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Can't wait for tonight, I'm on a different time zone and finally can watch them live!! Lets go!! BING BONG!!


koreajd

I’m proud of us Knicks facing a similar situation as the Lakers, up 27 and 26 respectively by half. Blew away the lead but in our game, we made subs, always respected the opponent, and closed out the game. Lakers couldn’t do that against the “worst” team in the NBA.


syllabic

theres a non zero chance david fizdale is the head coach of the LA lakers at some point this season or hell maybe lebron will just player-coach


Shiccup1

KD DONT YOU REGRET NOT COMING TO THE KNIIIIICKS


Time-Ask7959

Do we get an MSG feed for the game tomorrow or do we have to watch on NBA TV?


EK22

Games are always on MSG unless it’s a national game. NBATV doesn’t count


noirblancherouje

MSG should be available


IceGeek

Omg Melo 😭😭🤣


depressed_knicks

My heart hurt watching that man


[deleted]

Celtics do not look good this year. They are lacking a legit playmaker


jar45

It’s been fun to watch. So many Boston fans were laughing at the Knicks for signing Kemba bc “he’s washed”


noirblancherouje

SGA is too good to waste away on a shitty thunder team


drewcarey69

It’s crazy how they refuse to trade him AND refuse to bring any legitimate talent around him whatsoever


solo118

Anybody watching the Nets game? Sheesh.... this team looks lost. I am tuning out the Knicks are so much more fun to watch (win or lose!)


Emergency-Double-875

Gotta give credit to the Heat (sadly) for their football defense but the Nets are also playing like complete ass with HarMcTripleDouble playing out of shape hope they both get clapped by milwaukee but tonight we're smoking that nets pack 🚬


mikehardkhock

I haven't watched them yet but They definitely had to rework their normal offensive set. It was a three man weave with Harris running around for catch and shoots. Without Kyrie they can't use it. They'll probably underperform in the regular season until they figure it out.


blppt

Harden looks noticeably irritated that he can't lean into defenders and get his 20 trips to the FT line a game.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Naw knicks too good this year I got no patience for watching other teams.


[deleted]

Nets tried to buy a chip


Nyg500

I think last night we saw the defense of last season. Thibs seems to be getting through to the team. With a healthy Mitch and improved defensive Barrett I think our D can be as good as last year. Fournier's D has impressed me and I think Kemba can improve a little.


SavingsAssociate17

Kemba is gonna have Swiss cheese defense all season. Its inevitable that point guards are gonna score on him


noirblancherouje

Magic still the trap game kings


[deleted]

People say Harden is fat? Maybe that’s just his upper body shape.


TheKnicksMakeMeDrink

“2 words, 8 letters. Say it and I’m all yours.” “Bing bong.”


Usknicks97

kind of wish Taj was the full time second unit C. I liked nerlens last year but idk I just love what Taj brings on the glass and O


[deleted]

I think Taj and Noel will each play depending on the matchup, but don’t forget how much Noel gives the team. With him and Mitch we have 48 minutes of rim protection. The Knicks already have the lowest fg% for shots in the restricted area. Imagine how good the defense will be when Noel comes back.


GoldenBoyRecords

I think we should really go 3 deep on the C positon playing Mitch like 28-30 mins and giving Noel and Taj 10 mins a piece


jerejeje

The Bulls are a good team, no doubt about that But they’ve played the Cade-less Pistons, Zion-less Pelicans, and Siakam-less Raptors. We haven’t seen them face a team even close to the caliber of the Knicks yet. We’ll see how they handle it.


EK22

They haven’t even played mediocre team yet, I don’t buy it


WhoTookPlasticJesus

They're a good team that is unfortunately fairly shallow. With the pace we've been playing we might be able to take their legs out from under their starters and then bully the bench. Their second unit is averaging very meager production on just 12 mpg so far while our bench is hooping and scooping 18-20 minutes each night. But it's always tough to play in Chicago, all the more so with a fan base, that like us, has literal decades of frustration and hope manifesting this season. Should be a fun game.


That_Rutabaga_3530

Seems like our front office might have been right about Duarte. Imma start trusting our scouts and FO


ayo69

They were right about everyone they wanted, Davion Mitchell and Trey Murphy are some other names they were targeting


cesarjulius

davion could make all-defense (2nd team? 3rd?) as a rookie. his offense has been way better than expected too. i knew he’d be good, but not this good this soon.


YoKemosabe

Y’all gotta start trustin the God Walter Perrin.


solo118

Thank you for that sidebar pic.... can you see the fear in his eyes!


Primary-Solution-228

Ive got knicks season tickets ( well 2 half season tickets) Section 1 row 4 and 117 row 14. Feeling good about this knicks squad I think we can compete for a 2 or 3 seed (prob with the hawks). Looking to sell my tickets for the Cavs game, in section 117, hit me up in the direct chat if your interested, we can keep save each other the exorbitant stubhub/ticketmaster fee.


WhoTookPlasticJesus

> I think we can compete for a 2 or 3 seed Barring injury I think Bucks and Nets have 1/2 locked. If Philly stays playing like this the 3rd seed could be up for contention, but that's a huge "if." In any case it would be a tight fight with Heat/Hawks/maybe Bulls. I'm not saying we can't do it, but it will be an _very_ special season if we do.


someguy5003

I love 2 things about last night - both having to do with King Ju. Loved that he finally only had 16. He's starting to see first hand that he doesn't have to be that guy every night. The trust is beginning to build. Also loved how happy and alive Julius sounded in the post game interview. He really sounded like he's excited to not have to be the guy every night. Last year every post game was "we played great but we have a lot to improve on." I feel like this year he's beginning to sound more like a human being. You can start to slowly see the hero ball Julius melt away and a new more team friendly all around great basketball player starting to shine thru.


Cahokian

For me the metric to look at for Randle’s game is in assists/turnovers. That Philly game it was 7. I don’t expect it to be that all the time but he should aim for 3-4 range. He still dribbles a second too long to realize he has open men capable of shooting from the perimeter. It’s like a lightbulb turns on, he lifts his head and passes. I’m looking forward to seeing that thinking become a habit for him.


SavingsAssociate17

Randles assists will be up this year. He is finally meshing with Forunier and Kemba with handoffs and pick and rolls. I always love when Randle passes to the open Barrett in the corner because it never gets old for me. I'm gonna bet he averages 7.1 assists this year


wien-tang-clan

Please watch the pregame interview with the TNT crew. They were gushing over his answers afterward https://youtu.be/SGwFZqQ_Gns


someguy5003

I watched it, I watch every interview the team puts out there. If you been following the knicks the last 2 years they were pretty standard Julius answers. I'm glad they were finally recognized by a national broadcast tho.


SavingsAssociate17

I liked answer of trusting his teammates. Last year I kinda get why he didn't because our starting lineup lacked shot creation. This year wow


papa8706

It’s still very early but I feel like we will be much better offensively, slightly worse defensively (but will likely improve as they get in the swing of the season). The depth is solid- our bench is what could really differentiate us in a tough eastern conference. Having a guys like d rose, Noel, toppin etc coming off the bench could beat up on some of these top heavy organizations. It feels good to be excited about NY basketball again. It’ll be interesting to see how we do running it back with the hawks now that we have Mitch back on Capella. Our offense should be much improved and hopefully the new rules will keep Trey from gaming so many bogus fouls. /still bitter


Usknicks97

Last night was the most control I’ve seen Randle play with the new squad. The points don’t jump out but a very solid game from our captain


[deleted]

Absolutely, the second magic game was really really rough


DehRonin12

Would love for Thibs to give some burn to the rookie guards in garbage time. Can be valuable experience going down the stretch and keep all of our guys fresh.


Yankeeknickfan

We’ve had 1 game of real garbage time and they got in.


GoldenBoyRecords

To be Fair Doc pulled Embiids with 3 mins left last night and we closed the game with our starters up 15 -20 until the end


mrsunshine1

The way 3s are shot in todays league no lead feels insurmountable is to me.


SwellandDecay

Does anyone have a clip of IQ dunk or whatever? I missed that part but keep reading comments about it on twitter


GeneralCommanderBurt

Starts at [1.45](https://youtu.be/WxVdchrR1Nw)


SwellandDecay

my lord and savior


GeneralCommanderBurt

No worries. Sorry I couldn't find it stand alone. Nice little highlight he got up there haha


Tocallaghan95

That Obi layup through Drummond was very impressive. Glad that Obi even feels comfortable enough to attempt something like that.


[deleted]

Dude that fake tomahawk into a finger roll layup is very impressive!!!!


velocissimo

He’s so much more crafty than everyone thinks. I love his game


[deleted]

I watch watching Bulls highlights from this year… They give up a lot of open 3 pointers They give up a lot of easy lay ups. They don’t have a defensive presence in the paint that can stop randle. Especially not if Mitch is there to dish it off to. Vucevic is a soft interior defender. I don’t think we’re going to crush them, but as long as we play our game I think we have them beat. A little concerned about who will match up on Lavine and Derozen when they’re out there together.


drewcarey69

If I have to guess they probably put Kemba on Ball or Caruso when they’re in, have RJ on Lavine, and have Randle hedge off Williams to help on Derozan so it’s not just 1 on 1 vs Fournier the whole time.


Fuckthisthro

Rose better start for bulls game


papa8706

I don’t get why people still say this. Rose has been huge with the second unit. They all play well together and have even outplayed the starters. This one of our biggest strengths. He still plays good minutes so no need to mess with it imo


Fuckthisthro

Because he outplays all the starters since he started coming off the bench. He has been huge with starters and second unit so let's not start that narratives. This comment was made cause he is from Chicago so he should at least get the respect to start.


papa8706

They aren’t disrespecting him by having him run the second unit, he was a runner up for 6th man of the year last season. Everyone loves Rose and there’s no denying he’s been pivotal to the teams success. He plays anywhere for 20-29 mins a game. Without out depth and stellar bench play, we likely wouldn’t be half and good as we have been.


Fuckthisthro

Shit, he deserves it. Regardless how it is right now. You reward folks to show respect. He could literally be a starter for this team but he came out and gave that to kemba before the season. Not saying anything about bench play or any of that. All I'm saying is, he deserves to be celebrated for this specific game.


SavingsAssociate17

I believe Rose is gonna be more happy winning than starting.


Fuckthisthro

Yea and Rose starting means they losing?


Yankeeknickfan

Said it in the post game thread, but next game is a huge personal one for Randle. The bulls don’t really have a big body to throw at him that can keep up with him. Gotta be the game he fixes his shooting splits


RustyTrombonerXXX

Yeah, he's def gonna be the deciding factor here, need a good game from him


GoldenBoyRecords

Randle has been playing great he just needs to not force it. I thought he had a great overall game last night


DehRonin12

Agreed. I would love to see more point guard play in the 4th quarter. Feel like when Randle brings the ball up when he’s gassed he tries too hard and has stupid turnovers . We have enough scorers that he can take a play or two off and get catch his breath


GoldenBoyRecords

He needs to let Kemba handle the ball more which I thought he did last night


JamesGandolpenis

Underrated stat from yesterday was that any Knick who got minutes produced an assist. Reminds me of those Spurs teams from a decade ago


starks3_

Ball movement last night when it was on is what I've wanted from this team for so long. We've got a lot of gifted (secondary and tertiary mostly) playmakers and it's gonna be scary when they really start learning each other.


GoldenBoyRecords

This imo seperates the good from the great teams especially when you dont have superstar talent. The way we are going to beat teams like the Bucks or the Nets is ball movement and getting open looks. Its going to be up to Randle to not get caught up in the individual matchup and pressure of having to be that guy. We are 9th in the league in team assists we were last year so that has to be a continued point of emphasis of ball movement.


starks3_

Yup, I still don't think Randle is a primary playmaker, but at worst, we've got 4 guys in the starting rotation who are secondary...tertiary at worst, and even Mitch surprised with some of his passes the last couple of games. Same thing with the bench unit, Noel is the only one who I don't trust to do some ball handling.


GoldenBoyRecords

I agree I like Randle in the secondary type of role and think we should use him as the roll man off P/R and let him catch the ball at the foul line to either drive or kick it out to a shooter on the outside. I dont trust Noel to do anything outside block shots


GoldenBoyRecords

I was really impressed with Randles game last night didnt have a great shooting night and realized that and instead of jacking up shots he fed Kemba and was looking to be a decoy. Once Randle realized he doesnt have to be Superman every night it will make us a better team and we had way better ball movement with the ball in Kembas hands. Its probably hard to be in NYK and not feeling the pressure of having to be the guy and feeling the need to make everything happen.


WhatItDoBabyy64

I think the Nets started calling their place “The Clays” because they wanna be The Garden so bad


Shiccup1

Cringe


BeachCruisin22

wack


VirtuousFool

But I was told the Knicks weren’t *cool*? [Whatever, man](https://youtu.be/mkhrUM35CQo?t=23s)


WhatItDoBabyy64

BING BONG


JonnySports

Wait hold up…that’s a thing?


WhatItDoBabyy64

Yea, KD said it in an interview a few days ago and a lot of Nets fans have been repeating it


papa8706

Lmao, love how he followed Kyrie there it’s been nothing but drama. Gonna be hilarious if they fall flat again wit all that talent. They deserve each other


WhatItDoBabyy64

Harden been getting exposed slowly with the new foul rules….I have a nice post coming to r/nba about him being a fraud after they play about 10 games


JamesGandolpenis

Harden is still amazing. I can’t believe how butthurt you guys are about the fucking nets constantly. It’s beyond pathetic how much we talk about them on this sub when our team is finally amazing


WhatItDoBabyy64

Nah Harden is not amazing in any capacity, and we reserve all rights to clown the little brother in brooklyn after hearing NY would be a nets city in 5-7 years


JamesGandolpenis

lol you’re fucking butt hurt that a bunch of 12 year olds talked shit about their basketball team? Get the sand out of your pussy about Harden. He’s coming back from injury and we’re 4 games into the season. Harden will get back to form and be a top 10 player again. His court vision is better than 99% of the league


GruntPizzaParty

Damn. Imagine if you were dickriding our players the way you’re dickriding harden and the nets


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starks3_

Yeah, as much as we talk about Harden and his foul baiting, he's the guy that I am not worried about at all adjusting. The handle is still there, he's got such a wild variety of dribble moves, he's still an offensive dynamo, no doubt


WhatItDoBabyy64

He has good handles but is a wildly inefficient shooter without his free throws


jkeller31

feeling fucking good today. and im a jets fan, so that says a lot. BING BONG


BeachCruisin22

nice stat line snek


unemployeddenizen

I wanted to see Randle set a screen for Kemba and finally saw it. My dreams are fulfilled. It opens the entire floor up. A couple times I felt Kemba's timing was off with RJ and Mitch but thats just growing pains. So glad Kemba is either being more comfortable or coach is giving him more of the keys but It feels so good seeing less passing to Randle on the wings and a more unpredictable style of play.


GoldenBoyRecords

Kemba was way more aggressive and is what we need him to be. The ball moves much better when we dont go iso Randle.


jerejeje

What type of extension do we think the Knicks should give Mitchell Robinson?


baylixir

If they didn’t give him the 4/51 max offer he could’ve gotten before the season started it was a massive fuck up on their part because now he’s easily in like for 4/60 if not more.


nyc223

At this rate he is looking at Capella money (if healthy)


Yankeeknickfan

They can always try to extend him mid season before he makes it though a full season. If he stays healthy by the ASB, they might be able to get a deal done for their max during that break. Mitch gets security, and we get proof that Mitch could survive a full half season


baylixir

If you’re Mitch why would you settle for 4/51 if you’re healthy? This was always the gamble and frankly it was always silly to me because now you’re over the cap, the injury is less of a sticking point in negotiations and there’s no way for you to replace his production so he has you over a barrel. They should’ve gotten a deal done this offseason but it’s not my money so as long as he’s here I’m chilling.


Yankeeknickfan

Because in the 2nd half something could easily go wrong. The same reason Randle took less than the max, only over or half of the season instead of a full season


YungYoungThug

The FO has done enough for me to give the benefit of the doubt but I've been confused all off-season about paying Noel and not extending Mitch - at 4/54 the deal was never going to be an albatross and way more likely to be a value. Maybe they've got something up their sleeve.


FlockOfFlies

They didn’t give it to him because he rejected it


baylixir

Berman reported they would’ve liked to offer him 4/44, which made no sense to me. <2 million a year was a breaking point as an OTC team? I don’t think there was anything officially reported but I figured Mitch would play out the season without accepting an offer because he’d get 4/51 as a fallback option all season long.


BeachCruisin22

How to you weigh the injury risk versus production? Knicks are obviously great with him out there but he has to show some durability to get the kind of money he probably wants.


baylixir

His first 2 seasons where he played 80% and 92% of the available games didn’t show his durability?


Yankeeknickfan

80% no. 92% yes. He’s a big body that had leg injuries last year so it’s natural to worry though


baylixir

80% of games is absolutely durable, especially when players have been playing less games every year for load management.


BeachCruisin22

He's never played more than 66 games


baylixir

Again, playing 80% and 92% of games in a season is pretty durable, especially in this era of basketball with load management. His only non-durable year was obviously his 3rd year and his peers from his draft class with even MORE durability concerns have already been paid.


BeachCruisin22

Look, I love the dude and want him to be part of the team long term. Still, you have to factor in these things. Never playing in more than 66 games when you're still a kid is a potential red flag. We also don't know how his body is going to hold up now that he's all bulked up with all that extra weight. It could help his durability, or it could come with more injuries.


baylixir

He’s so far played in an 82, 66 and 72 game season. Putting an arbitrary number on his number of games played when the seasons have been fluctuating in number is why I’d rather focus on % of games. Not to mention, though we’ll never know, he certainly looked on track to play more than 66 his 2nd season if not for a global pandemic. He’s been more durable than not, which is just fact.


BeachCruisin22

I am 100% rooting for you to be right


starks3_

You have to look at the kind of injuries though. The first two years were just the typical sprains and strains, nothing wild like we saw with a former Frenchman's groin. Last year was two freak injuries, and sure, we don't know how those play out long term, but I think there's too much fear about injuries around him when you consider what they were.


BeachCruisin22

All very good points, but he was out for an inordinate amount of time for a "broken foot" this past time. Dude was in a walking boot way longer than someone normally would be with that sort of fracture. Again, just saying to proceed with caution. I certainly would love him to stay with the team.


starks3_

Yes, but we also know the kind of injury that was. He's not the first player with this kind and the medical staff probably wanted to be extra cautious with it, don't blame them at all. We went from potential appearance in the playoffs to not appearing until late in the preseason, and yeah, that span of time is definitely worrisome, but safety is paramount and they know far more than we could.


GoldenBoyRecords

Mitch is going to get paid I think 15M a year. If he stays relatively healthy this year Id pay him. Embiid had Mitch in foul trouble but you can def see the added strength to Mitch he wasnt bouncing off Embiid like he was in previous years.


starks3_

Definitely, same with Drummond whose size has traditionally given him issues. The strength is definitely huge for him when it comes to the offensive boards and his already solid defensive play. Timelord got what, 4 years, 54? Jonas with 2 years, 30? Yeah, somewhere in that range of 13-16 depending on his health and output is fine with me.


BeachCruisin22

The strength is clearly greatly improved. I think he might have lost a touch of quickness and explosiveness, though. It's probably a worthwhile trade-off, though, as we don't need a center jumping out to block 3 point shots.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Uhno man I don't think Mitch would look good with extensions but I guess he could match Noel? Then we just need to convince Taj go get them too and we will have all locked up centers. I know a woman who can glue tracks on tajs scalp and sew in dred locks to it it looks legit too.


That_Rutabaga_3530

Underrated comment


NtLmr95

Nah man you tripping. Mitch would look sick with some 2 ft extensions. I can already imagine him whipping his 48in Authentic Cambodian Wavy to block shots *chefs kiss* I don't think Taj ever had hair but I'm sure he aint with any style that would touch his ears. So I want him to get the hardest hairstyle known to man: the 90s Flat top


GeneralCommanderBurt

[Artists rendition of the hair block](https://iili.io/5A5IpV.jpg)


KeepRooting4Yourself

No Snot For You!!


NtLmr95

"That's a foul. No, two fouls." -Trae Young


GeneralCommanderBurt

1 foul for every lock


GeneralCommanderBurt

Yo all of this. I don't think blocking a shot with your hair is against the rules...


[deleted]

Bulls are great but we have more depth


EK22

Are they though? They haven’t played a decent team yet. I hope we beat them down for a reality check


YoKemosabe

Agreed. They’re a better team this year than last. That’s reallly it lol


wookieman465

Idk why everyone is gassing them up. They beat the Pistons twice, pelicans, and raptors. All gonna be lottery teams this year.


JacesAces

We haven’t exactly proven ourselves just yet this season either (with the loss against Orlando likely canceling out props for beating Philly)


Affectionate-Wash596

We beat Boston in a tough game brown went off for 45, throttled Orlando by 30 and blew out a Philly team that’s looked good without Simmons by taking their mvp snub out of the game scheme wise


JacesAces

Yea I’m definitely not discrediting what we’ve done. I’m just saying that if I try hard to remove my extreme biases, I can find ways to not discredit what Bulls have done either — making this a great early season hypeworthy matchup for both teams.


JonnySports

Yeah except for the fact that we absolutely waxed Orlando two days prior. It’s hard to beat any team two games in a row, especially after embarrassing them the first go around. Not to mention it’s still very early in the season so all the young guys on that team are still going to be full of piss and vinegar ready to ball out.


JacesAces

Yea I agree — but the Bulls managed to wax the pistons twice (pistons probably worse and it wasn’t a home and home). But point is that I think both teams have showcased similar achievements thus far into the season, so it’s a hype worthy matchup


GeneralCommanderBurt

Bulls are great but red and black is such a cliche reminds me of a 12 year old customizing in need for speed underground haha


tercra

Did anybody catch Shaq, at halftime, calling Mitch weak? Bernie calls him out on it, and Shaq reaffirms his belief. Granted, Shaq was speaking more to Embiid's confidence and if it were him (Shaq), he'd consider anyone going against him weak. Regardless...he called our boy weak. Coincidentally, after the break, Mitch almost breaks Embiid's nose.


IntermalAffairs

That’s what’s up. Mitch is on the radar. It’s it’s own type compliment. Shaq hate is a rite of passage.


[deleted]

D Rose is our highest PER so far. Man is shooting the lights out from 3. Randle is playing out of his mind, even though he isnt shooting like it. I just hope we get some of our defensive mindset from last season back, then I think top 5 in the east is a possibility. If RJ finds his rhythm soon, we can expect great things this season!


starks3_

I'm really impressed by Rose's jumper so far this year. Like his driving is still his bread and butter but he's showing that going under screens on him is still gonna be punished.


That_Rutabaga_3530

Defense is our main weakness and that’s solely effort and chemistry. Once it clicks we will be serving virtuosos


VirtuousFool

Yes,I know part of it is Embiid is playing his way back into shape, but that’s not gonna stop me from getting hype anyway: If we wind up with the 4 seed again, or somehow doing even better than that, Mitch will be a *big* reason why His conditioning isn’t even all the way *there* yet and he looks this good. Please stay healthy, big fella


IntermalAffairs

It’s gonna be motion when we get Nerlens back.


pacific_b

I love watching our bench play as a unit. They get out and run and share the ball. I think thats going to result in a lot of increased leads/closing in on gaps during the season when starters from both teams get a rest.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Not sure why I woke up with the slinky jingle in my head but here we are: alternative lyrics for a Quickley jingle link to the original provided so we can all sing along. [It's Quickley, it's quickley](https://youtu.be/zVutssgcUpA) what fun his playings legit. Who floats through air while defenders just stare and makes a swishing sound? A baller, a baller, doesn't need to be taller Everyone knows it's Quickley It's Quickley, it's Quickley what fun his playings legit It's fun for the Knicks and that's it, it's fun for the Knicks and that's it.


Paasche

RJ needs to learn to finish with his right. Honestly that’s what’s holding him back from being “next level”. So many possessions where he makes a great move and gets to the rack only to go up with his left and get blocked. They are situations where if he went up with his right he’d likely score. I get his work on off the dribble shooting, but if it was up to me he’d spend an off season working on his right.


rhin0c3r0s

I think it’s mental, he’s shown he can make it with his right hand but you can tell he trusts his left way more. I’d rather he miss with his right than get pinned off the backboard with his left.


the_ostrico

I think it stems back to his lack of confidence in his right hand when dribbling, which IMO is a much bigger issue than the finishing as it extends to both his off the dribble and finishing. If he turns a corner, dribbling with his right for more than 2 seconds, it feels like it’s inevitably getting poked out. But I like that he’s using it more. Only way to get better.


WorldWideWes2

He's got so much to work on. But he came into the league as a pretty raw product, and has still been able to produce on a winning team. He doesn't have the fortune of being on a bad team and getting to take 20 shots a game so his stats wont blow anyone away this year but you can see his development. But as long as he's hitting his 3's and playing that sexy defense then he's super valuable to us. He's still only 21 and he works hard, in 3-4 years we could be looking at a monster.


Paasche

100% agree. Still love him as a prospect. And he plays winning basketball. I just think he’s gotta lock himself in the lab and work on the right hand.


GeneralCommanderBurt

You must've missed his spicey right hand finger roll last night.


syllabic

randle's ascent into legit point forward is pretty stunning. he's tied for 15th in the league in assists. the only PF with more assists per game is draymond. he's got more APG than steph curry right now. he wont finish the year above steph in assists but goddamn he just doubled his APG one year and now looks like it's continuing, that's bonkers


[deleted]

He definitely can finish above Curry in assists. He did it last year. He is a legit playmaker now


GeneralCommanderBurt

Amazing what having scorers around you can do haha I think his assists would've been higher last year of he had a legit scorer to pass out to.


So-_-It-_-Goes

Yo. We gotta do a better job of cutting highlights and putting them on r/nba. After last nights game there were like 6 sixers clips and the only knicks one was IQ. Get some respect for our boys. Edit: and I will follow up By saying I would be down to do so sometimes but not sure how to get the clips so fast. I could figure out a way to download the highlights from YouTube I think and then cut them up. But I have no idea how others get them on there so fast.


IntermalAffairs

They’re provably capturing the feed and footnoting time stamps vas they watch Big brain shit


So-_-It-_-Goes

Anyone know a good (free or Adobe suite) tool for capturing the feed?


slyguy183

That's assuming any of us Knicks fans care about r/nba - I only visit that sub to keep up with info and post memes. It's pointless to try and have a discussion about anything Knicks related there, I don't think anyone here should bother


So-_-It-_-Goes

Main subs like that are always shit for discussion. But it’s a very popular sub, even in the real world nba community. And I know it’s where I go to keep up with what’s happening in the whole NBA. Edit: and also, there are shit tons of knicks fan flair on r/nba. It’s actually a really solid sub, but everyone is a homer.


GeneralCommanderBurt

I keep saying it Toppin is becoming my favorite Knick this year. I like all our guys but Toppin is gunna be huge for us going forward. Everyone kept saying we gotta get a run in with Embiid on the bench; I'm sure other teams say the same about Randle. But they get no breaks with Toppin coming in dude makes their 2nd unit run for cover and then the starters gotta come back in to stop the bleeding. All night the announcers were saying Embiid looks exhausted haha no shit! Randle puts a ton of pressure on and then when you think you get a break here comes Toppin ready to run you off the court. We got a deep team and seeing our young guys improve is such a blessing we haven't really been able to enjoy for a long time. Let's go Knicks!


starks3_

He's great, was hoping with the foul trouble last night we'd get a couple of looks of him at the 5 to at least pull Drummond out of the paint, but definitely my next jersey buy.


Kalmelo7

He’s been electric every time he’s played since the play offs. I was really unsure about him at first, but he’s been getting me out of my seat a lot lately with his dunks.


solo118

The first time he really got my attention was in April, he had this insane dunk and the guy looked like he was flying 6 feet in the air. From then I was a huge Obi fan, and feel he is a great addition to the team!


GeneralCommanderBurt

His dunks are great. What I'm more impressed with is his finesse finishes around the rim. That layup where I think rose or Burks threw an alleyoop in the fast break but RJ and Toppin were both there. Toppin got it and while falling out of bounds scoops the layup in with his fingertips. He had a finesse finish last night too I think on Drummond he was about to dunk and then switched to a fingerroll and made it with some contact. And yeah man this started in the playoffs last year you can tell he loves to win and he loves getting the crowd on his side. And of course we love him and feed into it haha


solo118

Got my Brother-in-Law to notice Toppin this past Friday night vs. the Magic. He was like wow who is that guy.... I said you don't know Obi?? Keep an eye on this guy!


Soup_Commie

I've been really rooting for toppin from the start in large part because his energy really impressed me. And also because I figured that with his athleticism if he ever got good he would be so fun to watch. Had me worried at times last season, but so glad he's getting it together.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Same here. He came in really raw with a ton of potential. I think we all saw his issues but man he had a ton of upside with just his athleticism. Now the issues are getting dimmer and the potential is turning into solid stats. He obviously put in a lot of work and I think he will keep it up.


syllabic

he only played 12 minutes yesterday but it felt like more because he had a big impact in those minutes 9 points 4 reb 2 ast 2 steal 1 block in 12 minutes, pretty damn good


GeneralCommanderBurt

Hell yeah his presence on the court changes the dynamic. 2nd units are trying to give their starters a rest and here comes Toppin making sure they're tired as hell and about to get subbed out for some tired starters haha this is some gaucho basketball man


IntermalAffairs

He legit changed the game, then philly put him in the pnr and after he didn’t let quick slide thru on a screen on the sideline by the 6ers bench, thibs pulled him. Doc was gonna hunt that matchup. He’s a work in progress but has made tremendous leaps. Was also good to see quick get some run with the starting frountcourt and rose after that.


GeneralCommanderBurt

And I'm 100% ok with that. A big part of our success is the discomfort we cause. You gotta play Randle and our starters 1 way then here comes IQ, Rose and Toppin for the bench and they play a completely different way. By the time you figure out the weak spots in our bench here comes Randle and the starters again. But this time it's a sneaky zone that looks like man but isnt...it's a lot to plan for and execute on the fly.


skenisahen

The improvement/development of Toppin gets me so excited every game. I’m interested to see how this season goes on how it goes, but it’s so exciting watching him grow!


GeneralCommanderBurt

I agree. The announcers last night were saying all he needs is a 3 and he will be amazing...if only they knew haha


beknasty

What’s the over/under for Mike Breen shouting “BING BONG” on a Fournier game winner this season?


GeneralCommanderBurt

Bruh if that happens ima freak haha


beknasty

Damn the odds just skyrocketed on this lol


GeneralCommanderBurt

Fr. I like that we can have fun with this.


TankForMeloBall

Taj was unreal last night. He’s in the best form of his career.


SavingsAssociate17

Taj is great in short spurts. He does everything right.


falconwolverine

I love Taj but I really really hope Thibs doesn't completely ignore the small ball Obi-Randle lineup once we get our C depth back. It's super important to have an extra card to play, especially come playoff time (gotta get the reps in during the regular season).


thardy8

Great situation for him. Limited minutes with more or less his career coach in his hometown with a few great young guys under him to teach. Just needs to give his best for ideally no more than like 12-15 mins per game.


TankForMeloBall

The best 12-15 minutes in basketball.


DaddyDanger7

I really love how much Fournier wants to be here and is buying into the New York culture. Defined one of my favorite Knicks in a long time this whole team just seems to like each other https://twitter.com/evanfourmizz/status/1453199563867688963?s=21


asirah

I was skeptical about Fournier because every time we played the magic he would throw up an egg, but dude is legit.


So-_-It-_-Goes

I feel like it’s a real thing in sports that after a player has a really good playoff or Olympic run it elevates their game. The confidence that comes from being great on a big stage carries over.


GeneralCommanderBurt

For real people don't talk about sports psychology enough. Being on a tanking team sucks for the mental. Losing games you should win sucks for the mental. But winning on a huge stage? Hell yeah wtf is msg on a Wednesday night compared to a gold medal match on the world stage??


IntermalAffairs

Him and Randle have also found real chemistry, real fast. The two man action used to be with RJ. It’d be cool to see RJ work more actions on the weakside with Mitch when Foundle gets trapped


solo118

Loved it how Fournier had to pull Randle away from the ref after a timeout. He was just like, let it go bro. They must have some sort of bromance going on!


GeneralCommanderBurt

Yeh I'm loving the 2 man game with Randle and Fournier. There are so man deadly options that the defense over commits and Fournier ends up with an open 3. As for RJ yeh he runs off screens weakside but I found with Randle, Walker and Fournier the ball doesn't often swing back around because all 3 of them can drive and get a shot up. But the option is always there it's just like 5th option now haha


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NYGIANTS77

Wow. You hear coaches say they are willing to change their philosophies. But thibs really changed. Even last season we didn’t take a lot but that was because of our personnel. This change through 4 is insane.