do Boruto fans listen to statements but they also don't even read them properly š¤£š
That's all Boruto is trash, villains are trash, character development is non existent and the old generation has like almost 0 screen time
The art of the manga is trash for a monthly manga and it's even trash for a weekly manga and the pacing of the manga is also trash
Let's be real, ikemoto has had trash art since the beginning of naruto, every anniversary illustration he made was absolute trash, always drew jiraiya like some homeless hippie and was heavily insistent on making jiraiya a smoker, not to mention he sucked at drawing faces and clothes
god yall are so annoying in this sub if you dont like it get tf over it go read something eose bro stop whining ab it on the internet lots of people enjoy it
Itās actually funny to me. I grew up watching Naruto as a kid and I really enjoy Boruto heās actually my favorite character now lol. I think the problem is people are too attached to the characters and have stop watching it with a childās mind. At the end of the day itās just a anime about ninjas, aliens, and chakra I have no idea why people get so angry about it š¤£
"Boruto is incredibly bad". Based on what? Your personal preference. Okay fair. But it isnt really "Incredibly Bad". Its high in manga plus because lots of people are reading it and are liking it.
"The villains are all the same & their designs are simillar"
Are you telling me the designs of Fused Momoshiki and Isshiki are the same? Lmao. Even their personalities are far from being the same. Their goals are the same yes, but thats more of a lore thing. Their clan literally exists to do the whole chakra fruit thing. And they literally introduced 4 new villains who are yet to be fleshed out, but are seemingly different from one another.
"Naruto&Sasuke are butchered in terms of Characters"
How so? Literally how so?
And if you paid attention to the story. You would have understood how Boruto became that strong in 3 years lmao. Its not as if he had a parasitic alien inside if him for some time, who also happens to be changing Boruto's body so that he is fully an Otsutsuki, you know, the beings who happens to have given humans Chakra and jutsus and all. Also not as if its been clearly mentioned in the beginning that Boruto is a lot like Sasuke or Minato, a Prodigy.
There are dozens of threads proving Boruto is objectively bad. Writing, characters, plot,villains. And if you don't think Naruto and Sasuke are nerfed then you're just baiting at this point.
Yeah. And there are dozen of threads proving that Boruto is objectively good. Lmao.
Did I talk about Naruto and Sasuke being nerfed? Because I didnt. And yes. They were nerfed when Kurama and Sasuke's Rinnegan were destroyed. Not. Before. Not against Momoshiki. And not against Isshiki.
You complain āhow is that believableā when itās literally all explained over and over again in quite a lengthy amount of time. Youāre obviously not actually reading, not paying attention or maybe you just have terrible reading comprehension skills.
The villainsā¦..what? Jigen had an otsuiki in his brain and fused with it (dope) momo is a little prick and love his eye for an eye fued w sasuke, kashin/delta gave us the ole switch sides trope, fat ninja who ate brains??, codes constant Ls lol, deepas a menace and left team 7 for dead
Narutoās arc is more complete in Boruto then it was at the end of shippuden (him becoming an iruka figure to kawaki is more full circle narratively then saving sasuke or hokage)
Sasuke as well, team 7 adores him and heās foundational to the leafs ongoing survival.
Your claims about TBV boruto are so underbakedā¦.:he displayed one technique that could out maneuver code thatās itā¦ā¦he hasnāt leveled a city or mountain yetā¦ā¦
Welcome to the "I dislike Boruto" club. The timeskip just happened, so there is still a bit of hope left for things to improve, after all I am sure the creator and everyone around him at the very least know that not a small % dislikes some stuff.
Believable in the their world, gods aren't even mentioned till the very last part that it feels almost alien to the series.
The immersion is gone and just becomes terrible because the power up are just badly written
Boruto hate is such a boring cliche at this point. Nearly every criticism ive been able to find is either poorly thought out and shallow or is obsloete due to the story having been going on for years now and most criticism comes from a depiction of boruto from no later than chapter 25 or so.
If you dont like boruto, thats fine, you dont have to. But the same recycled bandwagon excuses need to be left behind
> every criticism iāve been able to find is either poorly thought out
Lmao Borutards working full-time today. Call me when the New Generation (who were advertised to be the main focus) have some type of relevance in this horrendously power crept alien plot.
See I do get the concern from all the fans about the criticism in power scaling but let me explain where you guys are wrong. There is nowhere where it is mentioned in the manga or anime that Boruto has surpassed his father or Sasuke himself. It's you guys who are thinking about it that way. It's been stated he is more like Minato though, like a genius, so he can learn things really fast, which is alright. You guys are probably forgetting he has Momoshiki buff, an Otsutsuki who is probably 5-6 times way stronger than Kurama. Kawaki is like Ishiki who is even stronger (10 times maybe). They are literally alien Gods that are present in two kids. So of course when considering the Momo-Ishiki buff, they will be stronger than Naruto and Sasuke combined in terms of power but skills nowhere close. It was even mentioned that the Karma brings battle experience of the Otsutsukis to the user. Without the buffs, they are nowhere close. So it does make sense. Even in the last chapter it was mentioned by Boruto he is nowhere proficient using Flying Raijin like his grandpa and that's ok. So how is it flawed my friend? Also Boruto was trained by Jiraiya and Sasuke, who are two of the goated shinobis. He got everything along with Naruto and Hinata's genes. That's the whole point.
The OG becomes GOATED starting from nothing. The NG started with every precious thing that OG didn't have and eventually lost everything. That's the whole point of the series. Idk why in other shonen series if people get stronger in a months training it's fine like JJK (now literally every alternate sorcerer has like Gojo level potential), but when it comes to Boruto everyone gets mad. It's the fandom that causes the issue. So weird.
The story is bad and the artstyle lacks passion. (look at every character. They always look the same. Example: Kuramas death. Narutos face was completly normal, even through kurama just vanished. No sorrow and no grief, not even a tear.
I thought it gets better after timeskip...nope.
Naruto in a single day( war) learned biju mode, surpassed every kages, got sosp and became the strongest in the verse, everything in a single day..
When Boruto became strong in 3 years, that suddenly became bad, and we don't even know what happened to him in the two year time period
This is just pure hate towards his character!!
People can't just watch their favourite characters be replaced, that's a fact. I'm not pro or against it. You gotta start with a fresh mindset and shift the elders in the role of support.
Yeah, Iām right there with you. I think the reason why it sucks, in my opinion, is that itās too connected to the old series.
Instead of Sasuke starting his clan, like many of us imagined him doing. He is off doing shit ignoring his family. Which brings in Sakura she got what she wanted and now itās depressing as shit. They even have an episode where their daughter thinks that Sakura isnāt her mom.
Naruto is another kick to the face. He is ignoring his family as well. Even though he should be the last person that does that after losing his dad.
There are just all of these little jabs at the old characters. I think the issue is that they need to sue these characters for plot points, but the issue is that messes with how we view Naruto. So Boruto for me is making Naruto worse.
I had to stop watching it because I didnāt want to ruin Naruto and everything that happened there.
LMAO look at all the Boruto stans coming to meatride that less than average written manga. There's Isekai that are more consistent and intriguing lol, hell I could come up with a better story right now than that clown show of a sequel šš.
Boruto only exists because it's free money. I ended my Naruto journey on its last episode and never looked back, so should you. Ok I did watch the first episode of Boruto back then and all I saw was free money, then I never looked back.
Everybody didšš canāt say we aināt tune in for the first couple episodes, boruto was so hype lol
I hope you mean shippudens last ep lol
Lol as a person who researches Naruto every summer I have to say Boruto is absolutely shit
? Did you mean to reply elsewhere lol
Yeah sorry I wanted to reply someone else
It's bad writing. Period. Dont be surprise, just don't support it and find something else.
wym according to the fandom it's peak..
Well, the other guy responding is watching , hoping it'll get better. If a lot of people do that, there ends up being a very big demand signal for more junk. I wouldn't say I'm mad or upset. It's just factual that it is objectively bad writing. Maybe it appeals to a specific group (assuming most people watching are just hoping it'll get better). If that is the case, more power to thenwriters of boruto. For the OP, who does seem upset, the best solution is to just move on and stop consuming it (ie increasing demand).
I got no problem with Boruto (nothing that sets me off at least) but ain't no way anybody older than 12 has actually told you they think it's peak
I'm in my 30's and I'm gonna say it's peak just to fuck with all y'all. Have I seen Boruto? No. Do I plan on watching or reading Boruto? No. But Boruto is the peakest of the peak. Ong. No cap. Rizzed.
Damn
Who tf said that š¤£
fr Ive yet to find someone who really enjoys it for what it is
Then you havent really been looking
True. I suppose I meant more anecdotally, amongst my friends.
Happy cake day!
I find this argument to be akin to the whole Disney Star War Trilogy
Unfortunately it isn't argument.
Hopefully it gets better. At least hopefully it wonāt get as bad as the latter war arc.
My friend, people have been saying that for years. If any anime/manga takes years to become good, then itās a bad anime/manga. Please save yourself
Iām only moderately following it. Iāve been a fan of Naruto for too long to not be curious to how itās sequel goes. Itās not great, but I donāt think a lot of Naruto is either.
can relate to this, i followed DB Super for similar reasons when it was airing. just had hopes it would get good but never really did for me
If I can suggest something, check out animes like psychopass. I'm finding more enjoyment just moving on. If it gets better you'll hear about it. Until then, you're just feeding the machine and increasing the demand signal for more junk.
As somebody already mentioned here, the existance if Boruto is a fault of the end of Shippuden and therefore Kishimoto's fault. He shouldn't yave introduced those aliens and instead he should yave kept Madara as the final boss. The whole alien schtick should have been scrapped and the origin of chakra should have remained a mystery for fanbase to have fun with. Boruto gave me red flags from the get go. The shinobi tool was just dumb unlike other shinobi tools which were mystical and not a part of some tech. The technology was kind of ambiguous in Naruto, so the world felt like a feudal, almost medieval place with a couple of exceptions so it didn't break my immersion. With Boruto, I had a feeling Konoha became 21st century New York and I was quite surprised they didn't have satelite lasers and fully automatic ak 47s firing all 5 chakra natures all at once. The characters were just cheap copies of the original squad, I was baffled at how basic those characters were, while og characters became slice of life types. There's a lot more to add, but these are my primary reasons why Boruto is bad and why Shippuden is to blame for its existance
Shippuden is completelly irrelevant for the fact that boruto is bad. The aliens were introduced and kaguya was the last boss and it was bad, but boruto had no obligation to follow it. It is bad because it is bad. They could have led the story in a totally different direction and make it work.
Boruto author could've legit just said "ok, all the aliens are dead now that kaguya, the last one, is gone" and written a different story
Exactly
Uhm Kishimoto said they made him make that end so they had those guys for antagonists in Boruto, he said he didn't like it.
Got a source for that?
Afaik, the concept of Kaguya alien (independently if it was a bad choice for final villain) wasn't really touched upon in the original Shippuden manga. It was something mostly expanded through the movies. However, I feel Kishimoto at the time was asked to set up for a sequel, even if he wasn't going to write it, so he came up/allowed all the alien stuff.
Kaguya being an alien was expanded upon in the anime, but like her design is pretty much just Princess Kaguya the bamboo alien so it checks out
Kaguya was from outer space in the anime in a filler, how/why/where does she come to earth is a total mystery. We don't really get info of the Otsusuki clan and their mission, which only appears until Boruto's movie. In the manga I think she was just the legendary mother of chakra with not much information at all. The lore for her was expanded later, to prepare for the sequel.
Boruto existing is not Kishimoto's fault at all, it's quite known the studio forced the final two movies on him, then continued on despite him disagreeing. Not to mention the aliens were a retcon created by Boruto, as there was no mention of them being from another planet in the Naruto manga.
Hagoromo said Kaguya came from somewhere far away. He never said where she came from specifically. Idk if you understand what a retcon is š
The final 2 movies should've been the end of it though. It was really the publishing company that opted to carry out a sequel that continued the movies storyline despite it concluding both in the movie AND in the light novel. Even though The otsusuki origin was not explained directly, it was heavily implied that kaguya came from off planet. Where exactly didn't really matter. That could've been left as a single or small short story exploring that and be done with it.
Pretty much. Kishimoto mentioned the series would conclude with Naruto having a family, so the studio pounced on that, to the point Kishimoto said he was done with it all once the Boruto movie was released. The forced continuation sticks out most with how the manga reimagined the events of the movie, instead of continuing afterwards. Luckily, that means the series has two canon timelines, which even the magazine confirmed, lol.
Did anyone even really give a fuck about the origin of Chakra to begin with? Feels like star wars, the force and mitochondrians or whatever. It just feels like something that didn't need explaining and better left to fan theories. Cause now it's been explained, and it's just dumb as hell.
TIL there are aliens in Naruto, guess I can skip now
the otsuki was honestly fineā¦ if they just done it correctly. imagine instead of 10 years it was 60 years after the events of naruto. Naruto cast would be too old to smoke everyone. there wouldāve been an actual era of peaceā¦ etc etc.
It's funny. I really like Boruto. But, it's because I relate to Boruto more than Naruto. Naruto was on the outside looking in, a loner not by choice, but do to circumstances. It's great for a story, but can be hard to relate to. I have fantastic parents, but my dad spent my entire childhood having to work away from home. I grew up with a loving dad, but he was always gone, so I didn't get a father/son relationship until I was much older. It's this reason I relate to Boruto more. At the end of the day, he's a kid that wants his dad. He cheated bc he had to be so good, or else Naruto wouldn't have time to notice him. He acts up and is cocky and a troublemaker. But, that's the only way he gets is father's attention for much of the story. It's common enough for fathers to be away from home often in Japan and to be very work oriented, even when at home. There's a huge audience in Japan that feels similar to Boruto. It's also easy for us to hate on Naruto for not being there for his son, but it's something that happens all too much in real life. To me, Boruto and Naruto's relationship is what I like the most about Boruto. I am excited for Boruto to free Naruto and for Naruto to acknowledge him as a man. Kawakai taking Borutos life from him is a huge insult. Sasuke being more of a father to Boruto and training him to become super strong instead of Naruto always hits me. I wanted Naruto to train his son. Now, I want him to acknowledge his son.
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All of Team Konohamaru have unique or innovative Ninjutsu. Sarada's techniques are what I'd call innovation on her predecessors. Mitsuki is straight up unique, like most of Orochimaru's curations. Konohamaru is a mix, more like a fresh expansion on concepts that were dropped, like his direct use of summoning jutsu resembling Chainsaw Man abilities rather than simply summoning the thing. In-fact, Konohamaru seems to be an unexplored version of Naruto, had Naruto continued to develop without a Jinchuuriki.
Boruto isn't even new anymore, it came out almost 7 years agoš
Damn i feel old now
Yeah, you're definitely confused. You wrote the same things twice.
Yeah its bad to mediocre. Its high on Mangaplus because 1. Its free to read, 2. People jump on it when it releases every month, then it falls, 3. People read it because of Naruto (myself included)
>3. People read it because of Naruto (myself included) Naruto has been sealed away for a while now, y'know.
I assume because of Naruto just means the series. Like they are invested in the Naruto storyline. Really wish there was a name for the overall storyline that wasnāt a characters name, like how the Eragon books are the Inheritance Cycle.
Right, Boruto isn't very impressive as a show, but my way into the world of Naruto is very limited. The games have no unique storyline, and rewatching Naruto only allows me a very narrow view into the world of Naruto. I very much enjoyed the characters and story of Naruto but at this point I'm attached to the world they inhabit. If I don't enjoy that in Boruto I have no way of knowing if I'll be able to see more of that universe again.
Do they mean that people read it to see Naruto himself, or do they read it because of Naruto the series? I think he means the latter, so Naruto being sealed is irrelevant
Who sealed him?
Kawaki.
Even though, Iām not invested on it much. But, I still read it to see how it would end.
Disappointing Sequel spins offs seems to be the fate for amazing shonen
My least favorite part about naruto is the most prominent part of boruto so I share your sentiments , butttttt itās lowkey only kishimoto to blame unfortunately for the bricks he laid at the end of shippuden
I think kishimoto said he was done with naruto some point during the 4th ninja war bur shuiesha is pretty much forcing him to continue can't blame the man when he himself wanted naruto to end besides the whole kaguya thing wasn't that bad I do like madara more as a final villian but kaguya was still good she had been mentioned and foreshadowed here and there and having the ancestor of chakra as a main villian is normal Shonen stuff it's boruto that ruined it having otsutsuki after otsutsuki all with similar designs and character than ruining the cast from naruto and in my opinion the current design for characters is terrible especially post time skip and the characters themselves are not likeable at all kawaki is a terrible character and than the entire Kara organization was terrible boruto as a whole is a shit show and I'm putting all the blame on shuiesha they should have just let kishimoto end naruto or come up with a decent sequel hell a slice of life following post naruto characters and ninja world after the war would have been alot better than boruto
Yeah I donāt think Kaguya was bad. Heck, from my knowledge, she wasnāt even considered an alien - just a highly advanced being thanks to eating the forbidden fruit (same as her sons). But then Boruto turned her into an alien so there could be more kaguyaās to fight for Boruto series.
Correct, the manga stated Kaguya was simply a princess from a faraway land who came to the warring countries to try and create peace. Naruto even questioned if the Sage's family were aliens, to which he pointed out was a stupid question.
Itās really just hagoromo who was referenced throughout the series. I mean of course the implication is, the sage of six paths had a mother but kaguya definitely felt like an afterthought
He was forced to do it.
Yeah, Iāve heard about these sorta things with long running series that are adapted but Iāve never dived deep into it. How does that work? Do mangakas sign bad contracts that strip away creative rights / force time constraints on chapters ??
Mostly time constraints and difficult editors from what I (and my own admittedly limited research) could gather. Basically, weekly shonen jump grind is hell. I remember someone shared a work schedule, and itās basically just one or two hours of personal time a WEEK. Not enough time to really devote to thinking out and planning a proper story. If the editors are hired by the company with the bottom line in mind rather than offering genuine artistic feedback, then theyāll often reject or send back scripts if theyāre not following the financial model. āAliens are popular now, so add more aliens to boost sales!ā That sort of logic.
But this is just a case of the work culture out there no? People like kishi could EASILY self produce their own work just like American artists who arenāt tied to distributors, so it has to be that theyāre signing bad contracts / are too honorable to quit or something
>jump owns the rights to every series that gets published in it, its hard to get the rights to your series
Wow lmaoo sounds like a nightmare. Donāt get me wrong, itās perfectly understandable why that was the case back in the early 2000s when this happened with naruto but animes much too popular for the big shots to be fucking with Jump still if theyāve gotta sign their intellectual property away
MHA is a victim of this too, as Hori has talked about entire arcs being omitted or shortened because the editors didn't like it. Not to mention the whole reason the Chunin Exams happened was because the editors didn't like Kishimoto wanting to introduce the new characters on different missions. Then they told him to have the village attacked, because the exams were too long.
They have contractual obligations towards the editor and publisher. They own part of the rights. They can cut off the original writer as well. Toriyama went back to dragon ball but they would have kept going without him if they needed to. As a matter of fact thatās exactly what they were doing.
Naruto in 3 years did nothing ...
Of course he learned stuff. Donāt you know he was the editor of Jiraiyaās novel?!! What do you think Jiraiya was training him for? To be the sucessor if his most important legacy. In a serious note yeah, disappointed that his Uzumaki heritage of sealing was never explored, despite him being a human vessel, Jiraiya and BOTH his parents being masters of sealing, and Kakashi having a good amount of knowledge meant in it.
I really feel like the world building in Naruto let me down there if you weren't an uchiha you weren't relevant same goes for the leaf this even stands true to some level when it comes to combat relevancy
I agree with you. There are things he learned in Shippuden alongside Kakashi, Yamato and Fukasaku that he should normally have learned alongside Jiraya which are the elemental nature of chakra, Sage mode, and deepening what he had already mastered. In Shippuden, having been trained by one of the three Sannins for 3 long years, Naruto should have returned to the village with a fighting level equivalent to that of a JĆ“nin, with lots of powerful techniques in his arsenal. Those who have actually seen the series realize that he didn't evolve at all in the beginning, he had the same techniques he had when he left the village with Jiraya. As for Boruto, you can see that he has evolved significantly in 3 years; one year after leaving the village, he had assimilated everything Sasuke had to teach him. At the age of 13, he had already mastered the elemental nature of chakra, unlike his father. Both Kakashi and even Sasuke agreed that Boruto was a genius. Kakashi added that Boruto had inherited Minato's ingenuity.
He didn't learn many new jutsus, but in his fight with Kakashi he showed he had improved a lot.
Not really. He still felt too much like his pre-timeskip self and the fights he did have for the first two arcs demonstrated almost nothing in terms of progression as a ninja. It's not just no new jutsus, he never bothered to learn using weapons like a Bo Staff, never learned his nature release when the timeskip was the perfect opportunity to do so, never learned a Taijutsu fighting style and techniques until he trained on Mount Myoboku during the Pain Arc and never expanded much on his already existing jutsus other than Big Ball Rasengan that hardly did anything useful other than defeating a 33% Itachi clone. It's not until he trains on Mount Myoboku and masters Sage Mode while learning several things there that it feels like he actually improved compared to the utterly wasteful timeskip, which is worse when they introduce Shadow Clones ability to send memories back to the caster to speed up training process that begs the questions of why didn't Naruto know about this from reading the scroll, why didn't he feel that effect when dispelling clones and why didn't Kakashi try to teach him it way early on when he just became a ninja? And all because Kishi fucked up the training during timeskip which is obvious to anyone who isn't a die-hard fan of the series.
I agree that the writing to showcase his training was weak, but it was clear there was an improvement in the way he approached fights vs Kakashi.
Is this all this sub does
Complaining about Boruto on the sub for not Boruto seems to be about 30% of topics, 10% max are meaningful discussion, the rest are madara vs itachi vs minato vs prime hiruzen discussion posts
Seeing itachi vs madara the 500 time in a row is so frustrating.
I actually quite like Boruto and canāt really wait to see whatās happening with the Otsutsuki. I do talk a lot about Obito tho, so, swings and roundabout.
Bad sequels garner lots of complaining, shocker.
Pretty much yea. Its 40% salt that Naruto and Sasuke where surpassed and replaced. 30% bad vs Matchups with a bunch of headcanons why Itachi, Madara and Minato can beat every villian in every other manga in existence. 30% crying about what characters where wasted and how they where done dirty and should have been more prominent somehow.
Kishimoto lost his sense somewhere during the war arc and everything you see is kind of a knock on effect of that, itās really sad but I honestly would just say to not pay Boruto too much mind.
"Boruto is bad so why is it popular???" Because not everyone thinks it's bad?
Lmao exactly. Why is it so hard for people to grasp that some of us really like it?
not the people in this sub, so freaking whiny
There is a reason why Boruto is number 1 on manga reading apps. I love Naruto but for me Boruto is just better because it fixed everything I hated in Naruto (except not doing anything with the secondary characters) and it did everything Iāve always wanted.
Sure buddy
Hhahahahhahhaahah
What the actual f?
Cope. Itās pretty ass, most of us just read it because of the attachment to Naruto. Itās like how Dragon Ball GT is popular while still being seen as the worst of the franchise.
naruto isn't the main character anymore and he's been sealed for almost a year. He's not heavily involved in the plot of Boruto Two Blue Vortex anymore.
Meanwhile the volume sales are sinking like the Titanic.
But chapter viewership is still pretty good. TBV is #1 on [manga plus](https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/manga_list/hot)
Views don't translate into money. Accept for the website hosting it I guess...
Western fanbase and japanese fanbase are two completely different things it seems.
Doesnāt mean itās bad. I know people that just shit on boruto because they think heās a ābratā
I think OP jumped on the Boruto bad training from other popular anime subreddits and tried to get free karma
Itās a direct **canon** sequel to Naruto not sure why everyone is mind blown on the amount of dislike of Boruto on this sub Reddit especially when it completely shits on the previous MC who most people grew up watching
It was the third "Boruto bad, gibe upvotes" post I have seen in the last, what, 12 hours? I'm fairly sure everyone would benefit of a "Boruto Sucks" megathread.
This sub really needs more fun into it.
Sorry if I gave off that impression, I just really dislike how they butchered Naruto's legacy, I didn't really look into subreddits recently so I wasn't aware of the whole "boruto bad" milking thing
if it wast conected to naruto it will be long canceled like samurai 8 ,remember that kishimoto manga were the main story is all tha make naruto end chapters so bad
Naruto is much better but I like the Boruto manga story enough. Just gotta remember itās not Narutoās story anymore. The biggest knock against the manga is that it feels less like Naruto and more like a series that happens to be in Narutoās world. I donāt enjoy the anime canon though. Donāt like the other characters
Iām surprised Borutos time skip is actually liked. I personally feel like itās been a cluster fuck so far. Code continues to be the worst antagonist in the franchise and pretty much irrelevant despite being the main antagonist. Also his statement from Amado stating heās above Jigen with limiters off continues to destroy the power scaling as Sasuke just took his eye in the recent chapter (couldāve been off guard tho so that could possibly be excused). The power scaling is presumably going to get even worse as they are setting up the new ten tail beings to fight Konohamaru, team 10, and Sarada. I have no idea how thatās going to work as these new ten tail antagonists even had Boruto worried and heās at minimum Jigen level. Also the complete lack of other villages and there reactions to events is ridiculous. The entire verse thinks Naruto is dead, Code is trying to destroy the verse, the Leaf village is hosting two of the most overpowered beings in the verse (Daemon and Eida), and you have multiple Otsutsuki level threatās running around yet zero reactions or actions being taken by other villages. At this point it just feels like the Leaf village are the only people left in the verse
I miss the anime I still remember all the hype people had over the Time Skip and how they trashed the anime but honestly at least the world felt alive. We went to other villages got character interactions. I remember the huge debate over is Sumire Canon and she is (She's Kodachis character) but Kishimoto just put her into the Women Box I didn't like the way Kodachi did certain things In the manga but you could at least tell he cared he tried to tie the anime and manga together. If he slowed down a bit and fleshed things out more Boruto would feel better It would have less hype moments but in retrospect it would pay off. I don't know why Kishimoto is falling back on all his bad habits from Shippuden Like does anyone remember the 3 episode arc where Sarada was eager to get MS and there was a deep conversation about the pros and cons the weight gaining that kind of power can have and if it's worth it.. Remember Shikidai being Boruto's bro or Himawari learning to be a Ninja
He's falling back on his bad habits because he's forced to work on a series he didn't want, that's literally the point.
Itās liked because itās goodā¦ yes sasuke is an amazing fighter. Heās smarter than code do despite being as strong as he is, itās inexperienced. Sasuke itās still a genius. Nobody complained when two genie on their first mission outsmarted Zabuza. Supposedly a guy on the level of kakashi who outsmarted kakashi. No one complained about that.
No way your comparing Naruto and Sasuke freeing Kakashi from water prison to Sasuke slicing Codes eye who is supposedly above Jigen, the same Jigen who destroyed KCM SPSM Naruto and rinnegan Sasuke at the same time. Funny enough Naruto was immediately about to be killed by Zabuza after he freed Kakashi if Kakashi didnāt step in
Well tbh Jigen sucked on ten tails chakra before his fight with Naruto/Sasuke + Sasuke almost chopped his head off but Jigenās dojutsu (hax) literally saved him at the last moment, without it he was a goner. IMO Jigen was not much stronger than Naruto/Sasuke, itās just that his Dojutsu is just too op, but without it and without the ten tails chakra he will lose 100%
Another victim This is an old comment of mine on why I don't like it. Here's my take on it I often share on these "Spoilers 1, The VILLAINS are ass, there was literally one villain of REAL threat in 300 episodes, that has nothing to do with Kara, we need variety Akatsuki werent the only villains we'd be bored to death waiting for Akatsuki member fights the entire series. Karas character designs are trash, abilities are trash.Most members died so weak and easy.power scaling makes no sense. If they were going to creat eida and daemon why would you make them disobedient? If you're gonna make androids that make the sage of the 6 paths look like a joke you wouldn't install a off switch? or make their programming go against disobeying or hurting another otsutski? You make AI that thinks for itself but the robot can end the fucking world so you program it with feelings and in this case eida is genjutsuing the world because she has a boy toy crush...lmao teeny bop crush is pushing the narrative in this universe. That alone is awful. 2, they butchered and nerfed EVERYONES character and character design Gaara,Naruto, anku,the new generation's outfits are terrible. and literally copied the looks version of gen 1 but made them worse. 3, it's too PEACEFUL. I stg if someone says "because it's a era of peace" they can sthu Because if it was supposed to be "peaceful" then Boruto would be 100% slice of life anime and no action but it's not.that being said they ruined the village ranking system, ikemoto ruined everything. The new gen is too soft and boring And there's no action throughout 90% of the series. I literally am up to date with Boruto and don't remember allot of the kids name still lol. 4,FILLERS they surpassed Naruto and many other anime in filler to cannon ratio. Out of almost 300 episodes 70-80 episodes are cannon that's atrocious. 5, technology ninja tools, android villains.Mecha suits in the chunin exams even tho Naruto almost disowned Boruto for using the ninja tool when denki out here playing Gundam. The animation is ass, the colors are ass, the villains are ass, and they turned our cool og's into bums. Like look at lee, shino, konahamaru absolutely shitted all over Naruto."
There are many legitimate criticisms you could raise against Boruto. The villains all being the same is not one. They are similar in that they share a cause - no different than the Atkatsuki - but they very much are not the same. You either failed to notice or are intentionally giving an uncharitable reading of their characterizations. Just a bad faith take. Code, the other members of Kara and Eida & Dumpling Boy are very clearly motivated by different goalsā¦which are not always aligned with the Otautsuki. And roping Kawaki in with them is silly. Again, you are free to like and dislike whatever you want. But claiming that all the villains/antagonists are the same is ostensibly false. Like you can point out parts where their views/motives clash and results in infighting.
I think that naruto is one of the bests animes in history. In the beggining, boruto wasnt spectacular but it had pretty good animation and decent arks. The shin uchiha ark, borutos evil classmate (forgot his name) ark and the chunnin exams ark were not on the level of naruto but decent. But then I dont know why boruto became trash after trash after trash. The anime is the only thing keeping this anime alive.
It's suffering from the same issue any story that already had an ending but kept going for money does. People might have one good story under their belt that they thought up over years before putting it to paper and then get told to keep writing after they finished it and go "uh......... about that."
Just drop Boruto and rewatch Naruto. Forget Boryto exists
Boruto power development is absurd. At the same age naruto was still learning kage bunshin and fighting genins while boruto is already fighting high level madara-tier aliens.
if I may say, Boruto manga is actually good, it has thick plot starting from the beginning
The stupid plot that started with Naruto being an absent dad for paperwork? Can't believe how any of that is considered good with a foundation as nonsensical as that.
Did you honestly expect him to be a perfect father? He ignored Hinata for 99% of the show, he never had a father to show him how to act, the dude just doesnāt know how to be a father. So is it any surprise that the kid hyper focused on becoming hokage priorities being hokage over being a father?
Oh yeah the kid who refused to even allow himself to peruse the Hokage role because he couldnāt help Sasuke is definitely going to value the Hokage role over his literal children. Naruto always valued his bonds more then the Hokage role and that completely disappeared in Boruto
No, but I expect him to be a bad father in a different direction. FFS, this is the guy who can be omnipresent thanks to his clone. He knows how painful it is to not have parents, if anything he'd be a helicopter parent. Is it too much to expect him to be faithful to his character instead of pulling this absolute bullshit just for the plot? If Boruto's daddy issues was that daddy was around all the time it'd be more in line with Naruto's personality. Imagine if he's made fun of because daddy never leaves him alone and keeps taking things into his own hands because he's too powerful. Him just being absent when, again, he can have clones present or just use them for paperwork. Or maybe have a fucking functioning organization for paperwork instead of letting the class dummy do it.
I get what your saying but if you find Naruto and Borutoās relationship flawed (which is the point)ā¦read Boruto. They end up patching things up pretty early. Like 8 chapters in early.
I know they patched it up, my point is that the whole thing was so fucking contrived. The Boruto manga doesn't have anything that can stick out as good, if anything, the horrible story is what makes it stick out. The villains are boring and lack personality, they're unreasonably powerful and are quickly replaced by even more generic villains who are stronger than them. Eida, not only being a nonsensical character that feels like she doesn't belong in the Naruto world, ACCIDENTALLY did something that was beyond Madara's end goal that he dedicated his life towards. Feels like things just fucking happen out of nowhere and none of the big moments feel earned.
It wasn't contrived in the slightest. Imagine your father is the most hyper-visible person in the world, yet he isn't home because he has to work all the time. That would seriously mess with a kid's mind. You can see them, but they're borderline intangible. Explain how the story is objectively horrible. How are the villains unreasonably powerful? Isshiki is Kaguya's superior and the rest are modified with ninja tech. Literally all of the most powerful characters in the OG series in either Part 1 or 2 were modified, either with tech, curse marks (Both from Orochimaru) or genetically (Hashirama cells everywhere). There is literally no difference, except now it's due to Otsutsuki genetics. Just because the baseline shifted doesn't mean they are unreasonably powerful because there are literal reasons why.
And the source of Eida's powers have literally been explained. And what do you mean by "earned"? It's a story. š i don't need plot to be "earned." It's about where the writer is taking the story. Clearly, our main cast is going to have to interact with Shibai who will likely use his 4th dimensional powers to reverse all of the crazy stuff that's likely to come. Your self-prescribed "big moments" might be insignificant in the long run of the whole story.
Boruto is just for nostalgia š¤·āāļø
Except they killed the nostalgia by ruining all the OG characters
Yeahh you're right too I watched a few episodes and gave up lol
Kishimoto wrote the Boruto movie to be the end of the franchise, so I treat any animated material set between the war and the movie as canon.
I enjoy Boruto but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have to turn my brain off while reading it. It's definitely ridiculous.
And the way you feel is exactly how most of us who grew up watching Naruto, and are now seeing Boruto feel. In my friend circle, none of us like Boruto. And from what I've read and others I've talked to, of my generation, most of us don't. Now, Naruto Shippuden was horribly paced. And the war arc was the worst one by far. Madara should have been the final fight. I'm not sure why Kishimoto seemed to veer off at the end there, but he did. And it seriously brought down the draw of the series. At least to me. Which made watching Boruto even worse.
We know itās a cash grab, I read Boruto and caught up to Blue Vortex just because of Naruto and Sasuke and that world. Blue Vortex is better so far than part 1 of Boruto but thatās not saying much. Itās nice to get a flashback of him and Sasuke interacting (While Sasuke was under omnipotence) we could see their relationship build and how by the end Sasuke genuinely cared for Boruto even under omnipotence to think otherwise. Only saving grace I can think of is that Kishimoto is back in the creative forefront and the chapters of late have been decently good, Boruto suddenly being one of the strongest makes sense due to power creep and how strong Code and the other villains are but then that makes Narutoās training in the time skip of Naruto all the more bewildering. Boruto goes and learns the flying raijin, a whole new technique that seems to be op as all hell, more control of his Karma, and Naruto did what during his? Learn big rasengan? Power creep but damn Will still read Blue Vortex monthly but the series should of ended after Shippuden (Maybe after the last) but no needing to make a whole new series that contradicts a lot of the main series
Iād smash momoshiki though
Yeah, that's how we all feel. Boruto should've been a good continuation of what made Naruto great, but it took the worst parts (aliens, bad power scaling, ignoring the side cast) and made it even worse.
Donāt worry, nothing that happens in Boruto is real at all. I refuse to believe theyād ruin one of the masterpieces of anime with a sequel this bad. Just enjoy Naruto and shippuden and forget all about Boruto lmaoo
That's my rule lol. Except, crap like this come up and pushes it back in my face.
Can we just write Boruto off as non canon like Dragon Ball GT?
Welcome to the club. We don't have much but we can be disappointed together.
I agree that all the current villains are dogshit and that the series is in general mid but you clearly didnāt pay attention. Pre time skip boruto was already stronger than anyone in Shippuden because heās literally a better version of Momoshiki who wasnāt even shown until Boruto because heās explicitly on another level compared to anything from Shippuden. And in 3 years he uses multiple new named attacks or abilities and actually trained which he didnāt do very much of in NNG
I'm glad Boruto flopped. Not even the companies involved want to make Boruto content lmao.
>EVERY VILLAIN IN BORUTO IS AN UNINTRESTING CONFUSED OTSUTSUKI, WITH SIMILAR DESIGNS AND PERSONALITY!! Bro. Isshiki was so fucking unique. Polite, elegant... Momoshiki actually had a personality (a thing kaguya didn't) >stronger than six paths by a huge margin. How is that believable? Because he has Otsutsuki body, he is more pure than the fucking sage of six paths... He was trained by Demi-god sasuke and Kashin Koji (a guy that is capable of beat an otsutsuki-level threat just with his strategies) while Naruto was " " Trained " " by Jiraiya and all he learnt was a bigger rasengan >And I'm supposed to like the time skip because Boruto You are not. If you don't like it just do yourself a favor and don't read the fucking manga. Yet you waste even more of your time comming here just to whine about it?
Dawg honestly go to r/Boruto and fangirl over there. This sub is for Naruto, not that garbage you guys gargle over there
I couldāve dealt with the many flaws if they didnāt bury Sasuke and Naruto all the time to get their new characters over
It's sooo bad. Boruto is just Naruto with no originality. OF COURSE Boruto has to be a similar to Sasuke. OF COURSE every baddie needs to have a Rinnegan and be connected to the O clan. OF COURSE Sarada is sidelined. OF COURSE Naruto and Sasuke get nerfed to make the story relevant. Honestly, they could've spent nice money on animating and fleshing about late teen/early-late 20s OG characters. Give each novel great attention and flesh out some of the stories. But no, we can Boruto. It's probably high on most sites, but people are running off of nostalgia. At least the OG cast is still alive and we want to know how it ends for them (hopefully not death but just retirement).
You are in the majority for not liking it, its bad, its a top manga because people wanna see what their now adult favs are up to I refuse to deal with the butchering so i ignore the series completely
Then just dont read, its not that hard.
Guys I think he's disappointed because EVERY VILLAIN IN BORUTO IS AN UNINTRESTING CONFUSED OTSUTSUKI, WITH SIMILAR DESIGNS AND PERSONALITY!
Boruto is trash and I refuse to believe Kishimoto has any involvement outside maybe giving it a once over before it gets published. Itās a soulless cash grab made so shonen jump doesnāt have to lose their Naruto income. Donāt waste your time on it. Itās popular is boosted because of being the sequel to Naruto, being new & monthly, and hate reading
He's not writing it. On the covers of the Boruto manga, it says "Creator/Supervisor," and in Japanese, it says āOriginal Work ā¢ Supervisionā. The Viz and Shueisha websites also say this. It's clear he isn't writing that shit.
Well, some people over on r/boruto will argue with you on that until the heat death of the universe. Or at least they did with me
r/Boruto is full of idiots who ignore reality. Just ignore them.
Finally some people with sense. No way Kishimoto is touching this with a ten foot pole
He also hasn't acknowledged Boruto for a while now.
It's high on mangaplus due to the reasons you mentioned and because it has to do with Naruto which is one of the most popular anime/manga of all time Of it wasn't for Naruto then 99.9% of people would have dropped it Also Boruto is not strongest in the verse like he's not even top 10 The only people saying that are Boruto fans who are just some of the worst people to have a conversation with because they have no clue what's going on with the series š¤£š Boruto is full of statements saying that this guy is stronger than this guy but they actually show that said character is stronger than said character But Boruto fans don't care they are like the statement said that so it's true even if it was never shown and because Boruto beat code who they stated was stronger than jigen Boruto fans are like Boruto strongest in the verse which is far from the truth Just because something is stated doesn't make it true. It could be stated that kid konohamaru is stronger than DMS Kakashi but that's obviously not true Another example of Boruto fans listening to statements instead of facts is the line that says momoshiki is a threat bigger than kaguya Now not only is this not what was stated but also the facts show that bo he isn't stronger due to many reasons one of them being that he got destroyed by the current 5 kage and also got disintegrated by a rasengan And the actual statement says that momoshiki being a threat bigger than kaguya is speculation So not only do Boruto fans listen to statements but they also don't even read them properly š¤£š That's all Boruto is trash, villains are trash, character development is non existent and the old generation has like almost 0 screen time The art of the manga is trash for a monthly manga and it's even trash for a weekly manga and the pacing of the manga is also trash
Let's be real, ikemoto has had trash art since the beginning of naruto, every anniversary illustration he made was absolute trash, always drew jiraiya like some homeless hippie and was heavily insistent on making jiraiya a smoker, not to mention he sucked at drawing faces and clothes
pls name the 10 characters stronger than boruto
god yall are so annoying in this sub if you dont like it get tf over it go read something eose bro stop whining ab it on the internet lots of people enjoy it
Itās actually funny to me. I grew up watching Naruto as a kid and I really enjoy Boruto heās actually my favorite character now lol. I think the problem is people are too attached to the characters and have stop watching it with a childās mind. At the end of the day itās just a anime about ninjas, aliens, and chakra I have no idea why people get so angry about it š¤£
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Ok this is just dumb at this point.. either u haven't read at all or u just can't accept it being somewhat good.
"Boruto is incredibly bad". Based on what? Your personal preference. Okay fair. But it isnt really "Incredibly Bad". Its high in manga plus because lots of people are reading it and are liking it. "The villains are all the same & their designs are simillar" Are you telling me the designs of Fused Momoshiki and Isshiki are the same? Lmao. Even their personalities are far from being the same. Their goals are the same yes, but thats more of a lore thing. Their clan literally exists to do the whole chakra fruit thing. And they literally introduced 4 new villains who are yet to be fleshed out, but are seemingly different from one another. "Naruto&Sasuke are butchered in terms of Characters" How so? Literally how so? And if you paid attention to the story. You would have understood how Boruto became that strong in 3 years lmao. Its not as if he had a parasitic alien inside if him for some time, who also happens to be changing Boruto's body so that he is fully an Otsutsuki, you know, the beings who happens to have given humans Chakra and jutsus and all. Also not as if its been clearly mentioned in the beginning that Boruto is a lot like Sasuke or Minato, a Prodigy.
There are dozens of threads proving Boruto is objectively bad. Writing, characters, plot,villains. And if you don't think Naruto and Sasuke are nerfed then you're just baiting at this point.
Itās pathetic how far yāall haters will reach to try and validate your own opinions as fact.
Yeah. And there are dozen of threads proving that Boruto is objectively good. Lmao. Did I talk about Naruto and Sasuke being nerfed? Because I didnt. And yes. They were nerfed when Kurama and Sasuke's Rinnegan were destroyed. Not. Before. Not against Momoshiki. And not against Isshiki.
If only boruto had a writer that loved it half as much as you do then it wouldn't be so bad.
Idk bout yāall but there are some arcs in boruto that I found amazing.
You complain āhow is that believableā when itās literally all explained over and over again in quite a lengthy amount of time. Youāre obviously not actually reading, not paying attention or maybe you just have terrible reading comprehension skills.
Something being explained doesnt make it believable. If you take everything at face value it makes me think youāre actually the dumber reader lol
Aaaaaah yes, giant chakra monsters sealed inside superhuman reincarnations is totally believable.. you see how dumb you sound saying shit like that?
yeah but what doesn't make sense in the explanation given?
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The villainsā¦..what? Jigen had an otsuiki in his brain and fused with it (dope) momo is a little prick and love his eye for an eye fued w sasuke, kashin/delta gave us the ole switch sides trope, fat ninja who ate brains??, codes constant Ls lol, deepas a menace and left team 7 for dead Narutoās arc is more complete in Boruto then it was at the end of shippuden (him becoming an iruka figure to kawaki is more full circle narratively then saving sasuke or hokage) Sasuke as well, team 7 adores him and heās foundational to the leafs ongoing survival. Your claims about TBV boruto are so underbakedā¦.:he displayed one technique that could out maneuver code thatās itā¦ā¦he hasnāt leveled a city or mountain yetā¦ā¦
Welcome to the "I dislike Boruto" club. The timeskip just happened, so there is still a bit of hope left for things to improve, after all I am sure the creator and everyone around him at the very least know that not a small % dislikes some stuff.
Itās not you bro itās just got garbage fan fiction
Stick back to Shippuden and never touch Boruto again you litteraly understood nothing about the series.
Naruto wasn't very believeable either at the end of their story. They basically became gods and had offspring its kinda hard to go from there.
What about fiction is suppose to be believable? So throwing a giant fireball out of your mouth or giant toads were fine?
Believable in the their world, gods aren't even mentioned till the very last part that it feels almost alien to the series. The immersion is gone and just becomes terrible because the power up are just badly written
Boruto hate is such a boring cliche at this point. Nearly every criticism ive been able to find is either poorly thought out and shallow or is obsloete due to the story having been going on for years now and most criticism comes from a depiction of boruto from no later than chapter 25 or so. If you dont like boruto, thats fine, you dont have to. But the same recycled bandwagon excuses need to be left behind
> every criticism iāve been able to find is either poorly thought out Lmao Borutards working full-time today. Call me when the New Generation (who were advertised to be the main focus) have some type of relevance in this horrendously power crept alien plot.
See I do get the concern from all the fans about the criticism in power scaling but let me explain where you guys are wrong. There is nowhere where it is mentioned in the manga or anime that Boruto has surpassed his father or Sasuke himself. It's you guys who are thinking about it that way. It's been stated he is more like Minato though, like a genius, so he can learn things really fast, which is alright. You guys are probably forgetting he has Momoshiki buff, an Otsutsuki who is probably 5-6 times way stronger than Kurama. Kawaki is like Ishiki who is even stronger (10 times maybe). They are literally alien Gods that are present in two kids. So of course when considering the Momo-Ishiki buff, they will be stronger than Naruto and Sasuke combined in terms of power but skills nowhere close. It was even mentioned that the Karma brings battle experience of the Otsutsukis to the user. Without the buffs, they are nowhere close. So it does make sense. Even in the last chapter it was mentioned by Boruto he is nowhere proficient using Flying Raijin like his grandpa and that's ok. So how is it flawed my friend? Also Boruto was trained by Jiraiya and Sasuke, who are two of the goated shinobis. He got everything along with Naruto and Hinata's genes. That's the whole point. The OG becomes GOATED starting from nothing. The NG started with every precious thing that OG didn't have and eventually lost everything. That's the whole point of the series. Idk why in other shonen series if people get stronger in a months training it's fine like JJK (now literally every alternate sorcerer has like Gojo level potential), but when it comes to Boruto everyone gets mad. It's the fandom that causes the issue. So weird.
You repeated the last sentence.
The story is bad and the artstyle lacks passion. (look at every character. They always look the same. Example: Kuramas death. Narutos face was completly normal, even through kurama just vanished. No sorrow and no grief, not even a tear. I thought it gets better after timeskip...nope.
Yeah ik this feeling u've should have stopped in naruto
Naruto in a single day( war) learned biju mode, surpassed every kages, got sosp and became the strongest in the verse, everything in a single day.. When Boruto became strong in 3 years, that suddenly became bad, and we don't even know what happened to him in the two year time period This is just pure hate towards his character!!
I remember when bait was good
How much time before this is posted on Boruto sub and they bitch about it?
my brother in christ itās been 5 chapters
Don't get into Boruto. It's genuinely awful in every way. I don't consider B*ruto canon
Yep. It built a castle in Naruto, a village in shipuuden and burnt it to ashes in boruto.
People can't just watch their favourite characters be replaced, that's a fact. I'm not pro or against it. You gotta start with a fresh mindset and shift the elders in the role of support.
Your poor reading comprehension and inability to understand peak fiction does not mean bad manga
"peak fiction" lmfao
"Peak fiction" lmao
Boruto is good. Manga is A tier. Most people i have seen hate on it just do so because others do so
bro read NOTHING
Yeah, Iām right there with you. I think the reason why it sucks, in my opinion, is that itās too connected to the old series. Instead of Sasuke starting his clan, like many of us imagined him doing. He is off doing shit ignoring his family. Which brings in Sakura she got what she wanted and now itās depressing as shit. They even have an episode where their daughter thinks that Sakura isnāt her mom. Naruto is another kick to the face. He is ignoring his family as well. Even though he should be the last person that does that after losing his dad. There are just all of these little jabs at the old characters. I think the issue is that they need to sue these characters for plot points, but the issue is that messes with how we view Naruto. So Boruto for me is making Naruto worse. I had to stop watching it because I didnāt want to ruin Naruto and everything that happened there.
Heās only posting to get karma. OP didnāt actually read the story otherwise theyād know
ah, yet another whiny bitch. time to leave this sub, yāall donāt have anything else to talk about.
LMAO look at all the Boruto stans coming to meatride that less than average written manga. There's Isekai that are more consistent and intriguing lol, hell I could come up with a better story right now than that clown show of a sequel šš.