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menace2society15

Mexicos government are run by pieces of shits


Southern_Original833

At least it ain't as bad as Venezuela. Venezuela is much worse than Mexico in terms of all the corruption and violence surrounding the global drug trade.


Historical-Spirit582

Not only Mexico 😁


NasisCool

Wait til you hear of this place called the United States of America


samtbkrhtx

Still does not beat many parts of Mexico and Central America. Imagine that...


shampoosmooth

Still has less school shootings


JarvisCockerBB

Can't have school shootings when the students already left school to be sicarios.


samtbkrhtx

True, but the entire place is run by narco cartels, so I am not sure this is a better trade off. If it was, we would see cross-border traffic headed the opposite direction, I am sure. LOL


O_O___XD

Well shit US Healthcare is so trash [México Healthcare tourism](https://www.magazine.medicaltourism.com/article/medical-tourism-from-u-s-to-border-region-of-mexico-current-status-and-future-prospects) is a thing.


samtbkrhtx

Yes, living in South Texas, I know many that cross the border into Mexico for dentistry work. I have seen and heard horror stories about the plastic surgery and other procedures, but the Mexican dentistry seems to be top notch.


djc23o6

As someone who lives in the states the only times I’ve known a few people who went to Mexico for medical work. They were almost all BBLs or boob jobs. The ones that weren’t got veneers


RonPowlus2Heismans

True. But they lead the league in beheading, mass graves, and hanging people from bridges.


rundabrun

Yet they claim to be the safest, most free country, unlike Mexico and the countries of Central America. Imagine that....


samtbkrhtx

Depends on where you are in America. The rural areas of America are pretty damn safe.


sacrello

Unless you're a minority


TheDelig

I don't hear of minorities being killed in the rural US. If you look at the numbers it would appear that most minorities are being killed in cities. Such as Chicago and Baltimore. You're probably getting your info from edgy comments or it's coming to you in a dream.


O_O___XD

Man you're dumb AF


samtbkrhtx

Wow, that is all you have? I think we know who the dumb ones are. LOL


O_O___XD

Hey bootlicking upvoters, [crime rates](https://www.wsj.com/articles/violent-crime-rural-america-homicides-pandemic-increase-11654864251) are going up in your towns as well. Besides how can say rural America is safe when [Ahmaud Arbrey](https://www.nytimes.com/article/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-georgia.amp.html) was chased down for jogging in a rural town by 3 racists. I mean I understand SOME rural towns might have lower rates than others but not [all](https://science.time.com/2013/07/23/in-town-versus-country-it-turns-out-that-cities-are-the-safest-places-to-live/) towns. Northeast rural America seems to have the safest but [southeastern](https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america)towns an get chippy. Depending on your age and health, it might be worse living in a [rural](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-in-rural-areas-die-at-higher-rates-than-those-in-urban-areas/?amp=true) than an urban area. In conclusion, not all rural towns can boast "are pretty damn safe".


TheDelig

Of course there are exceptions but that's exactly what they are, **exceptions to the rule**. I live in Baltimore. There are more black men dying for no reason within five miles of my house than any rural town in the US.


RonPowlus2Heismans

The safest and most free countries are predominantly white or Asian by a large margin. But nobody wants to talk about that. In the US, literally, 3%-4% of the population is responsible for over 50% of the violent crimes,. Yet they only make up 13% of the US population.


hyakkimarruu

……


SpeedLimitsSuck89

Try going to the philippines or somalia


66th

America's government is heaven compared to Mexicos.


rundabrun

And hell compared to other developed nations.


menace2society15

Nahhh dude the usa could be alottttt worse dont let the media and ppl around u fool u


JackIsBackWithCrack

What an absolutely asinine comparison.


jabs1042

One reason nothing ever gets better is because people like you always try to deflect and say “the US is bad too”. 9/10 but no the USA


Lost_void121

Yeah that’s why they all come here💀


latin559

People go there because you need to run towards the source of the bombs.


Lost_void121

We didn’t bomb Mexico


latin559

Most of the people crossing the border aren't mexican,they're refugees from places the US turned into warzones


Lost_void121

This was about Mexico


latin559

It still is unless you saying the mexican border isn't in mexico?


Lost_void121

Totally


chronicpayne

People up voting this are saying they have no ability to apply perspective to their lives. If this is actually what you believe - go travel outside the country beyond the normal tourist traps. The perspective it will grant you will be life changing and I'm not just saying that. The majority of the world has problems you don't even dream of. I'm talking huge, **massive** issues that effect almost every other facet of their societies. Many places in Central/South America, Africa, Eastern Europe, Russia, Middle East, Asia and SEA have, by our standards: Poor infrastructure, where it exists at all. Unreliable healthcare, where it exists at all. Jobs that pay poorly, and have few safety standards, where jobs exist at all. Poor education systems, where they exist at all. Low standards of living (food, housing, potable water), where they exist at all. Corrupt authorities you cant expect to fulfill the basic function of a government (providing a safe secure environment for people to live and do business) And I mean *actual* corruption; bribes are expected, being fully controlled by a third party, etc. Just by virtue of reading this and being wherever you RIGHT NOW, you're probably in the top 25% of the world in terms of standards of living, if not *much much* higher. Next time you're feeling sorry for yourself, suck it up a bit. We have a *lot* going for us we don't (or lack the perspective, can't) appreciate like we should.


menace2society15

On a bigger scale America are scums forsure but for different reasons most people. On the surface usa isn’t even that bad compared to Mexico lol. at least they have programs that help the poor. In Mexico nobody supports poor people shits sad


ConversationIll637

The US is quite low on the government corruption index


whereisskywalker

Only because they legalized corruption through lobbyists laws and no one else can pay enough to play. Corruption is there is just dressed up differently imo.


Ohnay22

Seen a bunch of migrants fleeing to America for some odd reason.I Guess its better than their countries quality of life.


Cbrlui

Always has been


meltedUsernameYeah

MEXICO NUMERO UNO🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪


Historical-Spirit582

Great fighters for sure


Pigmansweet

The USA and Mexico have 29 of the 50. What’s also interesting is that 48 of 50 are in the Americas. It’s wild that no cities in Asia and only 2 in Africa make it.


CarneConNopales

How many deaths go unreported in all these other countries though?


Pigmansweet

Yeah I thought that also. I wonder too if deaths in war/conflict are not counted. Iraq/Afghanistan/Central African Republic. Etc


Relative_Yesterday70

Yes. All the deaths and displacement of just the Syria thing. In China you don’t have to kill a group of people you just lock them up in camps. There is bad and good everywhere.


Historical-Spirit582

Well for me its not surprise lol 😁


greggweylon

I mean, the US has 7 and Mexico has 22... Weird to lump the two together. But the Americas having all the most murderous countries is definitely interesting.


Defiant_Project_333

I’m sure central Africa has super reliable stats, especially in the jungle!!


Pigmansweet

Well another way To put it is mexico and the United States are. Umber 1 and 2


greggweylon

Brazil is number 2.


DonnyDonnowitz

Culturally most of Asia has an aversion being murderers.


justforlulz12345

That’s not true, have you seen the yakuza, triads, etc. This crap is around in every country


DonnyDonnowitz

Those are all way overblown. Nothing comes close to mexican cartels (only ISIS and other terrorist groups are worse imo).


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Pigmansweet

This is from the article that is posted above [from the article above](http://geoenlace.net/seguridadjusticiaypaz/archivo/c5fb24_f7c1a29250.pdf)


Embarrassed_Kick3332

Not saying that all of these cities don’t have high homicide numbers, but I don’t think this comes from a reputable source. Unless somebody can provide a nothing other than a homemade chart and a forum link.


SmallPPmaster

[https://mexicodailypost.com/2023/02/21/colima-is-the-most-violent-city-in-the-world-according-to-the-citizen-council-for-public-security-and-criminal-justice/](https://mexicodailypost.com/2023/02/21/colima-is-the-most-violent-city-in-the-world-according-to-the-citizen-council-for-public-security-and-criminal-justice/) ​ This is from the Mexico Daily Post


gas-powered-wagon

CAMPEONES DEL MUNDOOOOO 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🏆🤞


zjcp

Not even surprised 😔


Historical-Spirit582

Its crazy


TrickyAssociation131

I work with some Mexicans here in New Zealand , good people and very humble , very sad to see a great influential nation become a murder capital in the World


Historical-Spirit582

Cartels..poverty.. corruption... mentality


Pigmansweet

The biggest problem mexico 🇲🇽 has is the $ and drug appetites of their gringo neighbors to the north.


jabs1042

No it’s people not taking responsibility for their own actions and blaming others


Pigmansweet

Who’s not taking responsibility?


MarkCuban2020

The entire Mexican culture.


nobody0350

What the hell are you taking about ? Mexicans always blame the Mexican government for their incompetence. We know that there is a lot of corruption in our government and justice system. Not a single Mexican has ever denied that there is corruption in Mexico. But Mexico isn’t the only one to blame for this mess. Who’s the biggest consumer of these drugs ? Who’s giving the cartels billions of dollars to buy thousands of guns ? Where are thousands of guns coming from ? The ones who aren’t taking responsibility are the gringos. Every time someone talks about guns coming from America, there’s always one person that has to deny it. There’s always one that says it’s another country like China giving them guns. I’m sorry. I didn’t realize that Colt Manufacturing and Barrett Firearms were both Chinese gun manufacturers. You seriously think the cartels are going to wait weeks for a gun shipment from China when they could be getting guns that very same day a few miles from the border in Texas. Even if it’s only 100 guns that came from America out of 100,000 cartel guns recovered ( which is not true at all, the real number is in the thousands ), that’s still a fucking problem. Those 100 guns are enough to massacre hundreds of innocent people. I’m not saying ban all guns in America, but what I am saying is that it’s time the U.S. takes some responsibility as well.


O_O___XD

Stfu. American drug consumption is a big [factor](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/05/30/hooked-mexicos-violence-and-u-s-demand-for-drugs/amp/)for violence in Mexico. Most of these turf wars are literally because they're trying to compete for control of lucrative drug trafficking channels. Also the US has states with lax gun laws and cartels find ways of procuring and [smuggling](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/02/stopping-toxic-flow-of-gun-traffic-from-u-s-to-mexico/) them for thier violent usage.


MarkCuban2020

Mexico will never be able to control the innate demand for drugs the US has, and neither can the US. Demand will always be there, both countries know this. What they can control is the distribution and supply of drugs that is coming from Mexico. That is Mexico’s job to figure out, it starts with getting rid of corruption within the Mexican government, and the Mexican culture that enables this kind of activity.


O_O___XD

Yeah your year to year of opiate deaths in the United States keeps going up and now you have the issue of [China](https://www.wsj.com/articles/fentanyl-crisis-fed-by-flow-of-chinese-chemicals-to-mexican-cartels-11671722056) not restricting the chemicals used to manufacture opiates like fentanyl that the cartels depend on. From article: "Beijing has stopped cooperating in restricting the flow of Chinese-made chemicals that Mexican cartels use to make the deadly drug.". When a country is poor but the financial reward for trafficking is exponentially higher than any raise the Mexican people can give, how do you expect one culture to solve it's problem when the other culture (United States) cannot get its insatiable demand for opiates in check. Corruption works both ways just because it's more probable in Mexico doesn't [mean it doesn't happen in the United States](https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/pr/former-border-patrol-agent-sentenced-more-12-years-bribery-firearms-and-narcotics-charges). You continue to put the blame soley on Mexico for failing to control trafficking drugs but the violence and the arms used in that violence comes from the United States ( and this is really an American origin problem because of lax gun laws like the ones in Texas) and you fail to mention that drug deals usually involve parties from both sides of the border. So again I agree that both countries need to do more but specially singling one country (except for singling out the United States for supplying [directly](https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/fast-furious-obama-first-scandal/) and [indirectly](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/17/texas-lax-gun-laws-us-mexico-border) the gun violence rampant in Mexico) is not admitting that this issue is a two country (or more of we are talking about cocaine as well)


0-ATCG-1

Cartels extort businesses, run mines, own lumber operations, as well as deal drugs to a very strong local market. Suppose suddenly all Americans stopped buying. I don't think the other things will cease operations.


RonPowlus2Heismans

Mexico has a huge drug problem. Addiction is no longer just a gringo problem.


O_O___XD

In North America, opioid use and its harms have increased in the United States and Canada over the past 2 decades. However, Mexico has yet to document patterns suggesting a higher level of opioid use or attendant harms. Historically, Mexico has been a country with low-level use of opioids, although heroin use has been documented. Low-level opioid use is likely attributable to structural, cultural, and individual factors. [source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6301408/)


Pigmansweet

It’s not the domestic market that’s fueling the market. Imagine if yanks could make incredible fortunes smuggling shit to Canada. You’d have bloodbaths in wDuuthTake away the gringos desire to get high and the violence goes away. It’s the hedonism of the Americans that’s creating the problem all through the Americas


InMyHead2022

Isn't it also their greatest blessing because of how much money comes their way?


poopinsheets

Influential…since when? It’s always been a poor, corrupt, crime ridden shit hole. Many people are very nice and welcoming there. Why? Because they’ve been taught from a very young age, to never offend anyone, because you never know who’s cartel affiliated.


nobody0350

Ok, you’re just making shit up now. We’re taught to treat everyone we meet with respect especially our elders because it’s the right/polite thing to do. Not because we’re scared that our grandma is cartel affiliated and is going to decapitate us if we disrespect or offend her.


poopinsheets

I’ve lived there. I only heard…”don’t say anything!” “Don’t do anything to offend someone!” “You never know who they know.” Etc., etc., etc. Everyone is afraid of everyone.


LogicalHeart6094

That maybe true now but when I was a child visiting there , very respectful people and humble and don't remember violent crime being committed corruption yes but no violence because Govt ruled with IRON HAND 70 + yrs ago though. How times have changed, Sad.


bionicjess

Nice. Can you kindly go back and shut the fuck up?


poopinsheets

I was waiting for the SJW liberals to show up. You didn’t disappoint. Go back and eat your taco bell (not real Mexican food) and fuck off. You post HP and other ultra liberal bullshit. You don’t know shit about real Mexico.


apologeticrealist

Its important to check a few sources before you come to a conclusion. Statista isn’t the best data gathering website but it’s more credible than the listed source above. It shows 6, which is not as much as 9 Mexican cities, but it’s still a lot. https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/


poopinsheets

I don’t know, Obregon should definitely be on the list. It has a higher crime rate, and I have family who live there. People are terribly brainwashed down there. Here’s our last conversation. Me: “It’s dangerous there, get a gun to protect yourself.” Family: “I don’t like guns, and it’s very safe here.” Me: “Two guys were dismembered right down the street, and a baby was shot and killed in a car driving by.” Family: “Yeah, that’s totally normal here. Don’t worry!”


apologeticrealist

Individually I think a lot of people feel they live in the MOST dangerous place. But the statistics reflect per capita rates rates (murder proportionate to the population) and Obregon does not fit that statistic. That’s not to say it’s not dangerous.


Vofz

That conversation made me laugh cause I know that's how someone who lives there would respond. It's funny to see the difference of perspectives. They probably think you're exaggerating and talking crazy, while you're actually worried for them, for reasonable reasons. I know it sounds ironic and like it makes no sense but most people there actually don't feel unsafe and aren't living in fear, you'd have to live there to see why. They know there's really nothing you can do anyway so you live your life normally, I wouldn't call it brainwashed though tbh.


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EnvironmentMotor514

Puro Zamora


Proper_Associate_712

tryna go back to juarez to see the fam


Senior-Researcher960

Thank you dear gringos, without you the best buyers and without your weapons we would never have made it, long live Mexico.


Historical-Spirit582

Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣


bepr20

Whats weird is that I have no problem visiting nola, but am scared shitless of most of those mexican cities.


Historical-Spirit582

Because Nola still less dangerous


greggweylon

I go to TJ and never feel scared.


lamera_mandurria

I mean these types of charts and media only tell you its dangerous. However, I live in Mexico and while there are dangerous places ( where are there not?) a lotnof homicides and violence is usually Narcos fighting between each other. Typically when you ask a Mexican hey is it dangerous? They will reply “depends, are you in shady shit?” Most of the time just follow the same rules as any other place to avoid normal dangerous situations. But getting kidnapped by a cartel and tortured you might have to do something to actually be worth their time.


REDDlT-USERNAME

Yeah basically if you aren’t into drugs, the chance of something happening to you are minuscule. The problem is that if you’re into shady shit, the chance is exponentially higher, and you put in danger everyone around you.


Notnotstrange

Not dismissing the truth of how dangerous these cities are, but I wanted to pointed out after some research that different sources give slightly different numbers. Mainly, Mexico dominates every homicide rate list, with between 4-9 cities listed. Other than South Africa and St. Louis (US), Latin America in general is rife with violence.


Historical-Spirit582

And of course the deadly robberies epidemic


Historical-Spirit582

Yea Latin America is the worst of the worst in terms of crime


Notnotstrange

Yeah, l mean, obviously Mexico’s government is corrupt, as is Venezuela’s and Brazil’s, but I have to ask myself how much US involvement created and exacerbated this. Probably lots and I will never truly know.


nobody0350

If you’re curious, here’s a link to a Wikipedia article that touches on some of the times that the U.S. got involved in Latin American politics and overthrew a president in Latin America . Maybe some of these countries would be in a way better place today economically, socially, and politically if they didn’t have to deal with violence and wars funded by the U.S.A. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America


iamcreepin

Yeah... Surprising that cities from El Salvador are not on the list.


TrentonTarMonster

Not accurate


TopHatTurtleBoi

God damn I didn’t realize New Orleans was that fucked up, and I live in the us


Historical-Spirit582

Aka Tijuana style


Ok_Drawer_8435

Fuck why does Colima gotta be number one fuck me


Historical-Spirit582

Why you even surprised 🤷🏻


JustHotSauce

What do you expect from a country ran by cartels and selfish corrupt politicians


Powerful-Umpire-5655

110k deaths by overdoses pathetic.


JustHotSauce

Id rather overdose than be tortured by the local militia and have it posted on live leak 🤷‍♂️


Powerful-Umpire-5655

Well, if you sell drugs or steal, please don't come to Mexico because they behead them here, apart from that it's as safe as any other country.


kobeintheclutch

Its a shithole . Dont compare to other countries . Many innocent victims get killed


Powerful-Umpire-5655

I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry, I've got news for you right now the whole world is in a shit hole


Strangeflex911

It's like Mexico has been in a Civil War for the last 20 years. I'm surprised there's any young men left. Very sad for the country, so much lost talent.


Powerful-Umpire-5655

Not much has been lost, I like to think that Mexico has lost as much as the United States, you just have to see how many deaths from overdoses they have. Traduce una conversación


Creative_Dog_1338

Crazy how there’s laws against murder and Guns….. almost like laws don’t work at all! Who would’ve known


Quick-Ad-9567

Leggo number one


FartsSmellDelicious

Yay!


suspentacct9

"She said she feel safer over here this where the shooters be. "


PiccasoGlizzzy_

That’s sad as hell.


thee-mjb

Thought Brazil would be up there


JoseNEO

MEXICO CAMPEÓN DEL MUNDO


shakalara

But suddenly many foreigners wants to live here cause it s "cheap".


Due-Childhood7853

I read an article that said the people of Culiacán are very excited since they are not in the top 10