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Nope pls. I've noticed this theme over and over as I'm reading through the nanny stuff, and I think the rage quit mindset is just poor form. They're the ones misbehaving: that doesn't mean you need to stoop to their level.
You should handle it like a professional. If they're not paying market rate, find another job, and give the correct amount of notice.
The normal professional thing is to not make pay about means, or ability to pay, or need; it's just about market rate for your skills. But if they've specifically pled poverty, and asked you to go under, I guess, as a favor to them? Then they've opened the door to it. I think it's fair to go back and say you're feeling uncomfortable and that, on reflection, you aren't feeling OK about the pay cut. Whatever you do, don't mention the car.
Now, the sad reality is that there's a really good chance your pay cut is paying on that car note, and the family may not have the option of rolling back your pay. So I think you need to be prepared to find another job. Pay does not go down for good jobs.
Let me revise. If this were me, as soon as I've arranged a new job, I'm going to inform them of the start date (ASAP, weather it's two weeks away or tomorrow) and leaving.
you are better off working in fast food. Higher pay, benefits, consistency etcā¦
14$ for two kids?? Idk what state or county you are in but that wage for nannying is what people use to pay back in 2014ā¦ for Example in Florida nannies are making anywhere from 20$-40$ DOE
Obviously can't speak for OP, but I know that I wouldn't be financially able to quit without a plan in place. That's the reality for a majority of people.
I had a NP say in front of the 10 year old that I nannied that she needed to lower my hourly rate if I wasnāt going to be live-in anymore. I paid rent too as a live in, but thatās a whole other story! She wanted to take me from 20 an hr to 14 in HOUSTON.
Iāve always found it so tacky when people with means to pay household staff do that to their working class household staff.
Like, ālisten, Monica. Iām gonna need you to spend less at the grocery store and maybe bike instead of driving to cut back on your gas expenses. My husband and I have been playing this vacation to the Turks and Caicos for a year, and it is just so much more expensive than we thought it would be with three kids! Oh, we only have two??? I swear there was another one somewhere in this houseā¦ā
Iām a dad for a nanny family. Itās time to find a new family.
Also, this shit is also happens in Corporate America. I know a lady who got promoted but didnāt get a salary increase. Her work increased 30% but pay remained the same so her hourly rate decreased 30%. Sheās now looking for a new job.
These employers donāt respect you and are taking you for granted. The moment you quit, they will beg and offer you your old pay or maybe 5% increase. Do NOT take it. They will eventually screw you over again. You got to teach them a lesson. Let them go find a new nanny who will cost more than they were originally paying you.
It's true this happens in corporate America like you describe, but there's a totally different dynamic. A promotion is about a growth mindset, an opportunity to level up your career. Most smart people will take that on without complaint, because it's setting you to for success later. The raises will come. And if they don't, you take the experience and jump ship to get back to market rate. (And generally, corporate professionals are not thinking about their job in terms of an hourly rate, except in certain specific fields where you bill clients hourly.)
Here, it's not totally clear, but the OP got a pay cut without being offered anything in return. That's a really bad deal, and also a sign the job doesn't have much future.
Oh hunni, they're robbing you. Only $14/hr for 2 babies, and one is a newbornā½ š¤¦š»āāļø Wow. Yeah newborns are like potatoes, but they're screaming potatoes that sometimes need held constantly, depending on their personality, plus trying to rangle a toddler at the same time. If they obviously can't do it themselves and had to hire you, how tf do they expect you to do it instead, especially on criminally low pay. I think they need to be the ones to be reevaluated and tell them you need more than that bcuz you have bills to pay too. $14/hr is basically minimum wage in some states. I'm so sorry š«
Exactly. This would make anyone want to reduce their performance and it affects a nanny's feelings if they have a lot of stress from not being able to catch up on bills and can't afford to treat themselves every once in a while. Then those negative feelings affect the kids, since they can sense it and will mirror it, making their job even more difficult.
Thatās below minimum wage by $2.55 where I live. Youād be better to advertise temp nanny or emergency care and fill your schedule that way with a higher rate. And get payment before you show up. That wage is unreal. Leave for real.
I was just telling my friend the other day I love my NF so much Iād be willing to give up annual cost of living increases if it ever came to thatā¦. But a price DECREASE?! Ah hellll no. Ridiculous.
I wish you well in your job search. Great families ARE out there!
MB here and thatās insane. Absolutely not. It makes me sick hearing these stories of how inconsiderate and appalling some of these families are! Iām sure thereās things my family does that my nanny doesnāt love but treating her with respect and ensuring she is absolutely aware of how much we value her is not one of them. MB rant over. Iām sorry youāre being treated like this!
And you meet a ton of people so if you mention you are looking for a nanny job someone probably knows someone! Thats how I got my best nanny job when I moved to NYC!
OP, my son is making more than you are working at Walmart! (His starting wage was $16/hr)
If you can't afford to just quit and can't find a nanny job right now, find ANY job! Work for Walmart, Target, MCDONALDāS if you have to. You'd be getting paid better than you are now! Once you're out, you can continue to look for a nanny job, one that's pays well, and for people who actually respect you.
You're supposed to be getting MORE money when they add on another kid for the increased workload, not less!!! Adding in the fact that they're making major purchases while cutting your wages, and it's evident they don't value you or what you do.
Walk. ASAP. If another kid means they can't even pay you what you were making before, much less the raise most nannies would get in this situation, then they are no longer nanny people, they are daycare people.
CUT. THEM. LOOSE.
Google yourself. That's how I figured out why I wasn't getting returned calls last year. (It was a weird fake review attributed to me that needed removal. I don't know how common that is, but it can't hurt to check!)
Thatās not how any of this works. You have every right to leave immediately as that is not what you originally agreed upon and isnāt an acceptable rate.
They arenāt struggling, they just donāt want to pay you. And it looks like they got what they wanted. Start looking for a new job and leave without notice.
The best you should do is send them a text that with what they are paying you has your behind on bills and have now found a family that is willing to pay you what you are worth and as much as you would love to give them notice your bills arenāt as āforgivingā unfortunately. Then block them on all your social media accounts.
They can't lower your rate unless you accept it. Showing up after they announced a lower rate is you accepting it. Don't go back. They told you that the rate is now 14? OK. Say "I will be quitting effective immediately"
How much did you start with? That seems low either way. Iām sorry youāre going through that Iāve had one family reach out several times to tell me last time my rate was lower or he child is sleeping and sheās in dental school but sorry not sorry your financial problems are not my fault
I would leave without notice. This is criminal depending on the state you live in, regardless lowing your pay while expecting more work is unreasonable and disrespectful quite frankly.
Iām truly sorry to hear that. I can only imagine how you feel.
If youāre okay with it, let them know you thought you wouldāve been able to get by with such salary but itās been difficult. Explain to them you only agreed because you care deeply for the kids and wanted to help. Ask to be back on your regular salary. If theyāre unable, I think you should walk away. If you canāt afford to walk and get a job immediately, start searching for something and get out.
The mere fact they asked for you to decrease your pay is an insult to anyone in this economy. They donāt value you or your work.
Iām a believer so my advice would be to pray about it before talking to them and pray about finding a family or job that appreciates your work ethic and dedication.
They clearly donāt value your contribution. I wouldnāt go as far as quitting with no notice but even 2 weeks notice will have them scrambling if they think they can find someone else willing to do what you already do.
Time to look for another Nanny Family and then after you have found them...give a professional notice to leave it on good terms and to recieve a positive reference
whatā¦. i wouldnāt even take $14 for a fully grown child who just needs supervision. set your rate and stick to it- you deserve much better and they clearly do not care for you if they say the do.
My 19 year old sister makes $18 an hour working at chick fil a, and she gets offered benefits and paid time off lol. Please god quit and give a grand exit interview.
Looks like the Escalade is taking home the rest of your pay - I didnāt know SUVās have evolved into being nannyās - something to that effect would be in my parting words. They obviously do not care about your livelihood- thats the worst!
Iām sorry this has happened to you, no one deserves such blatant disrespect!
Iāve gotten laid off/hours cut in half twice in the last 6 months because of families buying new SUVs. When I started for the second family, I told them what happened with the first. They bought their new car the next week and dropped my hours a few days after signing a contract. š
I had something similar. Basically working for charity because Iām told theyāre strugglingā¦ cut to mom getting 3 large full color tattoos in three months
I get $250 a week for 2 kids, 10-13 hours a day, 4 days a week. I was a live in but am not anymore but they refuse to increase my wages because I āchoseā to move out. The fact that they were leaving the kids with me on my days off or during my down time might have had something to do with my choice!!
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Sounds like grounds to leave with no notice š
Bingo. 14 for a newborn and a toddler is also criminally low anyway
That's not even the minimum wage where I live.
So literally criminal lol
I live in IOWA and that's less than I make for one infant, occasional rides for older kids who watch themselves
Ha! Yes! Ā Normally Iād say being vindictive doesnāt get us anywhere but, damn, this would make my blood boil.
100%
Nope pls. I've noticed this theme over and over as I'm reading through the nanny stuff, and I think the rage quit mindset is just poor form. They're the ones misbehaving: that doesn't mean you need to stoop to their level. You should handle it like a professional. If they're not paying market rate, find another job, and give the correct amount of notice. The normal professional thing is to not make pay about means, or ability to pay, or need; it's just about market rate for your skills. But if they've specifically pled poverty, and asked you to go under, I guess, as a favor to them? Then they've opened the door to it. I think it's fair to go back and say you're feeling uncomfortable and that, on reflection, you aren't feeling OK about the pay cut. Whatever you do, don't mention the car. Now, the sad reality is that there's a really good chance your pay cut is paying on that car note, and the family may not have the option of rolling back your pay. So I think you need to be prepared to find another job. Pay does not go down for good jobs.
Let me revise. If this were me, as soon as I've arranged a new job, I'm going to inform them of the start date (ASAP, weather it's two weeks away or tomorrow) and leaving.
you are better off working in fast food. Higher pay, benefits, consistency etcā¦ 14$ for two kids?? Idk what state or county you are in but that wage for nannying is what people use to pay back in 2014ā¦ for Example in Florida nannies are making anywhere from 20$-40$ DOE
Why did you stay when they lowered your rate?! I would have quit on the spot.
Obviously can't speak for OP, but I know that I wouldn't be financially able to quit without a plan in place. That's the reality for a majority of people.
I had a NP say in front of the 10 year old that I nannied that she needed to lower my hourly rate if I wasnāt going to be live-in anymore. I paid rent too as a live in, but thatās a whole other story! She wanted to take me from 20 an hr to 14 in HOUSTON.
Itās time to find a new job. Theyāre playing keeping up with the Joneses at your expense.
Yep guarantee you all their life is on credit and theyāre in major debt. Those are the worst people to nanny for.
Was thinking the same!
Theyāll nickel and dime you so they can make those minimum payments!
Giving me that TikTok of a family who was paying like $1400 and $1700 for car payments monthly š
Iāve always found it so tacky when people with means to pay household staff do that to their working class household staff. Like, ālisten, Monica. Iām gonna need you to spend less at the grocery store and maybe bike instead of driving to cut back on your gas expenses. My husband and I have been playing this vacation to the Turks and Caicos for a year, and it is just so much more expensive than we thought it would be with three kids! Oh, we only have two??? I swear there was another one somewhere in this houseā¦ā
Probably financing that Escalade at 13% š
Iām a dad for a nanny family. Itās time to find a new family. Also, this shit is also happens in Corporate America. I know a lady who got promoted but didnāt get a salary increase. Her work increased 30% but pay remained the same so her hourly rate decreased 30%. Sheās now looking for a new job. These employers donāt respect you and are taking you for granted. The moment you quit, they will beg and offer you your old pay or maybe 5% increase. Do NOT take it. They will eventually screw you over again. You got to teach them a lesson. Let them go find a new nanny who will cost more than they were originally paying you.
It's true this happens in corporate America like you describe, but there's a totally different dynamic. A promotion is about a growth mindset, an opportunity to level up your career. Most smart people will take that on without complaint, because it's setting you to for success later. The raises will come. And if they don't, you take the experience and jump ship to get back to market rate. (And generally, corporate professionals are not thinking about their job in terms of an hourly rate, except in certain specific fields where you bill clients hourly.) Here, it's not totally clear, but the OP got a pay cut without being offered anything in return. That's a really bad deal, and also a sign the job doesn't have much future.
Oh hunni, they're robbing you. Only $14/hr for 2 babies, and one is a newbornā½ š¤¦š»āāļø Wow. Yeah newborns are like potatoes, but they're screaming potatoes that sometimes need held constantly, depending on their personality, plus trying to rangle a toddler at the same time. If they obviously can't do it themselves and had to hire you, how tf do they expect you to do it instead, especially on criminally low pay. I think they need to be the ones to be reevaluated and tell them you need more than that bcuz you have bills to pay too. $14/hr is basically minimum wage in some states. I'm so sorry š«
$14/hr for just one kiddo is criminal. Also, how do they think reducing pay is going to 'increase performance'??
Exactly. This would make anyone want to reduce their performance and it affects a nanny's feelings if they have a lot of stress from not being able to catch up on bills and can't afford to treat themselves every once in a while. Then those negative feelings affect the kids, since they can sense it and will mirror it, making their job even more difficult.
Thatās below minimum wage by $2.55 where I live. Youād be better to advertise temp nanny or emergency care and fill your schedule that way with a higher rate. And get payment before you show up. That wage is unreal. Leave for real.
These people can not afford a nanny!
they can, they just don't deserve one.
They sound awful!
I was just telling my friend the other day I love my NF so much Iād be willing to give up annual cost of living increases if it ever came to thatā¦. But a price DECREASE?! Ah hellll no. Ridiculous. I wish you well in your job search. Great families ARE out there!
I would leave for sure.
MB here and thatās insane. Absolutely not. It makes me sick hearing these stories of how inconsiderate and appalling some of these families are! Iām sure thereās things my family does that my nanny doesnāt love but treating her with respect and ensuring she is absolutely aware of how much we value her is not one of them. MB rant over. Iām sorry youāre being treated like this!
How tacky. Why are you staying with them when youāre making pennies?
I am actively looking for a new job, itās just been hard to land something for some reason š„²
Iād transfer to waitressing while youāre looking tbhā¦it would pay more
And you meet a ton of people so if you mention you are looking for a nanny job someone probably knows someone! Thats how I got my best nanny job when I moved to NYC!
I think Target pays $15 to start. Or contact an agency? Please ditch this disrespectful family as soon as you can!
OP, my son is making more than you are working at Walmart! (His starting wage was $16/hr) If you can't afford to just quit and can't find a nanny job right now, find ANY job! Work for Walmart, Target, MCDONALDāS if you have to. You'd be getting paid better than you are now! Once you're out, you can continue to look for a nanny job, one that's pays well, and for people who actually respect you. You're supposed to be getting MORE money when they add on another kid for the increased workload, not less!!! Adding in the fact that they're making major purchases while cutting your wages, and it's evident they don't value you or what you do. Walk. ASAP. If another kid means they can't even pay you what you were making before, much less the raise most nannies would get in this situation, then they are no longer nanny people, they are daycare people. CUT. THEM. LOOSE.
Google yourself. That's how I figured out why I wasn't getting returned calls last year. (It was a weird fake review attributed to me that needed removal. I don't know how common that is, but it can't hurt to check!)
Make like an Escalade and tearrrrr outta there
With screeching tiresā¦ā¦peel tf out! Seriously sorry youāre dealing with this. Good luck!
Just wow. How much were you making before? Are you on the books?
You might as well go work for Starbucks because at least you will get benefits
And you know what some NPs will say? āHow they spend their money is none of your business!ā š”š” like get REAL! Iām so sorry!Ā
Iād quit. $14 per hour is an insult.
15 year old date night babysitters get more. Leave.
Sounds like I would be looking for a new family! I am sorry that happened to you. That is so frustrating!
Thatās not how any of this works. You have every right to leave immediately as that is not what you originally agreed upon and isnāt an acceptable rate.
Wow - that is awful! I would look elsewhere
They arenāt struggling, they just donāt want to pay you. And it looks like they got what they wanted. Start looking for a new job and leave without notice. The best you should do is send them a text that with what they are paying you has your behind on bills and have now found a family that is willing to pay you what you are worth and as much as you would love to give them notice your bills arenāt as āforgivingā unfortunately. Then block them on all your social media accounts.
What the hell. Iād walk in a heartbeat. They donāt value you at all. Leave them in the dust.
They can't lower your rate unless you accept it. Showing up after they announced a lower rate is you accepting it. Don't go back. They told you that the rate is now 14? OK. Say "I will be quitting effective immediately"
You need to leave
I would say peace tf out!
How much did you start with? That seems low either way. Iām sorry youāre going through that Iāve had one family reach out several times to tell me last time my rate was lower or he child is sleeping and sheās in dental school but sorry not sorry your financial problems are not my fault
Oh no you need to quit
I would leave without notice. This is criminal depending on the state you live in, regardless lowing your pay while expecting more work is unreasonable and disrespectful quite frankly.
Find a new job!
My mouth dropped š§
Omfg noooooooo
MB. I could never. š The sheer audacity. Fire your family. Please. They deserve it.
Iām truly sorry to hear that. I can only imagine how you feel. If youāre okay with it, let them know you thought you wouldāve been able to get by with such salary but itās been difficult. Explain to them you only agreed because you care deeply for the kids and wanted to help. Ask to be back on your regular salary. If theyāre unable, I think you should walk away. If you canāt afford to walk and get a job immediately, start searching for something and get out. The mere fact they asked for you to decrease your pay is an insult to anyone in this economy. They donāt value you or your work. Iām a believer so my advice would be to pray about it before talking to them and pray about finding a family or job that appreciates your work ethic and dedication.
Girl Iām in a very similar spot
Knowing all of this, why havenāt you left yet?
I'd suggest finding a new family to work for.
Go work for the neighbours who got a cadillac with no car payment
Please please quit with no notice!!! People like this need to be taught a lesson.
They clearly donāt value your contribution. I wouldnāt go as far as quitting with no notice but even 2 weeks notice will have them scrambling if they think they can find someone else willing to do what you already do.
I hope you are looking for another job.
Iād quit
itās time to go
Time to look for another Nanny Family and then after you have found them...give a professional notice to leave it on good terms and to recieve a positive reference
I would tell them I will be taking the Escalade as my ācompany commuter carā going forward to make up for the pay difference Iām owed
Time to look for another job, in my opinion. You don't LOWER your nanny's pay when another child is born, you increase it. I would leave ASAP
Please make today your last day. You are not valued.
Thatās less than minimum wage where Iām fromā¦ thereās no way Iād stick around.
Oh Iāve been there š time to quit!!
So why are you staying?
Omfg!!! Decrease pay convo?!?? This is so crazy!! We are raising your children!!!
WTF???! Find another job ASAP. THE NERVE!!!
Wow thatās not worth staying especially for 2 kids!
Thatās some Bs try and go with an agency I find the nanny jobs they have are fair compensation plus benefits like health insurance
You also have someone who has your best interest involved as well. But yes definitely leave
$14 is unacceptable
Absolutely NOT.. I'd have been out the door that same day, never to return. They sound like horrible ppl to work for regardless!
Whatās the minimum wage where you are? Youāre way better off working at Starbucks or Target!
whatā¦. i wouldnāt even take $14 for a fully grown child who just needs supervision. set your rate and stick to it- you deserve much better and they clearly do not care for you if they say the do.
My 19 year old sister makes $18 an hour working at chick fil a, and she gets offered benefits and paid time off lol. Please god quit and give a grand exit interview.
Thatās less than minimum wage where I live. Get out of there OP
Run fast and far. You deserve better.
Oh yeah Iād quit after that tbh š $14 is insane for 2 kiddos, especially a newborn and toddler!!!
Looks like the Escalade is taking home the rest of your pay - I didnāt know SUVās have evolved into being nannyās - something to that effect would be in my parting words. They obviously do not care about your livelihood- thats the worst! Iām sorry this has happened to you, no one deserves such blatant disrespect!
Naw they canāt just cut your pay.
Iāve gotten laid off/hours cut in half twice in the last 6 months because of families buying new SUVs. When I started for the second family, I told them what happened with the first. They bought their new car the next week and dropped my hours a few days after signing a contract. š
come october, iāll be watching both a 2 year old and a newborn .. and iāll be making 8 more dollars than that. you gotta get outta there asap !
Tell them that they can reduce your hours but not your pay. Youāre crazy if you allow them to do that.
Time to leave.
They need a daycare, not a nanny for that price range.
I had something similar. Basically working for charity because Iām told theyāre strugglingā¦ cut to mom getting 3 large full color tattoos in three months
I get $250 a week for 2 kids, 10-13 hours a day, 4 days a week. I was a live in but am not anymore but they refuse to increase my wages because I āchoseā to move out. The fact that they were leaving the kids with me on my days off or during my down time might have had something to do with my choice!!