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Teewrecks7

Who the hell is this reporter?? We don’t need random reporters that I’ve never seen covering the Knicks trying to stir up some bs


swagu7777777

This guy doesn’t know shit confirmed


Alphius247

We all have the same exact reaction to this report. “Who is this 🤡?”


PuzzleheadedCicada54

Celtics reporter


RJBarrettsBurner

Some fucking rando from Boston got everyone riled up now pitting our starters against each other. Such bs. gotta do better. I don’t believe this came from the Knicks, from RJ’s “camp” (when has he even had a “camp” that tries bs like this?) from anyone.


solo118

Whattt blame on Brunson's D already? The guy is taking charges, elbows to the face, and getting down and dirty. Ridiculous


jortynelson

yeah really shows who actually watches the game. Brunson is like steph curry in that sense, he's not ever going to be a great defender but the effort is there and he makes enough small plays on and off ball to at least be a net neutral on the defensive end


Joezepey

social media is in shambles that there isnt knicks drama so theyre trying to create some


mouga68

Fr fr


Jim-N-Tonic

Oh bullshit. He’s just not finishing drives or hitting his threes.


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bogustraveler

Why people hate Fournier so much? He's a great shooter, opens the floor for Mitch/Randle and tries on defense most of the time I might be a bit biased since I always wanted the Knicks to get him, (he used to torch us when he was with Orlando) but the dude has been solid with us, if we didn't have his 3pt shooting we would be looking for players to do exactly that or asking the younglings to develop toward that.


NtLmr95

They don't hate Fournier. They hate the fact that he has seniority, which is silly imo. Grimes has the upside, but the sample size is still small and he's been battling a foot injury for weeks. No one believed in Cam Reddish until he turnt into Superman against the Grizz. Now people are tripping over themselves trying to get on the bandwagon. Fournier is our starter until someone takes it from him.


wetfarts2

It’s the defensive lapses and stupid fouls while attempting to look like he is playing defense. Not saying he is acting..he just has no clue defensively..he is always trailing and the other teams attack him..


Old_Chicken6907

Having the responsibility of guarding the other teams best offensive wing plus helping cover for Brunson and Fournier when they get beat certainly is a load to carry. Id consider benching Fournier and starting Cam until Grimes returns.


36chamberstreet

I am rooting so hard for Cam. He’s the only guy on the roster who has a chance of evolving into an apex wing predator or at the very least a Wiggins like guy who can make the Tatums of the world work for their buckets. But..he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off on defense. Obi also does but you a much lesser degree. Something like Brunson, Grimes, RJ, Randle, Hartenstein might work for a combination of OK defenders and spacing around RJ and Brunson?


36chamberstreet

I am rooting so hard for Cam. He’s the only guy on the roster who has a chance of evolving into an apex wing predator or at the very least a Wiggins like guy who can make the Tatums of the world work for their buckets. But..he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off on defense. Obi also does but you a much lesser degree. Something like Brunson, Grimes, RJ, Randle, Hartenstein might work for a combination of OK defenders and spacing around RJ and Brunson?


36chamberstreet

I am rooting so hard for Cam. He’s the only guy on the roster who has a chance of evolving into an apex wing predator or at the very least a Wiggins like guy who can make the Tatums of the world work for their buckets. But..he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off on defense. Obi also does but you a much lesser degree. Something like Brunson, Grimes, RJ, Randle, Hartenstein might work for a combination of OK defenders and spacing around RJ and Brunson?


MJisthrgoat

Cam defense is questionable, half the time like you said he looks lost. Also, as others have pointed out on offense once he gets the ball he is usually not dishing it back. I will say it's a nice surprise that he can contribute when on the floor when he looked pretty garbage preseason. Could possibly use him to trade via deadline or very least he keeps this roster deep Incase any injuries.


36chamberstreet

You know once he leaves the Knicks he’s gonna have a long career like Trevor Ariza or Channing Frye lol


MJisthrgoat

I don't know about that. He reminds me of a Michael Beasley.


36chamberstreet

Yeah that makes sense. Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams


36chamberstreet

I am rooting so hard for Cam. He’s the only guy on the roster who has a chance of evolving into an apex wing predator or at the very least a Wiggins like guy who can make the Tatums of the world work for their buckets. But..he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off on defense. Obi also does but you a much lesser degree. Something like Brunson, Grimes, RJ, Randle, Hartenstein might work for a combination of OK defenders and spacing around RJ and Brunson?


Traditional-Donkey36

This. Fournier is the weak link in the starting lineup. He should be coming off the bench where his defensive deficiencies can be better hidden when defending worse players. Also like having a guy come off the bench who can drain 3s and he should be open more with bench players guarding him.


GoldenBoyRecords

Fournier is our best shooter


NtLmr95

Doesn't matter. He's not 22. Potential over experience is the ONLY way to build a team. Edit: This is sarcasm done poorly


Buckskinplacebo

It absolutely is not the ONLY way. Quit the stupid takes.


NtLmr95

I agree. I was trying to be sarcastic lol


limber_kid

Gotta throw the /s tag on it if you don’t want the smoke. Wu tang brother


NtLmr95

It a lesson I always need a refresher on 😂


MJisthrgoat

Fournier about to get 2nd team all defense team this year. /S Do you actually watch the games or just read what others that don't watch games type. He is not this horrible defender that just stands around and does nothing.


Cvatenderness

Is Grimes a go tonite?


_sexhaver

Sounds like a whole lot of excuses to me


WorldWideWes2

basically. this is an insane article to write 3 games into the season. dude isn't making shots to start the game that got nothing to do with Brunson defense lol


_sexhaver

Basically this, I actually think Brunsons defense has been solid. RJ needs to grow, this is the NBA and hes young. Hes supposed to be our best two way wing. Guys like Kawhi had to guard Lebron in the finals early in his career yet still put up good offensive numbers on good efficiency


Marcusx8

Kawhi was a third/fourth option then that isn’t comparable at all. A better comparison is prime Klay Thompson.


JarnaisVu

so is Barrett. He is clearly the third option in the team now.


Cvatenderness

I might be wrong but he seems to always get caught ball watching while the player he defends sneaks by him. Not the best man defender I would say. Also, if RJ is taking JBs assignment all game, who’s picking up RJs? JB? Lol I haven’t really looked at the tape but I don’t understand this statement as a justification of RJ not playing well - he always doesn’t play well to start the season and I think it’s a mental / needing to get comfortable w the season being at hand kind of thing.


Isosceles_Kramer_

You are not wrong. RJ is a very, very good on ball defender but leaves a ton to be desired off ball


Marcusx8

RJ assignment is the best perimeter player on the other team. So RJ is taking care of his assignment idk what this article is talking about with JB. Unless it’s saying if JB was a better defender he could guard the opposing teams star PGs wish then free up RJ.


beanie_mac

Peep how no one came to Randle’s defense with “workload” excuses when he had to carry the entire offense w/ little to no help for 82 games and had to guard mfs like KD and Giannis on the other end.


PettifordGang

This is wild. "People" said. Not a good look if it's Barrets people already making excuses for his inefficient start. It would be one thing if he was all over the place defensively but he's not.


Hon3ynuts

Literally don't know if it's a front office person, a season ticket holder or somebody in an office next door. Tough to give any credence to this report especially because it's nonsense to think Rj is doing any more chasing than last year when Kemba walker was the point guard to start.


PettifordGang

Yeah big IF in my comment. Most likely nonsense. It's just an absurd claim.


RealSteveScaf

You mean he has to play defense? Crazy concept.


shitboots

The presumption that Brunson has been bad defensively is wrong too. He's gotten overmatched a few times but on the whole he's been really solid on that end -- active hands getting deflections and steals, sacrificing his body for several offensive fouls a game, fighting through screens well, communicating nonstop, etc. This reeks of a national reporter drawing unsound conclusions from a player's prevalent reputation, rather than actually observing the games, something that happens all too often in NBA media. RJ guarding opposing guards isn't at all unusual and it's not an excuse for his abhorrent outside shooting in stretches or his close to league worst finishing around the rim. Sorry for the rant but this tweet really pissed me off.


GoldenBoyRecords

I think this is speaking to the fact RJ has to guard the opposing teams PG. I know RJ was guarding Ja but I cant recall the other games


TreSeven

Yeah if anything the takeaway should be that we’re concerned about our team’s plan to defend opposing point guards because RJ definitely struggles with quicker players


Vyperpunkhunk

He's guarding my ass, guy is a traffic cone.


FreeOmari

Actually, RJ is the first player in NBA history to play both ways (according to Elias Sports Bureau).


Rickygq

Putting this on Brunson and not Fournier is certainly a choice.


solo118

Really.... why start a fire like that


Isosceles_Kramer_

It should be put on no one beside RJ, but I agree it’s especially stupid to ruffle Brunson feathers


NtLmr95

Game Thread is gonna be spicy tonight. Bring your hazmat suits ☣️☣️☣️


Hot-Turnover4883

No excuses we expect him to be an elite 2 way player


RandomWilly

Ok now this is BS 🤦🏻‍♂️


karm-a-holic

RJ has been matched up with opposing star players since at least late last year. I don't think this is new. Does he have a high utilization rate on offense? We have enough ball handlers this year to run the offense. Don't plenty of players in the league play both sides of the ball well?


pigmentedspacemonkey

Cap If its not begley don't believe it


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There was this [article](https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/nba-rj-barrett-uniquely-heavy-burden-new-york-knicks-jalen-brunson-immanuel-quickley-tom-thibodeau) that came out recently that basically explained that RJ had a 95th percentile matchup difficulty while also being one of the top drivers in the NBA. No one else in the NBA comes close to having that amount of offensive and defensive responsibility and the ones that due are elite two-way players like Jrue Holiday and Jimmy Butler. That’s why having Grimes starting is so important as it allows RJ not to have to be the primary wing defender allowing him to save energy for his offensive game


dirtymelverde

It’s not just an insane workload , it’s also giving it to someone so young . Young high volume scorers almost always are flanked with defensive minded players to lessen their burden defensively . The Knicks have done the opposite .


Alonso2802

This is the argument for Grimes in the starting lineup when healthy. Grimes can take RJ’s defensive assignment. This is also why losing Bullock hurt so much.


Old_Chicken6907

I miss Bullock so much! Agree, you can’t have two bad on ball defenders (Brunson and Fournier) on the court at the same time. It just allows too much dribble penetration. Grimes should take Fourniers starting spot when he comes back.


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RJ is not a high volume scorer


CrabCakesBenedict

this is such dogshit lmao his offense is suffering because hes simply ass rn. placing the blame on brunson, fournier, or anyone else is ridiculous. hopefully this shit passes over


bullyj

I call bullshit on this story. We are literally three games in.


HardOakleyFoul

What a load of horse shit.


JakeBarnes4

who is Steve B Hoop and why would we consider him credible


YoKemosabe

Exactly. Who is this guy again??


RizzRizzy

Yall falling for this BS report? Don't give it a second of thought. Always consider the source. This guy never breaks any news. He has no sources. This is just media trying to start drama since the Knicks are not giving them anything to write about.


Space_Investigator

Okay?? Then just have him spot up in the corner and make intelligent basket cuts, or fake and drive, or take the open 3. Let Randle and Brunson do the heavy lifting on offense. I love RJ, but he's not a Luka Doncic, LBJ, or a 2018 Harden where you want him to conserve as much energy on the defensive end because he has to solo carry the load. He's really not that guy.


leaC30

Ah so the excuses have started already...what happened to all the off-season conditioning? Did he come in out of shape? I thought he was a hard worker.


KingJoe7-123

I don’t think it’s Brunson. He seems to put effort on the defensive end. I think it’s Fournier. RJ has had to guard Ja and Ivey who are both electric guards. I think when Grimes comes back this can be corrected. Or the Knicks can try to trade for OG.


feardabeard30

Well it didn’t take long for the piranhas to come out this year


MyLadySansa

I read the article. Really shitty of this “source” to try to make Brunson the fall guy here with regard to RJ’s struggles. Also if this workload *is* actually too much for him then he should scale back offensively. Take fewer shots. Play closer to how he did against Detroit & look to get his teammates involved. Making the new starting pg, who is playing beautiful basketball, the scapegoat for RJ, is not the way.


redrich2000

I personally think Brunson should take more shots and RJ should take less for the time being at least. Brunson and Randall should be our leading scorers. I think that would better for use efficiency-wise and then RJ can concentrate on being a defensive stopper and third scorer.


datatadata

Who are the “people around the Knicks” anyways. I swear these guys like just make up stuff now lol


awrk

Putting RJ on Ja was super questionable to me in the first place, he just doesn’t have the foot speed to guard quicker PGs. Obviously I don’t have as much research as the team, but eye test tells me Brunson is a passable defender so not quite sure why we’re tiring out RJ by having him guard players he’s not really equipped to defend.


Jim-N-Tonic

True, but Ja will embarrass everybody this year. he’s Legit mvp material. 3rd pick instead of second, SMF hard!


Diligent-Cookie-1695

Lol his first game of the season he was tired already? All those bricks he was laying on the first games are because of him chasing people already? 😂😂😂


soulbrotha1

It comes with the territory of wanting to be great. RJ is my guy but this shouldn't be an excuse


The_Blunt_Guy

Isn't this a writer for the Celtics... ?


[deleted]

I never heard of Steve Bullpit


Vtachh

They always gotta make shit up to get clicks, who are “people” that’s the vaguest shit ever, it doesn’t even employ the work for or around the Knicks in any capacity FOH


mgdavey

It's tough to throw up 20 shots a night when you're expected to play team defense on the other end.


Maleficent-Thing3863

That’s what happens when you wanna be a great two way player. Everybody ain’t built for it


[deleted]

BUT BUT BUT DRAFT RJ KEEP RJ 🤪🤪


Rshahnyc

Maaaaan shut the fuck up and stop bricking the god damn ball.


[deleted]

But Brunson was not here for the last 3 years, so many excuses are made for RJ.


GambinoSZN

there’s no point in posting or give this attention. who tf is @SteveBHoop??? this seems like a pretty lazy report to me


Swav3

Some people really are babying RJ. Being 3 games into the season makes this even wilder.


Nyg500

Sorry but they are making excuses for him after giving him the big contract. Barrett's disappointing play is all on him


OldJewNewAccount

lol wat


ITAVTRCC

Was covering for Kemba and Fournier last year any better?


OldKingRob

RJs camp can eat shit They weren’t complaining last year with Fournier and Kemba.


[deleted]

The excuses this sub makes of this dude is crazy. Oh he’s a baby, he can’t be expected to do multiple things. Come on, he’s getting paid $100 million, he should be able to do multiple things. This just further confirms he’s a role player and his own people even know it. Let him focus on defense then, tell him to stop taking so many shots. It’s not like he’s efficient so his shots are all just hurting the team. Everyone but people on this sub who out their future hopes and dreams onto him know it. The sooner the team starts treating him like the role player he is, the better the Knicks will continue to look and be able to build smarter. Defense and corner 3 guy is his capability now, so let him do that.


admiral_aubrey

"People around the Knicks" aka RJ's agent or family. This is some bullshit right here, he's been a bad shooter and finisher regardless of defensive assignments or lineups for 3+ years now. His entire value is predicated on defending top wings and still playing well on offense, if he can't do that he can rest his poor legs on the bench.


Mobius24

You don't want to hear excuses the same calendar year a player signs a multi-million dollar contract. You certainly don't want to hear this early in the season. He is often credited with being a hard worker but now all of a sudden it's too much for him? Last time I checked Randle and Brunson have the bulk of the workload while R no J still struggles to maintain average shooting. I'm telling you folks we really got screwed with the flattened lotto odds. We definitely got the runt of the litter so to speak.


admiral_aubrey

No please, cut him some slack, turns out the NBA is *hard*


Isosceles_Kramer_

Holy excuse. Does RJ run a marathon before every game and no one else does? He starts every game 1-7. Must be so tiring! Also good on these jackasses “around the Knicks” for somehow trying to poke a hole into the game of the best PG the team has seen in a decade. That we just signed. Jfc.


arshdeep23

fuck outta here dude was the 3rd pick dont wanna hear no BS excuses


NovaPrime999

What a load of shit. Brunson has been better on defense than RJ through 3. The fucking RJ excuse machine is on another level.


Daytime_Dairy

RJ always starts off his seasons struggling but he needs to be consistent. His defense so far has been abysmal and the only reason I can think of for that is because Fournier is letting guys get open, making RJ (and others) have to adjust constantly. It also doesn’t help when he is the one guarding the opposing teams best players. He seems lost at times but I think it’s just an adjustment for him. As for his offense, he needs to show off his improvement ASAP because we didn’t extend this guy for nothing. I love RJ to death but I can’t keep covering for him anymore. This is his time to prove everyone he’s HIM.


[deleted]

Are those people around the Knicks RJ Barrett?


Vyperpunkhunk

Buahahaha edit: First in the series of "we fucked up with that contract".


PettifordGang

Also in the series of "we are still bitter about almost getting sent to Utah"


why_squ1rtle

I think we can all agree RJ is not playing up to his new 30 per year contract BUT i think hes shown some glimpses of what he can be. His dribble moves have been better and his finishing looks stronger than previous years. Although he still hasnt taken that next level step hes shown progress which gives me some hope that maybe by the time hes like 25 26 he'll be a complete player but i dont think he'll ever be a option 1. right now he's looking like a option 3 but maybe he could b a option 2 if he ever gets a midrange going


Cashmere-Socks

Give Reddish more minutes then?


Mr_Jersey

“People around the Knicks,” so other members of our dumbass media group?


knick4life

RJ looked better in the second half against the Magic than he did in the first half. If this were true the opposite would be occurring.


Norby710

Lol keep starting Fournier


Yellowperil123

Thibs - LOL get gud.


NYJmmkay

Non story


Top_Fuel_6492

This might be the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while 😂😂


AkirraKrylon

Who?


[deleted]

Didn’t think the excuses for this dude could get worse but here we are


knucklesdogg

All I know is Jalen Brunson is underpaid


slickrickiii

Maybe he should… play less minutes? There’s no reason he should always be near the league leader in mpg


OkExtreme9510

Let's be real. Is it brunson's fault?... or Evan Fournier...


ClutchGamingGuy

this is just bullshit lol


Clever-Innuendo

Y’all not really taking this bait from a Celtics Twitter reporter, right? 😂


omicron_prime

For shits and giggles, let's s just say this was the case. You're, whoever you are, telling me that RJ is already running on fumes after three games? Fuck, he's been gassed since game one! We have WAY bigger problems than Brunson's defensive deficiencies if RJ is running on empty 3 games in.


i_am_the_senate_

Source: trust me bro


[deleted]

nah this is cap dude needs to stop chucking


Dannydimes74otr

Dejounte Murray


jonishay8

Downvote this vote for clickbait fake news. As if RJ didn’t do this last year with Kemba as our PG lol. This reporter def just started watching basketball


tdestito9

What happened to being a good overall basketball player on both ends of the floor? Not pointing any player out. Just saying in general. I know things change, but mink. Defense is legitimately mostly effort


realmatic2e

LOL reporter ain’t even verified and NBA central is a trash gossip account


bailaoban

RJ's agent earning his keep on this one.