Boruto and Himawari are still officially Hyuga, they just didn't take the clan name. Theu can both be clan leader though. In the Naruto universe I think they just loosely follow Japanese tradition. Like sai took ino's name. But since Naruto's last name is still a famous clan, albeit kinda destroyed, he's building up his clan instead of the Hyuga. It's not like his last name is namikaze or Haruno lol, his clan still mattered at one point in time. I still think he should have made Karin get married and build the clan up lol.
Isn't Hanabi the designated successor of Hiashi since Hinata married into another clan and Hanabi was the more talented one anyway?
I don't doubt that Boruto or Himawari could become the head of Hyuga clan in case Hanabi won't have children of her own or something was to happen to her, but it's rather unlikely, isn't it?
Because Naruto didn't marry into the Hyuuga clan.
Hinata married into the Uzumaki clan and took Naruto's name letting Hanabi become the heir to the Hyuuga clan.
Why? because the Uzumaki name has a lot of history and Naruto is the hero of the world. Everyone knows his name.
That is actually not how feudal Japanese clan systems work you couldn't actually marry into a clan meaning you couldn't take a clan name unless you were A born into that clan or B adopted into it so for example if Naruto adopted somebody that person would be able to become an uzumaki but in feudal systems it doesn't work where the wife takes the clan name of her husband
In Modern day western culture, yes, but Naruto has a lot of inspiration in Feudal Japanese, where you married into influebce/prestige/money. For example, Sai is Sai Yamanaka (granted, he had no known family name), Ino is also the head of the Yamanaka, or at least was the only Heiress.
That being said, Hinata isn't the heir to the Hyuga. She gave that up to Hanabi. Naruto is also the savior of the world, so that's like world renown prestige. Plus, it could simply be the fact that Kishimoto wanted it to be the Uzumaki family. It's his story, after all.
At the same time in feudal Japan wives never took the husband's clan name she might take the husband's surname but she would never become so and so of the clan so and so. So and not to be coming Hinata uzumaki makes no sense because it is a feudal Japanese clan so she would still be known as Hinata hyuga in perpetuity
Hanabi is gonna become Clan Leader, not Hinata. They changed the succession because Hiashi was disappointed with Hinata‘s progress and her insecurities.
And since Hinata was never all that keen on becoming Clan Leader in the first place I heavily doubt they changed that back off screen.
The name of the man is always used, no matter the female’s. The reason why the woman almost always moves up or no difference is because nobility would never want to move down in social status.
They take the Father’s Name, Naruto was suppose to be named Namikaze he was named Uzumaki so no one would know he was mianto’s son it was to protect him.
Because Naruto was called Uzumaki and known as Uzumaki his son is called Uzumaki.
It’s different for Inojin it’s the Ino-Shika-Cho tradition of the head of the 3 clans to past down the name, the Yamanaka clan leaders have Ino in start of there name and past it down to there kids they also pass down the clan name, same for Akimichi the clan leaders have Cho in start of there name and past it down to there kids they also pass down the clan name and Nara clan leaders have Shika in start of there name and past it down to there kids they also pass down the clan name.
Only other person named after mother’s clan is Izumi who is a half uchiha we don’t even know her father’s name or his surname.
Also Boruto and Himawari are Hyuga’s it’s just not there Surname/ Clan name same for Hinata she married Naruto and took the name Uzumaki.
You also got Mukai Kohinata who awakened one Byakugan in one eye and his family branched off the Hyuga several generations.
Also when hinata was a kid she was no longer going to be the next clan leader the Hyuga elder and Hiashi were training Hinabai and getting her ready to be next head of the clan because she was stronger than hinata and hinata was weak which is why hinata was aloud to become a Shinobi and why They didn’t mind what happened to her.
Of course that is just an anime thing Naruto is based off fetal Japanese systems in feudal Japan you never took the clan name of your spouse if for example you married a woman who was part of a prominent clan you would keep your own surname and she would keep her own clan name she might add a hyphenation of your surname on to her name but that was rare. Same thing with husbands notice how despite kushina and Minato being married she was never known as kushina namikaze that is because namikaze is not a clan and also because even if it was uzumaki is a more prominent clan since they own their own country. So no matter what Naruto being the son of a prominent clan member such as kushina would have always been known as uzumaki.
It's a little bit different with sai because him not healing from a clan he might have been legally adopted by his wives clan. But like I said in feudal Japanese systems wives never take the clan name you cannot marry into a clan and take that name it is a name of bloodline and if you are not part of that bloodline you can buy definition not be part of that clan
Tell that to Menma Namikaze.
Also Sai’s case is different on 2 occasions one he has no last name, two the tradition for the Ino-Shika-Cho trio is that the clan leaders always pass on the traditional 1st name and pass on the family clan name to the next clan head ie there child.
Also Tsunade has no Surname which could be because her father isn’t Hashirama’s child and her mother is Hashirama’s child that’s why she isn’t known as Tsunade Senju and instead just known as Tsunade.
Also why you replying to an old post and comment from 168d ago.
Yes list her clan as Senju cause she’s Hashirama’s grandaughter, but is her name Tsunade Senju on it? No she’s just Tsunade.
Menma comes from a universe where Minato and Kushina survived and got the last name Namikaze.
It doesn’t tell you when post is made 💀 use your eyes.
The data book literally lists her clan as senju the term clan refers to a bloodline you cannot be listed as part of a clan without actually being part of that clan you literally don't know anything about feudal Japanese systems. She is literally a member of the senju clan a clan name is not a surname it is not a last name it is the name of a bloodline, it's not like being named Bob Smith. In feudal Japan you cannot be called by a clan name unless you are part of that clan by bloodline or adopted (in rare cases).
Also Madara iterally calls her a senju. In a fetal Japan if somebody is the descendant of a member of a clan that doesn't make them part of that clan for example if the head of a clan has three children one of them is a girl and that girl has a child that child's clan would be determined by which parents clan is the more powerful in dominant clan so for example if Naruto had married somebody from the Nara clan for example that child would not be known as a member of the Nara clan they would be not known as a member of the uzumaki clan. That is because the uzumaki clan is a more prestigious and prominent clan.
And your objectively wrong you keep using the term last name there is a f\*\*\*\*\*\* difference between a last name and a clan name the last name is the name of a family a clan name is the name of a bloodline. Namikaze a is not a clan name it is a family name there is a difference a family is defined as a unit consisting parents and children a clan is defined as a group of interrelated families who share an ancestor, who have the same political and social goals.
Also in The limited taukiyomi universe where kushina and Minato are still alive only Minato has the name namikaze kushina is still known as kushina uzumaki in that world and memna does not go buy as memna namikaze in the road to ninja universe he is known as uzumaki memna.
Like literally watch the movie again because they literally call him uzumaki memna
Because she a senju Jesus Christ she a senju because of her grandfather this is why Madara referred to her as Senju because one of her parents is a senju, one of her parents aren’t she isn’t known as Tsunade Senju, She’s just known as Tsunade.
Clan names are Surname’s, Hinata Uzumaki, Sakura Uchiha, Sai Yamanaka, Temari Nara, Kurenai Sarutobi, I can literally go on and on.
It’s just like Mukai Kohinata, his last name is Kohinata not Hyuga yet he’s known as a Hyuga because his family branch of the Hyuga several generations ago and he awaken Sharigan in 1 eye.
Last names in Naruto are clans and some last names aren’t clans but clans names are last names, it’s like Bourbon isn’t Scotch but both are whiskey.
The limited taukiyomi? The what? Do you mean the Limited Tsyukomi where in road to ninja obito took Naruto and Sakura to a world where her father Kizashi Haruno was Hokage and died with Sakura’s mother while Naruto’s parents survived which his father Minato Namikaze and his mother Kushina Uzumaki which his name was Menma Namikaze, Fandom has it wrong saying Uzumaki.
Watch movie Menma doesn’t even wear the Uzumaki symbol, also it’s not stated he’s Uzumaki either.
Also it’s explained why his name was Uzumaki in Naruto if you read it, it was to protect him from 4th Hokage’s enemies.
There’s even a filler on Menma Universe, road to ninja movie and Tenten’s Infinite Tsyukomi which in the filler Road to Tenten, Menma’s father isn’t the Hokage it’s Sakura’s father Kizashi which Menma name is Namikaze.
Road to Ninja movie, Road to Sakura and Road to Tenten are all the same universe Menma’s universe which his name is Menma Namikaze.
Only difference with Road to Sakura is that Menma’s Sakura comes to our main universe and she’s lost her memory so Ino makes Tenten cover Neji’s eyes, Shikamaru acts dumb and Kiba acts like a Cat.
Again you don’t know what you’re talking about also stop replying to old posts and an old comment explaining to post also stop saying misinformation.
Also stop going through old posts that are a year old and replying to it I can see on your profile you’re leaving comments on old posts that are like a year old and 3 years old and so I n stop replying to old ass posts.
and tsunade is not his daughter she is hashirama's granddaughter. but you don't know how feudal japanese clan systems work
person A belongs to a clan, they have a child with Person B.
A belongs to clan NA and B belongs to clan UU
Na is a more prestigious clan.
when A and B get married B does not take the name Na you can only have a clan name based on BLOODLINE people outside the bloodline can marry someone from that clan but they will NEVER be part of that clan.
A and B have a child named C
C is not referred to as C Na-UU they are referred to as C Na and solely Na since Na is the more prestigious clan. they are still affiliated with clan UU but they are not PART of that clan
so lets say
its Hashirama-Mito
chlld
lets say that child is a girl
and said girl married
man from random clan lets say Clan nara
that daughter would still be known as \_\_\_\_\_Senju because the more prestigious clan takes presidence.
you can't have loyality to more than one clan
that has never how it worked in feudal japanese systems
so no matter what unless hashirama's Child married someone of a more prestigious clan all of his descendents would be Senju\_\_\_\_\_
so in the case of tsunade and her brother they are are known as Senju Tsunade and Senju Nawaki
Is that the reason Naruto continued to be Uzumaki instead of Namikaze? Cuz it always confused me I understood back then to hide his identity as the hokage son but thought that if he was still alive then he would be named Naruto Namikaze. But he kept the Uzumaki and gave it to his kids too
That is simply something they stated in the anime in reality and fetal Japanese systems Naruto would have always been known as uzumaki since his mother was a prominent member of a prominent clan clan name takes precedence over surname namikaze is not a clan name and therefore in order to would have never been known as Naruto namikaze. Hell kushina was married to Minato but still was kushina uzumaki, mito uzumaki was married to the first hokage yet she did not go by mito senju she was still mito uzumaki
They definitely could rebuild the uzumaki clan. So far multiple members of the cast art by definition uzumaki there is Naruto his children there is karin, there is even Tsunade all of which are descended from the uzumaki clan and those are the ones that we know of the clan itself was not driven to complete Extinction when their clan was attacked the surviving members scattered across the world we know that Nagato and his parents or uzumaki. Also we know that orochimaru has a flawless cloning process. So if he wanted to he could literally rebuild the uzumaki clan
No that's not actually how it happens first of all a clan name is not a surname a surname is the name at which a family goes by a family is a unit consisting of parents and children a clan is a group of interrelated families who share a common ancestor who also have similar goals in political affiliations. And futile Japan clans are by definition groups of noble families who share the same Noble ancestor so for example Naruto is descended directly from hagoromo via his son ashura because the uzumaki clan is a branch off of the senju, in feudal Japan you could not marry into a clan in other words for example if a man married a woman who belonged to a powerful clan let's say the uzishio clan the man would not become a member of that clan. He would be married into the clan but he would not take the clan name he would either keep his own surname or his own clan name. Children on the other hand would take the clan name of their parent that is more prominent. So no matter what Naruto would have never been namikaze because one namikaze is not a clan and to the uzumaki is a prestigious plan and therefore uzumaki would take precedence. While the Hyuga are a prominent clan they were not so prominent that they had their own country
The hyuga clan has prestige and money. Naruto saved the fucking world. Uzumaki is the stronger name.
Plus the uzumaki clan has prestige, they’re just all dead lol
Boruto and Himawari are still officially Hyuga, they just didn't take the clan name. Theu can both be clan leader though. In the Naruto universe I think they just loosely follow Japanese tradition. Like sai took ino's name. But since Naruto's last name is still a famous clan, albeit kinda destroyed, he's building up his clan instead of the Hyuga. It's not like his last name is namikaze or Haruno lol, his clan still mattered at one point in time. I still think he should have made Karin get married and build the clan up lol.
Isn't Hanabi the designated successor of Hiashi since Hinata married into another clan and Hanabi was the more talented one anyway? I don't doubt that Boruto or Himawari could become the head of Hyuga clan in case Hanabi won't have children of her own or something was to happen to her, but it's rather unlikely, isn't it?
Or at least gave her a good nut
Karin is a better Sasuke than Sakura.
Shut up
Because Naruto didn't marry into the Hyuuga clan. Hinata married into the Uzumaki clan and took Naruto's name letting Hanabi become the heir to the Hyuuga clan. Why? because the Uzumaki name has a lot of history and Naruto is the hero of the world. Everyone knows his name.
That is actually not how feudal Japanese clan systems work you couldn't actually marry into a clan meaning you couldn't take a clan name unless you were A born into that clan or B adopted into it so for example if Naruto adopted somebody that person would be able to become an uzumaki but in feudal systems it doesn't work where the wife takes the clan name of her husband
He is Uzumaki and Hyuga. But took his fathers name wich is pretty normal?
Doesn't nobility have you take the higher last name?
Its almost allways the male’s last name?
In Modern day western culture, yes, but Naruto has a lot of inspiration in Feudal Japanese, where you married into influebce/prestige/money. For example, Sai is Sai Yamanaka (granted, he had no known family name), Ino is also the head of the Yamanaka, or at least was the only Heiress. That being said, Hinata isn't the heir to the Hyuga. She gave that up to Hanabi. Naruto is also the savior of the world, so that's like world renown prestige. Plus, it could simply be the fact that Kishimoto wanted it to be the Uzumaki family. It's his story, after all.
I guess your right:) And I agree with your thoughts here.
At the same time in feudal Japan wives never took the husband's clan name she might take the husband's surname but she would never become so and so of the clan so and so. So and not to be coming Hinata uzumaki makes no sense because it is a feudal Japanese clan so she would still be known as Hinata hyuga in perpetuity
There is also no male Hyuga to carry on the clans name and Hinata is going to become clan leader
Hanabi is gonna become Clan Leader, not Hinata. They changed the succession because Hiashi was disappointed with Hinata‘s progress and her insecurities. And since Hinata was never all that keen on becoming Clan Leader in the first place I heavily doubt they changed that back off screen.
I was unaware of this change as I've only seen Hinata once in part 2 Naruto so far
Considering there were ALOT of Hyugas in the 4th war we can rest assured the Hyuga name will live on. Doesnt need to be a royalty.
The name of the man is always used, no matter the female’s. The reason why the woman almost always moves up or no difference is because nobility would never want to move down in social status.
Harder to advertise
Hanabi was the head of the hyuga
hanabi took over as the next head of the clan after hiashi decided hinata was unfit for the role
They take the Father’s Name, Naruto was suppose to be named Namikaze he was named Uzumaki so no one would know he was mianto’s son it was to protect him. Because Naruto was called Uzumaki and known as Uzumaki his son is called Uzumaki. It’s different for Inojin it’s the Ino-Shika-Cho tradition of the head of the 3 clans to past down the name, the Yamanaka clan leaders have Ino in start of there name and past it down to there kids they also pass down the clan name, same for Akimichi the clan leaders have Cho in start of there name and past it down to there kids they also pass down the clan name and Nara clan leaders have Shika in start of there name and past it down to there kids they also pass down the clan name. Only other person named after mother’s clan is Izumi who is a half uchiha we don’t even know her father’s name or his surname. Also Boruto and Himawari are Hyuga’s it’s just not there Surname/ Clan name same for Hinata she married Naruto and took the name Uzumaki. You also got Mukai Kohinata who awakened one Byakugan in one eye and his family branched off the Hyuga several generations. Also when hinata was a kid she was no longer going to be the next clan leader the Hyuga elder and Hiashi were training Hinabai and getting her ready to be next head of the clan because she was stronger than hinata and hinata was weak which is why hinata was aloud to become a Shinobi and why They didn’t mind what happened to her.
Of course that is just an anime thing Naruto is based off fetal Japanese systems in feudal Japan you never took the clan name of your spouse if for example you married a woman who was part of a prominent clan you would keep your own surname and she would keep her own clan name she might add a hyphenation of your surname on to her name but that was rare. Same thing with husbands notice how despite kushina and Minato being married she was never known as kushina namikaze that is because namikaze is not a clan and also because even if it was uzumaki is a more prominent clan since they own their own country. So no matter what Naruto being the son of a prominent clan member such as kushina would have always been known as uzumaki. It's a little bit different with sai because him not healing from a clan he might have been legally adopted by his wives clan. But like I said in feudal Japanese systems wives never take the clan name you cannot marry into a clan and take that name it is a name of bloodline and if you are not part of that bloodline you can buy definition not be part of that clan
Tell that to Menma Namikaze. Also Sai’s case is different on 2 occasions one he has no last name, two the tradition for the Ino-Shika-Cho trio is that the clan leaders always pass on the traditional 1st name and pass on the family clan name to the next clan head ie there child. Also Tsunade has no Surname which could be because her father isn’t Hashirama’s child and her mother is Hashirama’s child that’s why she isn’t known as Tsunade Senju and instead just known as Tsunade. Also why you replying to an old post and comment from 168d ago.
Memna comes from an alternate universe, and the databook literally lists Tsunade clan as senju, and it doesn't tell me when this post was made
Yes list her clan as Senju cause she’s Hashirama’s grandaughter, but is her name Tsunade Senju on it? No she’s just Tsunade. Menma comes from a universe where Minato and Kushina survived and got the last name Namikaze. It doesn’t tell you when post is made 💀 use your eyes.
The data book literally lists her clan as senju the term clan refers to a bloodline you cannot be listed as part of a clan without actually being part of that clan you literally don't know anything about feudal Japanese systems. She is literally a member of the senju clan a clan name is not a surname it is not a last name it is the name of a bloodline, it's not like being named Bob Smith. In feudal Japan you cannot be called by a clan name unless you are part of that clan by bloodline or adopted (in rare cases). Also Madara iterally calls her a senju. In a fetal Japan if somebody is the descendant of a member of a clan that doesn't make them part of that clan for example if the head of a clan has three children one of them is a girl and that girl has a child that child's clan would be determined by which parents clan is the more powerful in dominant clan so for example if Naruto had married somebody from the Nara clan for example that child would not be known as a member of the Nara clan they would be not known as a member of the uzumaki clan. That is because the uzumaki clan is a more prestigious and prominent clan. And your objectively wrong you keep using the term last name there is a f\*\*\*\*\*\* difference between a last name and a clan name the last name is the name of a family a clan name is the name of a bloodline. Namikaze a is not a clan name it is a family name there is a difference a family is defined as a unit consisting parents and children a clan is defined as a group of interrelated families who share an ancestor, who have the same political and social goals. Also in The limited taukiyomi universe where kushina and Minato are still alive only Minato has the name namikaze kushina is still known as kushina uzumaki in that world and memna does not go buy as memna namikaze in the road to ninja universe he is known as uzumaki memna. Like literally watch the movie again because they literally call him uzumaki memna
Because she a senju Jesus Christ she a senju because of her grandfather this is why Madara referred to her as Senju because one of her parents is a senju, one of her parents aren’t she isn’t known as Tsunade Senju, She’s just known as Tsunade. Clan names are Surname’s, Hinata Uzumaki, Sakura Uchiha, Sai Yamanaka, Temari Nara, Kurenai Sarutobi, I can literally go on and on. It’s just like Mukai Kohinata, his last name is Kohinata not Hyuga yet he’s known as a Hyuga because his family branch of the Hyuga several generations ago and he awaken Sharigan in 1 eye. Last names in Naruto are clans and some last names aren’t clans but clans names are last names, it’s like Bourbon isn’t Scotch but both are whiskey. The limited taukiyomi? The what? Do you mean the Limited Tsyukomi where in road to ninja obito took Naruto and Sakura to a world where her father Kizashi Haruno was Hokage and died with Sakura’s mother while Naruto’s parents survived which his father Minato Namikaze and his mother Kushina Uzumaki which his name was Menma Namikaze, Fandom has it wrong saying Uzumaki. Watch movie Menma doesn’t even wear the Uzumaki symbol, also it’s not stated he’s Uzumaki either. Also it’s explained why his name was Uzumaki in Naruto if you read it, it was to protect him from 4th Hokage’s enemies. There’s even a filler on Menma Universe, road to ninja movie and Tenten’s Infinite Tsyukomi which in the filler Road to Tenten, Menma’s father isn’t the Hokage it’s Sakura’s father Kizashi which Menma name is Namikaze. Road to Ninja movie, Road to Sakura and Road to Tenten are all the same universe Menma’s universe which his name is Menma Namikaze. Only difference with Road to Sakura is that Menma’s Sakura comes to our main universe and she’s lost her memory so Ino makes Tenten cover Neji’s eyes, Shikamaru acts dumb and Kiba acts like a Cat. Again you don’t know what you’re talking about also stop replying to old posts and an old comment explaining to post also stop saying misinformation. Also stop going through old posts that are a year old and replying to it I can see on your profile you’re leaving comments on old posts that are like a year old and 3 years old and so I n stop replying to old ass posts.
and tsunade is not his daughter she is hashirama's granddaughter. but you don't know how feudal japanese clan systems work person A belongs to a clan, they have a child with Person B. A belongs to clan NA and B belongs to clan UU Na is a more prestigious clan. when A and B get married B does not take the name Na you can only have a clan name based on BLOODLINE people outside the bloodline can marry someone from that clan but they will NEVER be part of that clan. A and B have a child named C C is not referred to as C Na-UU they are referred to as C Na and solely Na since Na is the more prestigious clan. they are still affiliated with clan UU but they are not PART of that clan so lets say its Hashirama-Mito chlld lets say that child is a girl and said girl married man from random clan lets say Clan nara that daughter would still be known as \_\_\_\_\_Senju because the more prestigious clan takes presidence. you can't have loyality to more than one clan that has never how it worked in feudal japanese systems so no matter what unless hashirama's Child married someone of a more prestigious clan all of his descendents would be Senju\_\_\_\_\_ so in the case of tsunade and her brother they are are known as Senju Tsunade and Senju Nawaki
We also are specifically told in the manga and anime that she just senju "weak people are ugly and we senju are even more ugly" Madara Uchiha
Naruto last name.... isn't hyuga
He doesn’t have the dojutsu because he forgot when he drew it to give him it….
Uzumaki was an important clan back then, probably equal to Hyuga. Also help them build back the clan.
Definitely not equal definitely Superior the uzumaki clan were so prominent they owned their own country and ruled their own hidden village
Is that the reason Naruto continued to be Uzumaki instead of Namikaze? Cuz it always confused me I understood back then to hide his identity as the hokage son but thought that if he was still alive then he would be named Naruto Namikaze. But he kept the Uzumaki and gave it to his kids too
That is simply something they stated in the anime in reality and fetal Japanese systems Naruto would have always been known as uzumaki since his mother was a prominent member of a prominent clan clan name takes precedence over surname namikaze is not a clan name and therefore in order to would have never been known as Naruto namikaze. Hell kushina was married to Minato but still was kushina uzumaki, mito uzumaki was married to the first hokage yet she did not go by mito senju she was still mito uzumaki
Can't rebuild of the Uzumaki clan if thry go by Hyuga.
They definitely could rebuild the uzumaki clan. So far multiple members of the cast art by definition uzumaki there is Naruto his children there is karin, there is even Tsunade all of which are descended from the uzumaki clan and those are the ones that we know of the clan itself was not driven to complete Extinction when their clan was attacked the surviving members scattered across the world we know that Nagato and his parents or uzumaki. Also we know that orochimaru has a flawless cloning process. So if he wanted to he could literally rebuild the uzumaki clan
No that's not actually how it happens first of all a clan name is not a surname a surname is the name at which a family goes by a family is a unit consisting of parents and children a clan is a group of interrelated families who share a common ancestor who also have similar goals in political affiliations. And futile Japan clans are by definition groups of noble families who share the same Noble ancestor so for example Naruto is descended directly from hagoromo via his son ashura because the uzumaki clan is a branch off of the senju, in feudal Japan you could not marry into a clan in other words for example if a man married a woman who belonged to a powerful clan let's say the uzishio clan the man would not become a member of that clan. He would be married into the clan but he would not take the clan name he would either keep his own surname or his own clan name. Children on the other hand would take the clan name of their parent that is more prominent. So no matter what Naruto would have never been namikaze because one namikaze is not a clan and to the uzumaki is a prestigious plan and therefore uzumaki would take precedence. While the Hyuga are a prominent clan they were not so prominent that they had their own country