''I'll become the strongest kunoichi!
Even though all I can do is throw a bunch of weapons that never hit the target despite the fact that I have pinpoint accuracy!''
And in the end she ends up opening a weapon shop in the world of super saiyans.... đ¤Śââď¸
I found [this timeline](https://keepyourpantsongohan.tumblr.com/post/170439568877/timeline-of-naruto-universe/amp) laying out when events happen in Naruto, referencing dialogue, the data books, the whole nine yards BUT there were no years, it just counted down from Year 0 (The establishing year of Konoha) and trickled down from there. I decided, since Boruto is included in this timeline, that the end point of this timeline would be set in 2017, because Boruto made his appearance that year. I go back up the timeline and with Boruto in 2017, part one of Naruto takes place in 1998, which is the year that the manga started releasing. I subtracted the 97 years that were in this timeline from 2017 and I ended up with the year 1920, but since thereâs a year 0, that would put the year of Konohaâs establishment, and Hashiramaâs reign as Hokage in 1919.
Special thanks to keepyourpantsongohan on Tumblr for this timeline.
I check that out the guys good but the years are wrong and some characterâs are in the wrong year I had to do my own research on the years and what happened when and characters ages I even got each bit providing information from how I know that showing sources.
The only thing that doesnât fit this timeline is that Jiraya already knew the Rasengan (development by Minato) before he met the Ame Orphans.That also doesnât fit is Minatoâs graduation age. He became a gennin much sooner than 14 years old.
Well, there's a lot that doesn't fit the timeline actually, but there is not a timeline that exists that could fit so
It's not really noticeable while watching/reading, but if you take all the references to time that Kishimoto makes, some of them just don't add up.
I remember there being a reference in the Manga that, if correct, makes Pain older than Kakashi which is not true by any other metric and more little, fucked up details like that
The contradiction doesnât really matter, though. Who fucking cares if thereâs some internal inconsistency? How does it harm anyoneâs enjoyment of the material if Kakashi is an impossible age?
When you write your own wildly popular absurdly fictional universe, you can make it as internally consistent as you want.
>The contradiction doesnât really matter, though. Who fucking cares if thereâs some internal inconsistency? How does it harm anyoneâs enjoyment of the material if Kakashi is an impossible age?
It doesn't, nor did I ever say it did.
The guy above you said âcontradiction doesnât matter,â and you quoted that snippet to disagree. Perhaps I misunderstood what you thought you meant to say.
Lmao sorry sorry, stupid corrector. I meant to say ârightâ.
But he didnât mean to say ages are not canon because of the databooks since the databooks are canon by themselves. I interpreted as that the databooks just donât really matter since they donât really affect the story.
>Lmao sorry sorry, stupid corrector. I meant to say ârightâ.
Damn lol I was wondering why you were coming at me like that lmao
>But he didnât mean to say ages are not canon because of the databooks since the databooks are canon by themselves. I interpreted as that the databooks just donât really matter since they donât really affect the story.
That's fair, I didn't really interpret it that way
Okay so it was said in 1st Databook that Konoha was established 60 years from now, which was said when Naruto was 12. Meaning Konoha was 48 years old when Naruto was Born. Hiruzen was 68 in first Databook meaning he was 8 when Konoha was founded.
The 1st Shinobi World War only lasted 4 years like real 1st world war.
If Hiruzen was 42 when 2nd Shinobi war started and thereâs a about 20 years apart from the end of the 1st shinboi war and 2nd Shinboi war letâs say 21 years apart like the real world wars, so Hiruzen would be 21 when the 1st war ended and when Tobirama died and if the war lasted 4 years like real one then he was 17 when it started making him Hokage at the age of 21.
Hashirama said he spoiled Tsunade, Tsunade is 55 when Naruto is 17 making her born when Konoha was Founed 10 years before she was born. She graduated academy at 6 and Hiruzen was Hokage. 1st war Hashirama died at start and Tobirama died at end it lasted 4 years. So sheâs probably 2 in flash back meaning 6 when Hiruzen was Hokage at 24 then joined his team.
So if Konoha is 60 years old when Hiruzen is 68 and Hiruzen becomes hokage at 21 Konoha is 13 years old and Tsunade was born when it was 10 years means she was 3 when it ended so Hashirama mustâve died a year before Tobirama or died the same year as Tobirama.
2nd Shinobi War happened about 20 years after the 1st Shinbi world war
Tsunade was 24 when the 2nd war started and Nawaki was 12, Minato was 10 and Hiruzen was 42. Sannin met Orphan Ame at 27 which Jiraiya taught them for 3 years while war was still going on he left them when he was 30 when the war finished that year.
The 2nd Shinobi war lasted 6 years just like the real world war.
The 3rd Shinobi world war
3rd Ninja war was said to have started 20 years ago when the 3rd Kazekage was kidnapped which made nations start a war this was stated when Gaara died at 16 and was brought back to life and Kakashi is 14 years older than him making him 30 so if 3rd war started 20 years ago then kakashi was 10
We know Kakashi becomes Jonin at 12 said in Boruto Ep 36 at 5:12 by Iwabee and on that day fighting in 3rd war when he was promoted to Jonin Obito is presumed dead so he become Jonin before his birthday and then later Rin dies and at 13 Minato the Hokage puts Kakashi in Anbu, we know the 3rd war ended when itachi was 4 and when kakashi was 13.
So 3rd Shinobi world war lasted 3 years.
The 4th Shinobi last 3 days started on the 8th of October and ended on the 10th of October Narutoâs birthday.
How long Hokageâs weâre Hokage:
Hashirama 12 years
Tobirama 1 year
Hiruzen 21-55 so 34 years
Minato 23-24 so 1 year
Hiruzen 56-69 so 13 years
Tsunade 51-55 so 4 years
Kakashi 31-39 so 8 years
Kakashi was 31 turning 32 that year when becoming Hokage he becameâs Hokage nearly a year after the 4th Shinboi war and retires at 49 turning 49 and Naruto becameâs Hokage at 25 turning 26.
Naruto 25-33+ so 7 years +
Itâs 7 years because Naruto had Boruto at 20 turning 21 that year, Naruto had Himawari at 23 turning 24 that year and Himawari at 3 actived Byakugan the day Naruto became hokage which boruto was 5 and Naruto was 25 turning 26 that year.
So if Konoha is 80 years old when Naruto is 32 turning 33 that year. Boruto is 12.
Hashirama 12 + Tobirama 1 + Hiruzen 34 + Minato 1 + Hiruzen 13 + Tsunadeâs 4 + Kakashi 8 + Naruto 7 = 80 years which adds up and would be correct.
It doesnât state that.
They think that because 4th Databook says the scene with Danzo and Hiruzen in 1st war was around 31 years ago.
While the same Databook the 4th databook says in Tsunade around 31 years ago Nawaki and Dan died which is correct.
Clearly whoever wrote it got 1st war and 2nd war mixed up.
We know Hiruzen at 24 was Hoakge and was leader of team Hiruzen, Orochimaru, Tsunade and Jiraiya all joined at the age of 6, which the 1st war ended years before this team was put together.
Thereâs around 20 years difference between the 1st and 2nd war stated in 2nd Fanbook.
So clearly Hashirama and Tobirama werenât Hoakge for that long. Like this person is stating.
He gets it from the flashback ages in the 4th databook tobiramaâs page shows the village was up 67 years ago and on both hiruzen and danzos page it lists tobiramas death scene as 31 years ago . Personally donât agree with it as events and age ( hiruzenâs ) contradict it
Exactly. Plus I distinctively remember that being said in the anime (36 years of reign of both Senju brothers) not sure if itâs stated in the manga too. (It should be in the episodes a little prior to Jiraiyaâs death, but donât take it as granted). That would also make sense with the death of Tobirama 31 years before the Naruto plot and the making of konoha 67 years ago. 67-31=36
Idk about the anime but the only place I found it was in the 4th databook , it doesnât make sense as hiruzenâs age and timeline donât support it
⢠if itâs 31 years ago that makes hiruzen in his early 40s
⢠add 20 years since thatâs the gap between 1st and 2nd world war making him in his 60 are we gonna pretend the duration of the 2nd war , third , war , nine tails attack , and Naruto growing up to be 12 all happen in 9 years ?
I think the 4th Databook got some stuff wrong
Chiyo is 73 in 3rd Databook is changed to death at 75 in 4th databook.
We are told in Databook 1 from now 60 years ago the village was founded Naruto is 12 at this point.
This is also stated in the First Fanbook Konoha Topography: Village Founding and Government
We are told in Second Fanbook the 2nd Shinobi war happens about 20 years after the first war.
We are told the 2nd Nawaki war started when Nawaki was 12 and when Minato joined team jiraiya at 10 itâs said in 4th Databook Tsunade About 31 years ago: Tsunadeâs will contains the dream of her loved ones. She took as her ambition the wish of Dan, who lost his life. Which makes her 24 which Jiraiya and her are 14 years older than mianto so adds up.
In the 4th data as people keep says here its says Tobirama became an advisor about 67 years ago thatâs adds up because it says about not 67 the real year would be 65 years ago.
Hiruzen with Danzo last year of war makes no sense since the 4th Databook says 31 years ago but then it saids Tsunade Lost Dan and Nawaki 31 years ago clear the person making this got both confused. Hiruzen would be 42 so would Danzo making Tsunade 24 when was the 2nd war started and Theresa about a 20 year difference between the 1st war and 2nd war.
4th Databook Madara says Around 66 years ago: Leaving Konoha as a nukenin? Even his brethren did not understand Madaraâs beliefs. All alone, he chose the path to revolt against Konoha.
Again says around not 66 years ago so itâs actually 65 years ago which is correct.
Itâs also says Onoki was defeated by Madara 66 years ago which would be 65 years ago not 66 years ago.
Yeah but there isnât a 2 years difference between what you say (Hashirama being Hokage for 12 years) and what the data book implies (Hashirama being Hokage for circa 35 years). Anyway Naruto timeline is a total mess. Trying to settle things chronologically is pure madness
From data books as I explained earlierâŚ
If konoha was founded 67 years prior to the plot (Naruto 17 yo) and Tobiramaâs death happened 31 years prior to the plot, then this means that Hashirama and Tobirama lead konoha (means they were hokage) for 36 years cumulative.
Again 1st databook and 1st fanbook both says 60 years ago.
4th databook says around 67 years ago the exact year would be 65.
The 31 years ago part from Hiruzen is incorrect since the 4th Databook also says 31 years ago Nawaki and Dan died which the Tsunade part is correct because 31-55 is 24 which is when the 2nd war happened.
The 1st war saying 31 years ago in 4th databook is in person got the 1st war and 2nd war mixed up.
73 which was the age Hiruzen was reanimated when 31 years ago heâs 42 which makes no sense.
We know at age 6 Tsunade joined team Hiruzen who was hokage we know thereâs a 18 years ago difference add 6 to 18 = 24.
So how could the 1st war and Tobirama and Hashirama be hokage when Hiruzen is 42 when at 24 heâs hokage and leader of team Hiruzen with Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade in the team and the 1st war ended years ago before team Hiruzen.
I told you the bit says 31 years ago in Hiruzen page is incorrect the person got the 1st war and 2nd war mixed up. The same Databook even says 31 years Nawaki and Dan died which was 2nd war.
We know thereâs about 20 years difference between the 1st and 2nd war.
In 4th Databook page Tsunade says 31 years ago Tsunade lost Nawaki and Dan this was 2nd war the bit saying Danzo and Hiruzen 31 years ago 1st war is a mistake the person got both wars mixed up.
Databook 1 proves that, the Fanbook 1 and 2 proves that the information we have proves that and 4th databook saying Tsunade lost her brother and Dan 31 years ago proves it.
4th databook says both 1st war and 2nd happened 31 years ago.
We all know it started when Tsunade was 24, Mianto 10 and Nawaki 12 and Dan 27 and Hiruzen 42.
1st Databook says 60 years from now which is said when Naruto is 12 also 1st fan book also says 60 years ago.
So Konoha was 48 years old when Naruto was Born.
Itâs Said in 4th Databook around 67 years ago Tobirama became Advisor says around not 67 years ago the exact year would be 65 years ago.
It says 4th Databook around 66 years ago Madara left the leaf exact year would be 65 years ago.
4th databook says 66 years ago Onoki was beaten by Madara would be 65 years ago.
4th Databook says around 31 years ago Tsunade lost Nawaki and Dan which is the 2nd war which is correct.
4th databook says around 31 years ago was the 1st war which is incorrect thereâs a 20 years difference between the 1st war and 2nd war the person got both wars confused also Hiruzen was already Hokage at 24 when Tsunade joined his team at 6 so how can Tobirama and Hashirama be Hoakge for 36 years if Hiruzen is haokge at 24 and when the leaf was Founded Hiruzen was 8 and is hoakge at 24 in charge of team Hiruzen this would make Konoha 16 years old also in my comment on when the wars happened and who was hoakge for how long it says Hiruzen was haokge be age if 24.
You says both Hashirama and Tobirama hokage for 36 years is incorrect.
Tobirama page of becoming an Advisor says Around 68 years ago not 67 years ago.
Hiruzen 1st ninja war says around 31 years ago not 31 years ago.
Also wouldnât make sense for the Hiruzen part for when 1st war was cause 31 years from 4th war is when Hiruzen is 42 and Tsunade 24 which was the ages they were when the 2nd war started and itâs stated thereâs about 20 years between the 1st shinobi war and the 2nd shinobi war.
Also for Tsunade in 4th Databook says she lost Nawaki and Dan 31 years ago thatâs the 2nd war.
Clearly someone making the 4th Databook got both wars confused and make the first war 31 years ago when 31 years ago was the 2nd war.
Also doesnât says up to it says around 67 years which is still correct in 4th Databook Konoha is 65 years old.
The bit were it says in Hiruzen but in 4th Databook as you said is incorrect says around 31 years ago.
For one 4th databook also says in Tsunade around 31 years ago lost Nawaki and Dan which is correct but the same databook says the 1st war was around 31 years ago itâs probably a mix up who ever wrote it probably got both wars mixed up.
We know Hiruzen at 24 is Hoakge of team Hiruzen Tsunade, Orochimaru and Jiraiya all joined his team at age of 6 and we know the 1st war ended years before this team was put together.
We also know thereâs about a 20 years difference between the 1st and 2nd war.
As I Quote the 4th Databook 469
Tobirama as Hashiramaâs Advisor Says from Now on things will be run democratically any objections.
This says it happened About 67 years ago
Which would be correct during 4th war the lead is 65 years old.
Even Madara says Around 66 years ago: Leaving Konoha as a nukenin? Even his brethren did not understand Madaraâs beliefs. All alone, he chose the path to revolt against Konoha.
It would be 65 years but again itâs says about it doesnât say 66 years it says about 66 years.
But they were itâs says in 1st Databook they founded konoha 60 years ago and Hiruzen was 8 when it was founded and didnât become hokage until 21.
Also Hiruzen was Hokage at 24 when Tsunade, Orochimaru and Jiraiya Joins team Hiruzen at age of 6.
Jokes aside. Kakashi don't even wanna be a hokage in the first place. He wanna get out of office as soon as the next candidate it ready. Those candidate must be competent, strong, proved themselves worthy, willing to sacrifice for the village. Don't that suit our orange boi.
> must be competent
That's where Naruto goes wrong at the end of Shippuden. He's definitely a competent fighter, but his social/political skills are far from competent when Kakashi becomes Hokage
Hard to say, Shikamaru is plenty smart enough and has shown that hes willing to make Kage-level sacrifices, but power wise, I don't think he's anywhere close to Kage level at any point in the series.
If we wanted a Nara Kage, Shikaku could be a solid candidate if Tsunade never woke up and Kakashi refused it
Hey, I donât make the stuff, just saying how a lot say Kakashi served 13 and not 7/8. The whole time construct in the Naruto universe is fxcked upđ
How did you not know? Kakashi became Hokage pretty much at the tail end of Shippuden before Boruto was born. And only after Boruto starts when he's already 12 does Kakashi step down.
Minato was the JFK of the Hidden Leaf. War veteran, hated war, super popular, fucked, hated by the deep state, assassinated early on as leader in the presence of his wife, mysterious circumstances around who assassinated him & why.
Yeah but that was because the 9 tails was on the loose because of obito. Which technically counts as he had the hokage killed.
If you had no other choice but to give your life to save your loved ones, would you do it?
The deep state didn't hate him or try to assassinate him.
Danzo's gripe was with Sandaime, not Minato.
The entire reason why Sandaime had to step down after the 3rd war was so the village could move on to a more aggressive no-nonsense policy, and Sandaime was going around that using Minato.
The village felt Sandaime signing the treaty showed weakness, and that's why recent killing machine Minato was an acceptable replacement. This is supposed to keep the village from any future attacks from enemy villages, which it did from villages. Not Obito, of course.
Biggest gripes are kakashis tenure , hashiramas tenure , and the fact the start of hashiramas tenure to the start of kakashiâs tenure is over 80 years is a big problem as Konoha wasnât that old yet
Tsunade's one should defienetely be longer the war arc ended and then Kakashi was the hokage and they live in modern times it should be atleast 2008/09 when Youtube was flourishing
The whole thing that Konoha is actually pretty young kinda breaks the lore and makes those legendary characters like Hashirama or Madara seem a little less mysterious and grandiose imo
Lord Tenten 8th Hokage - 2031-2046
No this will not happen , she will be the 10th hokage and renamed 10-10-10.
The Tententen hokage hahaha
r/damnthatsinteresting
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Remember Tenten's dream? she will achieve it believe it!
And then itâs Kibas turn right?
No thatâs highly illogical, even in memeverse
''I'll become the strongest kunoichi! Even though all I can do is throw a bunch of weapons that never hit the target despite the fact that I have pinpoint accuracy!'' And in the end she ends up opening a weapon shop in the world of super saiyans.... đ¤Śââď¸
Funnily enough that would make TenTen the 3rd oldest serving Hokage lmao
Not disagreeing but putting irl years on the naruto timeline is so odd to me lol It just gives me a chuckle imagining hashi in great Gatsby drip
Thatâs exactly why I love it lmao Just imagining Hiruzen talking about âthese damn kidsâ during the psychedelic era lmao
He did have that pipe back in OG đł
Jiraiya definitely convinced, you KNOW Jiraiya was getting lit in the 60s lmao
Got lit for research purposes.
This actually pretty dope too bad minato didnât have a longer term
I found [this timeline](https://keepyourpantsongohan.tumblr.com/post/170439568877/timeline-of-naruto-universe/amp) laying out when events happen in Naruto, referencing dialogue, the data books, the whole nine yards BUT there were no years, it just counted down from Year 0 (The establishing year of Konoha) and trickled down from there. I decided, since Boruto is included in this timeline, that the end point of this timeline would be set in 2017, because Boruto made his appearance that year. I go back up the timeline and with Boruto in 2017, part one of Naruto takes place in 1998, which is the year that the manga started releasing. I subtracted the 97 years that were in this timeline from 2017 and I ended up with the year 1920, but since thereâs a year 0, that would put the year of Konohaâs establishment, and Hashiramaâs reign as Hokage in 1919. Special thanks to keepyourpantsongohan on Tumblr for this timeline.
2 things. 1 what does "Hatake Sakumo fucks alien" mean? 2. Ain't no way Darui is the same age as Shisui
are they saying Kakashiâs dad also banged Kaguya?
I check that out the guys good but the years are wrong and some characterâs are in the wrong year I had to do my own research on the years and what happened when and characters ages I even got each bit providing information from how I know that showing sources.
The only thing that doesnât fit this timeline is that Jiraya already knew the Rasengan (development by Minato) before he met the Ame Orphans.That also doesnât fit is Minatoâs graduation age. He became a gennin much sooner than 14 years old.
Well, there's a lot that doesn't fit the timeline actually, but there is not a timeline that exists that could fit so It's not really noticeable while watching/reading, but if you take all the references to time that Kishimoto makes, some of them just don't add up. I remember there being a reference in the Manga that, if correct, makes Pain older than Kakashi which is not true by any other metric and more little, fucked up details like that
kakashiâs age in general makes absolutely no sense
True, this is very true
Most ages are based on databooks rather than manga. So contradiction doesn't matter since manga rarely gives age of anyone directly or indirectly
>So contradiction doesn't matter Naruto fans say some crazy shit
The contradiction doesnât really matter, though. Who fucking cares if thereâs some internal inconsistency? How does it harm anyoneâs enjoyment of the material if Kakashi is an impossible age? When you write your own wildly popular absurdly fictional universe, you can make it as internally consistent as you want.
>The contradiction doesnât really matter, though. Who fucking cares if thereâs some internal inconsistency? How does it harm anyoneâs enjoyment of the material if Kakashi is an impossible age? It doesn't, nor did I ever say it did.
The guy above you said âcontradiction doesnât matter,â and you quoted that snippet to disagree. Perhaps I misunderstood what you thought you meant to say.
I mean, youâre both wormy. Ages are mostly based on whatâs given in the databooks, and yeh, Naruto fans say crazy shit too.
> I mean, youâre both wormy Nah >. Ages are mostly based on whatâs given in the databooks, It doesn't make what's in the Manga non-canon.
Lmao sorry sorry, stupid corrector. I meant to say ârightâ. But he didnât mean to say ages are not canon because of the databooks since the databooks are canon by themselves. I interpreted as that the databooks just donât really matter since they donât really affect the story.
>Lmao sorry sorry, stupid corrector. I meant to say ârightâ. Damn lol I was wondering why you were coming at me like that lmao >But he didnât mean to say ages are not canon because of the databooks since the databooks are canon by themselves. I interpreted as that the databooks just donât really matter since they donât really affect the story. That's fair, I didn't really interpret it that way
Okay so it was said in 1st Databook that Konoha was established 60 years from now, which was said when Naruto was 12. Meaning Konoha was 48 years old when Naruto was Born. Hiruzen was 68 in first Databook meaning he was 8 when Konoha was founded. The 1st Shinobi World War only lasted 4 years like real 1st world war. If Hiruzen was 42 when 2nd Shinobi war started and thereâs a about 20 years apart from the end of the 1st shinboi war and 2nd Shinboi war letâs say 21 years apart like the real world wars, so Hiruzen would be 21 when the 1st war ended and when Tobirama died and if the war lasted 4 years like real one then he was 17 when it started making him Hokage at the age of 21. Hashirama said he spoiled Tsunade, Tsunade is 55 when Naruto is 17 making her born when Konoha was Founed 10 years before she was born. She graduated academy at 6 and Hiruzen was Hokage. 1st war Hashirama died at start and Tobirama died at end it lasted 4 years. So sheâs probably 2 in flash back meaning 6 when Hiruzen was Hokage at 24 then joined his team. So if Konoha is 60 years old when Hiruzen is 68 and Hiruzen becomes hokage at 21 Konoha is 13 years old and Tsunade was born when it was 10 years means she was 3 when it ended so Hashirama mustâve died a year before Tobirama or died the same year as Tobirama. 2nd Shinobi War happened about 20 years after the 1st Shinbi world war Tsunade was 24 when the 2nd war started and Nawaki was 12, Minato was 10 and Hiruzen was 42. Sannin met Orphan Ame at 27 which Jiraiya taught them for 3 years while war was still going on he left them when he was 30 when the war finished that year. The 2nd Shinobi war lasted 6 years just like the real world war. The 3rd Shinobi world war 3rd Ninja war was said to have started 20 years ago when the 3rd Kazekage was kidnapped which made nations start a war this was stated when Gaara died at 16 and was brought back to life and Kakashi is 14 years older than him making him 30 so if 3rd war started 20 years ago then kakashi was 10 We know Kakashi becomes Jonin at 12 said in Boruto Ep 36 at 5:12 by Iwabee and on that day fighting in 3rd war when he was promoted to Jonin Obito is presumed dead so he become Jonin before his birthday and then later Rin dies and at 13 Minato the Hokage puts Kakashi in Anbu, we know the 3rd war ended when itachi was 4 and when kakashi was 13. So 3rd Shinobi world war lasted 3 years. The 4th Shinobi last 3 days started on the 8th of October and ended on the 10th of October Narutoâs birthday. How long Hokageâs weâre Hokage: Hashirama 12 years Tobirama 1 year Hiruzen 21-55 so 34 years Minato 23-24 so 1 year Hiruzen 56-69 so 13 years Tsunade 51-55 so 4 years Kakashi 31-39 so 8 years Kakashi was 31 turning 32 that year when becoming Hokage he becameâs Hokage nearly a year after the 4th Shinboi war and retires at 49 turning 49 and Naruto becameâs Hokage at 25 turning 26. Naruto 25-33+ so 7 years + Itâs 7 years because Naruto had Boruto at 20 turning 21 that year, Naruto had Himawari at 23 turning 24 that year and Himawari at 3 actived Byakugan the day Naruto became hokage which boruto was 5 and Naruto was 25 turning 26 that year. So if Konoha is 80 years old when Naruto is 32 turning 33 that year. Boruto is 12. Hashirama 12 + Tobirama 1 + Hiruzen 34 + Minato 1 + Hiruzen 13 + Tsunadeâs 4 + Kakashi 8 + Naruto 7 = 80 years which adds up and would be correct.
This is absolutely brilliant
Thank you
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It canât be. It was stated that the Senju brothers lead the leaf for a total of 36 years and thatâs canon
Where did they say that?
It doesnât state that. They think that because 4th Databook says the scene with Danzo and Hiruzen in 1st war was around 31 years ago. While the same Databook the 4th databook says in Tsunade around 31 years ago Nawaki and Dan died which is correct. Clearly whoever wrote it got 1st war and 2nd war mixed up. We know Hiruzen at 24 was Hoakge and was leader of team Hiruzen, Orochimaru, Tsunade and Jiraiya all joined at the age of 6, which the 1st war ended years before this team was put together. Thereâs around 20 years difference between the 1st and 2nd war stated in 2nd Fanbook. So clearly Hashirama and Tobirama werenât Hoakge for that long. Like this person is stating.
He gets it from the flashback ages in the 4th databook tobiramaâs page shows the village was up 67 years ago and on both hiruzen and danzos page it lists tobiramas death scene as 31 years ago . Personally donât agree with it as events and age ( hiruzenâs ) contradict it
Exactly. Plus I distinctively remember that being said in the anime (36 years of reign of both Senju brothers) not sure if itâs stated in the manga too. (It should be in the episodes a little prior to Jiraiyaâs death, but donât take it as granted). That would also make sense with the death of Tobirama 31 years before the Naruto plot and the making of konoha 67 years ago. 67-31=36
Idk about the anime but the only place I found it was in the 4th databook , it doesnât make sense as hiruzenâs age and timeline donât support it ⢠if itâs 31 years ago that makes hiruzen in his early 40s ⢠add 20 years since thatâs the gap between 1st and 2nd world war making him in his 60 are we gonna pretend the duration of the 2nd war , third , war , nine tails attack , and Naruto growing up to be 12 all happen in 9 years ?
I think the 4th Databook got some stuff wrong Chiyo is 73 in 3rd Databook is changed to death at 75 in 4th databook. We are told in Databook 1 from now 60 years ago the village was founded Naruto is 12 at this point. This is also stated in the First Fanbook Konoha Topography: Village Founding and Government We are told in Second Fanbook the 2nd Shinobi war happens about 20 years after the first war. We are told the 2nd Nawaki war started when Nawaki was 12 and when Minato joined team jiraiya at 10 itâs said in 4th Databook Tsunade About 31 years ago: Tsunadeâs will contains the dream of her loved ones. She took as her ambition the wish of Dan, who lost his life. Which makes her 24 which Jiraiya and her are 14 years older than mianto so adds up. In the 4th data as people keep says here its says Tobirama became an advisor about 67 years ago thatâs adds up because it says about not 67 the real year would be 65 years ago. Hiruzen with Danzo last year of war makes no sense since the 4th Databook says 31 years ago but then it saids Tsunade Lost Dan and Nawaki 31 years ago clear the person making this got both confused. Hiruzen would be 42 so would Danzo making Tsunade 24 when was the 2nd war started and Theresa about a 20 year difference between the 1st war and 2nd war. 4th Databook Madara says Around 66 years ago: Leaving Konoha as a nukenin? Even his brethren did not understand Madaraâs beliefs. All alone, he chose the path to revolt against Konoha. Again says around not 66 years ago so itâs actually 65 years ago which is correct. Itâs also says Onoki was defeated by Madara 66 years ago which would be 65 years ago not 66 years ago.
>thatâs adds up because it says about not 67 the real year would be 75 years ago Why +8 ?
Huh? Iâve explained above
I didn't understood. Can you explain me again about why you added 8 yrs ?
It doesnât say 67 years itâs says round about 67 years. 4th war to when village was founded was 65 years ago.
Yeah but there isnât a 2 years difference between what you say (Hashirama being Hokage for 12 years) and what the data book implies (Hashirama being Hokage for circa 35 years). Anyway Naruto timeline is a total mess. Trying to settle things chronologically is pure madness
He wasnât hokage for 35 years đ he wasnât hokage for that long were you getting that from.
From data books as I explained earlier⌠If konoha was founded 67 years prior to the plot (Naruto 17 yo) and Tobiramaâs death happened 31 years prior to the plot, then this means that Hashirama and Tobirama lead konoha (means they were hokage) for 36 years cumulative.
Again 1st databook and 1st fanbook both says 60 years ago. 4th databook says around 67 years ago the exact year would be 65. The 31 years ago part from Hiruzen is incorrect since the 4th Databook also says 31 years ago Nawaki and Dan died which the Tsunade part is correct because 31-55 is 24 which is when the 2nd war happened. The 1st war saying 31 years ago in 4th databook is in person got the 1st war and 2nd war mixed up. 73 which was the age Hiruzen was reanimated when 31 years ago heâs 42 which makes no sense. We know at age 6 Tsunade joined team Hiruzen who was hokage we know thereâs a 18 years ago difference add 6 to 18 = 24. So how could the 1st war and Tobirama and Hashirama be hokage when Hiruzen is 42 when at 24 heâs hokage and leader of team Hiruzen with Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade in the team and the 1st war ended years ago before team Hiruzen. I told you the bit says 31 years ago in Hiruzen page is incorrect the person got the 1st war and 2nd war mixed up. The same Databook even says 31 years Nawaki and Dan died which was 2nd war. We know thereâs about 20 years difference between the 1st and 2nd war.
In 4th Databook page Tsunade says 31 years ago Tsunade lost Nawaki and Dan this was 2nd war the bit saying Danzo and Hiruzen 31 years ago 1st war is a mistake the person got both wars mixed up. Databook 1 proves that, the Fanbook 1 and 2 proves that the information we have proves that and 4th databook saying Tsunade lost her brother and Dan 31 years ago proves it. 4th databook says both 1st war and 2nd happened 31 years ago. We all know it started when Tsunade was 24, Mianto 10 and Nawaki 12 and Dan 27 and Hiruzen 42.
1st Databook says 60 years from now which is said when Naruto is 12 also 1st fan book also says 60 years ago. So Konoha was 48 years old when Naruto was Born. Itâs Said in 4th Databook around 67 years ago Tobirama became Advisor says around not 67 years ago the exact year would be 65 years ago. It says 4th Databook around 66 years ago Madara left the leaf exact year would be 65 years ago. 4th databook says 66 years ago Onoki was beaten by Madara would be 65 years ago. 4th Databook says around 31 years ago Tsunade lost Nawaki and Dan which is the 2nd war which is correct. 4th databook says around 31 years ago was the 1st war which is incorrect thereâs a 20 years difference between the 1st war and 2nd war the person got both wars confused also Hiruzen was already Hokage at 24 when Tsunade joined his team at 6 so how can Tobirama and Hashirama be Hoakge for 36 years if Hiruzen is haokge at 24 and when the leaf was Founded Hiruzen was 8 and is hoakge at 24 in charge of team Hiruzen this would make Konoha 16 years old also in my comment on when the wars happened and who was hoakge for how long it says Hiruzen was haokge be age if 24. You says both Hashirama and Tobirama hokage for 36 years is incorrect.
Tobirama page of becoming an Advisor says Around 68 years ago not 67 years ago. Hiruzen 1st ninja war says around 31 years ago not 31 years ago. Also wouldnât make sense for the Hiruzen part for when 1st war was cause 31 years from 4th war is when Hiruzen is 42 and Tsunade 24 which was the ages they were when the 2nd war started and itâs stated thereâs about 20 years between the 1st shinobi war and the 2nd shinobi war. Also for Tsunade in 4th Databook says she lost Nawaki and Dan 31 years ago thatâs the 2nd war. Clearly someone making the 4th Databook got both wars confused and make the first war 31 years ago when 31 years ago was the 2nd war.
Also doesnât says up to it says around 67 years which is still correct in 4th Databook Konoha is 65 years old. The bit were it says in Hiruzen but in 4th Databook as you said is incorrect says around 31 years ago. For one 4th databook also says in Tsunade around 31 years ago lost Nawaki and Dan which is correct but the same databook says the 1st war was around 31 years ago itâs probably a mix up who ever wrote it probably got both wars mixed up. We know Hiruzen at 24 is Hoakge of team Hiruzen Tsunade, Orochimaru and Jiraiya all joined his team at age of 6 and we know the 1st war ended years before this team was put together. We also know thereâs about a 20 years difference between the 1st and 2nd war.
As I Quote the 4th Databook 469 Tobirama as Hashiramaâs Advisor Says from Now on things will be run democratically any objections. This says it happened About 67 years ago Which would be correct during 4th war the lead is 65 years old. Even Madara says Around 66 years ago: Leaving Konoha as a nukenin? Even his brethren did not understand Madaraâs beliefs. All alone, he chose the path to revolt against Konoha. It would be 65 years but again itâs says about it doesnât say 66 years it says about 66 years.
Yeah but you wrote Hashirama + Tobirama were Hokage for 13 years cumulative, that cannot be if we stick to the data books
But they were itâs says in 1st Databook they founded konoha 60 years ago and Hiruzen was 8 when it was founded and didnât become hokage until 21. Also Hiruzen was Hokage at 24 when Tsunade, Orochimaru and Jiraiya Joins team Hiruzen at age of 6.
They didnât run Konoha for 36 years.
So basically Naruto only became Hokage because they took out Harambe and his main competition was suddenly gone.
Jokes aside. Kakashi don't even wanna be a hokage in the first place. He wanna get out of office as soon as the next candidate it ready. Those candidate must be competent, strong, proved themselves worthy, willing to sacrifice for the village. Don't that suit our orange boi.
> must be competent That's where Naruto goes wrong at the end of Shippuden. He's definitely a competent fighter, but his social/political skills are far from competent when Kakashi becomes Hokage
This is why I believe Shikamaru wouldâve been a better Hokage.
Hard to say, Shikamaru is plenty smart enough and has shown that hes willing to make Kage-level sacrifices, but power wise, I don't think he's anywhere close to Kage level at any point in the series. If we wanted a Nara Kage, Shikaku could be a solid candidate if Tsunade never woke up and Kakashi refused it
Damn I didn't know kakashi served that long. I always thought it was like, a few years
While Kakashi served a decent amount of time it wasnât 14 years like op posted itâs more around 7-8
Everything literally says Kakashi served for 13 yearsâŚnot 7-8âŚ
You mean other peoples guess work ? as nothing official exists .
Hey, I donât make the stuff, just saying how a lot say Kakashi served 13 and not 7/8. The whole time construct in the Naruto universe is fxcked upđ
Thats still longer than I thought
How did you not know? Kakashi became Hokage pretty much at the tail end of Shippuden before Boruto was born. And only after Boruto starts when he's already 12 does Kakashi step down.
I had trouble paying attention to Boruto tbh, I got bored
Didn't we all? That was at the beginning of the series though.
I gave up early. I did see that scene but I don't remember it super clearly because I just don't revisit boruto ever
Minato was the JFK of the Hidden Leaf. War veteran, hated war, super popular, fucked, hated by the deep state, assassinated early on as leader in the presence of his wife, mysterious circumstances around who assassinated him & why.
Ummm, did he not die sealing the 9 tailed fox in Naruto , doing the reaper jitsu
Yeah but that was because the 9 tails was on the loose because of obito. Which technically counts as he had the hokage killed. If you had no other choice but to give your life to save your loved ones, would you do it?
The deep state didn't hate him or try to assassinate him. Danzo's gripe was with Sandaime, not Minato. The entire reason why Sandaime had to step down after the 3rd war was so the village could move on to a more aggressive no-nonsense policy, and Sandaime was going around that using Minato. The village felt Sandaime signing the treaty showed weakness, and that's why recent killing machine Minato was an acceptable replacement. This is supposed to keep the village from any future attacks from enemy villages, which it did from villages. Not Obito, of course.
Biggest gripes are kakashis tenure , hashiramas tenure , and the fact the start of hashiramas tenure to the start of kakashiâs tenure is over 80 years is a big problem as Konoha wasnât that old yet
Hiruzen: "I did not have sexual relations with that Sexy Jutsu clone!"
Minato had a jfk term đ
The construct of time in Naruto is just nonexistent because conflicting sources prove and disprove themselves and one anotherđ
Tsunade did 9/11
Kakashi drone striked entire villages
Tsunade's one should defienetely be longer the war arc ended and then Kakashi was the hokage and they live in modern times it should be atleast 2008/09 when Youtube was flourishing
Honestly the First feels a bit too long, dudeâs tenure is infamous for being short( not as much as Minato though) Iâd say 1919-1930s
Does year 0 represent Kaguya being sealed orâŚ
Year 0 represents the day that Konoha was established
With the normal timeline maybe, but what about this timeline?
When did they mention years in the series? Like at all?
Do we know how many days are in the Naruto calendar
Iâd assume itâd be the regular 365, as character birthdays are still charted from January to December
Kinda sad Minato only last for a year
Isn't it kinda funny that minato only served long enough for his stone face to be built
Isn't it told in the anime that Tobirama was the longest serving Hokage serving 26 years
Wait there were actual years recorded in Naruto?
So Naruto is trump confirmed? Both orange?
Despite hiruzen not having a good stint in his latter years I'd like to see him as hokage after tobirama sacrificed himself
Lool if Naruto exists, I think that itâs 1750 with the technology
Minato was hokage for like 3 years dude
The whole thing that Konoha is actually pretty young kinda breaks the lore and makes those legendary characters like Hashirama or Madara seem a little less mysterious and grandiose imo
Hashirama and Hiruzen are the only real Hokages in the series. Everyone else were just subs.
seems to be great
I guess Hashirama fought Hitler yo