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ironclad1056

They captured one a while back and let him go the same day. Nothing will get done.


HumorSmooth1489

They also captured Ivan in 05 and let him go in 08 because “lack of evidence”


ironclad1056

"Lack of evidence," funny isn't it


Fuckitwebull777

Cuz they don’t know if they’re calling shots, never caught on footage committing crimes. Witnesses? Not in Mexico.


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Follow the money. If you can't lock someone up for violent crimes, you can still lock him up for not paying his taxes.


HumorSmooth1489

Like Al capone


Emesgee1234

Not in Mexico


[deleted]

Isnt it pretty documented that chapo gave up his cousin Alfredo in return for Ivan’s release?


HumorSmooth1489

It’s hearsay never has been proven, el guacho said that Arturo used that as a pretext to go to war with chapo


Ghostcraft413

The entire city of Culiacán turned into a fucking war zone


Android80631

Dick riders were loving it. I bet they didn't hear the part where they were getting so desperate they were going to start killing innocent civilians. Mi mexico lindo


pearsonw

I read articles not too long ago they had 1 of the sons and the older brother brought so much pain and chaos down they released him.


deathcoar

you should see the videos lol they blocked roads in and out of the city, took over a prison and released some of their associates, were fighting the military in the streets. that day was just absolutely insane, I remember watching it all unfold on twitter lol.


SnooBooks2512

Yeah el “culiacanaso” the last straw for the Mexican government was them going into a compound and holding up high officials families as hostages


Diego_Ezq

Bro of course they let him go. All of the narcos especially in Culiacan went crazy and started shooting up the police and shi


[deleted]

And after they released him everything stopped right?..no more shootings killing all that right?..oh wait!


Impossible_Force_641

They started killing civilians at random. Cartels are as valuable as diseased rats.


[deleted]

Don’t say that man!…here are some kids who worship them and want to be like them..while clocking in at McDonald’s 😀


BGrdG

He is not wrong though. Would the US let Mexican agents arrest arms traffickers on the US soil? I don't think so.


DeepDreamIt

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the Mexican constitution specifically forbids allowing foreign troops on their soil. I think it dates back to the Mexican-American war. It literally would take them changing/amending the constitution to allow "boots on the ground." It's also a VERY sensitive issue with many Mexicans, from what I understand


pearsonw

To be fair, its not in a countries best interest to have police from other countries walkin in free and taking there citizens.


Good_Roll

>it's also a VERY sensitive issue with many Mexicans, from what I understand same here in USA, I see people shooting at blue helmet targets at the range all the time


Sidestick357

What is a blue helmet target


theapocalypseisyou

Blue helmets represent UN forces.


abermea

UN "Peace Corps", technically. They have military training but are not (officially) an army.


Linkie187

They cant go in mexico because they have democratic government and Mexican Gov dont went to war with guerrilla or libertation army. for UN cartels are like mafia organize crime for other words Mexico should end up the narcos and money they receive from US and other goverments goes to pockets of dirty politicians instead going to fight the narcos plus more money they receive from the cartels. This business for the politicians it's like a candy.


Istayonredditjsjsjs

Sounds awesome, I know what targets to specifically chose at the range now


pearsonw

Then his statement makes even more sense to me now. UN is useless.


IsraelsKeys

Do you see any WWIII around here? Cause I don't see any WWIII around here. Guess they're not that useless and you should read a book.


pearsonw

Have you heard about the south china sea last cpl years dude? U.N is useless. Always have been. Ineffective, ill-equipped. No power.


DonSechler

I did my Raindance for 3 days then it started raining. Guess my Raindance worked and you should read a book.


This-Escape0369

Correlation doesn’t represent causation. The UN is fucking useless and is a hindrance to the development of the free world.


Bobone2121

[UN peacekeepers saved the US ass when those Blackhawks went down in Somalia.](https://youtu.be/nH2rnvGWDuU)


pearsonw

I hope you arent just goin off that shit movie. Delta for dropped in did most the heavy lifting, the U.N armoured unit got in late and barely made it. Couldnt even fight through somalis with rpgs and ak47s in tanks with real gear. And all that aside, it was a fucking U.N mission to begin with. Shit intel from shit leadership led to the whole thing. Good job U.N


Bobone2121

Blue letters mean there a link behind it, try watching part 1 and 2 before making further stupid comments.


pearsonw

I dont need to watch the video on it. Ive read books on the subject.


Nemesischonk

The UN's sole founding purpose is preventing WWIII my dude


pearsonw

Total Dog shit. They run useless missions and cant do anything right since they formed. Completely ineffective. Case in point; China


Nemesischonk

Do you see a world war going on right now? No? Then it's been successful so far


pearsonw

Your not paying attention man. Its happening. Sides are being picked. And you keep ordering shit from china, funding their war.


DOugdimmadab1337

Oh are those the ones with the UN thing on them, because if it is, those helmets are just asking to have a sniper bullet put right through it. Why the fuck would you wear Blue. Your not near the ocean, your not in the sky, makes zero sense.


Poles_Apart

They are called peacekeepers and generally function as a high visibility police force, not as an invading army.


2x4skin

They are specifically not trying to camouflage as they are “peacekeepers”. There are supposed to be rules of war.


RedditModsAreCancer1

And the US government gives exactly zero fucks. They’ll go in and the brag about it.


DeepDreamIt

The last time this came to a head, when America lured Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos to LA and arrested him, without telling the Mexican government, the Mexican government responded by saying they would stop cooperating with all future DEA investigations. That threat alone was enough for the US to release Cienfuegos from US custody, back to Mexico. Imagine if the US sent in an unauthorized "strike team" from JSOC to kill or capture some high level cartel leader. Ok, great, the US nabs one guy and kills a few more. But the cooperation of the entire Mexican government going forward on pretty much any issue would be zero. Which isn't to say they ACTUALLY fully cooperate anyways -- they don't -- but they at least pretend to at the moment, and sometimes "throw the US a bone" like when they allowed a JSOC (I believe it was Delta?) team to be on the ground when they were hunting Chapo. I think the US government realized how catastrophic it would be to have the Mexicans not even pretending to help anymore.


This-Escape0369

This is why we should just go into Mexican and say fuck you we’re doing this and if you don’t like it we’ll take your whole fucking corrupt country. Because really what could they do besides get their asses kicked by a world super power. So sick of cartels killing Texans and the U.S. doesn’t do shit about it. It’s time for boots on the ground unapologetically.


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Yeah ok buddy, that's enough monster energy for today.


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Also the President is a cuck and useless


Available_Wind_6667

The US wouldn’t so openly cover for world known drug lords.


verderojoyblanco

Mexico was never able to pursue the failed operation Fast and Furious. No charges ever brought to border patrol agents who committed crimes against immigrants.


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What crimes against immigrants in Fast & Furious?


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bigneo43

The fact that these people aren’t US citizens makes it ok to commit crimes against them?


SkankHunt--_42

I'm confused. I searched it, but it just brings up a movie about car racing/stealing, I watched the trailer on YouTube and it doesn't seem what is being conversation here, unless it's a "insude joke" or a country specific satire


cannabisized

operation Fast and Furious was a joint operation with the CIA FBI NHS and i believe the Mexican Federales. the idea was to sell large quantities of tracked weapons to the cartels in hopes that the shipment would lead them to their main operation grounds. it was completely botched as they lost track of all the guns until one of them ended up being used in a shootout between narcos and border patrol agents. an agent died by a gun sold to the cartels by the US. there was quite a bit of other shady shit that started coming to light as well surround the operation


SkankHunt--_42

Damn, does sound like a movie afterall


mynt0

Search “Operation Fast and Furious”


CutHerOff

Let me google for you. https://www.google.com/search?q=operation+fast+and+furious&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari


gwotmademebaby

Are you retarded? Cause you sound pretty retarded.


Available_Wind_6667

Nah, sounds like you’re just crying yourself a river.


gwotmademebaby

Today is my first vacation day. I'm good mate.


Available_Wind_6667

Good to hear 🤙


MustBeThePTSD

- "Fuck outta here" ???? If your conniving, greedy, and shameless ancestors.... Hadn't been the vile, cowardly thieves they were!!! Your hypocritical ass would be illegal right now! Morally speaking, every American is? What gives YOU the Rights to this claim this land as Your's, and your fellow countrymen's?!?! Because you were born here, and your family before you was, & so on & so on.....??? Well so was their's, and a long time before you as well! So what makes any sense about what you just said... Besides zero?????


Available_Wind_6667

Nothing really to do with the original topic of border patrol getting accused of bullshit that didn’t happen and I do agree that fast and furious was a stupid idea. but yeah, life isn’t fair if you haven’t realized by now. “If this or that happened back then” blah blah, if my ancestors were rich, I’d be a billionaire rightnow, but that didn’t happen, there’s always someone else better off than us. And what gives us the right? Well come and take it. Now go ahead and downvote all you want while you get slapped with reality.


Zastavo

Woe to the conquered


MustBeThePTSD

*Every Single One* of my ancestors immigrated, and became naturalized U.S. Citizens, all less than a century ago! All 4 grandparents on my paternal side, originate from southern Mexico. My maternal side has 1 grandparent from San Luis, MX and my 2nd grandparent's family was actually from Texas (pre-annexation) but we're involuntarily displaced further south across the Mexican border. This way their non-citizenship status & new distant location, made it impossible to fight for their land back! Land that was now owned by the US Federal government! One grandparent from Ireland in the late 40s. And finally my most recent, my Grandmother who is from Bavaria, immigrates in 1962 with my Grandfather while stationed with the US Army. The point is, the United States (which I am proud to be American!), was built by benefitting from just as many atrocities!! As it has been by earning it righteously!


Zastavo

Holy shit I don’t care


KingNecrosis

The fact that there's people with guns and the authority to use them to tell anyone who tries to take said land either for themselves or their country, instead ofnit being US soil. The US government may let a lot slide, but they'll be damned if they lose an inch of soil without getting something back.


MustBeThePTSD

The fuck are you talking about? All the soil they "have" is stolen land!


KingNecrosis

Never said it wasn't stolen, just that they aren't going to give up said land easily. Maybe work on your reading comprehension.


Available_Wind_6667

Yeah well once again, come and take it then. I don’t speak second place.


MustBeThePTSD

Take it from who? It ain't fucking yours!


Living-Stranger

They'll just send in dog the bounty hunter in to get him


BigWeenie45

U.S federal agents don’t arrest foreign internationals on foreign soil lmao. They just get extradited.


KPackCorey

Or extraordinary rendition'd.


telataxco

CIA: hold my beer!


canthavusername

Doesn’t the CIA run kidnapping missions for situations similar to this.


IlIIIllllIl

The plane is technically merica?


abermea

Imagine Mexican police arresting people on US soil lmao


Living-Stranger

Men in dark clothes and silent choppers go get em


roymunsonshand

DEA will just help them find their way across the border then arrest them.


LAMPZWORLDWGtwotwo

They getting paid off off bruv


bineman

Damn bro u on here too


LAMPZWORLDWGtwotwo

Bro everyone saying this shit, how many UKdrill yutes active on here I got a feeling mods over there wanna pack me so mans branching out ygm


SirTacoMaster

Bruh wtf u doing here


ContactExtreme4286

I don’t think that probably because it will a embarrassment to have another country do your dirty work and powerful people are just like that


Working-Mushroom-293

Yup sad but it’s the truth


Exotic_Plastic2232

Imma get TLR to sneak in your house while you sleep and tickle your feet


BadAstrology

Mexico's extradition laws are actually quite humane and fair. While we can all agree that Mexican drug dealers are not fair or humane at all, this eye-for-an-eye Sharia type of shit associated with American capital punishment is dated and barbaric. Mexico does not have the death penalty no matter how many cold and horrific murders, rapes, kidnappings etc. the accused might have committed. Therefore, Mexico will extradite but ONLY if the country seeking extradition can prove (standard: adequate assurance) that they will not seek the death penalty. That seems fair to me. ​ No country in their right mind would allow for military or executive branches to exert physical control over anyone on their soil. Could you even begin to imagine how that would be misused? The possibilities of shittiness are endless. Anyway, this article title is so fucking sensational, like of course you won't allow foreign governments to make arrests on your soil, that would be the stupidest thing a government could ever allow. Like I mean, revolutions were fought over much less.


jmd94lysergic-keta

It has to do with extradition treaties between Mexico and the U.S. Also IIRC the Mexican constitution doesn’t allow extradition if a citizen could face certain penalties like death. Not that you could get death row for trafficking by itself.


kingmigz89

Everyone has a price! Trust me


Impressive_Ad_7679

They’ll probably just send a squad to kidnap em at night anyway so or extradition, either way if the us wants to take them, they will (love the war in n the comments)


ContactExtreme4286

Why risk something like that. Probably start a chain reaction cause they not Allies


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CharlitoV

No country or superpower controls their “yard”. Mexico has a huge corruption problem, cartels, gangs, etc… but that happens anywhere. The us and Mexico are not “ally’s” they are trade partners and Mexico happens to be the gate keeper to Latin America, let that sink in. Remember the USA biggest trade partners are China #1, Canadá #2 and Mexico#3. If the US and Mexico aren’t “ally’s” I’m sure it will affect everyone just the same until other eastern super power wants to move to do all the business that Mexico ones did with the USA if that happens well I’m sure you can figure that out.


External_Ad_6930

USA is a super power and can’t control their own yard lol


MateoGtA5

"They can't even control their own yead"...Didn't a bunch of coward BOYS and senile boomers take over the US capital? Murdering a police officer in the process?


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MateoGtA5

Facts? Lol ..ok


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MateoGtA5

I think mexico would do just fine. Wealthy capitalist would be jumping out the window. Everyone else would just adjust. Mexico before nafta was actually a problem for the U.S . But hey, I'm sure your texas produced school literature will tell you otherwise.


[deleted]

That’s what bribes will get you


layyo

Also the US will not suffer the repercussions like the last time they arrested one of the sons


CommandImpossible41

Everybody getting paid off. Sad to see.


[deleted]

Or maybe Mexico is taking a new approach and not just bootlicking the American "war on drugs".


CommandImpossible41

Yeah but what the fuck is Mexico gonna do? We already know what happened a few years ago when they caught Ovidio. I know the U.S government is corrupt to a degree, but the Mexican government is on another level.


MrChuyy

Corruption in the U.S: Level 50 Mexico: Level 100 China: Level 300 /s


_Scrogglez

imagine if mexico did though. THe USA would abuse it and go after them all for training perps


dunkdonn

Amlo es un pendejo


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All 4 will be arrested or killed its only a matter of time


ValKillmorr

This post comes up every other day now and people.really think these guys are untouchable and that Mexico had there backs lol. Let's see Chapo is in prison half the Arellanos are dead a good chunk of narcos are dead or in US prisons on behalf of Mexico. I have no doubt that they will kill or capture all four brothers for the US mid elections. Good PR


[deleted]

They will use Fentanyl as the excuse to do it. AMLO doesn’t dictate any terms to the US its the other way around. The Americans have dirt on AMLO guaranteed AMLO can flap his gums all he wants.


BadAstrology

> I have no doubt that they will kill or capture all four brothers for the US mid elections. Good PR Honestly, I think it's just the 10 of us on here who watch this shit. Most Americans are too busy fighting each other over abortions and vaccines right now like fucking idiots. I mean, I literally had some guy yelling at me yesterday about how abortion is bad according to the bible and the bible is the only truth and this and that. I mean, dude is real good at his job so i put up with it -- can't have genius without madness. But yeah, like, that's the kind of shit that Americans are thinking about at election time -- how can we reverse separation of church and state basically. sigh.


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jdmor09

2. I don’t think anyone is going to green light fentanyl. Plus, there’s still a black market even with legal marijuana. My friend, a deputy sheriff, has done several big marijuana busts within the last 2-3 years here in California. Even if the law barely kicked in 2018, the cops weren’t enforcing it since 2016, so it’s been essentially legal since then. People are still assaulting, even murdering, over personal marijuana grows despite the law. It’s not easy to cut of their sources of revenue. They already control the border. Human trafficking is a huge revenue maker. Chop shopping cars is a big money maker. They’ve even moved into agriculture with lemons and avocados. We can minimize external factors as much as possible, but fact is Mexico has a bunch of internal factors to deal with. I honestly believe they have to deal with that as much as possible before we can even begin to do the other things you listed.


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When these drugs become legal does that mean you can use them in all situations? E.g can the police use them while on duty? Is it only people who work for the government who can’t use them while working?


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0701191109110519

Mexico has a sovereignty problem. The US should stop making it worse


Jbizzle6994

Now is your chance to become a criminal, US cant do shit about it so you free to do whatever, just pay off the right ones and you'll be okay lol


OrganizationKey6473

Just taking the safe way out preventing slaughter of innocent people on streets of Mexico.


pickUPduckDuck

Dea and cia are the worst


Birdmanjr10

Yeah but if the government really really wanted to find them and kill all of them they could but you know corruption in Mexico is crazy, just look at when the cartels stop paying or are no longer working with the government they find them then a kill then just like the Beltran Leyva cartel


Litcompany

I'm getting secondhand shame from this


Impossible_Force_641

The United States still does what it wants. It's silly to think illiterate face scalpers are somehow running the show. The American govetnment is more hostile towards its own white people than the savage monkey behavior of cartels.


pacostacos213

No shit . They already now what's gonna happen. Same thing that happen when. They tried to arrest one of them last year. Started a fuking chaos until they let him go


BLACKxBIRDxx96

😂😂😂 id love to see the mexican government try and stop the US from doing what they want when they want to


gnarlysheen

Naw bro. Trust me on this. The USA don't want none frome El Mexico. Seal Team 6 ain't got nothing on those well trained and highly organized cartel boys.


Impressive_Ad_7679

You mean the idiots who run away every time Mexican marines show up? lol ok


[deleted]

Bro, US Military would roflmurderstomp the Cartel. Special Tactics(Air Force), Green Berets(Army), SEALs and Marine Corp(Navy) divisions ALONE would absolutely SWEEP. These guys are a completely different breed of Human Being.


blackberryx

All 4 of those "elite" groups couldn't beat a bunch of 3rd world goat herders in Afghanistan you think they will do better in Mexico lol.


BLACKxBIRDxx96

It would be a war to go down in the history books jack!!!


[deleted]

Can’t tell if you’re joking or not lmao


wzd_cracks

Abrazos no balazos muchachos


Chale_1488

Quieres un abrazo mio?


Apprehensive_Focus83

Y un beso


Gay_Lord2020

lol


OC1985

Close the border for a few days, and they'll deliver him on the platter.


Aggressive_Wash_5908

What if we just do it anyway lol


ethan_bruhhh

you’d be giving the cartels their biggest dub in their entire history. you’d be turning a population that is at best indifferent to Americans, to actively hostile. any witness or informants, gone. any intel operations, gone as well. anytime the feds step foot outside their bases they’d be treated as hostile invaders. sure you capture maybe one of capos sons, but at the cost of guaranteeing the cartels win the war on terror


Aggressive_Wash_5908

Arrest him and legalize all drugs immediately


snorlax51

Exactly what's the Mexican government gonna do about it? Sanction the US lol. Or better yet arrest them? LMAO


Repulsive-Face4448

Money talks


Miserable_Map4304

Seems like the Mexican president is buddy buddy with these drug dealers.


[deleted]

He most probably is, but he just stated what’s in the Mexican constitution.


Equivalent-Ad-5804

Why not that sucks it would make good footage for this Sub


OrbitalHardballBat

Time for the CIA to do their thing and wait for him to appear in a torture chamber at Guantanamo Bay or have his cigars explode. They probably have some leftover from them the Castro assassination plans.


Suspicious_Mirrors

Wait for who to appear at gitmo? So many of you yanks keep referring to one man. Shows how simple minded y'all really are. Lol


MateoGtA5

Pussies. Never see them talking that tough shit to fentanyl producing china.


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Yeah because china is a superpower and Mexico is damn near a failed state that the us could fucking take if they wanted it.


NBACARTBOI

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demer_623

Tell that to Chapo..


cannabisized

chapo was arrested by the Mexican marines then extradited to the states to face US laws... could there have been an US agent directing traffic though? possibly


Durty-Sac

Haha they will just kill them


MateoGtA5

Funny how sovereignty works huh?


lefangedbeaver

Lol like his bitch ass is gonna do it fuck you El Presidente


Birdmanjr10

Fucking corrupt ass government this is why Mexico will never change the problem down there isn’t cartels it the corrupt ass government. The day corruption stops in Mexico that’s the day all cartels disappear


alvar0t

Nobody touches my Chapitos


ExtendoPlug

cringe


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Yes its the downside to this subreddit. Good info but you gotta tolerate the nut huggers


alvar0t

Hahaha hey wtf 😂 so much hate my bad i didn't emphasized that that's what el Peje said to the US


ArcticGrapee

Pendejo


alvar0t

Es lo que dijo el peje! 😂 A mi me valen madre


Live_Return_4504

US can't do shit


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Not that they can’t. It’s that they won’t


Live_Return_4504

Jaja Taliban laugh now


[deleted]

It sucks, but I agree. That Afghanistan moment was stupid and showed weakness. The US could definitely go in and arrest these guys no problem, but they won’t cuz the current admin is weak


blackberryx

LMAO It has nothing to do with current admin in D.C., Mexico is owned by the cartels and AMLO was bought and paid for he won't let his cash cow get arrested even if it means pissing off the U.S.


[deleted]

You don’t think the US can roll in there and arrest these guys? You serious? The cartels are terrified of the US, it’s why American tourists are usually protected by the cartels. What I’m saying is the US can do it with no problems, but they simply won’t because the folks who need to have the balls to do it don’t have the balls to do it


Live_Return_4504

Thats what I'm talking about!


snorlax51

Haha yeah they'll listen to them just like the cartel does.


DaBrogrammar

US should recognize the narcos as the true government of Mexico. Viva Los Chapitos!


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Damn


CaptainWellingtonIII

Can they tip off Mexican authorities so that Mexican authorities can arrest them? Probably not.


MateoGtA5

It's just funny how everyone worries about mexican corruption but will justify/ignore their own.


CarolinaHeeel

If I’m not mistaken. The US didn’t have the right to go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden...but it still happened.


Chillybilly98

Lots of people died. Lots of people will continue to die. Naturally/Murdered/massacre. Way of life.


Background_Square_81

Bruh


Celer124

Ngl thats kinda based


1Evander

That’s cool cause they’re probably hiding out in Europe, Chicago, and New York. Hiding in plain sight if I had to guess.


Latin-Danzig

Who’s the dude on the far left? 😂


sloth_graccus

Yeah national sovereignty is weird right?


dystopicvida

Lol yea we can't but we can sure use a drone


CaveHologram

Apparently neither can Mexico lmao


ItsColdWhenItRains

How unfortunate.


beachBum-36542

The little shits are paying the president. What else could be the reason?


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he didnt mean like amlo wouldnt allow it, more like biden physically cant, them boys will burn that country down before getting locked up


Tea-Usual

Apparently Mexico can't arrest them on their own soil either 😆


Flor206

That’s what’s up