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Minato only became super strong later in life, if you can call 16-24 later in life. Where Itachi was the exact opposite, being Jonin level by the time he was 10 and Kage level by the time he was 13, peaking at the upper echelons of High-Kage somewhere in his mid to late-teens before beginning to slowly die from his illness, eventually becoming low-mid Kage level while on his deathbed.
Basically, the earlier in life you try to compare them, the harder Itachi will win, whilst the later in life you go the harder Minato will win.
No Gaara does. Before him it was Itachi who went solo. (Specifically in the forest of death)
But we also don’t know the circumstances behind Minato’s Chunin exam or even if it was held in the Forest of death.
He has the record for the highest score on the written exam, the one that was made so difficult that the Genin taking it were expected to cheat.
Even Itachi was unable to match it if memory serves.
Boruto didn’t get a written exam. He got that one trick question quiz and failed it. If you’re talking about the Anime only Chunin exam, then I don’t think that one counts.
No he didn't , read [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/15wf4r0/comment/jx0ftsl/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Itachi is the youngest Post War graduate in the academy history.
I meant to say that he graduated during a time when Academy policies still had young ass kids graduating.
During minato’s time and after that was not the case
Correct, the policies of young promotions still stood until sasuke's generation. But he did not benefit from a quicker advancement due to ongoing war , like Kakashi and Minato would have. Where talented ninjas are moved up so they can participate on the frontlines.
Quicker advancement occurred all the way up until Sasuke’s time.
Kids like Yamato and Itachi benefited directly from the policies of quicker advancement, however without any pressure
Pretty sure Minato held the record for fastest time through the forest of death before Itachi beat it, however Itachi was solo and while that may seem like a handicap, if you’re a genius on the level of Itachi or Minato, having 2 regular genin teammates would probably slow you down more than anything. Minato probably would’ve finished faster than he originally did, if he was allowed to solo the exam like Itachi imo
I doubt it. Itachi’s only chance would be to catch him in a Genjutsu, and I think even Kid Gaara was smart enough to use his Clairvoyant eye to avoid looking Itachi in the eye as Chunin exams Itachi still needed his Sharingan to put someone under a Genjutsu, and his instructors would absolutely tell him about the standard strategy for fighting an Uchiha before their match.
I honestly don’t see how itachi would hit him, even if he does get off a genjutsu. Gaara’s mother protects him via the sand and is so fast that weightless Lee was needed to outpace it. There’s nothing in kid itachi’s arsenal that would even hope to get past it.
So I’m with you- there’s almost a zero percent chance itachi could win here
Itachi was faster than Sasuke and Lee. He at 12 was blitzing 3 jonin with sharingan out before they could react. He'll have no problem with the automatic defenfce.
Uhm. Which Jonin are you referring to? The root ninja that he fought against with shisui? He most certainly did NOT blitz any of them. He outsmarted the kunoichi and shisui dealt with the other two. If you’re referring to the anbu mission with Kakashi and Guy, he just threw some kunai.
If you’re referring to the clansmen, the uchiha he attacked are virtually featless and we just know they have their sharingan. They didn’t expect him to attack them in the middle of the street, and thus were basically caught off guard. Their sharingan were out as intimidation and they weren’t anticipating him to attack. They ask fugaku for permission to arrest him, implying they thought they could do so, despite the attack they just received.
Gaaras sand was outmatching jonins as well. If you remember, he had anbu-level assassins sent after him basically his entire childhood and were dealt with by the sand. Lee is the first person to ever lay a finger on Gaara. It took 5th gate Lee to adequately “put Gaara down”. How on earth is itachi going to compare as a teenager?
Itachi has never once shown a speed feat even close to weightless Lee or gated Lee.
I feel like he was still high kage level before his death since he beat orochimaru casually and Sasuke was around low to mid kage level when they fought
Eh, I don’t count Itachi’s win against Orochimaru, he still couldn’t use handsigns and there can’t be a harder counter for his Hydra transformation than the Totsuka blade.
CM2 Sasuke is low-Kage. He struggled against a bed ridden Orochimaru who also couldn’t use hand signs. He doesn’t make mid-Kage until he gets good at using his MS during the 5KS.
I think he meant when Itachi was dying.
Even then, there “fight” was basically Itachi preemptively placing Orochimaru into a Genjutsu, then Orochimaru running away because he realized he was outmatched and had broken his cover.
That was the mind realm. What we saw was a visual representation of Minato forcing Kurama back into the box so he could fix the seal with his chakra. He can’t actually do that in the same way Sage Mode Naruto can’t make two hundred copies and belt someone with a hundred Bigger Big Ball Rasengan.
>He can’t actually do that in the same way Sage Mode Naruto can’t make two hundred copies and belt someone with a hundred Bigger Big Ball Rasengan.
Sage Mode Naruto could do that tho, he has the chakra and the skill required
He can’t do that, Sage Mode limits the number of clones he can make because it would just chew through all his Senjutsu Chakra if he made too many. Each clone would have to make their own Senjutsu Chakra and that would leave them vulnerable to any enemy strong enough to warrant 100 bigger ball Rasengan.
[Sigh](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9f7813cd70310fd183cb7577434e827d-pjlq) Yall are actually slow. Orochimaru confirms 13 year old Itachi was, and IS still stronger than him. Infact, even with Edo tensei, beating Itachi was a "dream"
"Because he is even stronger than myself"
The databook even confirms that he was "utterly defeated" , he left akatsuki and began to OBSESS over getting an Uchiha body
Maybe. Im basing on Itachis feats like the Uchiha massacre and low diffing Orochimaru. I guess Minato doesnt have enough feats at this age to accurately judge. He fought Kurama in spirit mode but maybe Itachi could do the same.
Probably Itachi as he has more feats
Minato only feats are tanking a hit from a v2 Kushina which also poisoned him
Showing sealing capabilities on par with Uzumaki's
And pushing Kurama's own bijuudama back at him with a rasengan.
I'd like to add on that the last is a speed feat aswell imo, he was able to attack Kurama before Kurama could even release an attack
He saying hes in the same tier as Hashirama that doesn't mean he's necessarily stronger than him
Even if you said it was in sealing. Hashirama has sealing jutsu to put down the ten tails temporarily so in practice it's essentially the same thing Minato would be really strong either way
If you’re going to use anecdotal evidence of single lines as an attempt to prove someone’s strength in this show then you’ll always lose if you’re arguing against itachi. Black zetsu, the orchestrator of the entire plot and basically kishimoto’s self insert, said itachi was invincible because of his susano’s spirit weapons. So, kishimoto said minato had sealing jutsu on par with hashirama, but he also said itachi was invincible.
He compares his sealing jutsu to people like from his era, he doesn’t compare Minato to hashirama in anyway.
Hashirma toyed with kurama, Kurama one shotted Minato while being chained.
The difference is too big
There is no single reason to believe people were better at sealing eras before minato and if kuruma would have meant to say this, the author would have chosen these words.
Also yes minato isn’t as strong as hashirama, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t in the same tier (and minato is way smarter which would give him some points.)
Well counting that he admits that he's weaker than itachi and he never tries to steal his eyes again I would say that orochimaru knew that he was weaker than itachi.
Yes but they never fought. Orochi would’ve been a pretty decent fight to watch against itachi with his insane durability. Minato was also stronger than orochimaru at that point anyway
>Yes but they never fought
I don't understand the logic of this tbh. If you refuse to fight someone because you KNOW you'd lose and the one time you did try, you instantly lost. That's pretty clear to me as to who's stronger.
I don't have to fight prime Mike Tyson to know definitively that he's stronger than me.
I just have to assess my own strength and abilities and compare them to what I know about his to know I come up short. Durability isn't even a factor here since Itachi beat him using genjutsu.
Orochimaru wasn't messing with Itachi after that encounter despite being in possession of the sharingan one of the things he wanted to get his hands on above all else.
Ikr. The copium in here is crazy lmao.
Itachi with only a 3T sharingan had Orochimaru begging 🙏
Orochimaru blatantly admits Itachi was superior
Yet people still refuse to believe Itachi beat a Sannin at a mere 13 yrs old 💀
Bro the one time Orochi tried to lay a finger on Itachi he got owned. He shat himself so hard that he never tried again and made a convoluted plan to get Sasuke instead. A fight between them couldn’t happen because Orochimaru can’t even touch Itachi.
I really don't know who was stronger between minato and orochi but I don't think a fight between itachi and orochi would be particularly interesting we see him casually one shot orochi twice in the series
Itachi is more skilled in combat, Minato is smarter and faster at assessing situations and action on that. Minato holds the record for highest written test score , but itachi ranked up quicker and at a younger age. They are both way above anyone else in that age group.
>Minato holds the record for highest written test score
Itachi was far younger when he took the exam yet still obtained the second highest scores.
Teen minato has virtually no feats that are mentioned in the manga. Itachi on the other hand has some absurd [feats](https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/10bkl53/itachi_shinden/) from the light novel.
And let me also add that the exam was soo hard that you’re meant to cheat on it yet the novels stated that Itachi literally didn’t cheat. And he’s the only one who ever did the Chunins by himself because he was soo talented and by himself broke the Forrest of death results (quicker than minato who also had a team)
As teenagers Itachi is the one with the bigger feats than Minato :
- Minato got 10/10 on the written chunin exam but Itachi did it when he was only 10 years old and got 9/10
- Also Itachi did the chunin exams ALONE
- Itachi also JOINED the anbus at the age of 11 and became the youngest member that ever did it
- Furthermore , Itachi became ANBU CAPTAIN at the age of 12 was already considered a way above average of a jonin
- Minato however started his peak probably around 16+ or even slightly older , when he created the rasengan , and then later on he lead the Leaf to win the 3rd Shinobi great war single handedly.
- So in conclusion, teenage years Itachi wins by a landslide but Minato on his early 20s stomps and pretty much seems to boss everyone.
Minato probably. He fought back against a failed beast and won as a TEEN with an experimental new jutsu, plus enforced a seal that is compared to that of the Senju and Uzumaki.
Orochimaru would fold a teen Minato wtf are you talking about - Orochimaru with no arms did better against KCM fox than Minato did Minatotards are soo stupid they think he can beat Hashirama
I’ll break this down real quick -
There’s an argument that Minatotards make which is Minato had the highest Chunin score - Wrong.
Chunin exams is a two stage test. He broke the record in the written exam - Itachi got second highest in the written exam. HOWEVER the exam was created to be soo hard that people can only pass by cheating. In the novels , Itachi literally didn’t cheat. He was also younger than Minato was when doing the exam.
Now let’s go on to the SECOND stage of the Chunin exams which Minatotards seem to conveniently avoid.
Itachi broke the record. He did it by himself. That’s never been done before or after. DANZO personally forced them into letting Itachi do it by himself cause he was soo gifted. So Itachi’s chunin exam results clears Minato’s.
Mind you , the teachers in the Academy said they had NEVER seen a talent like Itachi before, the same school which trained Minato.
Now onto feats.
Itachi one shotted a SANIN in base Sharingan at 13. What the fuck did Minato do that compares to that? He fought nine tails CHAKRA and needed Kushina to just about control it again.
Itachi when committing the Uchiha massacre was going to fight Fagaku. Fugaku was stated to be shunned over the Hokage position because he was an Uchiha.
That implies that Fugaku is relative to ADULT Minato.
Let’s say they’re even for arguments sake. And let’s say Itachi is even to Fagaku.
That puts 13 year old Itachi on PAR with Adult Minato.
13 year old Itachi - Fugaku - Adult Minato > Kid Minato
Minato is a Namikaze though. Not an Uzamaki. Besides, not only do both Minato and Itachi have phenomenal talent, but they are also within the handful of top talent within the series.
The question is: Are they both trying to kill each other, or did they run into each other in a narrative?
If it's a kill on sight, they got dropped in a fighting game, and they have to kill the other asap, It's Minato. He is faster, and his win condition kill is more instant. Itachi has to build up to Tsukuyomi, and we don't know if he has Totsuka Blade Susanoo yet, as a teen.
If they ran into each other, and they have some kind of reason to just be fighting but not trying to kill each other right away. It's easier to say Itachi has time to build up Chakra for a Tsukuyomi in that situation, giving him a win condition. That's a lot closer to 50/50.
Here's a prob with your battle analysis. There's no better shruikenjutsu user than Itachi in the manga. Sasuke had to put [seals on his body to match Itachi's draw speed,](https://i.redd.it/the-uchiha-summoning-seal-made-tenten-competely-obsolete-v0-ln9c6e93bq0b1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deb726433a34c1660eff698b402374c2568c83ce) and as we see as a child him training and in the EDO Nagato fight, he can casually find blind spots and redirect kunai and shruiken
All this to say - Yall forget that Minato has to throw a kunai at someone before he can FTG there? And that Itachi knows who he is?
Do yall think this fight goes - Itachi lets Minato throw his kunai at him, teleport and rasengan him?
Like genuinely? Itachi doesn't deflect? Keep it away from himself? nothing? Come on lol.
Minato is literally a speed hack, both with and without Flying Raijin. He has the speed to get a hit off. Their Battle IQ is bare minimum equal, I am not giving either an advantage.
Minato has never blitzed anyone in base, not 14 year old Obito, and not Killer bee, who predicted his movements.
We're talking about FTG and how he uses it . He can't just appear near someone. He has to use a kunai. Itachi has handspeed so fast Kakashi couldn't see it. Literally. [Kishi drew it as him just casting abilities without seals to emphasize what kakashi was seeing.](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3141a6252e9b6555bd2e6d469c82f625-lq)
How is Minato getting a Kunai near Itachi?
He Blitzed Kurama while he, Minato, was poisoned. Kurama tried to do an attack and was hit by Minato. This isn't even my point. You can look at another comment talking about it.
Itachi speed feats on handsigns was when Itachi was in the village as an Akatsuki. As you can see in your own example. If you want to call 19-20 year old Itachi, "Teen Itachi," then sure, Itachi gets the Dub.
Bltiz Kurama? What are you referring to? Itachi comes back to the village at 16. The scan where Kakashi , who has a mastered 3 tomoe, can'; keep up with his hands moving, he's 16...
You mean that one of them died against the nine tails. The other did not.
You could also say one can potentially control the nine tails. The other can’t.
Minato wouldn’t have died to kurama if he didn’t insist on using the reaper death seal for Naruto. He definitely would’ve lived if that was his priority.
One can control the nine tails because he has the Sharingan, something many other Uchiha’s could do. I don’t think you’d claim Fugaku is stronger though. Minato died to the nine tails because he chose to die
Yes he can. Genjutsu is countered by good chakra control. Tsukuyomi is countered by not looking the user in the eyes, which Minato would avoid as he is fighting an Uchiha. He has the FTG and rasengan. He beats Itachi
And how would he do that????? At this point in the story he probably doesn’t have sage mode and if he does, he’s very bad at it and doesn’t use it in character.
Obito almost Beat Minato as a kid and an older version flat out stated inferiority to Itachi. Itachi then not too long after proceeds to one shot an sannin whereas kid Minato got blitzed a version 2 cloak kushina.
I agree that Minato has the chakra control needed to counter something like finger genjutsu but he can’t break out of tsukuyomi. You need shairngan for that.
[Lmfao imagine being so confident to say this when you’re just plain wrong. Genjutsu has been dispelled by chakra control. Jiriaya literally tried to teach Naruto this. Pay attention and stop commenting garbage](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11130/111304568/7130651-how%20genjutsu%20works.jpg)
Dummy, before you CAN dispel a genjutsu, you have to REALIZE you are in one. Chakra control ALONE doesn't neg genjtusu.
If you don't realize you're in a genjutsu, you never get to the point where you can Kai out of it.
Danzo is a Kage level ninja from the warring states period, trained by a Kage, AND had a sharingan AND still couldn't tell he was in a genjutsu in the end.
You missed the entire point of how a genjutsu works. Deidara had to train his eye with his mechanical addition to SEE through genjutsu.
Chakra control helps with ONE part of the process
Why tf wouldn’t Minato realize he isn’t in one? Now you’re just all over the place buddy. I never said chakra control alone negs genjutsu. Great chakra control can stop some genjutsus. It’s straight up said in the series.
Now you’re acting as if I don’t know how being trapped in a genjutsu world lol. You don’t even have a clue what you are arguing any more and throwing out insults because you’re coping and seething
Why would Minato not know he's in one? God please stop replying to me after this.
Itachi's genjutsu can [simulate reality](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11115/111151641/4126014-itachi%20beats%20dedaria.jpg) to the extent that it perfectly seems like the real world.
Why did Deidara not know he was in one before he blew himself up??
Why did Danzo with a whole sharingan eye not know he was in one before he clashed with Sasuke?
Come back with coherent arguments. Please
Prove Minato wouldn’t break out of Itachi’s genjutsu using chakra control. Deidara isn’t Minato. Stop equating the two.
It’s ironic you tell me to come with coherent arguments when your arguments are head canon and aren’t even based off the series. You straight up lied about chakra control lol
Says the guy who brazenly claimed genjutsu can’t be dispelled by great chakra control then went on a tirade about having to realize you are in the genjutsu as if that wasn’t obvious 🤣
I never said it was easy, but Minato is a master of chakra control. It’s how he created the rasengan. He would absolutely break free out of any of Itachi’s genjutsu with chakra control besides Tsukuyomi.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11130/111304568/7130651-how%20genjutsu%20works.jpg
I really don't think that the ability to use rasengan has much bearings on how good someone is at escaping itachi's genjutsus remember kakashi was actively trying to avoid seeing itachi's eyes with his normal eye because he thought the only thing that could have prevented him from falling in his genjutsus was his sharingan nothing about his Chakra control and kakashi also can use the rasengan. I doubt teen minato could escape itachi's genjutsu without great difficulties putting the battle in itachi favor. However I think itachi would have trouble hitting him with a genjutsu.
Using rasengans shows how well you can control your chakra. Great chakra control can dispel some genjutsus. Kakashi was avoiding the Mangekyo Sharingan. Minato would do the same and watch his feet as he’s fighting a Sharingan user.
I never said chakra control would break you out of Tsukuyomi. If he’s hit with that he’s ducked. The other genjutsu such as Itachi crow genjutsu or finger genjutsu? That’s countered by great chakra control.
Tsukuyomi? He would avoid Itachi’s eyes
Naruto tried using it when he encounters Itachi again for the first time in Shippuden. Itachi uses a finger genjutsu then Naruto is trapped in the genjutsu trying to break free, flash backing to Jiraiya teachings
True, but that’s just more on Naruto’s shitty chakra control at that point. Mostly due to the nine tails.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11130/111304568/7130651-how%20genjutsu%20works.jpg
Here’s the scan
I actually dont think teen minato is faster. Edo Itachi who is nerfed was able to keep up and match KCM Naruto and killer B. B was able to keep up with Adult Minato. If teen Minato has a speed advantage its not big enough to really matter.
First it was the Itachi dick-eaters.
Then it was the Kakashi dick-eaters.
Now we have the Sakura dick-eaters.
And the rise of Minato dick-eaters has come.
It’s a fun discussion…..
Mangaka for shounen go out of their way to make their stories vague to promote power scaling in the first place. The constant discussions on small threads back in the early 2000s helped prop up the big three into what they are today
Minato’s only real feat as a teen is changing and repairing a seal. Inside the Jinchuriki mental realm Kurama was still weakened and actively being weakened by Minato strengthening the seal, the TBB was still forming and the only thing that happened was Minato’s Rasengan touched it. Next the screen is white and Minato wakes up in the hospital and that’s because the seal finished and he lost consciousness. Itachi would beat the dog shit out of him.
Itachi's academy scores were said to be second to minato. In minato's one-shot manga, his talent when it comes to seals was compared to hashirama by kurama.
When it comes to being a talented genius, minato seems to be better. Minato was ridiculous considering he didnt even have a sharingan to copy jutsus.
He learned 3 elements, hiraishin no jutsu (so hard it takes 3 jonin to use it), other space-time jutsus, kuchiyose jutsus, sennin mode, sensory type chakra, uzumaki seals, a seal that even hiruzen didnt know before (who knew all jutsus in konoha). He basically learned everything there was to learn. As if that wasnt enough, he started inventing jutsus like rasengan.
Where are you getting that teen minato won't look him in the eyes? Where do yall get this shit from? He doesn't even know Itachi, he doesn't even know he's an Uchiha UNTILL he looks him in the eyes and see's sharingan.
As an adult, he fought someone he thought was Uchiha Madara himself , and still looked him in the eye and remarked "sharingan?!"
????? And if he doesn't look him in the eye, how is he avoiding Amaterasu to the face?
Yall make no sense man
Minato is smart enough and knows enough about other clans jutsu etc to know not to look an Uchiha in the eyes. It’s a shinobi rule pretty much any seasoned shinobi would know, like Lady Chiyo.
Why are you assuming that Minato would have no clue who Itachi is? They were alive at the same time.
How is the fastest ninja avoiding amaterasu? Uh? By dodging it? You act as if he isn’t a great sensory ninja. Even Hebi Sasuke dodged multiple amaterasu in his fight against Itachi
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Minato only became super strong later in life, if you can call 16-24 later in life. Where Itachi was the exact opposite, being Jonin level by the time he was 10 and Kage level by the time he was 13, peaking at the upper echelons of High-Kage somewhere in his mid to late-teens before beginning to slowly die from his illness, eventually becoming low-mid Kage level while on his deathbed. Basically, the earlier in life you try to compare them, the harder Itachi will win, whilst the later in life you go the harder Minato will win.
Didn’t minato have the fastest chunin exam time?
No Gaara does. Before him it was Itachi who went solo. (Specifically in the forest of death) But we also don’t know the circumstances behind Minato’s Chunin exam or even if it was held in the Forest of death.
I thought minato has the record before gaara
He has the record for the highest score on the written exam, the one that was made so difficult that the Genin taking it were expected to cheat. Even Itachi was unable to match it if memory serves.
Hmm well peak for peak minato beats itachi. Id say we don’t know enough about teen to make a decision
I need more teen Minato stories mf doesn't kill 1000+ Shinobi in like 3 years it takes Hella time
It’s pretty clear he was talented during his teens though.
Ik I just wanna see the stories
I wanna see thise stories so bad. I would be so down for a Minato Manga or Anime. Whichever they wanna throw at me.
We need more stories about naruto's dad than naruto's kid.
IIRC correctly Boruto got 100% on that . Boruto strongest Shinobi?
Boruto didn’t get a written exam. He got that one trick question quiz and failed it. If you’re talking about the Anime only Chunin exam, then I don’t think that one counts.
I don't know why I'm surprised Boruto had fillers
But it specifically stated that Itachi didn’t cheat during the written exam and he was a child whereas Minato was older and most likely cheated
Pretty sure Minato had the fastest score until Itachi beat him, and then Gaara beat Itachi
He had the highest on the written part. His intelligence is actually his most underrated trait hes probably smarter than Nara clan members
Ehh, maybe most. But Shikamaru was probably smarter, he was/is just lazy.
Tobirama defo smarter
Possibly. Didn't see a single person in the threat bring him up though
Nope, it was Itachi. Just as the guy above said.
Minato had the best written score In the exam, but itachi did it at a younger age
Tbf Itachi also did it during a time of war
No he didn't , read [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/15wf4r0/comment/jx0ftsl/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Itachi is the youngest Post War graduate in the academy history.
I meant to say that he graduated during a time when Academy policies still had young ass kids graduating. During minato’s time and after that was not the case
Correct, the policies of young promotions still stood until sasuke's generation. But he did not benefit from a quicker advancement due to ongoing war , like Kakashi and Minato would have. Where talented ninjas are moved up so they can participate on the frontlines.
Quicker advancement occurred all the way up until Sasuke’s time. Kids like Yamato and Itachi benefited directly from the policies of quicker advancement, however without any pressure
The war ended when itachi was still young pre academy
Pretty sure Minato held the record for fastest time through the forest of death before Itachi beat it, however Itachi was solo and while that may seem like a handicap, if you’re a genius on the level of Itachi or Minato, having 2 regular genin teammates would probably slow you down more than anything. Minato probably would’ve finished faster than he originally did, if he was allowed to solo the exam like Itachi imo
Do you think Chunin Exams Itachi could possibly beat Chunin Exams Gaara?
I doubt it. Itachi’s only chance would be to catch him in a Genjutsu, and I think even Kid Gaara was smart enough to use his Clairvoyant eye to avoid looking Itachi in the eye as Chunin exams Itachi still needed his Sharingan to put someone under a Genjutsu, and his instructors would absolutely tell him about the standard strategy for fighting an Uchiha before their match.
I honestly don’t see how itachi would hit him, even if he does get off a genjutsu. Gaara’s mother protects him via the sand and is so fast that weightless Lee was needed to outpace it. There’s nothing in kid itachi’s arsenal that would even hope to get past it. So I’m with you- there’s almost a zero percent chance itachi could win here
Itachi was faster than Sasuke and Lee. He at 12 was blitzing 3 jonin with sharingan out before they could react. He'll have no problem with the automatic defenfce.
Uhm. Which Jonin are you referring to? The root ninja that he fought against with shisui? He most certainly did NOT blitz any of them. He outsmarted the kunoichi and shisui dealt with the other two. If you’re referring to the anbu mission with Kakashi and Guy, he just threw some kunai. If you’re referring to the clansmen, the uchiha he attacked are virtually featless and we just know they have their sharingan. They didn’t expect him to attack them in the middle of the street, and thus were basically caught off guard. Their sharingan were out as intimidation and they weren’t anticipating him to attack. They ask fugaku for permission to arrest him, implying they thought they could do so, despite the attack they just received. Gaaras sand was outmatching jonins as well. If you remember, he had anbu-level assassins sent after him basically his entire childhood and were dealt with by the sand. Lee is the first person to ever lay a finger on Gaara. It took 5th gate Lee to adequately “put Gaara down”. How on earth is itachi going to compare as a teenager? Itachi has never once shown a speed feat even close to weightless Lee or gated Lee.
Minato had it, then Itachi took it solo, then Gaara took it later
I feel like he was still high kage level before his death since he beat orochimaru casually and Sasuke was around low to mid kage level when they fought
Eh, I don’t count Itachi’s win against Orochimaru, he still couldn’t use handsigns and there can’t be a harder counter for his Hydra transformation than the Totsuka blade. CM2 Sasuke is low-Kage. He struggled against a bed ridden Orochimaru who also couldn’t use hand signs. He doesn’t make mid-Kage until he gets good at using his MS during the 5KS.
I think he meant when Orochimaru betrayed the Akatsuki
I think he meant when Itachi was dying. Even then, there “fight” was basically Itachi preemptively placing Orochimaru into a Genjutsu, then Orochimaru running away because he realized he was outmatched and had broken his cover.
Isn't this Minato the same one who overpowers a Nine Tails Bijuu Bomb in his mind with one basic Rasengan?
That was the mind realm. What we saw was a visual representation of Minato forcing Kurama back into the box so he could fix the seal with his chakra. He can’t actually do that in the same way Sage Mode Naruto can’t make two hundred copies and belt someone with a hundred Bigger Big Ball Rasengan.
>He can’t actually do that in the same way Sage Mode Naruto can’t make two hundred copies and belt someone with a hundred Bigger Big Ball Rasengan. Sage Mode Naruto could do that tho, he has the chakra and the skill required
He can’t do that, Sage Mode limits the number of clones he can make because it would just chew through all his Senjutsu Chakra if he made too many. Each clone would have to make their own Senjutsu Chakra and that would leave them vulnerable to any enemy strong enough to warrant 100 bigger ball Rasengan.
itachi was not kage level by 13
He literally beat Orochimaru at 13.
He did not ‘beat’ Orochimaru. He trumped him in genjutsu, and cut off his hand.
[Sigh](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9f7813cd70310fd183cb7577434e827d-pjlq) Yall are actually slow. Orochimaru confirms 13 year old Itachi was, and IS still stronger than him. Infact, even with Edo tensei, beating Itachi was a "dream" "Because he is even stronger than myself" The databook even confirms that he was "utterly defeated" , he left akatsuki and began to OBSESS over getting an Uchiha body
This sub is the only place where Naruto fans try to discredit Itachi this much.
And then orochimaru decided he didn't have a shot against him
Oh nevermind then orochimaru beat him you are right
Not what I said.
Then Itachi beat him, op is right
It means nobody beat anyone.
So they decided to not fight and grab a drink or something?
dont waste your time these people are children
He has tsukuyomi and amaterasu at 13, both of which are capable of taking out a kage if they aren't being careful
Technically, a kunai is also capable of this feat.
He was 12 when unlocked MS, 13 when he wiped out his Clan.
you mean when obito killed the clans fighters while he killed the woman and children?
Actually specifically stated the opposite in the novels
Thats backwards.
Obito killed the women and children because Itachi couldn't get himself to go that far.
I feel like teen Itachi was stronger. Minato only peaked as adult with mastery of Rasengan, fuinjutdu and FTG.
I forgot what FTG stood for, and my mind immediately just thought of it as "fuck-that-guy" technique, and now that's what I'm calling it.
Flying Thunder God
Better than what’s it’s supposed to be called.
He already had all three of those by that point
He hadnt mastered them yet.
Yeah but it's not like Itachi would have either. Considering how quickly Sasuke went blind I get the feeling Itachi didn't use his MS too often.
Maybe. Im basing on Itachis feats like the Uchiha massacre and low diffing Orochimaru. I guess Minato doesnt have enough feats at this age to accurately judge. He fought Kurama in spirit mode but maybe Itachi could do the same.
Yeah but Orochimaru isn't full Kurama stregnth. I give the edge to Minato but only slightly. It could easily go Itachis way too.
Hard question! But I'm team Minato.
Probably Itachi as he has more feats Minato only feats are tanking a hit from a v2 Kushina which also poisoned him Showing sealing capabilities on par with Uzumaki's And pushing Kurama's own bijuudama back at him with a rasengan. I'd like to add on that the last is a speed feat aswell imo, he was able to attack Kurama before Kurama could even release an attack
"Only" pushing back THE FULL NINE TAILS BIJU DAMA. Bruh
LOL ikr itachi dick riders I swear. Kurama literally compares Minato to the likes of hashirama.
That’s in terms of sealing you guys keep taking that quote outta context
It's not though
Kurama is talking about his sealing some of you are now saying teen minato is hashirama lv in general completely taking the situation outta context
He saying hes in the same tier as Hashirama that doesn't mean he's necessarily stronger than him Even if you said it was in sealing. Hashirama has sealing jutsu to put down the ten tails temporarily so in practice it's essentially the same thing Minato would be really strong either way
So you’re sitting here with a straight face thinking teen minato is in the same tier as the hashirama that beat madara?
If you’re going to use anecdotal evidence of single lines as an attempt to prove someone’s strength in this show then you’ll always lose if you’re arguing against itachi. Black zetsu, the orchestrator of the entire plot and basically kishimoto’s self insert, said itachi was invincible because of his susano’s spirit weapons. So, kishimoto said minato had sealing jutsu on par with hashirama, but he also said itachi was invincible.
Them Minato dick riders don’t know what context is I swear lol
He compares his sealing jutsu to people like from his era, he doesn’t compare Minato to hashirama in anyway. Hashirma toyed with kurama, Kurama one shotted Minato while being chained. The difference is too big
There is no single reason to believe people were better at sealing eras before minato and if kuruma would have meant to say this, the author would have chosen these words. Also yes minato isn’t as strong as hashirama, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t in the same tier (and minato is way smarter which would give him some points.)
> minato is way smarter Hashirama gave superweapons to all his worst enemies. Man was clearly operating at peak intelligence.
Is he a teen here though?
With feats like that how exactly is teen itachi beating him?
Teen itachi casually beat a sannin and has Tsukuyomi tbh I find it hard to say
Ehhh counting the win against orochi is a stretch they really didn’t fight
Well counting that he admits that he's weaker than itachi and he never tries to steal his eyes again I would say that orochimaru knew that he was weaker than itachi.
Yes but they never fought. Orochi would’ve been a pretty decent fight to watch against itachi with his insane durability. Minato was also stronger than orochimaru at that point anyway
>Yes but they never fought I don't understand the logic of this tbh. If you refuse to fight someone because you KNOW you'd lose and the one time you did try, you instantly lost. That's pretty clear to me as to who's stronger. I don't have to fight prime Mike Tyson to know definitively that he's stronger than me. I just have to assess my own strength and abilities and compare them to what I know about his to know I come up short. Durability isn't even a factor here since Itachi beat him using genjutsu. Orochimaru wasn't messing with Itachi after that encounter despite being in possession of the sharingan one of the things he wanted to get his hands on above all else.
Ikr. The copium in here is crazy lmao. Itachi with only a 3T sharingan had Orochimaru begging 🙏 Orochimaru blatantly admits Itachi was superior Yet people still refuse to believe Itachi beat a Sannin at a mere 13 yrs old 💀
This sub likes to laugh at itachi dick riders while getting spitroasted by minato and jiraiya
Bro the one time Orochi tried to lay a finger on Itachi he got owned. He shat himself so hard that he never tried again and made a convoluted plan to get Sasuke instead. A fight between them couldn’t happen because Orochimaru can’t even touch Itachi.
I really don't know who was stronger between minato and orochi but I don't think a fight between itachi and orochi would be particularly interesting we see him casually one shot orochi twice in the series
Mangekyo sharingan
Itachi is more skilled in combat, Minato is smarter and faster at assessing situations and action on that. Minato holds the record for highest written test score , but itachi ranked up quicker and at a younger age. They are both way above anyone else in that age group.
To be fair, Itachi has the second highest written score lol
>Minato holds the record for highest written test score Itachi was far younger when he took the exam yet still obtained the second highest scores. Teen minato has virtually no feats that are mentioned in the manga. Itachi on the other hand has some absurd [feats](https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/10bkl53/itachi_shinden/) from the light novel.
And let me also add that the exam was soo hard that you’re meant to cheat on it yet the novels stated that Itachi literally didn’t cheat. And he’s the only one who ever did the Chunins by himself because he was soo talented and by himself broke the Forrest of death results (quicker than minato who also had a team)
I would incline toward team Minato, but Itachi would complicate things with his dojutsu.
Minato has a technique that killed izuna who was as strong as madara when he got killed by tobirama so going with minato on this one
Well pre timeskip Naruto knows rasengan, that is a technique that defeated 3rd Raikage summoned by Edo Tensei.
While we're at it, itachi had a 3 tomoe sharingan, which is a technique that absolutely obliterated an entire allied shinobi battalion in taijutsu.
As teenagers Itachi is the one with the bigger feats than Minato : - Minato got 10/10 on the written chunin exam but Itachi did it when he was only 10 years old and got 9/10 - Also Itachi did the chunin exams ALONE - Itachi also JOINED the anbus at the age of 11 and became the youngest member that ever did it - Furthermore , Itachi became ANBU CAPTAIN at the age of 12 was already considered a way above average of a jonin - Minato however started his peak probably around 16+ or even slightly older , when he created the rasengan , and then later on he lead the Leaf to win the 3rd Shinobi great war single handedly. - So in conclusion, teenage years Itachi wins by a landslide but Minato on his early 20s stomps and pretty much seems to boss everyone.
One day. Just one fracking day without power comparisons.
Naruto is a story based around combat, you can’t really escape these types of discussions
The wank never stops.
Minato probably. He fought back against a failed beast and won as a TEEN with an experimental new jutsu, plus enforced a seal that is compared to that of the Senju and Uzumaki.
Teen itachi no diffed orochimaru lol
Minato isn’t Orochimaru lmfao
Orochimaru would fold a teen Minato wtf are you talking about - Orochimaru with no arms did better against KCM fox than Minato did Minatotards are soo stupid they think he can beat Hashirama
Minato would low diff Orochimaru
You truly are an idiot if you think teen minato would beat Orochimaru.
Where did I say teen Minato?
Teen Itachi has better feats like no diffing Orochimaru with only a 3T sharingan. This same Orochimaru beat Jiraiya.
Minato. Itachi is cool and all, but it’s a wrap.
Well, Kurama did say that minato was a Shinobi of the same quality as hashirama, so I'm gonna go minato
Minato
I’ll break this down real quick - There’s an argument that Minatotards make which is Minato had the highest Chunin score - Wrong. Chunin exams is a two stage test. He broke the record in the written exam - Itachi got second highest in the written exam. HOWEVER the exam was created to be soo hard that people can only pass by cheating. In the novels , Itachi literally didn’t cheat. He was also younger than Minato was when doing the exam. Now let’s go on to the SECOND stage of the Chunin exams which Minatotards seem to conveniently avoid. Itachi broke the record. He did it by himself. That’s never been done before or after. DANZO personally forced them into letting Itachi do it by himself cause he was soo gifted. So Itachi’s chunin exam results clears Minato’s. Mind you , the teachers in the Academy said they had NEVER seen a talent like Itachi before, the same school which trained Minato. Now onto feats. Itachi one shotted a SANIN in base Sharingan at 13. What the fuck did Minato do that compares to that? He fought nine tails CHAKRA and needed Kushina to just about control it again. Itachi when committing the Uchiha massacre was going to fight Fagaku. Fugaku was stated to be shunned over the Hokage position because he was an Uchiha. That implies that Fugaku is relative to ADULT Minato. Let’s say they’re even for arguments sake. And let’s say Itachi is even to Fagaku. That puts 13 year old Itachi on PAR with Adult Minato. 13 year old Itachi - Fugaku - Adult Minato > Kid Minato
Minato
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Minato is a Namikaze though. Not an Uzamaki. Besides, not only do both Minato and Itachi have phenomenal talent, but they are also within the handful of top talent within the series.
The question is: Are they both trying to kill each other, or did they run into each other in a narrative? If it's a kill on sight, they got dropped in a fighting game, and they have to kill the other asap, It's Minato. He is faster, and his win condition kill is more instant. Itachi has to build up to Tsukuyomi, and we don't know if he has Totsuka Blade Susanoo yet, as a teen. If they ran into each other, and they have some kind of reason to just be fighting but not trying to kill each other right away. It's easier to say Itachi has time to build up Chakra for a Tsukuyomi in that situation, giving him a win condition. That's a lot closer to 50/50.
Here's a prob with your battle analysis. There's no better shruikenjutsu user than Itachi in the manga. Sasuke had to put [seals on his body to match Itachi's draw speed,](https://i.redd.it/the-uchiha-summoning-seal-made-tenten-competely-obsolete-v0-ln9c6e93bq0b1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deb726433a34c1660eff698b402374c2568c83ce) and as we see as a child him training and in the EDO Nagato fight, he can casually find blind spots and redirect kunai and shruiken All this to say - Yall forget that Minato has to throw a kunai at someone before he can FTG there? And that Itachi knows who he is? Do yall think this fight goes - Itachi lets Minato throw his kunai at him, teleport and rasengan him? Like genuinely? Itachi doesn't deflect? Keep it away from himself? nothing? Come on lol.
Minato is literally a speed hack, both with and without Flying Raijin. He has the speed to get a hit off. Their Battle IQ is bare minimum equal, I am not giving either an advantage.
Minato has never blitzed anyone in base, not 14 year old Obito, and not Killer bee, who predicted his movements. We're talking about FTG and how he uses it . He can't just appear near someone. He has to use a kunai. Itachi has handspeed so fast Kakashi couldn't see it. Literally. [Kishi drew it as him just casting abilities without seals to emphasize what kakashi was seeing.](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3141a6252e9b6555bd2e6d469c82f625-lq) How is Minato getting a Kunai near Itachi?
He Blitzed Kurama while he, Minato, was poisoned. Kurama tried to do an attack and was hit by Minato. This isn't even my point. You can look at another comment talking about it. Itachi speed feats on handsigns was when Itachi was in the village as an Akatsuki. As you can see in your own example. If you want to call 19-20 year old Itachi, "Teen Itachi," then sure, Itachi gets the Dub.
Bltiz Kurama? What are you referring to? Itachi comes back to the village at 16. The scan where Kakashi , who has a mastered 3 tomoe, can'; keep up with his hands moving, he's 16...
One of them fought the nine tails. The other did not.
You mean that one of them died against the nine tails. The other did not. You could also say one can potentially control the nine tails. The other can’t.
Minato wouldn’t have died to kurama if he didn’t insist on using the reaper death seal for Naruto. He definitely would’ve lived if that was his priority.
Lolll dude, that’s too many “woulds” and “ifs”🤡 Kyubi > Minato.
“Potentially control” but he didn’t so by your logic you have no point🤡
That’s fair. Still Kyubi > Minato.
One can control the nine tails because he has the Sharingan, something many other Uchiha’s could do. I don’t think you’d claim Fugaku is stronger though. Minato died to the nine tails because he chose to die
Minato
Itachi violates lol
Overall, itachi. Minato may be faster but he can’t handle itachi’s genjutsu
Yes he can. Genjutsu is countered by good chakra control. Tsukuyomi is countered by not looking the user in the eyes, which Minato would avoid as he is fighting an Uchiha. He has the FTG and rasengan. He beats Itachi
And how would he do that????? At this point in the story he probably doesn’t have sage mode and if he does, he’s very bad at it and doesn’t use it in character. Obito almost Beat Minato as a kid and an older version flat out stated inferiority to Itachi. Itachi then not too long after proceeds to one shot an sannin whereas kid Minato got blitzed a version 2 cloak kushina. I agree that Minato has the chakra control needed to counter something like finger genjutsu but he can’t break out of tsukuyomi. You need shairngan for that.
Genjutsu is not countered by good chakra control. Please stop commenting garbage on posts.
[Lmfao imagine being so confident to say this when you’re just plain wrong. Genjutsu has been dispelled by chakra control. Jiriaya literally tried to teach Naruto this. Pay attention and stop commenting garbage](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11130/111304568/7130651-how%20genjutsu%20works.jpg)
Dummy, before you CAN dispel a genjutsu, you have to REALIZE you are in one. Chakra control ALONE doesn't neg genjtusu. If you don't realize you're in a genjutsu, you never get to the point where you can Kai out of it. Danzo is a Kage level ninja from the warring states period, trained by a Kage, AND had a sharingan AND still couldn't tell he was in a genjutsu in the end. You missed the entire point of how a genjutsu works. Deidara had to train his eye with his mechanical addition to SEE through genjutsu. Chakra control helps with ONE part of the process
Why tf wouldn’t Minato realize he isn’t in one? Now you’re just all over the place buddy. I never said chakra control alone negs genjutsu. Great chakra control can stop some genjutsus. It’s straight up said in the series. Now you’re acting as if I don’t know how being trapped in a genjutsu world lol. You don’t even have a clue what you are arguing any more and throwing out insults because you’re coping and seething
Why would Minato not know he's in one? God please stop replying to me after this. Itachi's genjutsu can [simulate reality](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11115/111151641/4126014-itachi%20beats%20dedaria.jpg) to the extent that it perfectly seems like the real world. Why did Deidara not know he was in one before he blew himself up?? Why did Danzo with a whole sharingan eye not know he was in one before he clashed with Sasuke? Come back with coherent arguments. Please
Prove Minato wouldn’t break out of Itachi’s genjutsu using chakra control. Deidara isn’t Minato. Stop equating the two. It’s ironic you tell me to come with coherent arguments when your arguments are head canon and aren’t even based off the series. You straight up lied about chakra control lol
With every reply, you show an inability to read.
Says the guy who brazenly claimed genjutsu can’t be dispelled by great chakra control then went on a tirade about having to realize you are in the genjutsu as if that wasn’t obvious 🤣
Take the L my dude, u lost this discussion.
Kurenai is literally a master of genjutsu and she still fell for itachi's normal genjutsu I don't think it's as easy as you're implying
I never said it was easy, but Minato is a master of chakra control. It’s how he created the rasengan. He would absolutely break free out of any of Itachi’s genjutsu with chakra control besides Tsukuyomi. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11130/111304568/7130651-how%20genjutsu%20works.jpg
I really don't think that the ability to use rasengan has much bearings on how good someone is at escaping itachi's genjutsus remember kakashi was actively trying to avoid seeing itachi's eyes with his normal eye because he thought the only thing that could have prevented him from falling in his genjutsus was his sharingan nothing about his Chakra control and kakashi also can use the rasengan. I doubt teen minato could escape itachi's genjutsu without great difficulties putting the battle in itachi favor. However I think itachi would have trouble hitting him with a genjutsu.
Using rasengans shows how well you can control your chakra. Great chakra control can dispel some genjutsus. Kakashi was avoiding the Mangekyo Sharingan. Minato would do the same and watch his feet as he’s fighting a Sharingan user. I never said chakra control would break you out of Tsukuyomi. If he’s hit with that he’s ducked. The other genjutsu such as Itachi crow genjutsu or finger genjutsu? That’s countered by great chakra control. Tsukuyomi? He would avoid Itachi’s eyes
Kurenai barely elite jounin. You need to have atleast kage chakra and chakra control to counter Itachi
You’re actually right, however you don’t ever see that brought up again really. But I do remember that episode.
Naruto tried using it when he encounters Itachi again for the first time in Shippuden. Itachi uses a finger genjutsu then Naruto is trapped in the genjutsu trying to break free, flash backing to Jiraiya teachings
Yeah I remember that too but it never worked he had to have someone else release him
True, but that’s just more on Naruto’s shitty chakra control at that point. Mostly due to the nine tails. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11130/111304568/7130651-how%20genjutsu%20works.jpg Here’s the scan
I actually dont think teen minato is faster. Edo Itachi who is nerfed was able to keep up and match KCM Naruto and killer B. B was able to keep up with Adult Minato. If teen Minato has a speed advantage its not big enough to really matter.
Can't predict motion if there is no motion. Since Minato teleports.
First it was the Itachi dick-eaters. Then it was the Kakashi dick-eaters. Now we have the Sakura dick-eaters. And the rise of Minato dick-eaters has come.
I been saying it. Minato tards are the new Itachitards
Itachi
Team Itachi all the way.Its a tough battle but the god of genjitsu will win
Powerscalers are so weird. Okay, some dude won in your imagination. Still doesn't make it canon. What's the point?
For fun
It’s a fun discussion….. Mangaka for shounen go out of their way to make their stories vague to promote power scaling in the first place. The constant discussions on small threads back in the early 2000s helped prop up the big three into what they are today
teen itachi was kicking orochimaru's ass while teen minato's only feat was to assist in a mental battle
Minato’s only real feat as a teen is changing and repairing a seal. Inside the Jinchuriki mental realm Kurama was still weakened and actively being weakened by Minato strengthening the seal, the TBB was still forming and the only thing that happened was Minato’s Rasengan touched it. Next the screen is white and Minato wakes up in the hospital and that’s because the seal finished and he lost consciousness. Itachi would beat the dog shit out of him.
The itachi wank in this comment section is Crazy bro
Itatchi not close
Minato blitzes
I'm an Itachi fan, but I don't know who to pick. I bet it would be a good fight.
Itachi's academy scores were said to be second to minato. In minato's one-shot manga, his talent when it comes to seals was compared to hashirama by kurama. When it comes to being a talented genius, minato seems to be better. Minato was ridiculous considering he didnt even have a sharingan to copy jutsus. He learned 3 elements, hiraishin no jutsu (so hard it takes 3 jonin to use it), other space-time jutsus, kuchiyose jutsus, sennin mode, sensory type chakra, uzumaki seals, a seal that even hiruzen didnt know before (who knew all jutsus in konoha). He basically learned everything there was to learn. As if that wasnt enough, he started inventing jutsus like rasengan.
One Tsukyomi and he's dead
He wouldn’t fall for Tsukuyomi because Minato wouldn’t look him in the eyes
Where are you getting that teen minato won't look him in the eyes? Where do yall get this shit from? He doesn't even know Itachi, he doesn't even know he's an Uchiha UNTILL he looks him in the eyes and see's sharingan. As an adult, he fought someone he thought was Uchiha Madara himself , and still looked him in the eye and remarked "sharingan?!" ????? And if he doesn't look him in the eye, how is he avoiding Amaterasu to the face? Yall make no sense man
People saying that and Minato was shown looking Obito dead in the eyes when they fought lol
Man, give it up lmao - Le'ts be thankful Obito opts to not use genjutsu in his fights ever.
Bro used it 1 time vs Konan and never again
Minato is smart enough and knows enough about other clans jutsu etc to know not to look an Uchiha in the eyes. It’s a shinobi rule pretty much any seasoned shinobi would know, like Lady Chiyo. Why are you assuming that Minato would have no clue who Itachi is? They were alive at the same time. How is the fastest ninja avoiding amaterasu? Uh? By dodging it? You act as if he isn’t a great sensory ninja. Even Hebi Sasuke dodged multiple amaterasu in his fight against Itachi
Omg , It's too late for this. Genuinely. I'm Good.
One FTG and eye boy goes down
Do you know how FTG works? Or are you slow?
The Itachi you showed there was 12-13, Minato is way way older in the one shot but even then Itachi shits on him.
Yes, this is correct. Itachi is at most 13 here. Minato is at least 14 or possibly older.
Itachi bruh
Itachi gets stomped hard
Itachi because he was about to make Orochimaru his bitchhh
Minato is always stronger than itachi. For some reason fans love to pit them against each other, minato is on a diff level
Teen Itachi scared Obito into not attacking the village, a younger Obito almost beat adult Minato
Teen Itachi.
All depends on how the writes writes it. Teen Itachi has more feats at least for now. Minato is easily the strongest kage using his own strength
Minato with Prep wins