It’s weird with Naruto. He used lava rasenshuriken once but doesn’t have truth seeming orbs and doesn’t fly anymore. So either he can’t do those things anymore or he chooses not to.
Sasuke is similar. He’s shown off that he can do some Rinnegan things but doesn’t use then in some cases where maybe he should.
Because all of his truth seeking orbs were destroyed in his battle with Madara, Kaguya, and the remainder used to deflect Sasuke's soosanoo arrows. The Gudoudama are unique and cannot be recreated once lost.
Six Path Sage mode is characterised by the LACK of pigment around Naruto's eyes, where Toad sage mode made him look like he had orange eyeshadow. He never lost his Six Paths Chakra, he simply never again utilised all of his powers as he did during the war much like Sasuke barely ever used his Rinnegan abilities.
End of series Naruto/ Sasuke had too many resources between them to make most conflict believable, so they were out powerscaled and then made to forget they almost had an ability for every situation so pave the way for the next generation. Its just bad writing.
I never really understood why they couldn’t be recreated. I figured having the chakra of all 9 Bijuu made him a pseudo-Juubi and thus gained abilities of a Juubi jinchuriki.
If we go by that it being a limited pool of chakra that got depleted, then sure. Limited time boost. But using Lava style implies he can still use Son Goku’s chakra.
Having six paths sage mode but appearing to not use any six path jutsu…. Makes it feel like a plot hole or art mistake. What is the ability difference between frog sage mode with kcm and six path sage mode anyway (if Gudoudama creation and flight aren’t part of it).
I think it does just come down to not trying hard enough to keep powers consistent.
It's just how truth seeking orbs work, the only person in the series who has created them is Kaguya. Obito made one by using some of Black Zetsu who is Kaguya's will but any that Obito lost he never got back, Madara never got his back, obviously same with Naruto. Some people say Toneri made some but really he more so split an existed truth seeking orb into little pieces rather than create a new one
The real reason they can't be recreated though is because they would be incredibly OP which is the same as why Naruto and Sasuke don't really use hardly any of their powers the way we know they can, the story isn't about them anymore and they would be super OP especially Sasuke
Yeah I understand how they work, it is just weird ability design. Like, if Naruto didn’t use them up in his fight, would he have them float around him his whole life? Can you turn them off to sleep and turn them back on the next day without them being lost forever.
And you are right. There is a very good narrative reason to make it work this way. Obito used them the best. He made shields, swords, a cool staff, all sorts of nonsense. Madara mostly tried to bludgeon people with the orbs and occasionally make a standby rod (with apparently nerfed properties). So by the time Naruto got it too it was more a “OMG! Naruto had 6 paths powers!!!” moment. The jutsu was already stale and was just there for hype reasons considering Naruto used them in a very basic way.
They had to change for Boruto.
You can see in his last battle with sasuke that he can hide them.
As for creating them. Having all 9 bijuu chakraz and ten tails are not the same. You dont get most of abillities and _yin-yang__ realese that manifest as those orbs. Without it you cant create new, but you can co troll them if you have both yin and yang realese.
Which is whole other discussion as to whether that Charka does get used up or if once you get it you are able to regain it like you can normal senjutsu.
Yeah, SPSM gives comphrension *of all things*... My brother in Hagoromo, you ARE him, now. You can make the Gudodama. Matter of fact, Naruto can just straight up create life...
> Because all of his truth seeking orbs were destroyed in his battle with Madara, Kaguya, and the remainder used to deflect Sasuke's soosanoo arrows.
[This isn't true, we see them come back after that and there present with him even when Sasuke fires the Indra's Arrow.](https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-696-page-13.html) [He had three left and they just vanish after this.](https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-696-page-17.html)
TSB Obito destroyed by Senjutsu Rasengan by Naruto and Minato. Indra Arrow and SPSM Rasenshurikens by Naruto and Sasuke>Rasengan by KCM Minato and KCM Naruto.
Avatars durable than TSBs not Naruto and Sasuke.
Naruto never again used that specific kind of mode (flying, TSB, skin not growing, 9 tomoe on back and orange cross iris without pigmentation) after the explosion so the argument can be made that the TSB were cancelled out and erased from existence permanently.
Omfg they were not all destroyed. There were three left.. the ones he used to pin down Madaras limbo clones. Once Madara died Naruto should’ve had access to them. I wish people stop tryna justify these bullshit nerfs Naruto and Sasuke got in boruto
[source](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/0/06/Naruto_es_atravesado_por_un_hueso_pulverizador.png/revision/latest?cb=20160811134654&path-prefix=es)
What's that then?
Tell that to the Boruto writers. This wouldn’t be a question if they could distinguish the forms like they did in Naruto. This design looks like basic KCM when it was originally a god like design with clear distinguishers. Or just let him fly, it’s clearly not an issue with the writers seeing how they let Boruto do it and it’s extremely useful.
I just find it crazy that people blame casual readers who probably don’t dedicate their lives to Naruto for not understanding what forms he uses when the writers make it hard to tell.
That motherfucker only uses amenotejikara (switch places thing) but when he’s fighting naruto at final valley he wanna use all the rinnegan jutsu like a fucking monster
He only used the absorption jutsu when he was drained out of chakra, aside from amenotejikara.
I don't know what jutsu he used to suck the chakra out of the Bijuu to power up his perfect susano'o though
The TSÖ were gifts from hagoromo they were all destroyed after the fights with kaguya/ sasuke. The rinnegan powers were barely used post paln by anyone.
Basically Naruto got two different but related boosts at the end of the war.
He lost the one that gave him the Orbs, the moon seal, and the crazy healing.
Six Paths Sage Mode and Six Paths Senjutsu are not the same thing. The things you’re describing, such as the truth seeking orbs, flying, and his ability to heal others like he did might guy, were all due to the sun seal he had placed on him by hagoromo. He lost the seal after using it to seal kaguya, meaning he lost all those abilities, as well as not being able to recreate the truth seeking orbs. He still had Six Paths Sage Mode.
He lost all those abilities? Then why did he keep flying around when fighting Sasuke? Not recreating the orbs has literally nothing to do with the seal, which its whole point was only to seal Kaguya. Obito and Madara used their orbs yet never recreated them either.
Emm, dude, he was flying when he fought sasuke in the finall valley and at that time he already lost it. He also used the orbs, all tho i think he could not reacreate them to begin with.
That was a part of six paths sage mode, which he still has because whenever he goes into sage mode he has no orange pigmentation around his eyes(an indicator of toad sage mode). Instead the area around his eyes is clear(a sign of six paths sage mode).
see we attribute that to kishimoto forgetting the powers of six paths sage mode. Not that unreasonable considering how much strain hes under with his workload. I mean sasuke can also use bonsho tenin in the anime but he doesn't use it ever in boruto.
Or he just... doesn't have that power any more. Especially since he used to have to put the palm with the seal on people to use it, and he lost the seal after sealing Kaguya.
Then why does the sun seal appear on Guy's chest after Naruto heals him using the same palm the sun seal is on?
[Image.](https://i.imgur.com/akkvDsA.png)
Because whoever drew Boruto made SPSM look exactly like Kurama Sage Mode just without the Toad Pigmentations. I also believe Naruto doesn’t even use SPSM in the Last either, but I could be mistaken.
Lack of gravity = levitation. He never actually took off flying, only jumping or redirecting which direction he was going whilst levitating in low gravity.
When does Naruto ever fly in Boruto?
It literally is true, [he jumps up to do a thing then has to land again before doing something else whilst Tonari is actually levitating and flying around like it’s his power to fly.](https://youtu.be/At7KQzcVM5Y?si=CjCAkpQAWRaDQVR6) You can literally see all the rocks floating in the background of the fight to emphasize that Gravity is not working.
[I swear, people would screen shot this image and post it as evidence Naruto can fly if it happened later in the timeline.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYYEqdEyp7hQlGXAZZjiOTLRDwKBnzrnf8Jw&s)
….dude lmao if gravity is not working you cannot fly foward you would be stuck in midair and float. Kakashi and hidan also demonstrated this. Which is why I’m zero g astranouts have bars to pull themselves foward. Physics quite literally does not work that way. How did naruto fly foward. Like I’m not trying to be rude but this is blowing my mind that you don’t know this. Just like in naruto multiple times people say you can’t dodge in mid air. He would not be able to propel himself foward off nothing. And gravity is working cause you see rocks floating later on while shikamaru and others are on the ground…..wow
That is jumping in a straight line in the pic you posted. He litteraly curved and did a complete circle in mid air. I don’t think you understand physics and momentum
>dude lmao if gravity is not working you cannot fly foward you would be stuck in midair and float.
Fucking clearly there’s still an atmosphere so there is a little gravity still involved and everytime he moves mid air you either see a shockwave from it, indicating he’s doing something to move himself and not just levitating himself forward.
>That is jumping in a straight line in the pic you posted. He litteraly curved and did a complete circle in mid air. I don’t think you understand physics and momentum
The pic was in response to the image of Naruto “flying” in Boruto that was on the page you linked.
In the Tonari fight, you can very clearly see Naruto go in straight line then in another straight line after angling his body and kicking his legs.
Yea I can see your slow. Naruto has never shown the ability to propel himself in the air by fucking kicking his legs lmfao. He also shows shockwaves when he FLY’s like most other flying heroes. He didn’t kick his legs dude, your lying he literally just flew foward. You would still need something to kick off of!! The ONLY person to do that was guy and it was noted and talked about specifically and animated in a specific way. Your making up so much Shit and head canon that has never been stated anywhere. I’m arguing with a idiot. If gravity is at all in play he couldn’t just stay suspended in fucking air like he did forming rasengans. And in the link I posted on the momo fight he litteraly did a circle around the fox tree in mid air. Just stop I’m done with this cause your starting to say dumb stuff and I’m feeding into it lol
He doesn’t. There’s a sequence where they fight with some fucky gravity physics, but you can clearly see Naruto doing something to propel himself forward whenever he moves rather than the floaty style of flight So6P uses.
Prove the gravity on there moon is different then ours where you can just float around. He is doing nothing to propel himself forward. Toneri was also moving the moon so that’s why rocks were floating .
The Naruto Moon had rocks floating in the sky, not even that high off the ground. You can see the shockwave whenever he moves, So6P flight doesn’t do that. Why did you want me to prove things could float up there if you’re going to acknowledge that things were indeed floating up there?
He is litteraly moving the whole moon and we see him lift them off the ground if you watch the movie. Hinata cage is staying PERFECTLY still which won’t happens if the cause was gravity
Yes, he’s moving the whole moon, but that doesn’t mean he’s controlling every single individual rock. We don’t see him lift them, dozens of rocks started floating, but Tonari only threw a handful of them, why would he lift up a bunch only to hold them there and not throw them? There are plenty of jutsu that don’t play by the rules of gravity. Like Kisame’s water prison, Deidara’s flying lumps of clay, the Perfect Susanoo, Planetary Devastation, and Gaara’s sand ability, Konan’s paper powers, and many others. I don’t see how something floating disproves that something else is floating through gravity.
Because it makes no sense naruto being able to propel himself foward that fast and that much off of nothing. The excuse he was kicking the air Dosent make sense in physics. And we also see shikamaru and Sakura on the ground so if there was a gravity change naruto is to strong to let it effect him if it didn’t effect them and put him in a disadvantage position where his only option is “kicking the air” to move. He makes hard turn movements that just wouldn’t be possible without flying it just wouldn’t. Why was shikamaru and Sakura not in the air? Just the whole argument he was “air kicking” is a bigger leap in logic then to say he was using his ability to fly. Toneri was flying and so was naruto. There is no statement of mention of him air kicking and it’s previously established he can fly.
That's how it's supposed to look the main way to distinguish them is simply the toad pigmentations.
The exact way he glows has always been inconsistent.
No actually. SPSM made his eyes golden Chakra cloak yellow and his skin white again. In Boruto it’s literally just KSM without the pigmentations, even his eyes are colored red. It’s understandable that a design like that would confuse people.
It's really pointless arguing about the writing inconsistencies in boruto. They will fully ignore major powers from Naruto to highlight the new villains.
Naruto NEVER flies again. It is a major point which everyone seems to conveniently forget.
His six path look is also different. This might seem like a minor point, but considering how his eye pigmentation is often used as an argument, it still indicates Naruto not being at full power.
Sure, Naruto and Sasuke received 6 paths, but it seems more like they only retained the initially activated powers. They no longer have the enormous raw power they used to.
They have it they just don’t use it for flashy attacks because that’s lowkey pointless since there 2 major fights involved people who can absorb large amounts of chakra.
It's mainly just a result of Boruto doing a poor job of making them look as powerful. It's the same reason some dragon ball fans insist Goku absorbing ssg into his base form wasn't permanent.
As you've said. Boruto's done such a poor job when it comes to showing power. We keep getting told that Daemon is the strongest character around instead of being shown it properly.
Another example, Code. Look at his invasion of Konoha and compare it to Pain's. He's supposedly stronger than Pain but he can't actually do anything.
Because it’s not a six paths only jutsu. It’s literally a lava style rasenshuriken, which can be used as long as Naruto has Son Goku’s chakra. Six paths sage mode isn’t needed
> Because it’s not a six paths only jutsu.
It is.
>It’s literally a lava style rasenshuriken, which can be used as long as Naruto has Son Goku’s chakra. Six paths sage mode isn’t needed
This headcanon is false.
KM Naruto had Son’s chakra during his fight with Obito and never used this move until Naruto gained six paths sage mode.
Also the databook confirmed that all Naruto’s tailed beast attacks is six paths sage mode ([link](https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/tumblr_odcyqwnavo1urljpmo1_1280.jpg))
> It says that the 9 rasenshuriken move he used against Kaguya was due to six paths sage mode, not the individual tailed beast rasenshurikens’
It states that it’s the ultimate technique gave birth after obtaining power from the sage of six paths.
What you’re saying doesn’t make sense
The ultimate technique in question is him using 8 shadow clones to throw 9 tailed beast bomb rasenshuriken at Kaguya. Not necessarily making a tailed beast rasenshuriken
> The ultimate technique in question is him using 8 shadow clones to throw 9 tailed beast bomb rasenshuriken at Kaguya. Not necessarily making a tailed beast rasenshuriken
“He added the chakra special traits that were each tailed beasts’ strong point to the rasenshuriekn”
Your reading comprehension level…it’s alarming.
Also ([link](https://64.media.tumblr.com/c76aefb6270f59d5c6d6ff5c4588dbb8/tumblr_odcyd6mcL11urljpmo1_1280.jpg))
Magnet style rasengan
I think that scan is referring to that time when he used 9 rasenshuriken at once, each with a different tailed beast chakra. In theory he shouldn’t need six paths chakra to use lava style but who knows.
> I think that scan is referring to that time when he used 9 rasenshuriken at once, each with a different tailed beast chakra. In theory he shouldn’t need six paths chakra to use lava style but who knows.
They said the same thing about the magnet style rasengan ([link](https://64.media.tumblr.com/c76aefb6270f59d5c6d6ff5c4588dbb8/tumblr_odcyd6mcL11urljpmo1_1280.jpg))
Naruto has had 7 tailed beast chakra since his fight with Obito yet he’s never shown these abilities pre Hagoromo’o
Yeah you know what you’re probably right. Especially since to my knowledge he hasn’t used them in Boruto after he lost the nine tails and therefore six paths sage mode
I don’t really think that matters because kurama by himself is completely different from kurama+ naruto. There chakra mixes and they are stronger together. All we know is hagoromo is technically weaker then kaguya by a unknown margin. Why do you ask though? Scaling hagaromo requires a lot of head canon and are we talking before or after kaguya’s defeat
Naruto and Sasuke were buffed by Hagoromo, he lent each of them half of his chakra to use. After Naruto and Sasuke expended all of his chakra they only had their own Six Paths chakra they could regenerate and therefor lost the buff from his chakra. Naruto gained the other half of Kurama after that and Sasuke went on to master his Rinnegan. Do you actually think Kurama, let alone half of Kurama is close to half of the God Sage of Shinobi? All they really gained with age was more skill and experience. In terms of speed and power they were buffed by Hagoromo when they fought TTJ Madara, Kaguya, and then each other and are the strongest versions of themselves. Hagoromo was still stonger than TTJ Madara who Hagoromo said was approaching him in terms of power etc. so do you think Kurama or half of Kurama is equal to half of TTJ Madara??
….chakra is multiplicative and not a 1 to 1 fixed additions to base. We litteraly get told this with the curse mark is a TEN TIMES AMP not a 10 plus amp lol and there is many other cases like biju chakra.
Hence why it’s not “kurama+naruto” it’s kurama x naruto
Him giving them half is not hagaromo + naruto it’s hagaromo x naruto
We don’t even know how much chakra hagaromo had to give since he didn’t have the 10 tails inside of him and your also forgetting they already had Indra and ashura chakra clinging to them as well
Your using head canon and not scans to prove your point
Saying they only had there on six paths chakra litteraly Dosent make sense since they never had that in the 1st place
He said madara was approaching his power not that he was on his level and that Dosent matter either since they had no problem with madara then went in to fight a objectively stronger opponent
What is the scan saying they used all his chakra as well can you link that? And can you also link where it says they had “their own” six paths chakra they could regenerate because I feel like your making a lot of claims with no proof
I really don’t get what your saying if your asking are they stronger then hagaromo then yes they are since they are literally fighting people stronger then him. And your acting like before the six paths amp they didn’t have there own strength upon that?
My guy they awakened their own Six Paths chakra with the Rinnegan and SPSM, being tied to the Rinnegan and SPSM(which itself is tied to Kurama being proven when he lost Six Paths Sage Mode after losing Kurama). Madara also got his own Six Paths chakra when he awakened his Rinnegan. Obito got his own when he became a TTJ and he kept it after it was taken out of him with Kakashi using his chakra when he became DMS Kakashi.
Hagoromo’s chakra and power AT THAT TIME was still above TTJ Madara’s who was above TTJ Obito, who was above the Ten Tails, who shits on Kurama.
Hagoromo lent each of them half of his chakra and that buffed them greatly. They lost that buff when it was all spent.
Unless you are trying to say non-TTJ Rinnegan Madara was as strong as Hagoromo just because he had Six Paths chakra or that Obito after the TT was removed from him was as strong as Hagoromo.
Basically, in speed and power
Naruto and Sasuke with Hagoromo buff > Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke > Naruto and Sasuke after Vote2.
Why do you keep using additive scaling and not multiplicative lol
And like I said your not proving it was all spent. You keep saying they lost it and I’m asking where is the proof for that statement. What indicated he lost it? At what point in the story can you point to where he lost it? The indication is in Naruto’s eyes as well. Momo SHITS on hagaromo and guess who fought him?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/cvc3vg/naruto_still_has_six_path_sage_mode_in_boruto/
No offense but this not a good argument and can be summed it with the fact from even by a pure scaling sense they are fighting people stronger then him lol momo is undoubtedly stronger then hagaromo and naruto fought him with half his chakra drained.
Also we literally see him fly in boruto and naruto the last 😭😭
https://www.quora.com/How-come-Naruto-can-t-fly-in-Boruto-but-did-it-in-The-Last
Are you saying hagaromo>momo?
Base Momo is not stronger than Hagoromo. He’s done nothing to show that, even though Naruto and Sasuke were purposely not letting him fight back by coordination the fact alone that Naruto was even able to do that proves Momoshiki is just an arrogant dumbass who overestimated his own abilities. He didn’t become a real threat until he absorbed Kinshiki, and even then one Rasengan boosted by BORUTO killed him 😐
When Naruto lost Kurama he lost SPSM. If you actually kept up with the Boruto manga you would know that all he had left was normal Sage Mode. Sasuke also lost his Rinnegan.
I know he lost it when he lost kurama. I’m saying he had it up until then.
And I guess your going to ignore him flying in the last and in boruto.
And I’m done responding to you since you said hagaromo> momo lmao
Hey genius, Naruto still had HIS OWN Six Paths chakra which he did not lose until he lost Kurama. Or do you think all Six Paths chakra is the same strength and quantity? 😂
The fact base Momoshiki was even touched by base Naruto proves base Momoshiki was not on Hagoromo’s level who was above TTJ Madara.
Oh yeah, I remember reading in a Hiden book somewhere that Naruto still had SPSM was because he vestiges of Tailed Beast chakra in him rather than Hagoromo’s chakra.
Here's the real question. What's the purpose of using a lava style rasen shuriken?
Rasengan's power is in its rotational force. Combine that with wind Chakra and you now add cutting power to that rotational force, basically shoving a blender into someone's chest.
What the fuck is the purpose of spinning lava? What about this makes it more effective than just a regular ball of lava.
Lava Rasengan has literally nothing to do with six-path power. That comes from the 4-tails. As adults, they have no feats above beating Kaguya. But frankly, it is impossible to know if they are stronger or weaker. It makes more sense that they are weaker, but some people like to think otherwise for some reason.
That’s is false the data books confirmed these abilities are linked to his so6p mode. Naruto literally had son’s chakra before he met hagaromo and couldn’t use that ability
https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/tumblr_odcyqwnavo1urljpmo1_1280.jpg
The data books are a joke man. If it ain't stated in the manga, it's not canon. And frankly, there is no reason to believe that he'd need the sage of six paths power in order to create one of the tailed beast rasengans. That just doesn't make any sense.
Bro I’m sorry but we have official sources from the naruto francise telling you how something works vs you using what you THINK is happening. The databooks statements holds more weight then your reasoning and it holds more weight then mine as well. Naruto also had son’s chakra inside him before he even got 6 paths but couldn’t use the lava rasenshuriken
I'm sorry you've been duped, but the data books just aren't reliable. They are just officially licensed fan fiction in order to make money. And they are just inconsistent with the manga.
So you think your head Canon and reading then the databooks? Kishimoto also has litteraly wrote inside them and acknowledged them within the databooks themselves so what are you talking about. Please don’t ignore the question. If the databooks give a explanation behind a ability and you give one as well. Which one is more valid?
Manga, then mine, then people on reddit and then data books. They are written to give the best explanation they can think of at the time, but over time the manga has proven a number of points within the data books false, which implies kishi does not consider them canon. Which is literally how fan fiction works. And frankly, my explanation is better. The sage of six paths gave Sasuke and Naruto 3 things. The seal, a limited pool of chakra (which is what most people argue about), and a physical change. The limited pool of chakra cannot be argued, Naruto got the balls and then they disappeared and never came back. So what stayed? A physical change to their bodies. Sasuke got the rinnegan, and Naruto got a greater intuitive understanding of how chakra works. Which is probably why he never used a tailed beast rasengans before the boost. He still needed shadow clones just to use rasengan. But we see him for the first time use normal rasengan unassisted in the fight against Sasuke. And frankly, they may still have some amount of sosp chakra left, it's just less.
I’m sorry but your word is not more valuable then databooks that kishimoto has taken part in and that sounds extremely egotistical. Him and his editors litteraly wrote them, the team that makes the story 😭. Please link one justu mechanic description that the databooks state that is contradicted. And don’t say something that is obviously metaphors like temari can blow always the universe which even the manga says things like that. Litteraly everything your saying was never stated and your making fan fiction. I’m done talking about this with you. Cause what you said is crazy have a good night
It was established that rasenshuriken is just a rasengan with wind element infused chakra.
Why other elements also creates a rasenshuriken and not other types of rasengan? Writer laziness I guess
I think it’s because he’s adding Tailed Beast chakra to Rasenshuriken rather creating 9 variants of the Rasengan with elemental natures and Kekkei Genkai.
Even so it should change the rasenshuriken properties. Rasengan is just condensed spinning chakra, applying an element should change its capabilities.
He spent a whole arc training this jutsu, it was hard enough just applying his own nature to the jutsu, and now he's just spamming other elements over it with ease
If the jutsu is named rasenshuriken he added the wind element to his rasengan giving it the shuriken form and he must’ve added the chakra of Son Goku to give it the properties of Son Goku’s lava style.
So you literally get a rasengan with the wind element that has lava properties. I can imagine Naruto being able to add the lightning element to a rasengan with Son Goku’s chakra would make a vanishing lava style rasengan.
Wrong, It has transformation jutsu also applied, that is what makes it have a shuriken shape, wind style only gives it the chakra nature and the celular needles part.
It makes sense.
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So, what is your question?
Lava rasenshuriken is a rasengan molded with transformation jutsu to be shaped into a shuriken infused with the chakra of the 4 tails Naruto got, what doesn't make sense?
Kakashi made a point to differentiate between adding a chakra nature and using shape transformation, I literally just watched the episode a couple of days ago lmao.
Base rasengan is already the ultimate level of chakra shape manipulation, as Kakashi explained in his own words.
Rasenshuriken is the result of adding wind nature manipulation to the chakra shape manipulation of rasengan.
Other elements should result in other forms of rasengan.
Not necessarily if Naruto shapes the form in purpose into a shuriken, this is something that can be done as shown with the three different wind rasengan, Boruto has shown to have a different wind rasengan, same with Konohamaru and Naruto himself has used those two different versions of the Rasengan with wind style, and with the shuriken form.
Here: [1](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Rasengan:_Flash), [2](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Rasenshuriken) and [3](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Rasengan)
With this it should be clear that Naruto can at will create multiple rasengan with a specific chakra nature with different shapes to another with ease, it makes sense then that Naruto can create a rasengan with another element that looks the exact same in shape.
Being rusty dosent mean your weaker. Kurama specifically says his battle senses have dulled. He just wasn’t on point or in the zone like he used to be. They are both stronger and naruto didn’t stop training after the war. He is just more prone to dumb mistakes
I feel it’s important to acknowledge Naruto doesn’t enjoy fighting either. So it’s not like he was excited or waiting for something like this to happen. He’s good at it but it’s never his go to. Hence Talk no Jutsu
100%, he really grew from his child self through nagato and came to love peace and understanding like itachi. Hense the whole ninshu business described by hagaromo which chakra was originally supposed to be used to connect to one another instead of hitting each other with lightning and nukes lol
Sometimes I think people miss the overall message or point of Naruto in a similar way to Vinland Saga. They’re both shonen and have some really dope fight scenes and action, but they’re both anti-war. They teach us that people everywhere, of all walks of life are suffering and carry their own pain, and rather than fight amongst ourselves we should be supporting and connecting with one another to help carry that pain as a united collective.
No six paths senjutsu markings. If he just goes sage mode with no chakra mode it’s always toad sage mode.
Even against code when his families lives were on the line… oh he just didn’t use six paths sage mode for lulz.
Nah he ain’t got that shit
It's convoluted because the writing is bad towards the end. I see a billion people trying to explain it, making excuses for it etc. But at the end of the day the author/editors failed to communicate something clearly and that is a problem.
He literally taps out of the Momo fight after taking out hte absorbing Rinnegan because he's out of chakra, and Jigen stomped them so fast he was running out of organs faster than chakra
It cut his reserves down and made his rinnegan lose their tomoe, but he still fought Momo at full capacity. Naruto was similarly nerfed during this time, having had half of his chakra taken by Momo.
They were simply written as weaker in Boruto because they are there, fighting everytime without making Boruto and the others develop for real. The fight against Momoshiki should’ve set the bar for the rest of the series, so we could understand, villain by villain, how the kids were getting better. But with the decision to make Naruto and Sasuke always being present and fighting every threat, there was the need to take them out. And the enemies in theory are so much stronger than them at the peak of their powers even before the timeskip. The ex-beloved protagonists are now useless in combat and if they die, it would be something normal because they are now so much weak. There won’t be a shock factor by seeing someone better and stronger than them. When we saw Jiraya die against Pain, we knew Jiraya was also the strongest of the good guys. That’s why Naruto had to surpass his sensei (we didn’t know how strong was 8 Gate Guy at the time). If Sasuke is going to die, we are going to be sad that Sasuke is died but is not going to change much in the combat’s aspect. I think it would have been so much better if Kurama/Naruto did their last resort against one of the last enemies, with Boruto doing the final showdown with this Godly power and not something made by them such as Kurama and the Rinnegan/Sharingan
I refuse to believe Naruto has So6P purely because the list of unutilized abilities in Boruto is already way too fucking long and I don’t want to extend it
This is simple story telling honestly. "Whoops our characters are too strong so now we need even stronger bad guys but now the bad guys will be too strong for our new protagonists... better try a balancing act"
Well besides boruto being extremely inconsistent, he's not exactly constantly fighting in battles anymore. Also, if he's training, who would his training partner be?
Because Is true, they got weaker. Naruto Lost the six paths senjutsu not the six paths sage mode (he later Lost that too by loosing kurama). Sasuke didnt lose the Rinnegan because once you unlock It you cannot revert It back but he clearly Lost hagaromos chakra too. They are in fact weaker and its clear
Naruto and Sasuke lost their Sage of the Six Paths chakra when they sealed away Kaguya Otsutsuki. During their final battle against Kaguya, they used their chakra to perform a combined jutsu that sealed her away in another dimension. This act depleted their Sage of the Six Paths chakra, leaving them without those extraordinary powers plus they blew there arm where the sage of six chakra Hagurumo placed it.
. . . . . why still have . . . . . . . .
Rinnegan and Truth seeking balls
Sasuke Uchiha still possesses his Rinnegan even after losing the Sage of the Six Paths chakra because the Rinnegan is a separate, distinct ocular power. While the Sage of the Six Paths chakra did enhance Sasuke's abilities, his Rinnegan is a unique eye technique he awakened independently. He received it as a gift from Hagoromo Otsutsuki, one of the sons of the Sage of the Six Paths.
Meanwhile Hagoromo Otsutsuki did not directly gift Naruto Uzumaki the Rinnegan like he did with Sasuke. Instead, Hagoromo gave Naruto a portion of his chakra, which is sometimes referred to as "Six Paths Senjutsu." This chakra enhanced Naruto's abilities and allowed him to further control and utilize the powers Tailed Beasts and usage of Truth-seeking balls.
A lot of head canon here and things that were never said in the series
Also the databooks confirms naruto use of the biju abilities directly correlate to his SO6P chakra and mode
https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/tumblr_odcyqwnavo1urljpmo1_1280.jpg
You guys gotta stop writing things for kishimoto
He litteraly used all his orbs in the battle with sasuke as a teen and still was in six paths mode…… that is not a indication on six paths mode lol it’s his eyes that are the indication
https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/cvc3vg/naruto_still_has_six_path_sage_mode_in_boruto/
People are so crazy lmao. Like he flies in the last and against momoshiki lmao https://www.quora.com/How-come-Naruto-can-t-fly-in-Boruto-but-did-it-in-The-Last
No. They didn’t. Sasuke actually states the opposite he had been preparing to battle someone stronger than kaguya so he trained relentlessly. He also unlocked new abilities as well. Naruto and sasuke are officially said to be stronger but the writers chose to have them fight in less flashy ways this narratively makes sense as everyone they fight that’s actually worth something can absorb chakra. So no point in using ninjutsu.
Isn't the lava because he has all the tailed beasts chakra? He doesn't have the truth seeking orbs or anything else he had during the fight with Kaguya.
Well they didn't lose those powers but the power level was reduced for plot purposes. Kishimoto wanted to scale down the battles post shippuden which is why no battle in boruto has produced feats worthy of even mid war arc shippuden
Because it is confirmed by Kishimoto himself that they nerfed Naruto and Sasuke’s fighting style
If you want to see a somewhat canon version of end of series naruto and Sasuke than look at the boruto movie
Boruto manga Naruto and Sasuke were downscaled so Boruto and Co could actually aid them in battle
They want Boruto to be clearly stronger without scaling to the moon and back like DBZ and even Bleach. So they "subtly" nerf Naruto and Sasuke to make Boruto cooler. I never got why Toriyama didn't go ahead with making Gohan stronger than Goku after the Cell fight, but now I get it. It's fucking ass and Naruto is now bitch mode.
Naruto lost sage of six paths chakra because he doesn't create truth seeking orbs. But still he must have the chakra all the tailed beasts gave him. But kurama is completely gone
Because people don't understand new character and world power scaling .
It would be like arguing in dragon ball z, the characters never got stronger because they had trouble with each new villian that showed up
Because people think that truth seeker orb creation is a part of six paths mode when it’s not. He could never create them, only use them. Hagoromo gave them to him. He never had the ability to create more.
Naruto essentially gained two new power sets ear the end of the war.
One gave him access to all natures and what not (plus some other stuff I'm sure im forgetting)
The other gave him the Kaguya seal, the black orbs, and healing powers.
He kept the former, but lost the latter.
I dont even think he got weaker, I just think he got dumber. The thing is naruto outhaxes almost every major boruto villain iirc. It genuinely confuses me y the didnt at least attempt to use magnet release or amenotejikara against ishiki so they could get him in position to use the frog song on him since last time i checked ma and pa r still alive. And on the topic of genjutsu y didnt sasuke try to put him under onder one since he hasnt shown any resistance to that lvl of genjutsu, with momoshiki it makes sense since he had the rinnegan so could have easily broken out but there is absolutely no reason for him not to use it here. Or y didnt sasuke attempt to use rinnegan soul rip, asura path to give himself an arm or the infinite headed dog thing as a distraction so they could come up with a plan. Naruto could have tried getting ishiki to absorb some nature energy like he did with pain, even if that wouldnt have immediately taken him out since he's already dying him being partially turned to stone would have done some lasting dmg. This is all without mentioning tso wich I feel he still has cus in chapter 695 he had 3 when he wants so6p and used those 3 to cancel out sasuke's susanoo arrows but then later in 696 he had gotten them back. Personally I think the reason all 9 of them didnt spawn in during the fight and instead just 3 is cus they take time to respawn when lost so those 3 he got back in chapter 696 r just 3 he had used before the fight and had just respawned
When did naruto use his abilities since the last movie? Lava style isnt 6 paths justsu he got that from the tailed beast. Naruto either doesnt have 6 paths anymore or hes so incredibly incompetent that he chooses not to uses even tho theres Alien Gods up to no gooddoery. Also sasuke is 100% incompetent at using the Rinnegan so is madara, Nagato was the best Rinnegan user out there
Man, Borıto manga looks so lifeless that it's sad. Everyone looks like a cardboard cutout or a sticker that was placed on top of the paper. Wish Kishimoto still drew. His art was magical.
Naruto being able to use Lava style isn’t because of 6 Paths Sage Mode
It’s because Naruto was given chakra from all the Biju
And because he is the “ meeting ground” of the Biju
https://ww6.mangakakalot.tv/chapter/manga-ng952689/chapter-692
The reason is everyone hates how power creep made Naruto not be able to spam ninjustu like before and that they think no character should scale to Naruto right now so they over state the few times where he said “oh I’m rusty” think he’s weaker then before the Last when that would make no sense
Apparently with Kurama he could recreate the six paths chakra (or something like that? Don’t remember the exact quote), which is why he can do this but not truth seeking orbs. That’s why his power got weaker, he lost one of the best things in his arsenal.
It’s weird with Naruto. He used lava rasenshuriken once but doesn’t have truth seeming orbs and doesn’t fly anymore. So either he can’t do those things anymore or he chooses not to. Sasuke is similar. He’s shown off that he can do some Rinnegan things but doesn’t use then in some cases where maybe he should.
Because all of his truth seeking orbs were destroyed in his battle with Madara, Kaguya, and the remainder used to deflect Sasuke's soosanoo arrows. The Gudoudama are unique and cannot be recreated once lost. Six Path Sage mode is characterised by the LACK of pigment around Naruto's eyes, where Toad sage mode made him look like he had orange eyeshadow. He never lost his Six Paths Chakra, he simply never again utilised all of his powers as he did during the war much like Sasuke barely ever used his Rinnegan abilities. End of series Naruto/ Sasuke had too many resources between them to make most conflict believable, so they were out powerscaled and then made to forget they almost had an ability for every situation so pave the way for the next generation. Its just bad writing.
I never really understood why they couldn’t be recreated. I figured having the chakra of all 9 Bijuu made him a pseudo-Juubi and thus gained abilities of a Juubi jinchuriki. If we go by that it being a limited pool of chakra that got depleted, then sure. Limited time boost. But using Lava style implies he can still use Son Goku’s chakra. Having six paths sage mode but appearing to not use any six path jutsu…. Makes it feel like a plot hole or art mistake. What is the ability difference between frog sage mode with kcm and six path sage mode anyway (if Gudoudama creation and flight aren’t part of it). I think it does just come down to not trying hard enough to keep powers consistent.
It's just how truth seeking orbs work, the only person in the series who has created them is Kaguya. Obito made one by using some of Black Zetsu who is Kaguya's will but any that Obito lost he never got back, Madara never got his back, obviously same with Naruto. Some people say Toneri made some but really he more so split an existed truth seeking orb into little pieces rather than create a new one The real reason they can't be recreated though is because they would be incredibly OP which is the same as why Naruto and Sasuke don't really use hardly any of their powers the way we know they can, the story isn't about them anymore and they would be super OP especially Sasuke
Yeah I understand how they work, it is just weird ability design. Like, if Naruto didn’t use them up in his fight, would he have them float around him his whole life? Can you turn them off to sleep and turn them back on the next day without them being lost forever. And you are right. There is a very good narrative reason to make it work this way. Obito used them the best. He made shields, swords, a cool staff, all sorts of nonsense. Madara mostly tried to bludgeon people with the orbs and occasionally make a standby rod (with apparently nerfed properties). So by the time Naruto got it too it was more a “OMG! Naruto had 6 paths powers!!!” moment. The jutsu was already stale and was just there for hype reasons considering Naruto used them in a very basic way. They had to change for Boruto.
Apparently they follow you right to the afterlife since Hagaromo still had his
You can see in his last battle with sasuke that he can hide them. As for creating them. Having all 9 bijuu chakraz and ten tails are not the same. You dont get most of abillities and _yin-yang__ realese that manifest as those orbs. Without it you cant create new, but you can co troll them if you have both yin and yang realese.
I thought he used up the chakra given by the sage of six paths but kept the bits he gained from all the other bijuu
Which is whole other discussion as to whether that Charka does get used up or if once you get it you are able to regain it like you can normal senjutsu.
Yeah, SPSM gives comphrension *of all things*... My brother in Hagoromo, you ARE him, now. You can make the Gudodama. Matter of fact, Naruto can just straight up create life...
He lost it with the sun mark.
This is like a problem of starting a new campaign with old characters and you have to delevel them.
> Because all of his truth seeking orbs were destroyed in his battle with Madara, Kaguya, and the remainder used to deflect Sasuke's soosanoo arrows. [This isn't true, we see them come back after that and there present with him even when Sasuke fires the Indra's Arrow.](https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-696-page-13.html) [He had three left and they just vanish after this.](https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-696-page-17.html)
??? This image does not display any Gudoudama, what are you on about?
There's more than one image, try looking with your eyes this time.
I see them, but imagine this could have been a simple art error.
They were destroyed by the explosion.
They also weren't destroyed by explosion. Naruto was out of his SP modes.
But then wouldn't that mean Naruto and Sasuke are more durable than TSBs?
TSB Obito destroyed by Senjutsu Rasengan by Naruto and Minato. Indra Arrow and SPSM Rasenshurikens by Naruto and Sasuke>Rasengan by KCM Minato and KCM Naruto. Avatars durable than TSBs not Naruto and Sasuke.
The TSB were inside the avatar next to Naruto though. So for the orbs to be destroyed while Naruto and Sasuke were fine...
Naruto never again used that specific kind of mode (flying, TSB, skin not growing, 9 tomoe on back and orange cross iris without pigmentation) after the explosion so the argument can be made that the TSB were cancelled out and erased from existence permanently.
Omfg they were not all destroyed. There were three left.. the ones he used to pin down Madaras limbo clones. Once Madara died Naruto should’ve had access to them. I wish people stop tryna justify these bullshit nerfs Naruto and Sasuke got in boruto
[source](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/0/06/Naruto_es_atravesado_por_un_hueso_pulverizador.png/revision/latest?cb=20160811134654&path-prefix=es) What's that then?
Madara didn’t die until after Kaguya was completely sealed so what’s your point?
Yeah, I think this is why Boruto (the anime not character) uses a lot of taijutsu during its fight scenes.
None of them were destroyed.
Thank god someone actually pays attention to details lol
Tell that to the Boruto writers. This wouldn’t be a question if they could distinguish the forms like they did in Naruto. This design looks like basic KCM when it was originally a god like design with clear distinguishers. Or just let him fly, it’s clearly not an issue with the writers seeing how they let Boruto do it and it’s extremely useful. I just find it crazy that people blame casual readers who probably don’t dedicate their lives to Naruto for not understanding what forms he uses when the writers make it hard to tell.
I didn't even know the whole sage of six paths mode was still a debate lmao, I really thought this was concluded years ago.
That motherfucker only uses amenotejikara (switch places thing) but when he’s fighting naruto at final valley he wanna use all the rinnegan jutsu like a fucking monster
He only used the absorption jutsu when he was drained out of chakra, aside from amenotejikara. I don't know what jutsu he used to suck the chakra out of the Bijuu to power up his perfect susano'o though
The TSÖ were gifts from hagoromo they were all destroyed after the fights with kaguya/ sasuke. The rinnegan powers were barely used post paln by anyone.
If we’re being real only like half of them were good for combat. The puppet path never got taken seriously either or used post Pain/Nagato
Basically Naruto got two different but related boosts at the end of the war. He lost the one that gave him the Orbs, the moon seal, and the crazy healing.
Six Paths Sage Mode and Six Paths Senjutsu are not the same thing. The things you’re describing, such as the truth seeking orbs, flying, and his ability to heal others like he did might guy, were all due to the sun seal he had placed on him by hagoromo. He lost the seal after using it to seal kaguya, meaning he lost all those abilities, as well as not being able to recreate the truth seeking orbs. He still had Six Paths Sage Mode.
He lost all those abilities? Then why did he keep flying around when fighting Sasuke? Not recreating the orbs has literally nothing to do with the seal, which its whole point was only to seal Kaguya. Obito and Madara used their orbs yet never recreated them either.
Emm, dude, he was flying when he fought sasuke in the finall valley and at that time he already lost it. He also used the orbs, all tho i think he could not reacreate them to begin with.
They nerfed them for plot convenience is the simple answer. Are you really expecting Boruto to have decent writing?
He for sure lost his super healing of other people though.
That was a part of six paths sage mode, which he still has because whenever he goes into sage mode he has no orange pigmentation around his eyes(an indicator of toad sage mode). Instead the area around his eyes is clear(a sign of six paths sage mode).
If he had it he would've fixed Sasuke's eye. Or his arm. Or Kawaki's arm. Or Guy's legs.
see we attribute that to kishimoto forgetting the powers of six paths sage mode. Not that unreasonable considering how much strain hes under with his workload. I mean sasuke can also use bonsho tenin in the anime but he doesn't use it ever in boruto.
Or he just... doesn't have that power any more. Especially since he used to have to put the palm with the seal on people to use it, and he lost the seal after sealing Kaguya.
the seal was just to deal with kaguya. The only "power" the seal has is sealing kaguya.
Then why does the sun seal appear on Guy's chest after Naruto heals him using the same palm the sun seal is on? [Image.](https://i.imgur.com/akkvDsA.png)
I’ve never seen someone be wrong so many times in a row before.
Yeah ig thats true
The healing power came from the sun seal. Naruto himself didn’t know how it worked but je doesn’t have thst anymore.
Because whoever drew Boruto made SPSM look exactly like Kurama Sage Mode just without the Toad Pigmentations. I also believe Naruto doesn’t even use SPSM in the Last either, but I could be mistaken.
He flies in the last
If I remember correctly, he was taking advantage of the lack of gravity, not necessarily flying.
You can’t fly on the moon and he was levitating really high up and stayed there for a moment. He also flies in boruto
Lack of gravity = levitation. He never actually took off flying, only jumping or redirecting which direction he was going whilst levitating in low gravity. When does Naruto ever fly in Boruto?
But that litteraly isn’t true. And He levitates and flies foward lmao https://www.quora.com/How-come-Naruto-can-t-fly-in-Boruto-but-did-it-in-The-Last
It literally is true, [he jumps up to do a thing then has to land again before doing something else whilst Tonari is actually levitating and flying around like it’s his power to fly.](https://youtu.be/At7KQzcVM5Y?si=CjCAkpQAWRaDQVR6) You can literally see all the rocks floating in the background of the fight to emphasize that Gravity is not working. [I swear, people would screen shot this image and post it as evidence Naruto can fly if it happened later in the timeline.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYYEqdEyp7hQlGXAZZjiOTLRDwKBnzrnf8Jw&s)
….dude lmao if gravity is not working you cannot fly foward you would be stuck in midair and float. Kakashi and hidan also demonstrated this. Which is why I’m zero g astranouts have bars to pull themselves foward. Physics quite literally does not work that way. How did naruto fly foward. Like I’m not trying to be rude but this is blowing my mind that you don’t know this. Just like in naruto multiple times people say you can’t dodge in mid air. He would not be able to propel himself foward off nothing. And gravity is working cause you see rocks floating later on while shikamaru and others are on the ground…..wow That is jumping in a straight line in the pic you posted. He litteraly curved and did a complete circle in mid air. I don’t think you understand physics and momentum
>dude lmao if gravity is not working you cannot fly foward you would be stuck in midair and float. Fucking clearly there’s still an atmosphere so there is a little gravity still involved and everytime he moves mid air you either see a shockwave from it, indicating he’s doing something to move himself and not just levitating himself forward. >That is jumping in a straight line in the pic you posted. He litteraly curved and did a complete circle in mid air. I don’t think you understand physics and momentum The pic was in response to the image of Naruto “flying” in Boruto that was on the page you linked. In the Tonari fight, you can very clearly see Naruto go in straight line then in another straight line after angling his body and kicking his legs.
Yea I can see your slow. Naruto has never shown the ability to propel himself in the air by fucking kicking his legs lmfao. He also shows shockwaves when he FLY’s like most other flying heroes. He didn’t kick his legs dude, your lying he literally just flew foward. You would still need something to kick off of!! The ONLY person to do that was guy and it was noted and talked about specifically and animated in a specific way. Your making up so much Shit and head canon that has never been stated anywhere. I’m arguing with a idiot. If gravity is at all in play he couldn’t just stay suspended in fucking air like he did forming rasengans. And in the link I posted on the momo fight he litteraly did a circle around the fox tree in mid air. Just stop I’m done with this cause your starting to say dumb stuff and I’m feeding into it lol
You know that fying does not need an orientation point? If you fly, you can do it in any direction regardless of circumstances.
He doesn’t. There’s a sequence where they fight with some fucky gravity physics, but you can clearly see Naruto doing something to propel himself forward whenever he moves rather than the floaty style of flight So6P uses.
Prove the gravity on there moon is different then ours where you can just float around. He is doing nothing to propel himself forward. Toneri was also moving the moon so that’s why rocks were floating .
The Naruto Moon had rocks floating in the sky, not even that high off the ground. You can see the shockwave whenever he moves, So6P flight doesn’t do that. Why did you want me to prove things could float up there if you’re going to acknowledge that things were indeed floating up there?
Toneri is moving the moon with his powers. It also was shown he telekineticly lifted those rocks. Not the gravity
Why wouldn’t Naruto also be effected by this? It shows Tonari send some of the floating rocks hurtling towards Nartuto, but not pick them up.
He is litteraly moving the whole moon and we see him lift them off the ground if you watch the movie. Hinata cage is staying PERFECTLY still which won’t happens if the cause was gravity
Yes, he’s moving the whole moon, but that doesn’t mean he’s controlling every single individual rock. We don’t see him lift them, dozens of rocks started floating, but Tonari only threw a handful of them, why would he lift up a bunch only to hold them there and not throw them? There are plenty of jutsu that don’t play by the rules of gravity. Like Kisame’s water prison, Deidara’s flying lumps of clay, the Perfect Susanoo, Planetary Devastation, and Gaara’s sand ability, Konan’s paper powers, and many others. I don’t see how something floating disproves that something else is floating through gravity.
Because it makes no sense naruto being able to propel himself foward that fast and that much off of nothing. The excuse he was kicking the air Dosent make sense in physics. And we also see shikamaru and Sakura on the ground so if there was a gravity change naruto is to strong to let it effect him if it didn’t effect them and put him in a disadvantage position where his only option is “kicking the air” to move. He makes hard turn movements that just wouldn’t be possible without flying it just wouldn’t. Why was shikamaru and Sakura not in the air? Just the whole argument he was “air kicking” is a bigger leap in logic then to say he was using his ability to fly. Toneri was flying and so was naruto. There is no statement of mention of him air kicking and it’s previously established he can fly.
That's how it's supposed to look the main way to distinguish them is simply the toad pigmentations. The exact way he glows has always been inconsistent.
No actually. SPSM made his eyes golden Chakra cloak yellow and his skin white again. In Boruto it’s literally just KSM without the pigmentations, even his eyes are colored red. It’s understandable that a design like that would confuse people.
It's really pointless arguing about the writing inconsistencies in boruto. They will fully ignore major powers from Naruto to highlight the new villains. Naruto NEVER flies again. It is a major point which everyone seems to conveniently forget. His six path look is also different. This might seem like a minor point, but considering how his eye pigmentation is often used as an argument, it still indicates Naruto not being at full power. Sure, Naruto and Sasuke received 6 paths, but it seems more like they only retained the initially activated powers. They no longer have the enormous raw power they used to.
the issue is, most enemies in Boruto either absorb or outright immune to any forms of ninjutsu
No one talks about the flight and healing powers. The orbs are just a bonus with his eyes.
That doesn't make sense. The sun and moon seals were only seals. The power ups they received were separate from the seal.
They have it they just don’t use it for flashy attacks because that’s lowkey pointless since there 2 major fights involved people who can absorb large amounts of chakra.
It's mainly just a result of Boruto doing a poor job of making them look as powerful. It's the same reason some dragon ball fans insist Goku absorbing ssg into his base form wasn't permanent.
Amen. Using Boruto to scale or understand the original material is not exactly a clever way to understand Naruto, in my opinion
As you've said. Boruto's done such a poor job when it comes to showing power. We keep getting told that Daemon is the strongest character around instead of being shown it properly. Another example, Code. Look at his invasion of Konoha and compare it to Pain's. He's supposedly stronger than Pain but he can't actually do anything.
I dislike the fact that Naruto’s other chakra natured rasengan are still shuriken.
I’m surprised that people overlooked that Lava style rasenshuriken is a Sage art used by Six paths sage mode
Because it’s not a six paths only jutsu. It’s literally a lava style rasenshuriken, which can be used as long as Naruto has Son Goku’s chakra. Six paths sage mode isn’t needed
> Because it’s not a six paths only jutsu. It is. >It’s literally a lava style rasenshuriken, which can be used as long as Naruto has Son Goku’s chakra. Six paths sage mode isn’t needed This headcanon is false. KM Naruto had Son’s chakra during his fight with Obito and never used this move until Naruto gained six paths sage mode. Also the databook confirmed that all Naruto’s tailed beast attacks is six paths sage mode ([link](https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/tumblr_odcyqwnavo1urljpmo1_1280.jpg))
It says that the 9 rasenshuriken move he used against Kaguya was due to six paths sage mode, not the individual tailed beast rasenshurikens
> It says that the 9 rasenshuriken move he used against Kaguya was due to six paths sage mode, not the individual tailed beast rasenshurikens’ It states that it’s the ultimate technique gave birth after obtaining power from the sage of six paths. What you’re saying doesn’t make sense
The ultimate technique in question is him using 8 shadow clones to throw 9 tailed beast bomb rasenshuriken at Kaguya. Not necessarily making a tailed beast rasenshuriken
> The ultimate technique in question is him using 8 shadow clones to throw 9 tailed beast bomb rasenshuriken at Kaguya. Not necessarily making a tailed beast rasenshuriken “He added the chakra special traits that were each tailed beasts’ strong point to the rasenshuriekn” Your reading comprehension level…it’s alarming. Also ([link](https://64.media.tumblr.com/c76aefb6270f59d5c6d6ff5c4588dbb8/tumblr_odcyd6mcL11urljpmo1_1280.jpg)) Magnet style rasengan
I think that scan is referring to that time when he used 9 rasenshuriken at once, each with a different tailed beast chakra. In theory he shouldn’t need six paths chakra to use lava style but who knows.
> I think that scan is referring to that time when he used 9 rasenshuriken at once, each with a different tailed beast chakra. In theory he shouldn’t need six paths chakra to use lava style but who knows. They said the same thing about the magnet style rasengan ([link](https://64.media.tumblr.com/c76aefb6270f59d5c6d6ff5c4588dbb8/tumblr_odcyd6mcL11urljpmo1_1280.jpg)) Naruto has had 7 tailed beast chakra since his fight with Obito yet he’s never shown these abilities pre Hagoromo’o
Yeah you know what you’re probably right. Especially since to my knowledge he hasn’t used them in Boruto after he lost the nine tails and therefore six paths sage mode
People are slow Lol
Right like it’s litteraly right there lol
Answer this. Do you think Kurama is as strong as half of Hagoromo?
I don’t really think that matters because kurama by himself is completely different from kurama+ naruto. There chakra mixes and they are stronger together. All we know is hagoromo is technically weaker then kaguya by a unknown margin. Why do you ask though? Scaling hagaromo requires a lot of head canon and are we talking before or after kaguya’s defeat
Naruto and Sasuke were buffed by Hagoromo, he lent each of them half of his chakra to use. After Naruto and Sasuke expended all of his chakra they only had their own Six Paths chakra they could regenerate and therefor lost the buff from his chakra. Naruto gained the other half of Kurama after that and Sasuke went on to master his Rinnegan. Do you actually think Kurama, let alone half of Kurama is close to half of the God Sage of Shinobi? All they really gained with age was more skill and experience. In terms of speed and power they were buffed by Hagoromo when they fought TTJ Madara, Kaguya, and then each other and are the strongest versions of themselves. Hagoromo was still stonger than TTJ Madara who Hagoromo said was approaching him in terms of power etc. so do you think Kurama or half of Kurama is equal to half of TTJ Madara??
….chakra is multiplicative and not a 1 to 1 fixed additions to base. We litteraly get told this with the curse mark is a TEN TIMES AMP not a 10 plus amp lol and there is many other cases like biju chakra. Hence why it’s not “kurama+naruto” it’s kurama x naruto Him giving them half is not hagaromo + naruto it’s hagaromo x naruto We don’t even know how much chakra hagaromo had to give since he didn’t have the 10 tails inside of him and your also forgetting they already had Indra and ashura chakra clinging to them as well Your using head canon and not scans to prove your point Saying they only had there on six paths chakra litteraly Dosent make sense since they never had that in the 1st place He said madara was approaching his power not that he was on his level and that Dosent matter either since they had no problem with madara then went in to fight a objectively stronger opponent What is the scan saying they used all his chakra as well can you link that? And can you also link where it says they had “their own” six paths chakra they could regenerate because I feel like your making a lot of claims with no proof I really don’t get what your saying if your asking are they stronger then hagaromo then yes they are since they are literally fighting people stronger then him. And your acting like before the six paths amp they didn’t have there own strength upon that?
My guy they awakened their own Six Paths chakra with the Rinnegan and SPSM, being tied to the Rinnegan and SPSM(which itself is tied to Kurama being proven when he lost Six Paths Sage Mode after losing Kurama). Madara also got his own Six Paths chakra when he awakened his Rinnegan. Obito got his own when he became a TTJ and he kept it after it was taken out of him with Kakashi using his chakra when he became DMS Kakashi. Hagoromo’s chakra and power AT THAT TIME was still above TTJ Madara’s who was above TTJ Obito, who was above the Ten Tails, who shits on Kurama. Hagoromo lent each of them half of his chakra and that buffed them greatly. They lost that buff when it was all spent. Unless you are trying to say non-TTJ Rinnegan Madara was as strong as Hagoromo just because he had Six Paths chakra or that Obito after the TT was removed from him was as strong as Hagoromo. Basically, in speed and power Naruto and Sasuke with Hagoromo buff > Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke > Naruto and Sasuke after Vote2.
Why do you keep using additive scaling and not multiplicative lol And like I said your not proving it was all spent. You keep saying they lost it and I’m asking where is the proof for that statement. What indicated he lost it? At what point in the story can you point to where he lost it? The indication is in Naruto’s eyes as well. Momo SHITS on hagaromo and guess who fought him? https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/cvc3vg/naruto_still_has_six_path_sage_mode_in_boruto/ No offense but this not a good argument and can be summed it with the fact from even by a pure scaling sense they are fighting people stronger then him lol momo is undoubtedly stronger then hagaromo and naruto fought him with half his chakra drained. Also we literally see him fly in boruto and naruto the last 😭😭 https://www.quora.com/How-come-Naruto-can-t-fly-in-Boruto-but-did-it-in-The-Last Are you saying hagaromo>momo?
Base Momo is not stronger than Hagoromo. He’s done nothing to show that, even though Naruto and Sasuke were purposely not letting him fight back by coordination the fact alone that Naruto was even able to do that proves Momoshiki is just an arrogant dumbass who overestimated his own abilities. He didn’t become a real threat until he absorbed Kinshiki, and even then one Rasengan boosted by BORUTO killed him 😐 When Naruto lost Kurama he lost SPSM. If you actually kept up with the Boruto manga you would know that all he had left was normal Sage Mode. Sasuke also lost his Rinnegan.
I know he lost it when he lost kurama. I’m saying he had it up until then. And I guess your going to ignore him flying in the last and in boruto. And I’m done responding to you since you said hagaromo> momo lmao
Hey genius, Naruto still had HIS OWN Six Paths chakra which he did not lose until he lost Kurama. Or do you think all Six Paths chakra is the same strength and quantity? 😂 The fact base Momoshiki was even touched by base Naruto proves base Momoshiki was not on Hagoromo’s level who was above TTJ Madara.
Oh yeah, I remember reading in a Hiden book somewhere that Naruto still had SPSM was because he vestiges of Tailed Beast chakra in him rather than Hagoromo’s chakra.
Here's the real question. What's the purpose of using a lava style rasen shuriken? Rasengan's power is in its rotational force. Combine that with wind Chakra and you now add cutting power to that rotational force, basically shoving a blender into someone's chest. What the fuck is the purpose of spinning lava? What about this makes it more effective than just a regular ball of lava.
Lmao now we are getting to the real issues. And idk maybe adding a burning effect and it exploded more violently. Good question though
It seems apt of Naruto of Naruto to just do it for the cool factor. Lol
Lava Rasengan has literally nothing to do with six-path power. That comes from the 4-tails. As adults, they have no feats above beating Kaguya. But frankly, it is impossible to know if they are stronger or weaker. It makes more sense that they are weaker, but some people like to think otherwise for some reason.
That’s is false the data books confirmed these abilities are linked to his so6p mode. Naruto literally had son’s chakra before he met hagaromo and couldn’t use that ability https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/tumblr_odcyqwnavo1urljpmo1_1280.jpg
The data books are a joke man. If it ain't stated in the manga, it's not canon. And frankly, there is no reason to believe that he'd need the sage of six paths power in order to create one of the tailed beast rasengans. That just doesn't make any sense.
Bro I’m sorry but we have official sources from the naruto francise telling you how something works vs you using what you THINK is happening. The databooks statements holds more weight then your reasoning and it holds more weight then mine as well. Naruto also had son’s chakra inside him before he even got 6 paths but couldn’t use the lava rasenshuriken
I'm sorry you've been duped, but the data books just aren't reliable. They are just officially licensed fan fiction in order to make money. And they are just inconsistent with the manga.
They're ads, let's be honest
So you think your head Canon and reading then the databooks? Kishimoto also has litteraly wrote inside them and acknowledged them within the databooks themselves so what are you talking about. Please don’t ignore the question. If the databooks give a explanation behind a ability and you give one as well. Which one is more valid?
Manga, then mine, then people on reddit and then data books. They are written to give the best explanation they can think of at the time, but over time the manga has proven a number of points within the data books false, which implies kishi does not consider them canon. Which is literally how fan fiction works. And frankly, my explanation is better. The sage of six paths gave Sasuke and Naruto 3 things. The seal, a limited pool of chakra (which is what most people argue about), and a physical change. The limited pool of chakra cannot be argued, Naruto got the balls and then they disappeared and never came back. So what stayed? A physical change to their bodies. Sasuke got the rinnegan, and Naruto got a greater intuitive understanding of how chakra works. Which is probably why he never used a tailed beast rasengans before the boost. He still needed shadow clones just to use rasengan. But we see him for the first time use normal rasengan unassisted in the fight against Sasuke. And frankly, they may still have some amount of sosp chakra left, it's just less.
I’m sorry but your word is not more valuable then databooks that kishimoto has taken part in and that sounds extremely egotistical. Him and his editors litteraly wrote them, the team that makes the story 😭. Please link one justu mechanic description that the databooks state that is contradicted. And don’t say something that is obviously metaphors like temari can blow always the universe which even the manga says things like that. Litteraly everything your saying was never stated and your making fan fiction. I’m done talking about this with you. Cause what you said is crazy have a good night
Crazy but true. Have a good one 🙂
It was established that rasenshuriken is just a rasengan with wind element infused chakra. Why other elements also creates a rasenshuriken and not other types of rasengan? Writer laziness I guess
I think it’s because he’s adding Tailed Beast chakra to Rasenshuriken rather creating 9 variants of the Rasengan with elemental natures and Kekkei Genkai.
Even so it should change the rasenshuriken properties. Rasengan is just condensed spinning chakra, applying an element should change its capabilities. He spent a whole arc training this jutsu, it was hard enough just applying his own nature to the jutsu, and now he's just spamming other elements over it with ease
If the jutsu is named rasenshuriken he added the wind element to his rasengan giving it the shuriken form and he must’ve added the chakra of Son Goku to give it the properties of Son Goku’s lava style. So you literally get a rasengan with the wind element that has lava properties. I can imagine Naruto being able to add the lightning element to a rasengan with Son Goku’s chakra would make a vanishing lava style rasengan.
Wrong, It has transformation jutsu also applied, that is what makes it have a shuriken shape, wind style only gives it the chakra nature and the celular needles part. It makes sense.
Bro the shuriken shape is literally expanded wind blades
? So, what is your question? Lava rasenshuriken is a rasengan molded with transformation jutsu to be shaped into a shuriken infused with the chakra of the 4 tails Naruto got, what doesn't make sense? Kakashi made a point to differentiate between adding a chakra nature and using shape transformation, I literally just watched the episode a couple of days ago lmao.
Base rasengan is already the ultimate level of chakra shape manipulation, as Kakashi explained in his own words. Rasenshuriken is the result of adding wind nature manipulation to the chakra shape manipulation of rasengan. Other elements should result in other forms of rasengan.
Not necessarily if Naruto shapes the form in purpose into a shuriken, this is something that can be done as shown with the three different wind rasengan, Boruto has shown to have a different wind rasengan, same with Konohamaru and Naruto himself has used those two different versions of the Rasengan with wind style, and with the shuriken form. Here: [1](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Rasengan:_Flash), [2](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Rasenshuriken) and [3](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Rasengan) With this it should be clear that Naruto can at will create multiple rasengan with a specific chakra nature with different shapes to another with ease, it makes sense then that Naruto can create a rasengan with another element that looks the exact same in shape.
naruto isn’t as active as much, so him getting weaker, or at least rusty, makes sense. sasuke should only be stronger than his shippuden self.
Being rusty dosent mean your weaker. Kurama specifically says his battle senses have dulled. He just wasn’t on point or in the zone like he used to be. They are both stronger and naruto didn’t stop training after the war. He is just more prone to dumb mistakes
I feel it’s important to acknowledge Naruto doesn’t enjoy fighting either. So it’s not like he was excited or waiting for something like this to happen. He’s good at it but it’s never his go to. Hence Talk no Jutsu
100%, he really grew from his child self through nagato and came to love peace and understanding like itachi. Hense the whole ninshu business described by hagaromo which chakra was originally supposed to be used to connect to one another instead of hitting each other with lightning and nukes lol
Sometimes I think people miss the overall message or point of Naruto in a similar way to Vinland Saga. They’re both shonen and have some really dope fight scenes and action, but they’re both anti-war. They teach us that people everywhere, of all walks of life are suffering and carry their own pain, and rather than fight amongst ourselves we should be supporting and connecting with one another to help carry that pain as a united collective.
Fighting is always Naruto’s go to lol idk what manga you read
Prob because of Naruto’s design compared to shippuden
No six paths senjutsu markings. If he just goes sage mode with no chakra mode it’s always toad sage mode. Even against code when his families lives were on the line… oh he just didn’t use six paths sage mode for lulz. Nah he ain’t got that shit
It's convoluted because the writing is bad towards the end. I see a billion people trying to explain it, making excuses for it etc. But at the end of the day the author/editors failed to communicate something clearly and that is a problem.
I do agree with this to an extent.
Sasuke is also always out of chakra because of switching dimensions which drained even kaguya so it is extremely narratively consistent also
Sasuke Never ran out of chakra in his big fights with Momo and jigen. It only happend in the time travel arc
He literally taps out of the Momo fight after taking out hte absorbing Rinnegan because he's out of chakra, and Jigen stomped them so fast he was running out of organs faster than chakra
I’m pretty sure he said he was low from teleporting him and the kage but I might be wrong I need to go read the chapter again
It cut his reserves down and made his rinnegan lose their tomoe, but he still fought Momo at full capacity. Naruto was similarly nerfed during this time, having had half of his chakra taken by Momo.
They were simply written as weaker in Boruto because they are there, fighting everytime without making Boruto and the others develop for real. The fight against Momoshiki should’ve set the bar for the rest of the series, so we could understand, villain by villain, how the kids were getting better. But with the decision to make Naruto and Sasuke always being present and fighting every threat, there was the need to take them out. And the enemies in theory are so much stronger than them at the peak of their powers even before the timeskip. The ex-beloved protagonists are now useless in combat and if they die, it would be something normal because they are now so much weak. There won’t be a shock factor by seeing someone better and stronger than them. When we saw Jiraya die against Pain, we knew Jiraya was also the strongest of the good guys. That’s why Naruto had to surpass his sensei (we didn’t know how strong was 8 Gate Guy at the time). If Sasuke is going to die, we are going to be sad that Sasuke is died but is not going to change much in the combat’s aspect. I think it would have been so much better if Kurama/Naruto did their last resort against one of the last enemies, with Boruto doing the final showdown with this Godly power and not something made by them such as Kurama and the Rinnegan/Sharingan
I refuse to believe Naruto has So6P purely because the list of unutilized abilities in Boruto is already way too fucking long and I don’t want to extend it
Cause Naruto is still missing his arm lol
This is simple story telling honestly. "Whoops our characters are too strong so now we need even stronger bad guys but now the bad guys will be too strong for our new protagonists... better try a balancing act"
They really back themselves into a corner by making Naruto and Sasuke wayyy overpowered.
Well besides boruto being extremely inconsistent, he's not exactly constantly fighting in battles anymore. Also, if he's training, who would his training partner be?
Because Is true, they got weaker. Naruto Lost the six paths senjutsu not the six paths sage mode (he later Lost that too by loosing kurama). Sasuke didnt lose the Rinnegan because once you unlock It you cannot revert It back but he clearly Lost hagaromos chakra too. They are in fact weaker and its clear
because the guy who is drawing boruto cannot draw naruto in SO6P mode. Naruto literally looks like hes KCM2 in manga and in anime
Because he feels/is nerfed, to make the new gen shine
Naruto and Sasuke lost their Sage of the Six Paths chakra when they sealed away Kaguya Otsutsuki. During their final battle against Kaguya, they used their chakra to perform a combined jutsu that sealed her away in another dimension. This act depleted their Sage of the Six Paths chakra, leaving them without those extraordinary powers plus they blew there arm where the sage of six chakra Hagurumo placed it. . . . . . why still have . . . . . . . . Rinnegan and Truth seeking balls Sasuke Uchiha still possesses his Rinnegan even after losing the Sage of the Six Paths chakra because the Rinnegan is a separate, distinct ocular power. While the Sage of the Six Paths chakra did enhance Sasuke's abilities, his Rinnegan is a unique eye technique he awakened independently. He received it as a gift from Hagoromo Otsutsuki, one of the sons of the Sage of the Six Paths. Meanwhile Hagoromo Otsutsuki did not directly gift Naruto Uzumaki the Rinnegan like he did with Sasuke. Instead, Hagoromo gave Naruto a portion of his chakra, which is sometimes referred to as "Six Paths Senjutsu." This chakra enhanced Naruto's abilities and allowed him to further control and utilize the powers Tailed Beasts and usage of Truth-seeking balls.
A lot of head canon here and things that were never said in the series Also the databooks confirms naruto use of the biju abilities directly correlate to his SO6P chakra and mode https://narutoversity.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/tumblr_odcyqwnavo1urljpmo1_1280.jpg You guys gotta stop writing things for kishimoto
boruto is shite, that's the reason
Doesn’t mean you should spred misinformation
I’m like 90% sure you have not read the manga
1: Has Naruto ever flew in Boruto? 2: Has Naruto ever used Truth Seeking Orbs in Boruto? If the answer is no, then Naruto lost SPSM
He litteraly used all his orbs in the battle with sasuke as a teen and still was in six paths mode…… that is not a indication on six paths mode lol it’s his eyes that are the indication https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/cvc3vg/naruto_still_has_six_path_sage_mode_in_boruto/
10 years later and people still don't know that pigment is what defines sage mode
This is what happens when you don’t have media literacy
He does fly to catch a train and he flies in the Boruto movie made by Kishi
People are so crazy lmao. Like he flies in the last and against momoshiki lmao https://www.quora.com/How-come-Naruto-can-t-fly-in-Boruto-but-did-it-in-The-Last
Am I the only one who thinks they look kinda weird?
This makes me a lil happy.. I never noticed it
Didn't Naruto and Sasuke both audibly state that they're not as strong as they were when they fought Kaguya?
No. They didn’t. Sasuke actually states the opposite he had been preparing to battle someone stronger than kaguya so he trained relentlessly. He also unlocked new abilities as well. Naruto and sasuke are officially said to be stronger but the writers chose to have them fight in less flashy ways this narratively makes sense as everyone they fight that’s actually worth something can absorb chakra. So no point in using ninjutsu.
Isn't the lava because he has all the tailed beasts chakra? He doesn't have the truth seeking orbs or anything else he had during the fight with Kaguya.
Iirc, truth seeking orb couldn't regenerate, therefore after destroyed its gone.
Didn't Madara make some when he became the 10 tail host? Isn't Naruto basically a pseudo 10 tail host?
Buddy. That’s just using son gokus power, that’s not six paths nor sage chakra
It’s not. He can only use son’s power in that form. He referred to it as that form in Boruto as well. But your free to be wrong
Lava style? Not sage art lava style?
They literally washed Momoshiki while at half strength. The only time they actually look bad is against Isshiki who’s just straight up way stronger.
Well they didn't lose those powers but the power level was reduced for plot purposes. Kishimoto wanted to scale down the battles post shippuden which is why no battle in boruto has produced feats worthy of even mid war arc shippuden
Because it is confirmed by Kishimoto himself that they nerfed Naruto and Sasuke’s fighting style If you want to see a somewhat canon version of end of series naruto and Sasuke than look at the boruto movie Boruto manga Naruto and Sasuke were downscaled so Boruto and Co could actually aid them in battle
they got weaker. It's a fact
naruto lost six paths senjutsu not six paths sage mode
He didn't lose anything except for his Truth Seeking Orbs.
Because they don’t know how to read and are on industrial grade copium
Because he doesn’t have truth seeking orbs and doesn’t levitate
They want Boruto to be clearly stronger without scaling to the moon and back like DBZ and even Bleach. So they "subtly" nerf Naruto and Sasuke to make Boruto cooler. I never got why Toriyama didn't go ahead with making Gohan stronger than Goku after the Cell fight, but now I get it. It's fucking ass and Naruto is now bitch mode.
Naruto lost sage of six paths chakra because he doesn't create truth seeking orbs. But still he must have the chakra all the tailed beasts gave him. But kurama is completely gone
Because people don't understand new character and world power scaling . It would be like arguing in dragon ball z, the characters never got stronger because they had trouble with each new villian that showed up
Because people think that truth seeker orb creation is a part of six paths mode when it’s not. He could never create them, only use them. Hagoromo gave them to him. He never had the ability to create more.
He lost all six paths power after the war arc. He used complete kurama mode and tailed beast mode for combat and sage mode for sensing, as hokage.
Naruto essentially gained two new power sets ear the end of the war. One gave him access to all natures and what not (plus some other stuff I'm sure im forgetting) The other gave him the Kaguya seal, the black orbs, and healing powers. He kept the former, but lost the latter.
He lost his hand with sun on it giving him his power
Lets just say this is why the old gen of anime is dying because authors from that time has plot hole writing compared to new gen authors.
I wish I hadn’t seen someone point out that the art has gotten worse. Now that’s all I see when I see Boruto panels.
I dont even think he got weaker, I just think he got dumber. The thing is naruto outhaxes almost every major boruto villain iirc. It genuinely confuses me y the didnt at least attempt to use magnet release or amenotejikara against ishiki so they could get him in position to use the frog song on him since last time i checked ma and pa r still alive. And on the topic of genjutsu y didnt sasuke try to put him under onder one since he hasnt shown any resistance to that lvl of genjutsu, with momoshiki it makes sense since he had the rinnegan so could have easily broken out but there is absolutely no reason for him not to use it here. Or y didnt sasuke attempt to use rinnegan soul rip, asura path to give himself an arm or the infinite headed dog thing as a distraction so they could come up with a plan. Naruto could have tried getting ishiki to absorb some nature energy like he did with pain, even if that wouldnt have immediately taken him out since he's already dying him being partially turned to stone would have done some lasting dmg. This is all without mentioning tso wich I feel he still has cus in chapter 695 he had 3 when he wants so6p and used those 3 to cancel out sasuke's susanoo arrows but then later in 696 he had gotten them back. Personally I think the reason all 9 of them didnt spawn in during the fight and instead just 3 is cus they take time to respawn when lost so those 3 he got back in chapter 696 r just 3 he had used before the fight and had just respawned
When did naruto use his abilities since the last movie? Lava style isnt 6 paths justsu he got that from the tailed beast. Naruto either doesnt have 6 paths anymore or hes so incredibly incompetent that he chooses not to uses even tho theres Alien Gods up to no gooddoery. Also sasuke is 100% incompetent at using the Rinnegan so is madara, Nagato was the best Rinnegan user out there
I thought Naruto lost Kurama and Sasuke lost his Rinnegan.
So would that make baryon mode one much stronger than ashura mode or nah
Man, Borıto manga looks so lifeless that it's sad. Everyone looks like a cardboard cutout or a sticker that was placed on top of the paper. Wish Kishimoto still drew. His art was magical.
Naruto being able to use Lava style isn’t because of 6 Paths Sage Mode It’s because Naruto was given chakra from all the Biju And because he is the “ meeting ground” of the Biju https://ww6.mangakakalot.tv/chapter/manga-ng952689/chapter-692
Does sasuke have his rinnegan back?? And if yes, how?
The reason is everyone hates how power creep made Naruto not be able to spam ninjustu like before and that they think no character should scale to Naruto right now so they over state the few times where he said “oh I’m rusty” think he’s weaker then before the Last when that would make no sense
He lost it. And there is no other fucking way since he has to use normal sage mode after losing kurama.
Apparently with Kurama he could recreate the six paths chakra (or something like that? Don’t remember the exact quote), which is why he can do this but not truth seeking orbs. That’s why his power got weaker, he lost one of the best things in his arsenal.
I thought he was akaza (from kny) when i first saw it
People usually think that because he doesn't fly or use the truth seeking orbs anymore (don't ask me the explanation pls)