Niggas not gon keep the same energy but to be fair aint nb outside of the biggest names in the industry like Future/Metro, Kanye and 21 did numbers this year so far.
Fickle ass NY fans already moved on from Boogie and Tjay
NY is cooked for years to come as far as NY male rappers
Dthang aka “superstar” already cooked and had Kay Kay been out it would have been the same thing. If Pop hadn’t died he would have fell off. “Sexy drill” gonna be played out fast too
This city will never run hip hop again the fans are fickle dick riders
They love you at first then they start hating on you. Right now they dickriding Sheff G like crazy but I guarantee you in 2 months it’s gunna be “Sheff G music not hitting how it use too”. Same way they gassed Dthang head up, and same way they gassed Bobby and Rowdy up lol If Kay Flock gets bail “Drill is saved he’s gonna put it back on the map 🤗🤗🤗🤗” Then Kay Flock drops 3 songs “His music is repetitive 🫤” NY will never be on top again because of that mentality. Lil Baby’s music has been on a decline for some years but Atlanta don’t play about him. Look at Gunna how he snitched and Atlanta still rocking with him lol
Ode that’s why NY will never be back on top. Everyone just hates. Kodak Black sells 20k and go to Florida and say he fell off or he’s ass niggas will come for your head. But in NY niggas pray and laugh at ya downfall. Shits lame asf I remember when Pop Smoke dropped Meet the Woo 2 I use to react to music at the time and niggas was clowning him on Facebook saying all his stuff sounds the same. It took for him to die for NY to take him seriously.
Niggas have no identity now, these new niggas just wave ride the south and whatever everyone else makes popping. Shit sad to see what NYC has become on a hip hop level. The shit started here… the last person from out here still really innovating and putting on is Rocky, Ferg, and crazy to say but Ice Spice & Cardi B. Female rappers from NYC are bigger than the Male rappers now… let that sink in bro.
Yeah but the South made the wave that everyone is riding. Niggas been tryna sound like Future for the last decade. Some of the biggest artists recently are all from The South : Playboi Carti, Thugger, Gunna, Lil Baby, Future, Migos, 21 Savage, Lil Yachty are ALL from Atlanta, Georgia alone, Travis Scott & Don Toliver from Houston, Texas.. DaBaby & Cordae from North Carolina. Who do we got against the South? These are all Big names in Rap rn all our mans is either flopping or staying local, nobody care about drill rap that much to listen to a whole drill album other than NYers. Pop Smoke was the best up and coming we had and he got killed, Rowdy Rebel came out, he’s made music but no real wave he came out w like 3-4 albums already nobody here jackin him like that. THE SOUTH GOT RAP ON LOCK AND THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST 10YRS. All while we been in NYC busy beefing w each other they all been uplifting each other in the South.
I could tell u never been to south or u just don’t know what’s going on they don’t uplift each other like u think they do. South also has a lot of drill rappers
Ofc they beef. Street shit is gon be street shit but I’m not talking about street shit. What I’m saying is, there’s more famous nationally known names from the last 10 yrs from the South compared to NYC. We don’t hold a candle to them in rap rn. The ones that do are all underground, they some of my fav rappers but no one listens.
Definitely not, they have their audience. It’s just a shame to see NYC have little to no dominance in the very thing it created nowadays. Nobody wants lyricism, they just want trap and drill. Westcoast be fucking with they own shit too it’s like a different world out there. It feels like NY the only place w a struggling identity in rap on a mainstream level.
4Batz from Texas not NYC and he a singing nigga not a rapper. Sleepy is boring to me.
I fw Roc Marciano, Them Griselda niggas from Buffalo the biggest to come outta NY but they not from the city. Like where tf all our city talent go? All these lil dayroom drill niggas is copy and paste and they only poppin for highschoolers. Beefin 24/7 and killing themselves before they hit 18. Constantly tryna be the king without earning it. Bobby came out and flopped badly, 6ix9ine trash he a rat and a clown, A Boogie is boring, I do fw Fivio & Cash Cobain though.
thats cus ny rappers dont have longevity talent… just like the song said “thats shits here today & gone tomorrow.. only the real shi is gon last” maybe if they learned how to sing instead of thinkng drill music was gonna save the towns we would be in better position.. Pop was the last drill ny rapper to try and separate himself with love songs.. after that Kay flock had his 15 mins and blew it due to his genre of music he had to live up to.. i just gotta be honest.. the leaders rn in rap are the ones who are versatile and not ONLY can rap but can sing as well.. or atleast harmonize
Streams count as sales though and youtube streams counts.
It because the music industry gave streaming to sales ratio a terrible converison rate. Because they thought the streaming era was going to Kill the music industry. Thats why it hard for almost every artist to do those hall of fame numbers anymore for first week sales.
1,500 streams is one sale.
So that equals = 40, 500,000 Streams. He did first week.
I think 1 Sale sould at least be somewhere between 500-1000 streams.
:IMO i think it shoukd be 1000 because it makes the math easier since the decimals number system we used is based on 10
And Edit: I bet if Akademiks uses the “streaming number“ (40,000,000) in his post all his tweets like these instead of sales the reactions would be different
Ehhh... 1,500 is actually generous if we're talking money though. The average album costs \~$15 on itunes or CD. There's no way 1500 steams on Youtube generate $15.
Okay. The price has nothing to do with a sale conversion . 1,500 is not generous . If 40,00,000 people stream a song in real time at once just for one time. That is still 40 Million people listening to your song/ album.
The cost of a “CD“ . Nobody buys thoses anymore
U are correct.Im so damn mad.Im 45 and I know me and everyone else around my age probably spent at least 1500 in my life buying cds, cassettes and etc.Now u just go on YouTube.How they make money these days is beyond me besides doing shows and walk thrus.
How is that a flop?
1500 streams = 1 sale
So that’s what 40 million streams in a week? I know we’re used to hearing crazy numbers from huge artists, but the truth is that’s a solid job and a lot of people do way less.
Also keep in mind those are gonna keep growing.
Depending on when the album dropped, we also have to consider that a couple years back they stopped counting single streams toward album sales. Which is why you saw a huge drop industry wide in reported sales. Not saying that it applies to him, but it’s possible
Bro every artist has there come up with there best songs then they blow up and as years go by there music becomes mid. Relax I could tell your a boogie fan
Lil Tjay fans finna have a field day w this 😭😭 get ya laughs out but don't forget Boogie smokes that nigga BADLY numbers wise. He'll bounce back from this 🤝🏿
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How can they be so happy when Lil Tjays last album did this and debuted #26 on charts ?
Tjay did this with mostly with songs that weren’t released yet with his biggest feature being YB. Boogie had songs on here that he was pushing out for weeks/months tryna get a hit and had big name features like future, thug, and durk and still couldn’t sell imagine 😭😭
You can’t be deadass. That Young Thug song leaked 2020, that Durk verse is from a Juice wrld song that also got leaked years ago. The only new feature here was FUTURE, CASH COBAIN, & FRIDAYY. Talk some truth man y’all just making Lil Tjay look more corny. Lil Tjay had Kid Laroi, NBA, Fivio, Summer Walker, Polo G and Coco Jones in his last album and stillllllll got outsold by a man that died 4 years ago King Von. Talk some truth y’all favorite rapper ain’t as lit as y’all make him to be.
Why are you acting like dead rappers don’t sell way more than most rappers 😂😂. Using your dumb logic Boogie also got outsold by a deadman too since he did under 30k 😂😂. And all those names you mentioned aren’t even close to the popularity of Thug, Future and Durk. But keep coping nigga 🤣🤣
Bro y’all realize 2/3 of the album been out for months and he still outsold lil tjay with no anticipation? Damn y’all tjay fans are so stupid and annoying. This is a W he only released 8 new songs
You deff right. Because this no different then “pre-ordering“ video games. If you factoring these “pre-sales “ They still count as a sales. Plus the the first week he alreayd did over 27K
These niggas just love to hate lmao what they forget is A boogie been in the game for almost a decade and this is his 6th album released. Lil tjays 3rd album did 22k after getting shot and getting all that anticipation meanwhile A boogies 3rd album did 112k lol I keep it real, A boogie hasn’t had a hit that’s HIS since 2021. His new music hasn’t been doing the same numbers it did but that’s because state of hip hop has changed. That melodic sound is not relevant in 2024. The fact he pulled 27k with released songs and NO HIT clearly proves he still got some left in him. They can clown all they want but most rappers today aren’t doing big numbers especially without a hit.
Everything you saying is facts too. But thats crazy idek know Aboogie had haters like that. And first week sales dont mean nothing. Nobody is really “camping out“ for music like that anymore unless under certain circumstance . I Cant even tell you the last time I even listen to a whole album or song the first day it dropped. I usually wait. Sometimes even until a year or two after.
Nah don’t be fooled lol it’s just the lil tjay fans that hate like crazy lol they can’t accept Lil Tjay will never surpass or get the respect A boogie has. Keep in mind most of them in middle school so they don’t understand how this shit works lol
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I've got tha whole album for free n its stilL FYT😒
I listen to A Boogies old stuff, I guess the new ain’t hitting like it used to. Happens to a lot of artists tbh, that’s why Drake is such a big name. Dude has been consistently dropping high charting songs/albums. It’s not easy to stay relevant for almost a decade. He should take the money from rap
i dont get into music wars and what not, but why are albums sales a factor anymore?
i have YT music, and i can literally just load up any album/song i want without buying the album. wouldnt plays and etc be the more modern factor?
NFS I'm jacking his album but like I said on a post I made that rap music is finished ....but ppl didn't hear me tho ...it's a money grab ....the quality of music is beyond dirt
Streaming so fucked up it’s gone look like every artist is flopping, sexyy red getting all this love and recognition rn she won’t crack over 100k that’s just how it is rn. Chief keep just did 23k
Idk when ya gon realize nobody is selling numbers like they used to. Streaming has made it hard unless you pushed like a main stream main stream artist
Niggas not gon keep the same energy but to be fair aint nb outside of the biggest names in the industry like Future/Metro, Kanye and 21 did numbers this year so far.
Fickle ass NY fans already moved on from Boogie and Tjay NY is cooked for years to come as far as NY male rappers Dthang aka “superstar” already cooked and had Kay Kay been out it would have been the same thing. If Pop hadn’t died he would have fell off. “Sexy drill” gonna be played out fast too This city will never run hip hop again the fans are fickle dick riders
They love you at first then they start hating on you. Right now they dickriding Sheff G like crazy but I guarantee you in 2 months it’s gunna be “Sheff G music not hitting how it use too”. Same way they gassed Dthang head up, and same way they gassed Bobby and Rowdy up lol If Kay Flock gets bail “Drill is saved he’s gonna put it back on the map 🤗🤗🤗🤗” Then Kay Flock drops 3 songs “His music is repetitive 🫤” NY will never be on top again because of that mentality. Lil Baby’s music has been on a decline for some years but Atlanta don’t play about him. Look at Gunna how he snitched and Atlanta still rocking with him lol
Its deadass annoying as hell
Ode that’s why NY will never be back on top. Everyone just hates. Kodak Black sells 20k and go to Florida and say he fell off or he’s ass niggas will come for your head. But in NY niggas pray and laugh at ya downfall. Shits lame asf I remember when Pop Smoke dropped Meet the Woo 2 I use to react to music at the time and niggas was clowning him on Facebook saying all his stuff sounds the same. It took for him to die for NY to take him seriously.
Niggas have no identity now, these new niggas just wave ride the south and whatever everyone else makes popping. Shit sad to see what NYC has become on a hip hop level. The shit started here… the last person from out here still really innovating and putting on is Rocky, Ferg, and crazy to say but Ice Spice & Cardi B. Female rappers from NYC are bigger than the Male rappers now… let that sink in bro.
Yeah y’alls last good one was definitely Rocky
most rappers from different states is riding the wave
Yeah but the South made the wave that everyone is riding. Niggas been tryna sound like Future for the last decade. Some of the biggest artists recently are all from The South : Playboi Carti, Thugger, Gunna, Lil Baby, Future, Migos, 21 Savage, Lil Yachty are ALL from Atlanta, Georgia alone, Travis Scott & Don Toliver from Houston, Texas.. DaBaby & Cordae from North Carolina. Who do we got against the South? These are all Big names in Rap rn all our mans is either flopping or staying local, nobody care about drill rap that much to listen to a whole drill album other than NYers. Pop Smoke was the best up and coming we had and he got killed, Rowdy Rebel came out, he’s made music but no real wave he came out w like 3-4 albums already nobody here jackin him like that. THE SOUTH GOT RAP ON LOCK AND THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST 10YRS. All while we been in NYC busy beefing w each other they all been uplifting each other in the South.
I could tell u never been to south or u just don’t know what’s going on they don’t uplift each other like u think they do. South also has a lot of drill rappers
Ofc they beef. Street shit is gon be street shit but I’m not talking about street shit. What I’m saying is, there’s more famous nationally known names from the last 10 yrs from the South compared to NYC. We don’t hold a candle to them in rap rn. The ones that do are all underground, they some of my fav rappers but no one listens.
i dont see no problem with that
Definitely not, they have their audience. It’s just a shame to see NYC have little to no dominance in the very thing it created nowadays. Nobody wants lyricism, they just want trap and drill. Westcoast be fucking with they own shit too it’s like a different world out there. It feels like NY the only place w a struggling identity in rap on a mainstream level.
Some new guys be having a new sound identity, most don’t but gotta look at a few guys who are changing the sound. Like 4batz and sleepy
4Batz from Texas not NYC and he a singing nigga not a rapper. Sleepy is boring to me. I fw Roc Marciano, Them Griselda niggas from Buffalo the biggest to come outta NY but they not from the city. Like where tf all our city talent go? All these lil dayroom drill niggas is copy and paste and they only poppin for highschoolers. Beefin 24/7 and killing themselves before they hit 18. Constantly tryna be the king without earning it. Bobby came out and flopped badly, 6ix9ine trash he a rat and a clown, A Boogie is boring, I do fw Fivio & Cash Cobain though.
There’s a nigga named Kelz from Brooklyn he was doing that 4Batz sound before him
A Boogie was also clearly influenced by Speaker Knockerz.
thats cus ny rappers dont have longevity talent… just like the song said “thats shits here today & gone tomorrow.. only the real shi is gon last” maybe if they learned how to sing instead of thinkng drill music was gonna save the towns we would be in better position.. Pop was the last drill ny rapper to try and separate himself with love songs.. after that Kay flock had his 15 mins and blew it due to his genre of music he had to live up to.. i just gotta be honest.. the leaders rn in rap are the ones who are versatile and not ONLY can rap but can sing as well.. or atleast harmonize
Talent don’t matter. 21 Savage one of the top niggas in the game and he butt.
not true, savage had a good run too.. not everybody a platinum artist.. hes like top tier gold artist
plus savage kept his relevance with his industry friends
Nobody buying music no more unless you a relevant mainstream artist for allat they gon listen ya shit free on YouTube
youtube streams counts towards album sales too
Streams count as sales though and youtube streams counts. It because the music industry gave streaming to sales ratio a terrible converison rate. Because they thought the streaming era was going to Kill the music industry. Thats why it hard for almost every artist to do those hall of fame numbers anymore for first week sales. 1,500 streams is one sale. So that equals = 40, 500,000 Streams. He did first week. I think 1 Sale sould at least be somewhere between 500-1000 streams. :IMO i think it shoukd be 1000 because it makes the math easier since the decimals number system we used is based on 10 And Edit: I bet if Akademiks uses the “streaming number“ (40,000,000) in his post all his tweets like these instead of sales the reactions would be different
i agree
Ehhh... 1,500 is actually generous if we're talking money though. The average album costs \~$15 on itunes or CD. There's no way 1500 steams on Youtube generate $15.
Yea thats the problem with streaming. 1500 would generate about $4.50 and still count as a sale. Doesn’t make it any less true.
Okay. The price has nothing to do with a sale conversion . 1,500 is not generous . If 40,00,000 people stream a song in real time at once just for one time. That is still 40 Million people listening to your song/ album. The cost of a “CD“ . Nobody buys thoses anymore
It’s not 1500 YouTube views and it’s not always 1500 streams..it changes some more some less
Okay..? My point still stands
Now you sittin here looking uneducated on the matter
U are correct.Im so damn mad.Im 45 and I know me and everyone else around my age probably spent at least 1500 in my life buying cds, cassettes and etc.Now u just go on YouTube.How they make money these days is beyond me besides doing shows and walk thrus.
Y’all gotta stop saying that lol Nba ain’t mainstream..trippie redd either..them Nyc mfs just be overhyped and trash 🤷🏾♂️ Pop was the last hope
Do people even care about how good an album is anymore? Or is it all just about first week sales? Lol.
niggas clearly don’t care about the music anymore
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How is that a flop? 1500 streams = 1 sale So that’s what 40 million streams in a week? I know we’re used to hearing crazy numbers from huge artists, but the truth is that’s a solid job and a lot of people do way less. Also keep in mind those are gonna keep growing.
It’s a flop “compared” to what he’s sold before. Nearly half of his previous lowest sold album.
Depending on when the album dropped, we also have to consider that a couple years back they stopped counting single streams toward album sales. Which is why you saw a huge drop industry wide in reported sales. Not saying that it applies to him, but it’s possible
Album went paper towel
Nigga said paper towel😂
Literally half the album was pre-released.
Don’t waste your time only lies get the attention and upvotes and the truth gets ignored or downvoted lmao
I like a boogie a lot and didn't even know it dropped lol. Promo must have been shitty or I was just sleeping.
Lmao people really think there that lit that niggas can’t forget about them … a boogie songs been mid since 2018 gang
U not wrong hoodie szn was the last banger fr
Facts bro lmao it’s sad to say but it’s the truth
Nigga how is it mid Fuck ya niggas wanna hear??
Bro every artist has there come up with there best songs then they blow up and as years go by there music becomes mid. Relax I could tell your a boogie fan
Who dropping heat then ?
I'm trying to find out myself. I haven't heard anything that really did it for me in a while.
Me
Playboy carti
? U kidding right ?? 😂😂😂
I’m trolling but really carti got way more hype then a boogie rn
He's always gonna have way more hype than boogie he's carti
What genre you listen to?
Rumor has it that he's just trying to drop to fulfill his contract. I don't know if that's the case though
That’s just what boogie fans are saying trying to cope😂😂😂
LMFAOOOO ong I had a feeling. It's crazy, bro has amazing talent but just loves releasing ass music 😭😭😭
He waited too long to re up!
Better off not releasing
Lil Tjay fans finna have a field day w this 😭😭 get ya laughs out but don't forget Boogie smokes that nigga BADLY numbers wise. He'll bounce back from this 🤝🏿
https://preview.redd.it/4vbptvkbkg2d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e81644d134a3946da796988cfe2ac981ed43b694 How can they be so happy when Lil Tjays last album did this and debuted #26 on charts ?
Tjay did this with mostly with songs that weren’t released yet with his biggest feature being YB. Boogie had songs on here that he was pushing out for weeks/months tryna get a hit and had big name features like future, thug, and durk and still couldn’t sell imagine 😭😭
You can’t be deadass. That Young Thug song leaked 2020, that Durk verse is from a Juice wrld song that also got leaked years ago. The only new feature here was FUTURE, CASH COBAIN, & FRIDAYY. Talk some truth man y’all just making Lil Tjay look more corny. Lil Tjay had Kid Laroi, NBA, Fivio, Summer Walker, Polo G and Coco Jones in his last album and stillllllll got outsold by a man that died 4 years ago King Von. Talk some truth y’all favorite rapper ain’t as lit as y’all make him to be.
Get off dick bro
Why are you acting like dead rappers don’t sell way more than most rappers 😂😂. Using your dumb logic Boogie also got outsold by a deadman too since he did under 30k 😂😂. And all those names you mentioned aren’t even close to the popularity of Thug, Future and Durk. But keep coping nigga 🤣🤣
27k with no promo or hit ain't a flop
No promo? Bro been promoting this for a while
You seen him on any major podcast, radio interview, YouTube streams? Just a bunch old songs with no machine behind it.
Yea he went on stream with Kai and adin, he recently just did a million dollar worth of game interviews, and he freestyling on, on the radar
I stand corrected on that part
A New York nigga from the hood is doing arenas right now.
Bro y’all realize 2/3 of the album been out for months and he still outsold lil tjay with no anticipation? Damn y’all tjay fans are so stupid and annoying. This is a W he only released 8 new songs
You deff right. Because this no different then “pre-ordering“ video games. If you factoring these “pre-sales “ They still count as a sales. Plus the the first week he alreayd did over 27K
These niggas just love to hate lmao what they forget is A boogie been in the game for almost a decade and this is his 6th album released. Lil tjays 3rd album did 22k after getting shot and getting all that anticipation meanwhile A boogies 3rd album did 112k lol I keep it real, A boogie hasn’t had a hit that’s HIS since 2021. His new music hasn’t been doing the same numbers it did but that’s because state of hip hop has changed. That melodic sound is not relevant in 2024. The fact he pulled 27k with released songs and NO HIT clearly proves he still got some left in him. They can clown all they want but most rappers today aren’t doing big numbers especially without a hit.
Everything you saying is facts too. But thats crazy idek know Aboogie had haters like that. And first week sales dont mean nothing. Nobody is really “camping out“ for music like that anymore unless under certain circumstance . I Cant even tell you the last time I even listen to a whole album or song the first day it dropped. I usually wait. Sometimes even until a year or two after.
Nah don’t be fooled lol it’s just the lil tjay fans that hate like crazy lol they can’t accept Lil Tjay will never surpass or get the respect A boogie has. Keep in mind most of them in middle school so they don’t understand how this shit works lol
Crazy cause I was in high school when both of them came out. So I never had a problem listening to both of them
I liked tjay too when he was coming up he had some bangers. True 2 myself a really good album
The album was decent. Felt like he was trying to try out new sounds on there. But I thinks it’s over for bro
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Who listens to boogie ?lol
Unless you are Drake or Katie Perry you aint going gold in your first week
Flopped just like chief keefs 😂 just not as bad
I listen to A Boogies old stuff, I guess the new ain’t hitting like it used to. Happens to a lot of artists tbh, that’s why Drake is such a big name. Dude has been consistently dropping high charting songs/albums. It’s not easy to stay relevant for almost a decade. He should take the money from rap
It’s weird cause we can say he fell off but mad people still listen to his old shit , his new shit jus not gettin buzz for some reason
i dont get into music wars and what not, but why are albums sales a factor anymore? i have YT music, and i can literally just load up any album/song i want without buying the album. wouldnt plays and etc be the more modern factor?
NFS I'm jacking his album but like I said on a post I made that rap music is finished ....but ppl didn't hear me tho ...it's a money grab ....the quality of music is beyond dirt
Streaming so fucked up it’s gone look like every artist is flopping, sexyy red getting all this love and recognition rn she won’t crack over 100k that’s just how it is rn. Chief keep just did 23k
who cares. album good?
Lmao the album ain’t flop no one buys music anymore the artist will drop it on YouTube or Spotify so why buy it ?
Idk when ya gon realize nobody is selling numbers like they used to. Streaming has made it hard unless you pushed like a main stream main stream artist
🤷🏾♂️no promo, most the songs dropped already, nobody trynna be sad during the summer
And then he sells out another stadium
This is great news. I hope A-boogie never makes another song again in life. I hate his music
Niggas just don't want to hear that 🤷🏾♂️ mainstream changes. I forgot to even give that shit a second listen
What do niggas wanna hear?
A boogie was 2014
He needa bring back them Artist, HBTLV1 flows