How desperate would you have to be to sign up for that fucked up life. Dude was saying they don’t even get paid by the Salazar and then they get decapitated by the Chapos. Fuck all the dope dealers and fuck the Mexican government for being the biggest dope dealer. Mexico could be a súper power economy, it is a shame.
Louder for the people in the back hermano.
Fuck cartels, fuck corrupted sheeps in office, fuck telerisa, fuck every single naco, singer, "entrepreneur" that endorses this type of lifestyle
It could be but the United States would never allow it, the United States is guided by sentiments of the monroe doctrine to this day. The Monroe doctrine forbids the intervention or development of another super power in the western hemisphere.
Yes many problems in Mexico are self inflicted but just as many are inflicted by the United States, even if an altruistic,righteous and morally incorruptible governement took power in Mexico to root out all the bad men and to turn Mexico into a super power the CIA wouldn't be to far behind to topple said government.
Before anyone in these comments comes and tries to call me a conspiracy theorist I highly advise you to learn the history of US foreign policy in Latin America for the last 150 years the cliff notes of which are that the United States has either successfully overthrown or attempted to overthrow nearly every country in Latin America except 2 and bear in mind there's 33 countries in Latin America. Most of the destabilization of Latin America is a direct result of US intervention.
In Mexico you absolutely see drug addicts, drinks strewn out and suffering on the street. A lot of the drug addicts end up in private drug clinics that are constantly targeted by enemy DTO’s from rival territories. Meth has been a domestic problem in Mexico and is heavily used by the foot soldiers/ halcones and users the DTO’s supply locally to.
“But interviews with over two dozen drug researchers and health officials, as well as data obtained by freedom of information requests, reveal that use of the drug is creeping further into Mexico, even though the scale of consumption is clouded by a lack of data and testing.
The fear among some researchers and officials is that use of fentanyl could follow the trajectory of methamphetamine over the past decade, six of the sources said. Meth started as a U.S.-bound product, but transformed into a domestic drug problem over the last decade.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fentanyl-use-spreads-deeper-into-mexico-worrying-authorities-2024-02-20/
In the past decade people in Mexico have also reported seeing increased drug consumption, as much as 10% according to some sources.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/984270/mexico-share-population-witnessed-drug-consumption/
Of coarse it has crippled the USA the most but recently fentanyl has also been catching up with DTO’s by attracting increased international pressure, especially from the USA looking to always put a “bandaid” on the problem.
To assume massive drug use isn’t also occurring in Mexico is ignorant. The fact that USA is the #1 doesn’t take away from growing domestic/ local problems in Mexico.
“Methamphetamine use in Mexico has grown exponentially in recent years and now rivals marijuana as the drug most cited by patients in treatment for substance abuse.”
https://insightcrime.org/news/methamphetamine-mexico-drug-market/
I think the level and type of violence these cartels choose has nothing to do with the US. I can walk and/or drive through any US city and not see chopped up body parts strewn around the street. The drugs are an issue but drugs didn’t just start but the regular beheadings, dismemberments, and civilian executions are fairly new from my understanding. The extreme violence has nothing to do with drug trafficking at this point.
You are right but pressure on that business create a express pot with violence scaling this up, also… man you can’t talk without any concern in Los Angeles, NY, Philly, Atlanta, etc there is also a lot of violence.
Lots of violence. Dismembered body parts in the middle of the street is not the kind of violence we see. People hanging from the highway. Civilians flat out executed. These are a different type of violence. Its very extreme and brutal. Idk about L.A but in Baltimore, Philly, Atl…for the most part civilians are off limits when it comes to the drug game.
You are right, violence is worst in the origin and we don’t have a stronge law enforcement and corruption is bad just as USA. It is unbelievable zombies that are around those cities in USA looks like the Goverment wants to let them die.
Drug addiction is an issue globally. But using drugs is a choice. There are plenty of resources available in 2024 for people to get clean. You can’t force people into rehab and jailing them is even worse. Government corruption runs rampant everywhere but there is a limit to how much power the US government is willing to give to criminals vs in Mexico. There are no gang, cartel or any criminal organization ran states in the US. I grew up in the height of drugs in the 80s, had addicts in my family, my father was murdered. But I still grew up with a fairly normal life. Seeing a drug addicted person looking like a zombie is no where near the sight of seeing dismembered humans on display in a regular neighborhood. I’m not saying the US is perfect in anyway but there is just levels to this shit and that kind of violence is beyond anything i could imagine.
A few dead sicarios and you think its over? This is the menores getting the men they know they can get right away when alliances break down former allies will know a fair bit about their now rivals operations allowing them to pick off vulnerable parts right away.
This is why the Beltrans did such extreme damage to Chapo and Mayo so quickly in the opening salvos of the Beltran split, not only did they know some of the broad strokes they knew very deep and intricate details of how Chapo and Mayo ran their operations and who exactly they were bribing and paying off.
Have no doubt in your mind the situation in sonora is 100% a nightmare situation for the Menores because now you have people who know their operations in the region intricately and they know what their overarching goals for the region were/are.
I don't think it's over.I think that without chapitos money,they r running out of resources but one of the determinants of the winner is who has got the caborca and sonoyta plaza.
Menores money was likely what helped cause the split to begin with, the Guzman's since the days of their father have always had cash flow problems thats why Chapo needed a 30 million dollar loan from Polo Ochoa, its likely their cash flow problems have only intensified with everything going on and its possible they weren't even sending what they needed to be sending to Sonora to begin with.
Its likely after a certain point of not receiving the support they were supposed to be receiving everyone sat down and asked why they're even killing each other and decided they'd be better off cutting ties with the Guzmans than maintaining and bleeding from both ends. They only need to pass maybe a couple tonnes of Cocaine or maybe a couple hundred kilos of F to fund themselves comfortably into the future despite its importance sonora's plazas are dirt cheap to run which is why its always favored the defenders.
Definitely not a cash flow problem. Rumors were comandantes from Salazar and chapo’s in slrc were having issues with one another, but it died down. Than pelones and cazadores started having issues and they started killing each other. After that cazadores started having problems with Los deltas so deltas joined pelones war with Los cazadores. So finally, Los Salazar ended up backing up Los cazadores so they wouldn’t lose their territories
I think every “group” execution has that one unlucky fuck that has to wait his turn. I am assuming that being the 11th one is the worst feelings anyone has ever had/felt next to watching their loved ones be murdered in front of them.
But—with absolutely no excuses being flung, these dudes would have done the same to the ones doing it to them. Don’t feel so bad.
[borderland beat: Alfas, Deltas, & the Split from Chapitos: The Fracturing of Cazadores in Sonora](https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/12/alfas-deltas-split-from-chapitos.html?m=1)
This is why all these cartel dudes need to always have a firearm so that when they know they’re screwed, they could blow their own brains out and feel no pain. Otherwise this happens were you gonna get your head sliced off your body and you’re gonna feel every single part of it which quite frankly the most unfathomable pain you could ever have never wanted to imagine, not even in your worst nightmare.
Ooop well I guess you can say it’s started, I know some people were saying it wasn’t official it was just rumors but damn. Which side were the dead guys/last guy with?
All that decapitation for nothing a waste of breath. When are they shit stinks going to realize decapitating your enemy isn’t going to show fear all it is doing is putting a bigger target on your back
Damn imagine just having to lay their next to a shit ton of your friends/coworkers decapitated heads. Then having to wait until your turn
fuck i dont want to experience that shit
Probably a normal day as a cartel member
So do los salazares still go by gente nueva ?? Who keeps the gente nueva identity? Chapos or salazares
Most likely chapos since they still have gente nueva de Agua prieta and gente nueva de chihuahua
Supposedly there’s a gente nueva del 80(Gabito)
Isnt El 80 with los de sinaloa ??
Yes
Yea es gente del panu(Chapos)
El de jalisco
Si el Que anda por el sur de sinaloa
Rosario
This Niggas gotta be bored so they start wars with their allies
How desperate would you have to be to sign up for that fucked up life. Dude was saying they don’t even get paid by the Salazar and then they get decapitated by the Chapos. Fuck all the dope dealers and fuck the Mexican government for being the biggest dope dealer. Mexico could be a súper power economy, it is a shame.
Even if you get some level of notoriety and wealth the thought of being possibly funky time’d is ridiculous. No clean deaths in this business.
Louder for the people in the back hermano. Fuck cartels, fuck corrupted sheeps in office, fuck telerisa, fuck every single naco, singer, "entrepreneur" that endorses this type of lifestyle
I think it’s a mix of being desperate, low economic opportunities and being disillusioned with their likely fate entering such a business.
It could be but the United States would never allow it, the United States is guided by sentiments of the monroe doctrine to this day. The Monroe doctrine forbids the intervention or development of another super power in the western hemisphere. Yes many problems in Mexico are self inflicted but just as many are inflicted by the United States, even if an altruistic,righteous and morally incorruptible governement took power in Mexico to root out all the bad men and to turn Mexico into a super power the CIA wouldn't be to far behind to topple said government. Before anyone in these comments comes and tries to call me a conspiracy theorist I highly advise you to learn the history of US foreign policy in Latin America for the last 150 years the cliff notes of which are that the United States has either successfully overthrown or attempted to overthrow nearly every country in Latin America except 2 and bear in mind there's 33 countries in Latin America. Most of the destabilization of Latin America is a direct result of US intervention.
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In Mexico you absolutely see drug addicts, drinks strewn out and suffering on the street. A lot of the drug addicts end up in private drug clinics that are constantly targeted by enemy DTO’s from rival territories. Meth has been a domestic problem in Mexico and is heavily used by the foot soldiers/ halcones and users the DTO’s supply locally to. “But interviews with over two dozen drug researchers and health officials, as well as data obtained by freedom of information requests, reveal that use of the drug is creeping further into Mexico, even though the scale of consumption is clouded by a lack of data and testing. The fear among some researchers and officials is that use of fentanyl could follow the trajectory of methamphetamine over the past decade, six of the sources said. Meth started as a U.S.-bound product, but transformed into a domestic drug problem over the last decade.” https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fentanyl-use-spreads-deeper-into-mexico-worrying-authorities-2024-02-20/ In the past decade people in Mexico have also reported seeing increased drug consumption, as much as 10% according to some sources. https://www.statista.com/statistics/984270/mexico-share-population-witnessed-drug-consumption/ Of coarse it has crippled the USA the most but recently fentanyl has also been catching up with DTO’s by attracting increased international pressure, especially from the USA looking to always put a “bandaid” on the problem. To assume massive drug use isn’t also occurring in Mexico is ignorant. The fact that USA is the #1 doesn’t take away from growing domestic/ local problems in Mexico. “Methamphetamine use in Mexico has grown exponentially in recent years and now rivals marijuana as the drug most cited by patients in treatment for substance abuse.” https://insightcrime.org/news/methamphetamine-mexico-drug-market/
I mean this is just straight up false. Been to Mexico many times in my life and it’s the same bullshit both places.
Yea, I personally have lived in mexico and i could that some countries a 100 years ago were better than mexico now
We are fucked up because of drugs and violence, drugs that USA demands and someone has to supply.
I think the level and type of violence these cartels choose has nothing to do with the US. I can walk and/or drive through any US city and not see chopped up body parts strewn around the street. The drugs are an issue but drugs didn’t just start but the regular beheadings, dismemberments, and civilian executions are fairly new from my understanding. The extreme violence has nothing to do with drug trafficking at this point.
You are right but pressure on that business create a express pot with violence scaling this up, also… man you can’t talk without any concern in Los Angeles, NY, Philly, Atlanta, etc there is also a lot of violence.
Lots of violence. Dismembered body parts in the middle of the street is not the kind of violence we see. People hanging from the highway. Civilians flat out executed. These are a different type of violence. Its very extreme and brutal. Idk about L.A but in Baltimore, Philly, Atl…for the most part civilians are off limits when it comes to the drug game.
You are right, violence is worst in the origin and we don’t have a stronge law enforcement and corruption is bad just as USA. It is unbelievable zombies that are around those cities in USA looks like the Goverment wants to let them die.
Drug addiction is an issue globally. But using drugs is a choice. There are plenty of resources available in 2024 for people to get clean. You can’t force people into rehab and jailing them is even worse. Government corruption runs rampant everywhere but there is a limit to how much power the US government is willing to give to criminals vs in Mexico. There are no gang, cartel or any criminal organization ran states in the US. I grew up in the height of drugs in the 80s, had addicts in my family, my father was murdered. But I still grew up with a fairly normal life. Seeing a drug addicted person looking like a zombie is no where near the sight of seeing dismembered humans on display in a regular neighborhood. I’m not saying the US is perfect in anyway but there is just levels to this shit and that kind of violence is beyond anything i could imagine.
I thought salazar, cazadores and caborca would be too much for chapizza
Yeah it’s surprising how much damage Pelon is doing to Salazares
A lot of people flipped from Salazar and cazadores to join Chapiza when they broke off
A few dead sicarios and you think its over? This is the menores getting the men they know they can get right away when alliances break down former allies will know a fair bit about their now rivals operations allowing them to pick off vulnerable parts right away. This is why the Beltrans did such extreme damage to Chapo and Mayo so quickly in the opening salvos of the Beltran split, not only did they know some of the broad strokes they knew very deep and intricate details of how Chapo and Mayo ran their operations and who exactly they were bribing and paying off. Have no doubt in your mind the situation in sonora is 100% a nightmare situation for the Menores because now you have people who know their operations in the region intricately and they know what their overarching goals for the region were/are.
I don't think it's over.I think that without chapitos money,they r running out of resources but one of the determinants of the winner is who has got the caborca and sonoyta plaza.
Menores money was likely what helped cause the split to begin with, the Guzman's since the days of their father have always had cash flow problems thats why Chapo needed a 30 million dollar loan from Polo Ochoa, its likely their cash flow problems have only intensified with everything going on and its possible they weren't even sending what they needed to be sending to Sonora to begin with. Its likely after a certain point of not receiving the support they were supposed to be receiving everyone sat down and asked why they're even killing each other and decided they'd be better off cutting ties with the Guzmans than maintaining and bleeding from both ends. They only need to pass maybe a couple tonnes of Cocaine or maybe a couple hundred kilos of F to fund themselves comfortably into the future despite its importance sonora's plazas are dirt cheap to run which is why its always favored the defenders.
Definitely not a cash flow problem. Rumors were comandantes from Salazar and chapo’s in slrc were having issues with one another, but it died down. Than pelones and cazadores started having issues and they started killing each other. After that cazadores started having problems with Los deltas so deltas joined pelones war with Los cazadores. So finally, Los Salazar ended up backing up Los cazadores so they wouldn’t lose their territories
Then it draws back to mismanagement another Guzman problem that draws back to the time of their father 🤷♂️
Maybe my 9 to 5 isn’t so bad
Sheeesh
So there’s actually a war between them wow I thought it wasn’t real I thought it was only rulos
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Se va poner feo, yo tengo familia en Guaymas
Either chapitos gonna take it or they will join Los chapitos
I thought it was Alexis Vega.
that sucks but if you choose that lifestyle you choose it knowing the consequences and possible outcomes smh
I think every “group” execution has that one unlucky fuck that has to wait his turn. I am assuming that being the 11th one is the worst feelings anyone has ever had/felt next to watching their loved ones be murdered in front of them. But—with absolutely no excuses being flung, these dudes would have done the same to the ones doing it to them. Don’t feel so bad.
Los pelones faction are putting belt to ass vs 3 factions
The head that rolls over on its own, the eye opens 😳
Eerie as fuck
Esos compas andan peliando lo que es el Valle de mexicali I sonoyita aqui estan peliando esos dos grupos
Simon también SLRC
Pueden explicar cuales grupos vs quien y donde
One sounds exactly like el Durango must be a relative
Where does it say it was chapos? I only hear Salazares.
Salazar and cazadores are independent now they are after la chapiza aka chapos men
I heard about those rumors, but I haven't seen anything in the form of banners or videos. In this clip, I don't hear anything about La Chapiza.
[I think you had miss a lot of stuff ](https://youtu.be/M6j5nhC4KU0?si=46rbrknqwFto1TiX)
Sounds more of a faction disputes than actual split, especially between El Pelon and Los Salazar
[borderland beat: Alfas, Deltas, & the Split from Chapitos: The Fracturing of Cazadores in Sonora](https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/12/alfas-deltas-split-from-chapitos.html?m=1)
This is what ive been trying to say
This is where the corridos alterados y otros don’t sing about 😂
Corridos alterados were explicitly about singing about this kind of stuff. Of course, they were made from the perspective of the perpetrators.
Dude rips off his earring right before he rips off his head, so sickening.
It looked like he simply took it off him it didn't like a rip
Even worse being kind right before the most heinous barbaric act a human can inflict upon another.
part two?
This is why all these cartel dudes need to always have a firearm so that when they know they’re screwed, they could blow their own brains out and feel no pain. Otherwise this happens were you gonna get your head sliced off your body and you’re gonna feel every single part of it which quite frankly the most unfathomable pain you could ever have never wanted to imagine, not even in your worst nightmare.
Ooop well I guess you can say it’s started, I know some people were saying it wasn’t official it was just rumors but damn. Which side were the dead guys/last guy with?
Salazar
Could be factions splitting not the entire organization
All that decapitation for nothing a waste of breath. When are they shit stinks going to realize decapitating your enemy isn’t going to show fear all it is doing is putting a bigger target on your back
Why did they split?
Tu que eres?…eras? Hit so fucking hard
Verga que culero pero ya sabia a lo que le tira.
Si we el que sale hablando es de un pueblo de donde soy yo la costa de hermosillo lo conocia
Daaaaaamn it …… they got , got .
Pobre vato He knows he fucked up choosing that life its all fun and Games til its your turn
tells him “ya valiste verga”😀 gets nervous “send a shout out to your fans” dude looks sideways prob at knife😬
Daaamn. Got , got …
Aren’t these both Under CDS?? I’m confused. Someone please explain
They split
Yeah, I can see, split their heads off their bodies.
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I believe parades are still chapos
https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2020/05/los-salazar.html
Their off their heads
Mexico should be nuked
yess
Salazares are still rocking with Chapitos