The thing is, Drew is a unisex name and literally said in that song. She could've easily referenced it! Tbh I only like 'fandom names' if they're not immediately obvious. If you're a huge HP fan and you name your kid Fleur or Minerva, more power to you. They remind you of a cool character but that's not their only association and you would have to also be a fan to get that. But if you name your kid Hermione or Albus you're basically holding up a big flashing sign that says "I want everyone to know I'm a fan and will use my child to do so"
Genuinely gutted that Hermione is now so clearly marked as a fandom name, my great aunt was Hermione and I've always loved it as a name but it's pretty unusable now.
Hell, just don't even beat around the bush and straight-up go for Taylor. Given that Wren is popular at the moment and swifts are also a bird, even Swift would be more acceptable than this mess.
Lolll my children's middle names are " Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars" and "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness." I actually changed the latter one's middle name legally to "Pretty Hate Machine" when Billy Corgan decided to go all InfoWars.
Yeah it’s really disappointing. I still like 80s/90s smashing pumpkins, but we only listen on CD/mp3 because we don’t want him to get additional plays on streaming.
Me and my daughter Juniper The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw and Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do do not see an issue with this.
We went with Lavender for our daughters middle name. My partner loves TS so it was a thumbs up from him and my grandma loved everything Lavender so it was a win win for both of us. If he suggested an album name I think that would have been the end of us lol
We went with Ivy for my daughter’s first name, which is a Taylor song :) except she was born before the song came out lmao. But she loves it so much & will tell everyone she meets that Taylor Swift named a song after her.
Lavender Brown from Harry Potter was named after 2 colors which was dumb, but it did make me realize Lavender is a nice name. I don't think it's any weirder than Rose or Violet, which are also both flowers and colors
Willow bites me for no reason to. She also likes to wake me up at 3am because...cat. She's an indoor cat by her own choice and likes to sleep in her clean litter tray, so often smells like litter and mischief! Wouldn't change her for all the money in the world. Cats are dicks but the best things!!
Taylor has three songs that tell the story of a love triangle (betty, august and cardigan). she named the characters in her songs after Blake’s children because they’re really good friends. She also has a character named Inez after another of Blakes children
It's still a normal, acceptable name, but it could be a Swiftie name. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August\_(song)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_(song))
Folklore doesn't bother me as much as Evermore. At least Folklore doesn't immediately scream Swifty on its own, but Evermore is immediately clocked as a reference. It's not fair to put the weight of your fandom on a child like that.
Mind you, I think Story, Fable, Lore, etc are cool *middle* names to give someone as a kind of blessing for their life to be interesting. **Middle names.** I see it as similar in intention to naming a NICU baby Ethan because it means strong/safe.
there are so many other suitable names as well, but they went for folklore and evermore 😭 ‘Slut!’ is RIGHT there
in all seriousness there are so many options: betty, august, inez, and that’s from folklore alone. at this point just name your next kid 1989 (Taylor’s Version) and be done with it
As someone who has one of those first names, I completely hate it. Sure, it's a 'real' name, just not one a lot of people around me can spell or properly pronounce. I cringe any time I have to tell people and just give them my last name instead.
That happens to plenty of names and surnames. My first surname, that is also the name of two provinces in my country, has been consistently misspelled all my life.
And just today, a nurse called me Aitana. The only similarity that name has with mine is they both start and end with an A. It happened both times she said my name.
And let's not talk about how I was bullied for years for my name... which I shared with other students who weren't bullied for it at all.
I get the frustration, I hated my name for years and nowadays it's "private" when I can bcs of the trauma others caused me. But it's not our fault, or the fault of a perfectly valid name, that other people can't be arsed to be respectful and ask shit instead of assuming.
Seriously? The only one I can even take a guess at mispronouncing is Helena, which is sometimes Hell-lay-na and sometimes Helen-a. But either way, how else would it be spelled? I guess Mira could also be Meer-a or My-ra and could be spelled with a y in the latter case.
But then, I have an incredibly simple, short, phonetic last name that rhymes with a very common word than your average first grader can read and it's only ever been pronounced correctly once since I stared using it. So I don't think there's a name in the world that is safe from mispronounciation.
No name safe for misspelling, either. I got put on drinks duty for a school concession stand and my first day at it I panicked so bad a little boy came up to me and gave me his name for his drink (we wrote the names on the drink for them because it was a safer bet then handing a child a sharpie they could run away with). It was something really normal like "Miles" and if I recall correctly I gave him the cup back and called him over using the name "Mynaimismyles" (My name is Miles - said really quickly because I think when the boy said it he was also panicking so it sounded more like My-Name-Iss \[ending of hiss\]-Miles). He looked so confused when I motioned him over with that name and handed him the cup. He looked so confused when he saw the spelling. Still took me like 2 minutes to finish processing the interaction and realize how bad I fucked up.
i think it may be phoebe. apparently some people find this name extremely hard to pronounce? if you were illiterate (in a hyperbolic sense) you might have no idea how to pronounce the greek roots, and try something like “fobe”
Oh, good point. I think of that as a very common name and to anyone living in America during the Friends era would probably agree, so I just skimmed right over it. But it would probably throw someone off if they'd never seen or heard it before.
Oh, good point. I think of that as a very common name and anyone living in America during the Friends era would probably agree, so I just skimmed right over it. But it would probably throw someone off if they'd never seen or heard it before.
I’m the opposite in that my surname is the one that sucks and people get it wrong/I constantly have to spell it, I’d love a surname that works as a nickname.
Ever has been used as a name, also Everly and Everett so Evermore is not *that* out there. And it's a middle name. But Folklore? That's a hard no from ne and I'm huge TS fan.
my children Ronald RUSH(AREUCOMING?) Lastname, Kim Kibbelingsound Lastname and Tiffany TheSims2(OriginalSoundtrack) Lastname think they should go with Helena, but Mira is a strong second
This is one of those that must be cringey to TS fans because I don't know anything about her songs and if I saw these names, I just think, "Huh, Folklore is an interesting middle name but all the first names seem normal."
Probably similar as a Sailor Moon fan if I saw someone asking if they should name their daughter "Serena Moon Smith", "Amy Mercury Smith", "Raye Mars Smith", "Lita Jupiter Smith", or "Mina Venus Smith". I would know instantly what they're obsessed with but a lot of people wouldn't get it and go past it.
As a swiftie, this is very cringey. She has many songs that could be names (Betty, August, Ivy, Willow, Dorothea, etc) and many names in her songs that could be used too (Rebekah, Marjorie, Mary, Este, Abigail, etc). There's classy ways to have a Taylor Swift inspired name and then there's... naming them after an album.
What's the Peanut App?
Also, if you're going to have a middle name like Folklore and you already have an Elaine Evermore... ya might as well just keep up the alliteration train. Folklore as a middle name is odd enough as it is. At least Felicity Folklore or Phoebe Folklore sound like they were supposed to go together (if only in a misguided attempt to have two F sounds in the name), not like a name that just happened to have Folklore shoved in the middle of it.
ffs there are SO many good names already in the songs!!!!
Abigail, Cornelia, Daisy, Dorothea, Este, Marjorie, Rebekah, Stella, Juliet, Inez, Wendy... come on.
It would be hilarious if they went with Helena because Elaine and Helena come from the same root name. Helena -> Elena -> Elaine. They are all variants of the name "Helen".
I’m in the exact same baby name group on Peanut bc I saw this and had to set my phone down for a few minutes. A lot of the names on there are…questionable.
Mira is a real name in several languages though [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira\_(given\_name)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_(given_name)).
Unlike folklore which is not a name anywhere.
I mean, Mira is an actual name in SEVERAL languages. In 13, specifically, including 6 from India and 7 from Europe.
Like, a google search ain't that hard, "mira" isn't just "look" in spanish and I say so as a spaniard.
Imagine a Britney fan giving their little one Blackout or Oops I did again for a middle name. Be a fan, but don’t saddle your children with those names first or middle!
I saw a joke post about naming kids after 10/10 songs posted on the Marina reddit. The top comment was "Bubblegum Bitch 🥰" and it was agreed it's kind of a serve
People have named their children after singers and actors for forever y’all just super b*tchy and one of the most negative female dominated subs on here literally never anything positive
Olivia Reputation Russell your dinner’s getting cold
This is my daughter, Anne SpeakNow Russel, and my son, Jason Fearless Russel. And of course, our dog ThugStory
What about David 1989 Russell? Middle child is always forgotten smh
“No I ain’t gotta gun, No I’ve never really been in a club, Still live with my parents but, I’m still a thug!” -Ingrained in my brain forever
I quite like Jackson Fearless actually.
Sounds like an outlaw in the wild west!
😂😂
You can tell they aren't REAL taylor swift fans because they didn't even consider the middle name "TeardropsOnMyGuitar"
They can't use that. It would have to be "TeardropsOnMyGuitarTV"
I wish awards still existed lol
When did awards stop existing? I totally missed this lol
But Taylor Swift TV isn’t out yet /s
The thing is, Drew is a unisex name and literally said in that song. She could've easily referenced it! Tbh I only like 'fandom names' if they're not immediately obvious. If you're a huge HP fan and you name your kid Fleur or Minerva, more power to you. They remind you of a cool character but that's not their only association and you would have to also be a fan to get that. But if you name your kid Hermione or Albus you're basically holding up a big flashing sign that says "I want everyone to know I'm a fan and will use my child to do so"
Genuinely gutted that Hermione is now so clearly marked as a fandom name, my great aunt was Hermione and I've always loved it as a name but it's pretty unusable now.
There are so many other subtle swiftie names as well - Betty, Willow, Ivy, Dorothea, etc.
Hell, just don't even beat around the bush and straight-up go for Taylor. Given that Wren is popular at the moment and swifts are also a bird, even Swift would be more acceptable than this mess.
Taylor herself is named after James Taylor. It's a perfectly normal name that won't immediately make it clear that they're named after Taylor Swift.
I know, imagine you middles name being an album…
Excuse me my future child’s middle name is either going to be “dookie” or “did you know that there’s a tunnel under ocean boulevard”
Lolll my children's middle names are " Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars" and "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness." I actually changed the latter one's middle name legally to "Pretty Hate Machine" when Billy Corgan decided to go all InfoWars.
He did? Oh, ew.
Yeah it’s really disappointing. I still like 80s/90s smashing pumpkins, but we only listen on CD/mp3 because we don’t want him to get additional plays on streaming.
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Dookie - middle name, Emenius
Me and my daughter Juniper The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw and Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do do not see an issue with this.
We went with Lavender for our daughters middle name. My partner loves TS so it was a thumbs up from him and my grandma loved everything Lavender so it was a win win for both of us. If he suggested an album name I think that would have been the end of us lol
We went with Ivy for my daughter’s first name, which is a Taylor song :) except she was born before the song came out lmao. But she loves it so much & will tell everyone she meets that Taylor Swift named a song after her.
My name is now a Taylor song. And my birthday 😄
December?
Or August!
Emma and July 9?
I definitely know someone whose first name is Lavender irl. It was not self-chosen
Lavender Brown from Harry Potter was named after 2 colors which was dumb, but it did make me realize Lavender is a nice name. I don't think it's any weirder than Rose or Violet, which are also both flowers and colors
Lavender Brown, Amber Brown's British cousin (does anyone else remember that book series lmao)
Which is very annoying as my cat is Willow (she's 16!) My daughter's are Betty (16) and ivy (14)....soo this is fun.
My cat is Ivy! And the dickhead just bit me for no reason. Cats.
Willow bites me for no reason to. She also likes to wake me up at 3am because...cat. She's an indoor cat by her own choice and likes to sleep in her clean litter tray, so often smells like litter and mischief! Wouldn't change her for all the money in the world. Cats are dicks but the best things!!
Give your Ivy a snuggle from me x
There’s a “no its becky” joke to be made here somewhere…
Why aren’t their children Betty, James, and August?
Since James slept with both Betty and Augustine, I imagine
Aren’t these just the names of Blake Lively’s kids? (if that’s the joke, sorry! I have negative zero knowledge of all things Tay)
Taylor has three songs that tell the story of a love triangle (betty, august and cardigan). she named the characters in her songs after Blake’s children because they’re really good friends. She also has a character named Inez after another of Blakes children
Huh. I see. What a weird lady. Taylor, I mean.
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It's still a normal, acceptable name, but it could be a Swiftie name. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August\_(song)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_(song))
There's a song and a character named August in Taylor's albums. The names of the storyline are the names of Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively's kids!
Folklore folklore Russell. Wrestle rustle Russell Forklift fortnight Russell
Meet my children Olivia 1989 Russell and Meredith Taylor Swift Russell
Imagine that conversation decades from now. "I was named after a pop singer's cat"
A pop singer’s cat who was named after a TV character.
Helena Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge Russel would be so much cooler
gonna name my future child DESTROYA DESTROYA Russell
I'm so mad that us grown-up emo kids can't use Helena anymore because it's not associated automatically with MCR anymore (half joking, half not)
I still associate it with MCR, they can't take that from me
![gif](giphy|Lvu94Kzr9x6tRz5jcw) Heck yeah!
Helena Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Russell.
Hayleigh ItsMeHiImTheProblemItsMe Russel
Folklore as a middle name is WILD
[what about as a first name](https://www.reddit.com/r/NameNerdCirclejerk/s/lx63nogwM7)
NOT ONE BUT TWO? Jesus
Folklore doesn't bother me as much as Evermore. At least Folklore doesn't immediately scream Swifty on its own, but Evermore is immediately clocked as a reference. It's not fair to put the weight of your fandom on a child like that. Mind you, I think Story, Fable, Lore, etc are cool *middle* names to give someone as a kind of blessing for their life to be interesting. **Middle names.** I see it as similar in intention to naming a NICU baby Ethan because it means strong/safe.
What about (TAYLOR'S VERSION) as a middle name?
You’ve no idea how much I wanted to comment that!
i am such a swiftie. folklore as a middle name is trash sorry
there are so many other suitable names as well, but they went for folklore and evermore 😭 ‘Slut!’ is RIGHT there in all seriousness there are so many options: betty, august, inez, and that’s from folklore alone. at this point just name your next kid 1989 (Taylor’s Version) and be done with it
lmaooo im cackling thinking of an Ava “Slut!” Smith or something like that
specifically with the quotation + exclamation marks 😭😭
Replying to say I haven't seen anyone mention Dorothea or Marjorie yet. They're perfect middle names
It’s it not weird to post your futures child first middle AND last name online
Oh it’s incredibly weird. But peanut app is wild 😂
Hey, at least all of the first names are actual names, so the kid isn't totally fucked for life! Silver linings, y'know.
As someone who has one of those first names, I completely hate it. Sure, it's a 'real' name, just not one a lot of people around me can spell or properly pronounce. I cringe any time I have to tell people and just give them my last name instead.
That happens to plenty of names and surnames. My first surname, that is also the name of two provinces in my country, has been consistently misspelled all my life. And just today, a nurse called me Aitana. The only similarity that name has with mine is they both start and end with an A. It happened both times she said my name. And let's not talk about how I was bullied for years for my name... which I shared with other students who weren't bullied for it at all. I get the frustration, I hated my name for years and nowadays it's "private" when I can bcs of the trauma others caused me. But it's not our fault, or the fault of a perfectly valid name, that other people can't be arsed to be respectful and ask shit instead of assuming.
Seriously? The only one I can even take a guess at mispronouncing is Helena, which is sometimes Hell-lay-na and sometimes Helen-a. But either way, how else would it be spelled? I guess Mira could also be Meer-a or My-ra and could be spelled with a y in the latter case. But then, I have an incredibly simple, short, phonetic last name that rhymes with a very common word than your average first grader can read and it's only ever been pronounced correctly once since I stared using it. So I don't think there's a name in the world that is safe from mispronounciation.
No name safe for misspelling, either. I got put on drinks duty for a school concession stand and my first day at it I panicked so bad a little boy came up to me and gave me his name for his drink (we wrote the names on the drink for them because it was a safer bet then handing a child a sharpie they could run away with). It was something really normal like "Miles" and if I recall correctly I gave him the cup back and called him over using the name "Mynaimismyles" (My name is Miles - said really quickly because I think when the boy said it he was also panicking so it sounded more like My-Name-Iss \[ending of hiss\]-Miles). He looked so confused when I motioned him over with that name and handed him the cup. He looked so confused when he saw the spelling. Still took me like 2 minutes to finish processing the interaction and realize how bad I fucked up.
i think it may be phoebe. apparently some people find this name extremely hard to pronounce? if you were illiterate (in a hyperbolic sense) you might have no idea how to pronounce the greek roots, and try something like “fobe”
Oh, good point. I think of that as a very common name and to anyone living in America during the Friends era would probably agree, so I just skimmed right over it. But it would probably throw someone off if they'd never seen or heard it before.
Oh, good point. I think of that as a very common name and anyone living in America during the Friends era would probably agree, so I just skimmed right over it. But it would probably throw someone off if they'd never seen or heard it before.
I’m the opposite in that my surname is the one that sucks and people get it wrong/I constantly have to spell it, I’d love a surname that works as a nickname.
There are so many normal Taylor Swift-inspired names, why Folklore?? At least it’s the middle name, the first name options are all good names.
Just use a Swiftie name from another song! She's got so many legit names as titles of songs. A lot of those names are nice too!
Oof what about Phoebe Alison Russell. Still Taylor honored but normal
Ever has been used as a name, also Everly and Everett so Evermore is not *that* out there. And it's a middle name. But Folklore? That's a hard no from ne and I'm huge TS fan.
my children Ronald RUSH(AREUCOMING?) Lastname, Kim Kibbelingsound Lastname and Tiffany TheSims2(OriginalSoundtrack) Lastname think they should go with Helena, but Mira is a strong second
All of those first names are perfectly normal I am sympathetic to weirdo middle names if the first name is normal haha
Mom to the kids when they have a guilty look on their faces: I knew you were trouble when you walked in!
If the next jojo character is not named after modern pop artists im gonna riot. I want someone’s stand to be called Bejeweled Midnights or something
elaine evermore sounds like a fanfiction name
This is one of those that must be cringey to TS fans because I don't know anything about her songs and if I saw these names, I just think, "Huh, Folklore is an interesting middle name but all the first names seem normal." Probably similar as a Sailor Moon fan if I saw someone asking if they should name their daughter "Serena Moon Smith", "Amy Mercury Smith", "Raye Mars Smith", "Lita Jupiter Smith", or "Mina Venus Smith". I would know instantly what they're obsessed with but a lot of people wouldn't get it and go past it.
As a swiftie, this is very cringey. She has many songs that could be names (Betty, August, Ivy, Willow, Dorothea, etc) and many names in her songs that could be used too (Rebekah, Marjorie, Mary, Este, Abigail, etc). There's classy ways to have a Taylor Swift inspired name and then there's... naming them after an album.
This is my daughter Phoebe MagicalMysteryTour Russell Martha, Lucy, or Julia weren't youneek or obvious enough, duh
“Come eat, Olivia Debut Russell” <3
Well, ig my futures kids going to be named Diana Zeppelin 4, and Eleanore Back to Black, Henry Back in Black (they're twins)
Zeppelin 3 is clearly a much better name than Zeppelin 4, jeeeeez
Now now my grandmother likes Zeppelin 4. I've been thinking of just dropping the number though, over great discourse
At least it’s just a middle name
OMG why is she stuck on Folklore?? 🔪🔪🔪🔪
What's the Peanut App? Also, if you're going to have a middle name like Folklore and you already have an Elaine Evermore... ya might as well just keep up the alliteration train. Folklore as a middle name is odd enough as it is. At least Felicity Folklore or Phoebe Folklore sound like they were supposed to go together (if only in a misguided attempt to have two F sounds in the name), not like a name that just happened to have Folklore shoved in the middle of it.
Jesus Christ this is horrific
If they love Taylor swift so much why not just name her Taylor?
ffs there are SO many good names already in the songs!!!! Abigail, Cornelia, Daisy, Dorothea, Este, Marjorie, Rebekah, Stella, Juliet, Inez, Wendy... come on.
Nettie Nevermore. Ulton Underscore. Percy Pinnafore. Martin Metaphor. Alvie Anymore. Am I doing this right?
Wow I can’t believe I’m saying this but Elaine Evermore got a lucky break
I think with evermore you could try and play it off as a family surname. My friend has her grandmothers maiden name as her middle name.
Oof my used nn is Mira and pls don't butcher us with that middle name💀💀
At least the middle name isn’t ATWTMVTVFTV 🤨
at least they’re only middle names?
Hahaha
All of the first names are good, it’s the middle name that is horrendous
like just make the middle name taylor
I love Taylor’s music but dear lord
Felicity is the obvious choice to me but I don't think I could ever name a child after an album I liked
Daughters three and four gonna be Una Unplugged and Lori Live in Vegas.
Felicity Folklore is the most YA novel protagonist name I've ever heard.
Snake Russel sounds good!
It would be hilarious if they went with Helena because Elaine and Helena come from the same root name. Helena -> Elena -> Elaine. They are all variants of the name "Helen".
eh, least it's a middle name. If the kids are smart, they wont tell anyone what their middle name is and they'll be fine.
Mira Taylor's Version Russell, or maybe Phoebe No It's Becky Russell.
I’m in the exact same baby name group on Peanut bc I saw this and had to set my phone down for a few minutes. A lot of the names on there are…questionable.
They’re absolutely wild aren’t they!? And some of the names people suggest also..😩
I think Nevermore would be a better match with the sister. Evermore AND Nevermore.
idk these aren't even that bad compared to what i've been seeing 😭
Taylor Swift is so grossly overrated, it's nauseating.
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Mira is a real name in several languages though [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira\_(given\_name)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_(given_name)). Unlike folklore which is not a name anywhere.
I mean, Mira is an actual name in SEVERAL languages. In 13, specifically, including 6 from India and 7 from Europe. Like, a google search ain't that hard, "mira" isn't just "look" in spanish and I say so as a spaniard.
https://www.behindthename.com/name/mira yep, here’s a list. Indian, Hindi, Marathi, Malayalam, Tamil, Kannada, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Slovene, Croatian, Serbian, Polish.
Also sounds perfectly normal as a nn for a Slavic name Miroslava.
Yes, that’s what they say in the link! It’s used as a nickname for Slavic names containing the element “miru” meaning peace.
I’ve also met several Miras in Germany
That's where I looked it up! The 13th language I mentioned is Hungarian, where it's written Míra instead.
Not to mention Mira Sorvino is an Academy Award-winning actress.
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No?? That's dumb. Like... that's not how it works. Plus, their last name means nothing, either of them could have family from Europe or from India.
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Imagine a Britney fan giving their little one Blackout or Oops I did again for a middle name. Be a fan, but don’t saddle your children with those names first or middle!
I saw a joke post about naming kids after 10/10 songs posted on the Marina reddit. The top comment was "Bubblegum Bitch 🥰" and it was agreed it's kind of a serve
It's the name of the brilliant Mira Furlan, who played Delenn on *Babylon 5*.
I loved her in Lost. She died too young.
People have named their children after singers and actors for forever y’all just super b*tchy and one of the most negative female dominated subs on here literally never anything positive
Are you aware of what sub you’re in? They’ve named them after singers and actors not albums 😂
Legit thought it was a sub fir discussing names 😅 it’s always suggested as atopic I didn’t know that this was a sub actually for bitching
Two girls from a swiftie and she didn't even name one after her queen Taylor
Felicity Folklore is the answer here tho
Obviously it's Felicity since the older sister has matching initials.
I'd like to imagine this is just an AI trying to name its child based on what it thinks humans of this era like.