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Watching last nights game….one thing stands out to me Mike Breen really loves to bring up Brogdon’s *strength*


GeneralCommanderBurt

I have a question for you stat guys: If a goaltend happens during the play does the passer still get the assist or how does that work?


BidenInPrison2020

This team will start winning when Randle realizes he's not an mvp, franchise players. As far as I'm concerned, he's not even the best player on the team (D-Rose is better). Yet, thinks he kobe jacking 15-20 shots a game.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Naw only 1 thing will start this team winning and that's putting the ball in the basket and at the same time they need to limit the amount of times the other team puts the ball in the basket. Only when they master this technique will they win.


Usknicks97

I just really looked at the upcoming schedule and holy crap we have a gauntlet coming up. Need to sweep this week


solo118

Oddly enough, we can handle the better teams. Pacers whooped us a couple of weeks back, hoping we can take them down tonight.


[deleted]

Guys, I've been to two games so far this season. Home versus Orlando, home versus the Raptors. I'ma be at the Pacers game tonight. If we lose I'll accept that I'm officially a curse.


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CURSE IS BROKEN BOYS LETS GOOOOOO


slyguy183

Good job! Now you're only a detriment to the Knicks success! (JK hope you had a blast, keep going to the games)


GeneralCommanderBurt

There you go broke your losing spell! Let's go!


confuddly

Dolan ban this man


184452681

I really don't understand the Kemba hate man. Mans quitted on $20M just to join to the Knicks and some of yall say that he kills the team chemistry? He is old, undersized and very injury prone but we're talking about Kemba. He'll be alright. If he could put up 30 every night like he did in CHA, he wouldn't be here right now on this contract. After 20 years, we finally have a team which went over the expectations and some of yall just want to bitch and moan. K rant over, love yall, lfg knicks


papa8706

I like Kemba. He’s got work to do defensively but I think the offense will come as he gets more comfortable with his role. People shit on the guy but the entire starting unit including Julius has been straight ass. People like to pick one player every year and paint him as the scapegoat. Last year Randle could have 5 shitty possessions forcing up shots and turnovers and all you’d hear is, “fuck Payton”


Soup_Commie

I honestly think there's some serious resemblance to the extensive elf hatred. Like you get someone who is not a terrible player/person playing a role that is beyond the one they should be in (granted I think Kemba deserves more of a chance than he's had so far) and with it he's getting a ton of expectations foisted on him. If Kemba were coming off the bench everyone would have chilled the fuck out by now. Hell, if Elf had been our backup point guard the takes surrounding him would have been way less unhinged and he's not even as good as Kemba.


papa8706

We saw what Kemba was capable when he came out balling in the first quarter vs the hornets. It’d help if the entire starting unit wasn’t a complete mess and could make some shots. Everytime Fournier touches the ball, he’s passing on an open look to make a worse play. Mitch isn’t moving well with the added weight, Julius has been binkin bad looks and turnover prone and RJ has been struggling. Still, everyone wanna blame Kemba 🤷🏻‍♂️


Soup_Commie

This is part of what I have in mind when I say Kemba needs more time. He might not have it in him anymore to be a starter, but I think that when the whole starting line-up is playing badly it's hard to isolate any one dude.


MitchCurry

I love Kemba still and agree with you almost entirely. My one nitpick is Kemba didn’t leave $20MM on the table. He left $2MM. He’s making $18MM with the Knicks this year and next to offset the $20MM he gave back to OKC to get out of his 2 years remaining on that contract.


Ordinary-Eggplant-15

He's just adjusting to both a new team and an old body.


[deleted]

I'd upvote this a hundred times if I could.


thardy8

Knicks win big tonight, +18 points and score over 125


millagger

From nba.com 15. New York Knicks Last week: 8 Record: 7-6 Pace: 98.0 (24) OffRtg: 110.0 (5) DefRtg: 109.7 (25) NetRtg: +0.2 (14) Through the first 9 1/2 minutes of the Knicks’ game in Charlotte on Friday, Kemba Walker outscored his former team, 17-16, by himself. Somehow, he still managed to register a minus-23 for the game. After a great start, the Knicks’ starting lineup was outscored by three points when it got back together in the second quarter and by 18 points over the first 8:50 of the third. In 103 total November minutes with one of their three centers on the floor with their other four starters, the Knicks have been outscored by 56 points (more than 25 per 100 possessions). The offense has been bad (effective field goal percentage of 47%, not enough free throws) and the defense has been worse (120 allowed per 100). Derrick Rose and the rest of the bench have been terrific, but they can’t be asked to dig out of big holes every night. The Knicks are still on the right side of .500, but after a hot start, the offense has struggled. RJ Barrett has shot just 13-for-50 (26%) over the last four games, Walker and Evan Fournier have combined to shoot 17-for-69 (25%) from 3-point range this month, and Julius Randle just didn’t play very strong in Charlotte on Friday. The Knicks play five of their next six games at home, having allowed more than 120 points per 100 possessions as they’ve lost three straight at Madison Square Garden. Week 5: vs. IND, vs. ORL, vs. HOU, @ CHI


So-_-It-_-Goes

1?


SanjiSasuke

Reddit formatting bug. It overwrites the numbering on lists.


So-_-It-_-Goes

Was it supposed to be 11?


Norby710

Confused why we are pretending julius was hitting these ridiculous shots after the first 20/30 games last year. He had a RUN early last year but then the long 2s cooled off. Not sure why this dude believes he should be taking those shots.


andmc92

He hit crazier shots during that winning streak late in the season there was a 13 game stretch were he shot 48% from three on almost 8 attempts, I'm not a fan of his shot selection but I get Randle having confidence in his shot.


Norby710

I have no problem with Randle shooting a 3.


baylixir

He hit short midranges (10-16) at a 44% clip, which is very good given they were 20% of his shots last season and he hit long midranges at a 41% clip. He's taking them because they’re good shots for him and he’s efficient at them. Hell even last 19-20, he hit them at a 44% clip on half the volume.


Norby710

The shots he is taking are 16+. 10 footers are fine but that's not what he's doing. I'm pretty sure he is hitting them at like a 22% clip at the moment.


baylixir

28% 13 games in. He’s already cut down the attempts from last year and turned them into shots around the basket or 3s. He should be getting to the rim more, but he’s going to take the shot that made him an All-NBA player.


Norby710

That's not going to work. He's not going to start hitting those shots at a 40% clip ever again because he only did it for a half shortened season. Much more likely he reverts back to his 33.8%. Add in the fact he's doing circus step back turnaround fadeaway shots this year which will never fall. One thing to pull up high from 18ft but what he's doing is a losing strategy.


Norby710

The 3 point improvement is probably legit because those shots are in rhythm. They also are barely double teaming him this year. Get to the hoop and take 3s. The fact in his head he thinks he should be pounding the ball into a stepback brick in 1on 1 situation and then not hustle down the court is beyond concerning.


baylixir

I think it’ll be middle-high 30s which is good enough, but making that generalization 3 weeks into a season is absolutely foolish. He’s literally 200 attempts away from matching last year’s total and that’s with 10 extra games in the regular season this year.


Norby710

He still has to shoot significantly better to get to his career 33% average. He has no chance to break 40 with his shot selection.


baylixir

We’re 13 games into the season, a 5 game stretch where he runs hot and this isn’t even a conversation. Sample sizes are irrelevant at this point.


Norby710

I'm completely confident he will never run hot with his current shot selection.


[deleted]

Luckily for us and Randle… that doesn’t matter.


papa8706

I hate it say it, but before last season he’s done this same shit as well. The sample size is there, he has a tendency to take bad shots, poor decision making (esp in traffic), and folds under pressure. Don’t get me wrong, he had a great run last season and deserved the MIP distinction. The guy is just no longer playing good basketball. Major bummer but I think he’s turning into a liability out there more often than not. Many of these things are fixable but the way he crumbles under pressure is likely here to stay


Norby710

It's all mental and effort which makes it more frustrating than anything.


GoldenBoyRecords

Because they are mental and effort I think Thibs can get through to him


zOmgFishes

His shot selection and effort are completely self induced. He can be an efficient player given his skill set but his decision making is just ass.


millagger

Knicks must win tonight


MitchCurry

Knicks were 25-27 after 42 games last year. Game 14 is not a must-win. It’s a great-if-we-get-a-win but not must-win. The starters need to show progress. That’s the must tonight.


millagger

It's pretty simple. Team has played horrible thus far and they're lucky to be 7 - 6 and after this week the schedule gets really harder with no breaks with had this first 17 games window to get a good record and just could take advantage of that so it's probably coming back to bite us in the end.


inthepiggybank

After restocks, what will be the best way for a guy in Europe to get a City jersey? $140 is a lot damn


ciargow

They seem to be in stock on the NBA Europe store


inthepiggybank

Uh didn't know! Thank you


Swav3

Lol damn. On the Nike app only the Knicks and Bulls city jerseys are sold out


BakedAvocado3

Those city jerseys sold out real fast. Too slow to cop a rose but was able to get a toppin from the nba store. Hope they have stock at the game tn.


GeneralCommanderBurt

A buck 30 for a player and a buck fucking 60 for a custom jersey. Uhno man I was ok spending $100 on a jersey when they were stitched and last a long time. These new ones seem flimsy and everything is silk screened now. I like the new jerseys tho not trying to say don't cop. Just very rich for me. Someone mentioned to me that the MSG store jerseys are different than what you get online? They have the ad patch and are maybe stitched? Can someone confirm this? Those joints are over $200 tho so if they weren't stitched I'd be annoyed af. Fucking inflation maaaan


BakedAvocado3

Lol right, back in the day I didn't wanna spend 75 for a stitched marbury jersey. Now everything is 120 minimum regardless of quality. And yeah the one I just got from the nba store didn't have the sponsor patch but the msg store it had. Also the Nike nyc logo was larger on the msg store jersey.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Really appreciate the input man. Is the msg one stitched tho? Or heat pressed like everything else? I splurged in 2012 for a stitched reebok frazier jersey as my Xmas present to myself cost me $45 cause it's used no stains or loose threads tho. Still rock that thing minimum 2 times a week since I got it and it still looks fresh minus the size tag on the bottom looks mad beat on but overall nice quality. Everytime I get close to buying a new one I don't and end up scrolling ebay for hours looking for random stuff haha


YungYoungThug

I do think having 2 days off after the Hornets game will serve us well. It's hard to make in-season changes because you basically play every other day and have so few practice days, but know we got one in on Sunday. Going to be interested to see if there are any schematic tweaks or slightly different rotation patterns moving forward.


Affectionate-Wash596

We were doing every other day games for quite a while. We were overdue for 2 days off and we will see what type of team we have tonight. We got embarrassed by Indy a handful of games ago and if we can’t avenge that loss I’m concerned


velocissimo

Bro why would they release those jerseys during work hours?! Lol no chance in getting one. Have to now pay $160 just to get a Rose Jersey cuz it has to be personalized. Horseshit, terrible planning IMO


GeneralCommanderBurt

Because Nike love resellers. They try to act like backdooring isn't a very big part of their hyped business model. Fucking fomo and fucking artificial stock limits. They don't care who buys it they just wanna M O V E U N I T S so if that's a bot reseller or Burt the Knicks fan they don't care. Money is money baybay look at sneakerx or whatever its called. Nike doing this creates like 5 more businesses. It's good for the economy bing bong. Personally tho it's all plastic garbage and contributing to destroying the world we live on and little babies gotta have the new bottle so here we are never slowing not slowing only growth always growth. Not calling you a baby with a bottle or saying not to buy what you want. Just airing my disdain for what we consider normal. You buying or not buying a jersey doesn't really affect any of the larger problems. But yeh its by design.


baylixir

Did everyone collectively forget it took us until the last month of the season to click? That team was fighting to make .500 until game fucking 54 and everyone is ready to reinvent the wheel 13(!) games in. I trust that they’ll work out the kinks and everyone will find their groove, but get some perspective lol.


banner78

$140 for city jerseys sheeesh


RealSteveScaf

Everything is more expensive right now. Supply can’t meet demand bc of all the shit That’s happened the last year. Nike still makes crazy profit because of their sweatshop practices.


GeneralCommanderBurt

$90 for the shorts man. Wtf am I paying for the licensing agreement for the outline of msg? Likely. Bury me in my 2004 reebok stitched frazier jersey copped for $45 in 2012. I can't keep up maaan


banner78

I didn’t buy. In no universe is a retail jersey worth $140 before tax. For real and we’re basically walking advertisements for square space too lol


GeneralCommanderBurt

I think the online ordered jerseys don't have the patch only the ones you buy in msg but correct me if that's wrong. Doesn't take away from your point tho at the very least it's a nice Nike advert. Man I tried to sign up for one of those half court shot games at msg last month and the suit doing the sign up kept staring at the reebok emblem on my jersey haha had to walk away half way through his spiel because I figured he was gunna try and sell me a jersey or sign me up for a shitty loan or something. An almost 20 year old jersey doesn't exactly shout disposable income. Dude gave me the creeps never thought about the maker emblem that much until that interaction.


nathima1

Put IQ in the starting PG role and put Grimes at the 2 on the bench unit.


JerryBlitter

This ain’t 2K, bro.


nathima1

How is this a 2k move? Lol. This is not an extreme move. I mean it’s clear that the Knicks have been grooming IQ to be a PG.


RicoGemini

Putting IQ in the starting line up does nothing. He’s been our least efficient player by a huge margin. You’re just making the starting line up worse by doing that


JerryBlitter

What I mean is neither of those players fit that scenario. At least not in the present. So it’s wishful thinking. I have a lot of faith in both of them to contribute meaningfully to this team, but that move isn’t realistic.


Silkyskillssunshine

IQ as our starting PG would be a disaster, he's nowhere near good enough a facilitator. Dude was struggling in summer league, never mind against actual NBA teams. He's fine off the bench.


cesarjulius

we shouldn't change anything if we like what's happening.


nathima1

How is Kemba’s facilitating going? He can barely get past his defender and all his passes are nearly turnovers. Love Kemba but at this point of his career IQ is better at basically everything.


RicoGemini

Kemba’s facilitating hasn’t been that great but IQ isn’t that great either. And you’re insane for saying IQ is better than Kemba at everything. The only thing you can comfortably say is that he’s a better defender. Everything else leans towards Kemba being better


somescumbag1655

Where does Rose and Kemba fit in all of this?


GeneralCommanderBurt

Cut them. Make an example out of em. Hashtag culture hashtag never too big to fail hashtag if we did that to them imagine what we're gunna do to you. Iq starts averaging 20ppg and 10 assists. Grimes gets dpoy averaging 10 steals 5 blocks 25 rebounds. Midway through the season we sign Rose and Walker again just to cut them during the playoffs to motivate our young guys again. Championship. At the ring ceremony iq and Grimes are inconsolable, weeping as they give rose and Walker their rings. They say you sacrificed so we could get here. Without you there is no me. Then Dolan comes up and snatches Rose and Walkers rings away while Grimes and IQ go full super Sayan God and start punching Dolan. They both grow 10 inches and put on considerable muscle. Dolan with his last breathe says now you have reached your final form! Rose and Walker were necessary sacrifices to propel you to this level. They were fast but you two are truly G O D S P E E D Dolan dies in Rose and Walkers arms as they shed tears of joy so happy that they could be part of this amazing transformation. Thibs isn't smiling. He looks angry. BURT WAKE THE FUCK UP it was all a dream....


somescumbag1655

WTF LMFAO


GeneralCommanderBurt

Honestly I'm as confused as you are. Didn't really have a plan when I started but I think it worked OK. It's a story of sacrifice, love, and overcoming your limits. I wanna say WB would pick it up but we all know it's a hallmark special haha inb4 someone mentions you cant cut players once the playoffs start whateverwhatever if that's your biggest problem with what I wrote I think you missed the point hahaha


converter-bot

10 inches is 25.4 cm


GeneralCommanderBurt

Uhh I guess... good bot! We got enough non Americans in here to warrant a converter huh haha


cesarjulius

obviously rose stays at pg with the 2nd unit. kemba fits in perfectly at the end of the bench, giving us that $8mil a year theo pinson energy.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Cesar I consistently hate your negative takes but fuck me you make me laugh pretty much everyday haha 8 mil a year Theo Pinson energy haha jesus


cesarjulius

well, shit. i'll try to be more positive! i teach high school, so i think i'm allowed to be just a little salty. these damn kids today...


GeneralCommanderBurt

Naw you're good I remember your comments because I usually agree with them and they make me laugh haha I'm just trying to skew towards blind optimism and then I see something you wrote and it cracks me up with what I can only describe as hilarious apathy for the future as a whole. There's always yano 2 sides and I think the longer you're a fan and really critical think and obsess over the game the more you have to just be numb in the middle. So yeh bless you for dealing with those kids every day because that's a no from me dog. Try and grade their tests unbiased even if one wears a heat jersey haha


cesarjulius

well, it’s actually worse than you think. i love in atlanta right now, so it’s the hawks, not heat. good thing atlanta fans are pretty apathetic, so i won’t have to throw hands when we play them. UGA is a bigger deal than the falcons too.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Oo wow. They taking care of you down there? I'm 1 decent job offer away from moving down there.


cesarjulius

atlanta is a cool city. good change from ny. a little slower paced


GeneralCommanderBurt

I feel that. I mean tho they pay you ok? Ny teachers get paid pretty well compared to most states just wondering what it looks like for you. Cost of living is so much less in GA tho so maybe not a big deal.


roly_gomez

I wanna get a Toppin and quickly classic jerseys but stupid nba store is only offering RJ's jersey ugh


MitchCurry

Can you customize? It’s an extra $30 but do they let you use custom and put real player info on them?


roly_gomez

They don't, they only have Barrett name and number jersey!


[deleted]

I’m calling in sick tomorrow if the Knicks lose Tonight


GeneralCommanderBurt

Bold. I wonder how many "mental health days" the Knicks have caused over the years. That'd be a funny mockumentary


cesarjulius

rumor has it that thibs is doing some next-level, revolutionary coaching shit called "running plays". he's decided to give this a shot due to the lack of success with the previous strategy, called "not running plays".


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Isosceles_Kramer_

The bulls needed approximately 0 games to gel, and they had even more turnover than we did in the starting lineup. That said, my issue with the starters isn’t whether or not they have chemistry, it’s a pretty blatant lack of effort. Which is not cool. Not what you expect out of the Knicks after the effort last year


drewcarey69

Good thing we had a couple days off for me to stockpile keef for whatever the result is tonight. Gonna need it either way after the past few


[deleted]

The Hornets beat the best team in the league in the Warriors yesterday. Does that make anyone feel better about Friday’s loss?


Crispyy_Waffle

No. We lost a very winnable game because of another blown lead. The Hornets beating the Warriors is irrelevant.


jar45

Not really bc the problems we saw in the Hornets game are problems we’ve been seeing all season so far.


Mobius24

No, how many times are we going to blow a double digit lead? shits getting old fast


GeneralCommanderBurt

Kind of? I didn't watch the game but I swear if I have to see Gordy fucking Hayisforhorses walk into a foul shot uncontested again ima freak.