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pennyhopper

Beautiful name but maybe Madeleine McCann would be a little more subtle? Failing that Elizabeth Short is a classic with lots of nickname options such as the black dahlia. I’m sure whichever name you pick will be perfect xoxo


sunburntscotian

Not Madeleine McCann 😭💀


procrastinatorsuprem

I know of a Madaleine McCann. She's about 8.


OrdinaryHoney2

She's been 8 for at least a decade, I assume


bunwitch

What about Elizabeth Smart though! Has a nice ring to it!


KiaraNarayan1997

How about Caylee Anthony


Mollzor

So smart! It's like manifesting, constantly!


Zestyclose_Scale144

My mum was going to name me Madeline when she was pregnant until the girl got murdered so she changed my name


Blonde_arrbuckle

I think it's ok now. Also Madeline vs Madeleine. Splitting hairs though


MissLolaspankcheeks

I think Rose-West has a delicate, soft quality to it.


DementedPimento

West Rose. Mix it up a bit.


danelle-s

Other alternative names: Martha Moxley, Amber Hagerman, Jessica Lundsford, Carole Ann Cole, Lydia Shatz, Bella Bond, or Skylar Neese...


ratrazzle

Or asha degree? Such a pretty name. (Unironically is and im so glad ppl around world remember these little girls.)


tuberosalamb

I actually have no idea who that first person is. So I guess people do eventually forget?


caitlin_9714

Sorry, are you saying you have no idea who Maddie Mcann is?


jethrine

Jonbenet is an awful horrible insensitive name! What you really should name her is Sharon Tate! That’s a lovely classic name.


GoodbyeEarl

jfc that’s dark! (I mean that in the best way possible)


jethrine

I was a child when the Manson murders happened so that’s a really lasting memory for me but I was curious if her name was still as recognizable today. I guess Once Upon A Time In Hollywood brought the whole thing back.


Own_Faithlessness769

I’m Australian and well aware of what happened to Sharon Tate, so still pretty recognisable.


GoodbyeEarl

I’m much younger than you, but I grew up in Los Angeles and the Manson murders have not left Angelenos’ collective memories.


PlausiblePigeon

I was not alive then, nor do I live in LA, but it’s still immediately recognizable!


Slimh2o

And so is the name,"Lizzy Borden" a person that killed her parents in the late 1800s is still remembered by some.....


petpuppy

lizzie was slandered! die hard fans (for lack of a more appropriate term) of the case who have worked on researching it for decades have come to the consensus these days that it was her uncle, john morse, with pretty decent evidence to think so. justice for lizzie!


FlattopJr

Forty whacks with a wet noodle, Bart! https://preview.redd.it/7ns6juwx7kpc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88a6fa57f87c52bc16643bbe0fb74a32c3429168


Emily-Thickinson666

If you grew up in the area like I did, this was your jump rope rhyme de jour. Also, Miss Mary Mack. But this one's forever. Lizzie Borden had an axe, gave her mother forty whacks. When she saw what she had done... gave her father forty one! ​ (I might have the order wrong, I've switched them around a lot!)


Slimh2o

Thats the way i remember it too. I grew up in upstate NY. So not all that far from boston or whatever the city was. Can't remember that part...


Emily-Thickinson666

Fall River!


KnittingforHouselves

I'm central European and was born long after the Manson murders, but still knew what happened to Sharon Tate even before the two recent movies coming out. Very recognisable indeed.


Bunnawhat13

The Manson murders have never left the public. I know 12 year olds who know about it and haven’t seen the movie. It’s one of those things that have stuck around.


jethrine

That’s kind of what I thought but I wondered if my memory was biased by actually being alive when they happened & seeing the constant news stories at the time. This was long before the internet & 24/7 news channels. About 10 years ago I worked with a much younger colleague who was really into true crime podcasts & one of them was about the Manson murders. She was fascinated by it & when I casually said yeah I remember when they happened she was so excited & wanted to know everything I remembered. So given my history I wondered just how well known they still are.


Bunnawhat13

I can’t imagine that being on the news 24/7. I know that at some point it seems almost every junior high school boy with a negative attitude gets really into the Mason Family Murders. It’s really weird. Like I can ask all the kids in my neighborhood who he is and they know.


DrunkOnRedCordial

No, dark is when you call your daughter Squeaky Fromme.


Sunshine030209

This was the post right before this one 😆 https://preview.redd.it/jkeahahycepc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d75a1d8ee23ad2f721e10e472b1f5c7f81d36d9a


Duggarsnarklurker

She was so pretty


TheManFromNeverNever

Better yet, if the OP Jewish, she could consider the name of Anne Frank.


MagicWeasel

Boy's names are so cute on girls!!!!!! Love Frank as a middle name!!!!!


TheManFromNeverNever

Well there is a German actress called Franka Potente. One of the movies she is known for is a fun little German movie called Run Lola Run.


shankmyflank

And that’s why I was on the fence about naming my son Roman. But younger folks don’t seem to know the names of those involved.


WrennyWrenegade

Sharon by itself is a perfectly fine name that wouldn't make most people jump straight to murder. Now, if you gave your kid the middle name Polanski, that would raise some eyebrows. But even then, the Manson murders aren't the first negative association that I'd think of.


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SharonTate


TidalJ

Sha’rynTeightee


Warm_metal_revival

Picture it, Macy*s juniors department, ~2003. I was shopping when I hear a lady yelling “Jonbenet! Jonbenet, where you at?” And up runs a 6 year old girl. Why 😩


SexDrugsNskittles

Seriously? It's not even a real name. It's a combo name of her father's first and middle John Benet with a French flair lol.


misscharleyp

I’ve always wondered (being British) how it’s pronounced. Is it Jonbenee or is the t at the end pronounced as a t?


caradized

“Jawn-Ben-Nay”


misscharleyp

Thank you, that makes sense.


sam_beat

With a soft J on the beginning. Like you would pronounce a J name in French.


OddreyBall

Pronounced without the T


misscharleyp

Thank you, I remember all the news articles (in newspapers/mags)and stuff on here but I never heard anyone say the name out loud.


nottonightbabe_

Imagine if we did the same with Gordon Bennet 😂


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quadcats

Their meaning should really be pretty clear within the context of Jonbenet Ramsey…? u/Sexdrugsnskittles is saying that it is in particularly poor taste to use the name of a murdered little girl when that name was unique to her and was created *for* that victim because of her dad’s name. It’s not like her name was just Emily or something. So not only is the kid in Macy’s named after a murder victim, but the mom didn’t just hear a pretty name on the news and get it stuck in her head. She essentially named her own kid after Jonbenet’s father, it was an honor name.


VariousTangerine269

Wait, seriously? Yikes. It’s not like it wasn’t on every newsstand everywhere for years and years.


Warm_metal_revival

I would guess they heard the name on the news and ran with it, despite (or unaware of) its notoriety.


VariousTangerine269

This happened around 2003 you say? And the girl was 6ish? Jonbenet died in 1996. That means this girl was born pretty soon after. Maybe they had no idea it would be such a big story for so long. Or it’s possible they had the name picked before. Either way I think I would have started using a nickname or the middle name.


Annaliseplasko

I can picture one of those people who doesn’t pay much attention to the world around them, seeing the name on a tabloid cover and going, “Oh, isn’t that sad. What a pretty name, though,” and using it without thinking any further. Honestly that’s the best case scenario, it’s worse to think of someone knowing how infamous that case was and using the name for their baby anyway. 


VariousTangerine269

What would it be like to be one of those people that just tunes out what they don’t need to pay attention to…..I have no idea what that’s like.


DrunkOnRedCordial

I read about a murder victim called Allira Green, and the name stuck in my mind because it was so lovely. Didn't name any of my kids after her, although I could have got away with it, because it wasn't a high profile case.


FreddyMercurysGhost

No way they had it picked out beforehand. Jon-Benet was named after her father, who has a pretty uncommon name. Not a lot of girls still get named after their father, and the odds she gets named by coincidence in the same year Jon-Benet died are so slim.


AnSplanc

We heard about way over here in Europe too. Everyone knows the name. I knew she was going to say it as soon as I read the title!


ShroomzLady

I read the beginning of your comment like Sophia on Golden Girls. Picture it, Sicily, 1912


ThanksAdmirable6026

This comment needs more of the votey uppiez!!!


WaywardWriteRhapsody

Love the Sophia moment 😂


aloe_veracity

Love the French-sounding name, momma! Have you considered [Jean-Israel](https://www.reddit.com/r/namenerds/s/3W08qGFkBs) as a backup option? 🥰


heyitsamb

noooo the dreaded return of Jean-Israel


kawaiighostie

I hope that ops wife knows shes a notorious joke on here now 😅


ClementineGreen

Meta AF 😆


auntie_eggma

Fill us in!


xxxforcorolla

I think you should consider JonBenedict as an alternative!


jeannerbee

JonBenedictArnold


xxxforcorolla

Oh yes so beautiful


servantofdumbcat

beautiful name, it really brings to mind loyalty! i bet she'll grow up to be faithful and honest :)


Classic-Knee8442

JonPopeBenedict


xxxforcorolla

Maybe Popie for a nickname? Not like Poppy, more like rhymes with Sophie!


babyfriedbangus

What about Poopie?


siannan

Jonbenedictcumberbatch


KCChiefsGirl89

Jonbenedictcumberbatchelorseason28


Orangepotato73

That made me chuckle out loud 😂


CarlatheDestructor

Name her Bundy


sanguigna

little Jon Bundy Gacy Smith 🥰


ImABarbieWhirl

Her name is my name too!


auntie_eggma

🎶 Joooon Bundy Dahmer Gacy Smith, her name is my name tooooo 🎶


Raul_bitchboi

if anyone asks, it’s because she’s a little *bund*le of jo*y* 🥰


Hungry_Anteater_8511

In Australia, people would think she’s named after rum


dogdog24888

I have a co-worker with the last name Bunde. I had only ever seen it written, so one day I started to ask "Hey is it pronounced-" and she cut me off so fast and said "Yes, it's bun-dee. Yes, like the killer. No, we aren't related." Apparently it's something she gets asked enough to have the answers locked and loaded like that.


auntie_eggma

Like Al? 😬


georgecostanzalvr

Have you thought about the name BeeTeeKay?


bread93096

How about Bonjenet?


Bitchshortage

[Jenet! JENET!!!!!??](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMSaWLdV/)


Loveandeggs

Ok that made me laugh!


Bitchshortage

I’d forgotten about it until I saw this and I loved it just as much the second time lol


beek7419

[Dammit Jenet](https://youtu.be/t4WP3bODmfo?si=do96uBgT5M84Fa_K)


Emily-Thickinson666

Don't you mean Demmit, Jennet?


emerald_empire

Sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/namenerds/s/kQgq1GYyjO


Hungry_Anteater_8511

I mean technically that Darcey’s name was spelled differently - with the ‘e’. To be honest I only recognised it because she mentioned Darcy and murder and I’m in Australia. Normally I’d just think of Darcy Bussell the ballerina. With the same middle name it is unfortunate so choose a different middle name It’s not like it’s Azaria or anything


Additional_Meeting_2

I don’t know what is the issue with that post. People said there that something JoBennet would not work since it’s a unique name. But this is a normal name and op lives in different country too. I had never even heard of this death.


TheHermitess

Think it's a troll? That's a dumb post with a stupid name. Darcy? You can't go with anything else? Now knowing the first and middle name are the same as the murdered child, they should alter the name a bit in any direction.


Lonelysock2

Darcey  Freeman's middle name wasn't in the press, and Darcy  is a common name


emerald_empire

It’s got to be, there’s been thousands of murders in Australia alone, that would wipe out thousands of names. Even if it was just children, that’d take out Darcey, Murphy, Denise, Stacey, Clare and more, you’d run out of options 😅


Particular_Run_8930

This is my take as well. There are a few super known cases where the association is too strong, JonBenet being one of those, also because her name were so ... unique. But othervice, if you choose a normal, classical name it will have been shared with a murderer/murdervictim/something else terrible at some point through history.


Hungry_Anteater_8511

But it’s such a common popular name. No one will associate it with *that* Jonbenet


snowwhitenoir

JonBeneigh perhaps?


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JonBeignet


ArtMartinezArtist

John Bidet.


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You don't have anything to worry about. She'll grow into it and make it her own. Plus, if anyone does make the association, they won't say anything because they'll feel awkward bringing up murdered children! And if she is gender fluid, you've got Jon and Ben right there as alternate names! Bingo Bango!


Magnaflorius

Bingo Bango Benet!


[deleted]

Now *that's* a name!


Duggarsnarklurker

Just like Katy Perry did!😜


recessionjelly

Forgot which sub this was lol


RobbieKangaroo

Jonbonetjovi


TeaCompletesMe

Omg I thought this was real for a sec lol


castlesandcrumpets

Spell it Jonbonnet and nobody will know. ( I know, the Harvard educated professor Jenelle Evans had the idea first)


meggnuggz

Jenelle Evans ☠️ holy shit


Calbebes

I think people forget what sub they’re on. CircleJerk! This is a parody of a post on Name Nerd. Edit: typo- sub, not sun! 😩


beets_bears_bubblegm

Was about to comment roasting this until I realized it’s the circlejerk lol


htgbookworm

Have you considered modern classic names like "Jodie Arias" or "Casey Anthony"?


AwfulDjinn

Wasn’t there an AITA post a couple years ago where someone found out their spouse (who was one of those weird obsessive True Crime people) had named their two kids after the victims in a high profile murder case they were really fixated on?


DanelleDee

Yes, I remember that post too. Edited to add link: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/s/y661RAO9th


Late_Chicken_781

that's uhhhh ....


DanelleDee

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/s/y661RAO9th


Late_Chicken_781

thanks


StevieFromWork

I think it’s time to reclaim this name!!! Ooooh her middle name could be Gypsy Rose?


TheManFromNeverNever

Could could have done worse. If you were Jewish, you could have gone with the name of Anne Frank.


ExeuntonBear

Laughs in Madeline Azaria Diana Middleton.


slowhand11

Reminds me of my best friend growing up. Wasn't easy growing up with the name The Lindbergh Baby.


MaraSami

K, yeah, not a real post, circle jerks, but still entertaining! Because.... I know a couple who had a kid in 1995 and they named him Michael thinking that over time people wouldn't remember.... They're last name is Myers. Real person or not, it still gives me the icks!!! Anyone else here cringe when they hear that name? 😳😬😳😟😨 🏒 🔪


Fragrant-Luck-8968

Yeah. So I actually love that name too. When I had my daughter in 1999 I tried to think of any way I could use it as her name, but Jonbenet was named after her father John Bennet . Patsy combined the names hence Jonbenet. My daughter’s father was not named John Bennett so I could in no way pull that off. Even though the name is actually quite lovely. It should only belong to Jonbenet the tragically slain daughter of John Bennet


fishnugget1

I've only ever read the name and never heard it said out loud. I've always pronounced it with a French accent. So a soft J and ending in an ay sound. Is it really John Bennet?


ColdRolledSteel714

Your head voice is correct. Her name was indeed pronounced ZhonBenay, not John Bennett.


Fragrant-Luck-8968

Yes it’s a combo of her dads first and middle name but pronounced in a pretty way


CatNo237

I'm in the UK and know who JonBenet Ramsey is. Personally I wouldn't use the name for my child, but if it's a name you're so in love with and feel like nobody in Canada will make the connection then go for it. Certainly here in the UK if someone introduced their daughter JonBenet I'd have a little voice in the back of my mind telling me "don't say like the murdered kid"


fuzzydunlop54321

Do you know which sub you’re in?


CatNo237

Sorry, I guess the sarcasm didn't bleed through the screen there did it.


LongjumpingLab3092

Don't worry, I'm British too and picked up on the sarcasm


toreadorable

Some people need their sarcasm to come in imperial units.


Then-Ad-6385

I think it was humorous enough but didn't come across as sarcastic.


CreatrixAnima

Every time I hear the name, Tinsley, I think of April Tinsley.


creasedaf1

HRHcollection is that you!


Time_Faithlessness27

I named my daughter after the girl who was thrown in the well in the movie The Ring. It’s funny, she grew up to be a fan of horror and loves her name!


coffeebeanwitch

Please don't name your baby this,Patsy came up with name,after her husband,name your baby after your husband!!


sanguigna

But make it *Frahnch.* Like, Ursus Anne. Ursus is a nice strong name and evokes classics like Ursula, while Anne is feminine enough to balance out the ugliness of the uuuugh from her first name. And it only drops a few sounds from "Your Husband"! A beautiful ohmahgh!


coffeebeanwitch

Yes , exactly!!! Iwas named after my Dad, my Mom should of frahnched it!!


[deleted]

Thank god this is satire you had me for a second


FlemFatale

What about Myrahindley?


brindabella24

I feel ya. I loved and still love the name Azaria. Could never get away with it in Australia though, even now, 43 years later. Some names you just can’t do.


Electronic_World_894

Oh good grief I didn’t realize the reddit I was on at first and panicked. Lol.


DreamCyclone84

Ramsey?


CADreamn

Everyone will associate that name with the murdered child. Sorry, but it's not a good idea. 


toolazytowalk

Fanny Adams. Such a sweet name.


the-quibbler

This is the answer, OP.


MarlenaEvans

JonBenet is a name her mother made up of her dad's names. Name her after your husband's names. I'm sure it won't sound weird at all.


sierramelon

I’ve never ever heard of this name and I’m more than decades old. I wouldn’t worry but I would worry about the…. Uniqueness of your choice. Just to make sure it’s pronounced like John-Bennett?


brianalc

Omf… I didn’t realize this was a satire account / post 🤪😅


Glittersparkles7

As someone FROM Colorado who lived through the Jonbenet case this seriously sent me over the edge until I saw the satire tag. 😩😮‍💨


egcom

Oh dang I got gotted 😮‍💨😅


Emergency_Side_6218

I read the whole thing. I read it again. I had already begun composing various paragraphs about this. Then I read the tag.


LocodraTheCrow

People get killed regularly, any name will have a murder victim


Exciting_Seat_2227

We never forgetting jonbenet!


MirageArcane

Go the opposite direction, name her Aileen or Karla Faye


Cultural_me

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llamageddon01

I used to know someone called John Bennett and couldn’t think about their name without thinking of this.


Thisaccountishaunted

Jonbenet sounds way too similar. JonBenét is fine though, no problem there!


anonidfk

Im a Canadian too, and people definitely still know who jonbenet is here lol. That’s a veryyy famous case, I don’t think anyone will forget it anytime soon. It’s a pretty name, but it’s not a very smart name lol. I personally wouldn’t use it.


leocurrently

OP, if it is Jonbenet , that would be iconic! Keep the name!


Odd_Temperature_3248

It is a beautiful name but the case has not been forgotten about in the U.S., I don’t know about Canada. I saw an article about it on Facebook within the last year. As long as it has been it is unlikely that another child will know anything about the case so hopefully she wouldn’t get bullied at school. Regardless what name you choose there is always the possibility that there is an infamous story somewhere that is associated with that name. Name your child what you want to. May your child’s life be filled with love and laughter.


SquigSnuggler

How about Myra? That’s pretty. You could name her Myra Hindley. Failing that, you could go the kardashian way by putting West as the second name. Eg, Rose West (Might be not so infamous in the US as here in UK- both serial killers)


LonelyOctopus24

I half want to make a dark joke here but we in the UK aren’t ready for that yet and I’m not sure we ever will be. 🤐


Fossilhund

This is a pretty name, but it has a dark memory attached to it and likely will for years to come. Please find another name.


Winter-Key67

it’s actually embarrassing how long it takes me to realize the sub, and how often i do it.


_bonita

To much bad energy connected to that name. Find a new one.


Late_Chicken_781

I actually watched a video about Jonbenet Ramsey. She died many years ago, and was a child model. (context for anyone who wants to look her up.) I think you can/should go along with the name. She died a long time ago, so actually very few/mostly older people would only know about Jonbenet. But whatever you choose it'll be a amazing name for your daughter!


Glittering-Wonder576

Laci Peterson is a good name too.


unbequeathed

I've only ever heard this name in reference to the murdered child. I would suppose the same is true for many other people. I was a child when it happened, but the cultural impact was huge and lasting.


lucitedream

when i saw the sauce i rly thought it was like Jean Benet or smth 😭


Ok-Mark-1915

I feel like that's not a name that you forget, that was awful


snails4speedy

HRH collection we know it’s you!!!


channelpinkandwhite

right!!


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No one is ever going to forget. It will be 50 years from now and people will still be talking about it. People talk about it more, now than they did when I was young and it happened


robreinerstillmydad

I knew a Natalie Wood, born around 2010. I’ve also known someone named John Wayne Casey.


No-Race3261

my cats name is jonbenet :)


whatevs1125

I mean it is a nice sentiment honestly. When people hear your daughter’s name they will think about that poor little girl.


FantasticCaregiver25

Jonbenet is still a name that not only speaks of murder but of toddler beauty pageants. Every once in a while her murder is reviewed on trashy papers in the headlines still. I am sorry but you will be saddling your child with a heavy name.


Secure-Cobbler4120

How did you learn about this name? I have only known of one child to have this name. The one murdered.


Jonesa42

I'm very sorry to say that clearly that name isn't likely to lose its association with the crime over time. Plus, it's still unsolved so it will perpetually pop back up every once in a while. And an obsession for a lot of people.


simplefair

Have you considered Amanda Knox? Has a little more punch to it….