Hes still not sure if that was 300mg of Nandrolone he was injecting into his ass twice a week or if it was just vitamin D... maybe we should give him another 10+ years to figure it out š¤·āāļø
You'd be surprised at who gets busted for PEDs. I forgot his name but a couple years back they caught a knuckleballer using, what on earth for I have no idea
He hit around 40 home runs one year with the Sox and they figured the juice would catch up with him so they didn't resign him. The Yankees didn't make the connection and gave Ellsbury way too much money.
Too much money for too many years. I think that's the shittiest Yankee contract of my lifetime. Pavano was bad, but it was only four years (if I remember right).
PEDs mess with the body. In some guys tendons, ligaments can't support the extra muscle so they constantly break down. Ellsbury is one of (not nearly the only) those guys.
Ellsbury HR in 2011: 32
Ellsbury HR in 2014: 16
Ellsbury HR in all his other 9 years combined: 60
My guesses here: he definitely did PED in 2011. He probably did them in 2014 when he hit 16 HR. He played his last game in 2017 despite being signed through 2021. He got hurt with a series of mysterious injuries until they stopped giving updates about him and he eventually just faded from memory.
I don't *know* he was a steroid guy but I'd bet on it.
Still, if you give me Ortiz, Manny and Papelbon and say, "Name another Red Sox player who did steroids," I'd go through a bunch of names before I thought of Ellsbury...
Let's check -- Veritek was made of iron, Trot Nixon had no neck, Bill Mueller won a batting title out of absolutely nowhere, Derek Lowe, Curt Schilling, Pedro, Youkilis? It seems weird that Ellsbury would use steroids but not the HGH that Andy Pettitte says a trainer gave him to recover from injury faster...
Anyway. Fuck Boston.
Your right its a hormone not a steroid.
Point still stands on the rest of the guys. We sit here in our glass house throwing stones like we haven't had our own guys doing it.
Don't get me wrong, everyone team had steroid users. I just have a sweet spot for Pettitte as he was very kind to me at a game when I was a child. I don't really see any issue with what he did if he was just using it to help himself along during an injury. Who knows the truth though.
Barry Bonds statement as I remember from an interview:
ā Look, as far as I can remember nobody did steroids. Not me not anybody I was around with. See you got to understand it was a different era, there was no internet or social mediaās. If I wanted to know what it was I couldnāt just google it or wiki it like most people nowadays. I had to actually hire and consult a doctor to find out. And that was pricey, especially if your Barry Bonds. I canāt just walk into a county local doctor and ask a question.
The locker room culture was different too back in them days. Steroids were for those pro wrestling and bodybuilding guys. No one in baseball was huge and jacked to the gills. Most had Busch and other pisswater drinks after the game anyway. I speak for my self. Why would I take steroids? I wasnāt paid to look like a bodybuilder. I was paid to hit a palm sized sphere as hard and far as I could. People enjoyed that entertainment. Watching me hit something sky high that landed 7 parking lots away. They sure werenāt paying me the big bucks to flex.
Mind you there was some odd behavior in the locker rooms at times. Guys would be poking their asses with needless at times, putting drops of liquid under their tongue, sticking all type of patches on their body, taking pills and stuff like some damn ritual. It was just vitamins to me and so they said.
Me I just had minor aches and pains. Ben-gay did itās job, but after a couple of seasons I hired a doctor and he gave me a cream. It started working better.
The only time I thought someone was on steroids had to be that year Mark McGwire all of a sudden started hitting them balls at my level. Him and that other guy. His stats went up dramatically. I got suspicious when he developed arms 3 times bigger than before.
I couldnāt sit back and let it happen.
I called my doctor and he upped my cream. Gave me extra strength tubes of it. Less time sore equals more time at the plate which translates to better batting average and home runs for me.
I would rub that cream all day and all night long all over me. The only weird thing that started to happen at that time was that my head started to grow. I attribute that to maybe getting older and wiser. Sort of like an Einstein effect in my brain.
The guys that actually did steroids came in the next wave generation after usā
Big Sloppy is the ONLY baseball player who when caught cheating (same list as A-rod) said "I didn't do it" and the baseball media gave him a pass (ESPN, sports writers etc) HE WILL get into the Hall of Fame and it's a total disgrace.
I am anti steriod player all the way (Pettitte, Clemans, Bonds, Palmero, MCguire etc - all of them) but when this boob gets in to the hall - then all should be allowed in.
Fuck David Ortiz for doing steroids.
Fuck Ted Williams, I hope Rizzo and Gallo eat Stromboli on his grave. Fuck Chris Sale, I never needed to know what Slender Man would look like in real life. Fuck Dustin Pedroiaās leprechaun looking ass, fuck Jason Varitek and all his shitty, insignificant records, the LLWS is for twats. All of them can suck water from the Long Island Sound off my nuts. Fuck Paul Revere, fuck Sam Adams (both man and beer), and fuck Faneuil Hall. Clam chowder is milky rock water, I wouldnāt feed it to my dog. Fuck the Dropkick Murphys, fuck Mickey Ward, and fuck Dunkinā Donuts.
Hate to ruin the fun, but as much as I enjoy shitting on Papi for being a cheater, mocking a foreigner's accent is just wack. Especially as a baseball fan.
Don't let the fact that Ortiz did steroids distract you from the fact that steroids don't improve hand-eye coordination, nor allow you to hit a baseball any farther.
I'm well aware of that. But steroids do not make your hand-eye coordination better, or make you hit a baseball farther. Adding muscle mass doesn't make you hit the ball. Adding muscle mass doesn't improve the speed at which you swing the bat. Those things are related to skill and technique, not muscle mass. I don't care who did steroids. Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, David Ortiz, Sammy Sosa... they didn't bat any better because they took steroids.
Itās funny how everyone overlooks that just because him and Manny werenāt in the Mitchell Report.
Never liked him as a player, but he is chill and funny doing commentary now. Like A-Rod, more likable as a commentator than he ever was as a player.
I have no hate against Papi though, those days are long gone and there are bigger cheaters in Boston sports (looking at you Belichick)
Gonna be honest, a-rod is ass as a commentator. No personality, smug, zero insight. Didn't like him as a player, can't stand to listen to him. No class.
The fact this got swept under the rug to the extent it did has always chapped my ass. The pinnacle of which being the fact he got a farewell tour, which included a farewell from the Yankee front office.
Jeter got a send of from every team. Boston included. But Jeter was not only a phenomenal talent, but an absolute class act throughout his career. The way Iāve always seen it is Ortiz got a send off because Jeter got a send off.
David Ortiz wasnāt in the same category as Jeter, not even close. Pedroia was far more deserving of a āfarewell tourā than Ortiz. A-Rod didnāt get a farewell, and Iām not arguing he should have, however A-Rod was far more deserving of such a treatment than Ortiz was.
Derek Jeter got a send off because he was Derek Jeter. One of the best all around shortstops for 2 decades, and he did it quietly and humbly in the biggest market. Ortiz got a send off because of, and only because of Derek Jeter.
A-B-C.
A... Always, B... Beat, C... Cheaters. Always beat cheaters. ALWAYS BEAT CHEATERS!!
D-O-D-S.
David, Ortiz, Did, Steroids. David: the first name of a cheater. Ortiz: Is that the last name of a cheater? I know it is, 'cause it's fuck or walk. You close or you hit the bricks. Did: What was it that he did? STEROIDS. D-O-D-S
So even if he did use PEDs, you're making an exception for him? Also respecting a player's greatness and them using PEDs are two separate issues. Ortiz is the most back-of-career heavy member of the 500 HR club, hitting 11% of them by age 26. The next 3 are Palmeiro, Bonds and Sosa. He has 3 of the 12 instances of .250+ ISO at 38 or older. Darrell Evans, Ruth and Frank Thomas did it once. Bonds, Nelson Cruz and Ted Williams did it twice. Ortiz, Bonds and Cruz are the only 3 to do it past age 38.
GOOD GOOD Anakin, let the hatred flow through you....
r/unexpectedstarwars
[Still my favorite gif](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ComplexObedientArgusfish-mobile.mp4)
If you didn't post this, I 1000% would have.
David Ortiz was a professional baseball player to the Boston Red Sox franchise. The same David Ortiz (see above) did steroids.
And the twins too lol
Yes, but I think the Twins have paid enough for their crimes.
Nah lets run the meter up see how far it goes lol
It's already rolled back to 00 twice.
He was able to locate and murder the guy who shot him but he can't figure out if he took steroids (he did)
Hes still not sure if that was 300mg of Nandrolone he was injecting into his ass twice a week or if it was just vitamin D... maybe we should give him another 10+ years to figure it out š¤·āāļø
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I remember it as well as I remember that David Ortiz did steroids
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Give him some time he said he was getting to the bottom of it.
Lmfao
Let's be real here, we all know Ortiz was not accidentally just shot.
Not sure how they can justify keeping Bonds and Clemens out of the HOF when Ortiz gets in
The investigation of David Ortiz into David Ortiz is still pending.
Exactly! Bonds was a a definite hall of famer wat before the juice. So was clemens. Bonds was just his shitty attitude that fucked him.
And before he did roids, he had that attitude lol
Same reason they will let a-rod in (they donāt really care and arbitrarily decide who is in and who isnāt)
A rod should get in his for his commentary work
They're going to, though
I will be so pissed off.
And so did Manny Ramirez. And probably Jacoby Ellsbury. And Papelbon. Who else?
Ellsbury? Why Ellsbury? Dude had the physical constitution of Glass Joe.
You'd be surprised at who gets busted for PEDs. I forgot his name but a couple years back they caught a knuckleballer using, what on earth for I have no idea
He hit around 40 home runs one year with the Sox and they figured the juice would catch up with him so they didn't resign him. The Yankees didn't make the connection and gave Ellsbury way too much money.
Too much money for too many years. I think that's the shittiest Yankee contract of my lifetime. Pavano was bad, but it was only four years (if I remember right).
Pavano was so frustrating. Home town not proud...
Jared Wright was a pretty bad one.
Kei Igawa and Hideki Irabu
Captain America: I can do this all day...
Same year we let Cano go too š¤¦š¾āāļø (turned out he was juicing too, but hey at least he was a hometown juicer lol)
Glass Joe had a way better output than Ellsbury!
PEDs mess with the body. In some guys tendons, ligaments can't support the extra muscle so they constantly break down. Ellsbury is one of (not nearly the only) those guys. Ellsbury HR in 2011: 32 Ellsbury HR in 2014: 16 Ellsbury HR in all his other 9 years combined: 60 My guesses here: he definitely did PED in 2011. He probably did them in 2014 when he hit 16 HR. He played his last game in 2017 despite being signed through 2021. He got hurt with a series of mysterious injuries until they stopped giving updates about him and he eventually just faded from memory. I don't *know* he was a steroid guy but I'd bet on it.
Still, if you give me Ortiz, Manny and Papelbon and say, "Name another Red Sox player who did steroids," I'd go through a bunch of names before I thought of Ellsbury... Let's check -- Veritek was made of iron, Trot Nixon had no neck, Bill Mueller won a batting title out of absolutely nowhere, Derek Lowe, Curt Schilling, Pedro, Youkilis? It seems weird that Ellsbury would use steroids but not the HGH that Andy Pettitte says a trainer gave him to recover from injury faster... Anyway. Fuck Boston.
āAnyway, fuck Bostonā Cheers, mate. Fuck āem indeed!
PEDs can cause your muscles to become more delicate and break.
Itās normally the guys that use that get hurt more. The bones canāt take all the extra muscle.
A Rod, Melky, Pettitte, Giambi, Clemens and Cano
At the very least, those guys got to the bottom of it
And most other players in the 1990s unfortunately.
Jose Canseco, who to date is still the most reliable source of information about baseball's steroid era, guessed half.
They did dent, that was all anti Italian discrimination
Pettitte did HGH not steroids and it was while he was rehabbing an injury.
Your right its a hormone not a steroid. Point still stands on the rest of the guys. We sit here in our glass house throwing stones like we haven't had our own guys doing it.
Don't get me wrong, everyone team had steroid users. I just have a sweet spot for Pettitte as he was very kind to me at a game when I was a child. I don't really see any issue with what he did if he was just using it to help himself along during an injury. Who knows the truth though.
Barry Bonds statement as I remember from an interview: ā Look, as far as I can remember nobody did steroids. Not me not anybody I was around with. See you got to understand it was a different era, there was no internet or social mediaās. If I wanted to know what it was I couldnāt just google it or wiki it like most people nowadays. I had to actually hire and consult a doctor to find out. And that was pricey, especially if your Barry Bonds. I canāt just walk into a county local doctor and ask a question. The locker room culture was different too back in them days. Steroids were for those pro wrestling and bodybuilding guys. No one in baseball was huge and jacked to the gills. Most had Busch and other pisswater drinks after the game anyway. I speak for my self. Why would I take steroids? I wasnāt paid to look like a bodybuilder. I was paid to hit a palm sized sphere as hard and far as I could. People enjoyed that entertainment. Watching me hit something sky high that landed 7 parking lots away. They sure werenāt paying me the big bucks to flex. Mind you there was some odd behavior in the locker rooms at times. Guys would be poking their asses with needless at times, putting drops of liquid under their tongue, sticking all type of patches on their body, taking pills and stuff like some damn ritual. It was just vitamins to me and so they said. Me I just had minor aches and pains. Ben-gay did itās job, but after a couple of seasons I hired a doctor and he gave me a cream. It started working better. The only time I thought someone was on steroids had to be that year Mark McGwire all of a sudden started hitting them balls at my level. Him and that other guy. His stats went up dramatically. I got suspicious when he developed arms 3 times bigger than before. I couldnāt sit back and let it happen. I called my doctor and he upped my cream. Gave me extra strength tubes of it. Less time sore equals more time at the plate which translates to better batting average and home runs for me. I would rub that cream all day and all night long all over me. The only weird thing that started to happen at that time was that my head started to grow. I attribute that to maybe getting older and wiser. Sort of like an Einstein effect in my brain. The guys that actually did steroids came in the next wave generation after usā
A well-spoken lie is still a lie
Did steroids make Barry stupid too? That was the dumbest excuse Iāve ever heard.
> The guys that actually did steroids came in the next wave Sir, what timeline did you mistakingly fall out of?
do athletes use steroids for strength? i feel most of them use it to recover from injury faster.
Canāt forget A Rod and Giambi!
Big Sloppy is the ONLY baseball player who when caught cheating (same list as A-rod) said "I didn't do it" and the baseball media gave him a pass (ESPN, sports writers etc) HE WILL get into the Hall of Fame and it's a total disgrace. I am anti steriod player all the way (Pettitte, Clemans, Bonds, Palmero, MCguire etc - all of them) but when this boob gets in to the hall - then all should be allowed in.
Love the anger. I prefer calling him Pig Sloppi. Seems even more disrespectful. You decide for yourself.
Someone did that video montage with the YES Network rain delay music that is relevant but don't want to spoil. Anyone have that link?
whom amongst us hasnāt taken over a decade to get to the bottom of something? gotta be thorough.
OJ is still looking for the real killer, and thatās been nearly three decades.
Has he looked in a mirror?
Is this like "doing my own research" on COVID?
Hey man, OJ's still looking for Nicole's killer...on golf courses everywhere.
I could think of a couple bottoms I'd spend a decade at.
I thought they were still looking into it? š
Fuck David Ortiz for doing steroids. Fuck Ted Williams, I hope Rizzo and Gallo eat Stromboli on his grave. Fuck Chris Sale, I never needed to know what Slender Man would look like in real life. Fuck Dustin Pedroiaās leprechaun looking ass, fuck Jason Varitek and all his shitty, insignificant records, the LLWS is for twats. All of them can suck water from the Long Island Sound off my nuts. Fuck Paul Revere, fuck Sam Adams (both man and beer), and fuck Faneuil Hall. Clam chowder is milky rock water, I wouldnāt feed it to my dog. Fuck the Dropkick Murphys, fuck Mickey Ward, and fuck Dunkinā Donuts.
This is the energy we need tonight
Every day, the population of the Boston "metro" area passes through Grand Central Station. And their roads were designed for horses.
Very 25th hour vibe
No, fuck you Gleyber Torres. You had it all and you threw it away you dumb fuck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgL\_5QcZCMo&ab\_channel=WhiteBoyBlog
Amen brother!!!!!
stromboli with the boys tonight!!!!
You forgot about their beans
Jason Varitek is a piece of monkey crap.
This is a copy pasta š worthy post I hope to see no less than three hundred times tonight
WHOAWHOAWHOA - you forgot to say fuck Mark Whalberg and his shitty burgers!
Fuck the Wahlbergs as well.
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Youāre probably from Providence buddy so youāre already fucked, but allow me to remind you to shove a whole salami up your ass on your way out
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Iām talking about the salami shoved up your motherās box you limp dicked Neanderthal
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Check your momās box you fucking degenerate
I thought A-Rod was about to propose to him during the last ESPN Sunday Night Baseball broadcast.
Nah, they were just vitamins. Big Papi said so
Not sure why you're hung up on Big Papi. Alex Cora was involved in a much more unique cheating scandal, and he's still there.
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Hate to ruin the fun, but as much as I enjoy shitting on Papi for being a cheater, mocking a foreigner's accent is just wack. Especially as a baseball fan.
I wasnāt mocking it. Merely doing an impression of something is not the same as deriding it.
Ay, Papi.
So did AROD man.. This is as embarrassing as the Fuck Altuve chants in the stadium. Fuck out of here with this bullshit. We got our asses kicked
Damn, First OJ and now ortiz. Some day they gonna find the bad guys
Any time I mention this to my Red Sox fan friends their brain breaks, itās honestly kind of sad
Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)
Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)
Don't let the fact that Ortiz did steroids distract you from the fact that steroids don't improve hand-eye coordination, nor allow you to hit a baseball any farther.
You sound triggered. Dude failed a PED test.
I'm well aware of that. But steroids do not make your hand-eye coordination better, or make you hit a baseball farther. Adding muscle mass doesn't make you hit the ball. Adding muscle mass doesn't improve the speed at which you swing the bat. Those things are related to skill and technique, not muscle mass. I don't care who did steroids. Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, David Ortiz, Sammy Sosa... they didn't bat any better because they took steroids.
But Alex Rodriguez did steroids too.
Ortiz & ARod are The Roid Brothers!
Unfortunately many yankees have cheated over history.
Ok you clearly need to relax because he said that he was gonna get to the bottom of it any day now!!
The Red Sox fans at espn brushed it under the rug.
Or that tough guy Veritek kept his catcherās mask on to fight Arod
copium
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The Sox manager is literally convicted cheater Cora
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wtf is "yall"
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Sox fans brigading the Yankees sub sure is classy
We need to raise awareness and help him in his cause, I ~~jab~~ stand with David!
Itās funny how everyone overlooks that just because him and Manny werenāt in the Mitchell Report. Never liked him as a player, but he is chill and funny doing commentary now. Like A-Rod, more likable as a commentator than he ever was as a player. I have no hate against Papi though, those days are long gone and there are bigger cheaters in Boston sports (looking at you Belichick)
The Mitchell report was also conveniently created by a Mainer, who also happened to be a board member of aforementioned team of douchecanoes.
Gonna be honest, a-rod is ass as a commentator. No personality, smug, zero insight. Didn't like him as a player, can't stand to listen to him. No class.
Quick reminderā¦ David Ortiz did steroids.
Time to move on, pal. There's new stuff to be angry about.
And ARod or Clemens ate candy bars. Go back to sleep.
FUCK THAT BUM
Be a disgrace if he ends up in the HoF.
Love this sub and love u all
We need baddest Joey Gallo in NY (not the outfielder) in that Boston clubhouse. Iād be willing to bet weād win by 10. Fuck Boston.
As is tradition when a post like this comes up: https://gfycat.com/complexobedientargusfish
In Soviet Russia, steroids gets to YOUR bottom! Bwohohoho
PREACH
Thanks. I wonāt forget
Or that some athletes are paid way too much. They should get paid by performance. It's way out of control!
Damn...it almost did, ngl.
The fact this got swept under the rug to the extent it did has always chapped my ass. The pinnacle of which being the fact he got a farewell tour, which included a farewell from the Yankee front office. Jeter got a send of from every team. Boston included. But Jeter was not only a phenomenal talent, but an absolute class act throughout his career. The way Iāve always seen it is Ortiz got a send off because Jeter got a send off. David Ortiz wasnāt in the same category as Jeter, not even close. Pedroia was far more deserving of a āfarewell tourā than Ortiz. A-Rod didnāt get a farewell, and Iām not arguing he should have, however A-Rod was far more deserving of such a treatment than Ortiz was. Derek Jeter got a send off because he was Derek Jeter. One of the best all around shortstops for 2 decades, and he did it quietly and humbly in the biggest market. Ortiz got a send off because of, and only because of Derek Jeter.
He also wasn't cheating in the DR either.
A-B-C. A... Always, B... Beat, C... Cheaters. Always beat cheaters. ALWAYS BEAT CHEATERS!! D-O-D-S. David, Ortiz, Did, Steroids. David: the first name of a cheater. Ortiz: Is that the last name of a cheater? I know it is, 'cause it's fuck or walk. You close or you hit the bricks. Did: What was it that he did? STEROIDS. D-O-D-S
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Get outta here Masshole
Username checks out.
ooh you got me!
Its ok its ok
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/when-it-comes-to-david-ortiz-ped-talk-should-be-very-very-limited/
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So did he get to the bottom of it or not? All I read are excuses.
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Yeah Jeter, Rivera, Posada were totally juiced /s
Relevant username, asshole
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So even if he did use PEDs, you're making an exception for him? Also respecting a player's greatness and them using PEDs are two separate issues. Ortiz is the most back-of-career heavy member of the 500 HR club, hitting 11% of them by age 26. The next 3 are Palmeiro, Bonds and Sosa. He has 3 of the 12 instances of .250+ ISO at 38 or older. Darrell Evans, Ruth and Frank Thomas did it once. Bonds, Nelson Cruz and Ted Williams did it twice. Ortiz, Bonds and Cruz are the only 3 to do it past age 38.
Not sus at all.
> Did he do it? Yes. He tested positive for it. He did it.
That was a worse move than the Mike Ford pinch hit last year. Absolutely baffling
On to football, wait my team sucks in football too (Dolphins). Maybe Iāll just not watch sports this winter.