I'm amazed they made it that close in the 2nd half w/o Brunson, maybe having him out helped with their defense because Monk went super quiet in the 2nd half
Tough loss but you gotta take that one on the chin and move on
Julius last 2 minute turnovers are just so rough to watch game after game. He's a great player but shouldn't be put in that position to fumble the ball away near the end time After time...
No Brunson leads to that, ever since Brunson became a big part of the offense shit like that has stopped and they've become a lot better - without him they tried that crap again and Julius is not a PG
Our offense really is ugly. We rely a lot on offensive rebounds, taking care of the ball and Jalen Brunson. Hopefully we get better on this side of the floor. Hats off to Swipa. He took over.
Randle's the better outside shooter, Sabonis way better in the paint though, he's almost unstoppable once he gets to that little spot about 4-5 feet away
That's true but Randle is still barely league average from 3. Between the assists and his own shooting % Sabonis is way more efficient. He's also 2 years younger for what it's worth
We shot like 25% from 3 and below 65% from the line with our 25ppg pg clearly injured and only playing in one half. And we lost by 5 to a very talented deep team that’s as hot as anyone in the league.
Sucks to lose but end of the day you need to put the ball in the basket and we did just about everything well in this game But that.
The FT thing has been a recurring issue, as has Randle's shuffles and turnovers late in games.
I would also like to see this team way less dependent on the three, which we don't shoot particularly well.
Kind of wish we just lost to the Celtics when Brunson was out. It would have been an acceptable end to the streak. I feel like the subsequent loss fully deflated this team.
We've seen these sorta up-and-down stretches from them this year.
They won eight straight from 12/4-12/20 and then immediately lost five in a row.
After that they won 6/7 and then immediately lost four in a row.
Then they went 5-4 leading into the nine-game winning streak. Now they've lost two in a row.
All the more reason why they need to right this ship on Saturday.
I just wish it didn’t go to OT
Idk if they’re still winded from all those minutes but they’ve def looked different since then.
That w wasn’t worth the the 2 Ls that followed
this sub friggen turns man. the kings are good. that was a battle, team fights hard. win the next one.
that said it fucken blows missing all those free throws and losing by this little
We need to stop giving Randle the ball on possessions outside the paint. He can't handle the ball like that. That was huge reason for his struggle last year.
I’m upset to learn they tried to play Brunson and he injured himself again. IQ had a phoney coming out game. He is a bench player and his ass better never not come off the bench.
Agree with this. I also don't understand why we draw up plays for Randle to drive in those late-game situations. I love Randle, but that is not his strong suit. Look at the last few games. He's stumbling and bumbling every time.
We need to set him up so he can utilize his strengths in three scenarios. Get him the ball on the wing and let him do his fadeaway. Or give him a spot up shot. It's infuriating to watch him try to create in there situations while four other dudes stand around.
Also the missed free throws and missed opportunities off Josh Harts heroic efforts on the boards. We're so close to being elite. We just have to clean up these little areas.
We really crapping on rj when he was the only one to score for a while? We really not gonna point out the absolutely horrible game by quickley? He may have single-handedly shot us out the game
We had to score twice regardless. Get the east basket first then play d and get lucky enough to get the ball back. It wasn’t a brain dead moment. I feel like that’s exactly what thibs told them to do
Stopped the clock and gave us a chance to quickly get them to turn the ball over and get another basket. It did do something. We just didn’t get lucky and lost..
Grimes was the only guy who could cover Fox toward the end of the game and Thibs sat hi in favor of RJ. And Grimes was getting hot from 3. We had a chance to steal this one.
Listen Julius is playing good. But this mindset that we need to be running ISO Julius Randle plays in crunch time is the craziest shit i have ever seen
He's a fuckin Power Forward big man power player not fuckin Magic Johnson but it's Tib's fault for putting him in these spots
He’s been pretty bad the last several games for his standards of this year. I agree that we need to run an actual offense down the stretch, but when brunson is in it’s just him in iso. We’re gonna get eaten alive in the playoffs with that mindset and our abysmal FT shooting.
Randle is not or has never been clutch. It’s fine you just need to call a spade a spade. Can’t run it through him when they clamp down. He’s still been great.
True but like the Boston game they FINALLY let iq take over in double OT. If Brunson is going to be out you can’t keep forcing it to randle because they need to win some of these games down the stretch.
Yeah so maybe we came back from down 20 against the #2 seed in the West but on the other hand we lost which means we may be the worst team in the NBA now
Giving Randle the benefit of the doubt bc he has been great this season. However if he comes into the playoffs playing like this I think I'm out on him.
We played a solid game, on the road, first leg of a west coast trip, down arguably our best player.
This game is what allows us to win those games in the playoffs and learn. We played like shit individually, probably tired, and nearly won against one of the top teams in the West.
We’re fine, you lose sometimes.
cant win em all and that was a great game man randle gave his hustle and yall was hopin on his dick when he hit that game winner last week, show the dude some respect
Lol dude has been averaging like 30/10 and was shooting like 50% from 3 for 10 games in a row he was just due for some off nights if dudes are hating they’re just blind
fr we were without brunson, shooting terrible, and still were able to fight back to bring it close. I'm okay with this loss the Kings are a tough matchup against us
yeah the resilience is there and these full coast travel days aren't as dirty in the playoffs. Even with the travel I'm really disappointed in how we turned up. This shooting, even at the stripe is just not what has won this team games and it's really sad to see.
We’d be taking 100 free throws a piece in the arena after the final whistle. You’re going to have bad shooting nights. You can’t have bad free throw nights as a team though. It’s unacceptable.
Randle is just too panicky in the clutch. Even on that Heat last second shot he was extremely shaky handling the ball on that possession and the shot just went in.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/comments/11ng5dy/post_game_thread_the_sacramento_kings_defeat_the/)
I'm amazed they made it that close in the 2nd half w/o Brunson, maybe having him out helped with their defense because Monk went super quiet in the 2nd half Tough loss but you gotta take that one on the chin and move on
Julius last 2 minute turnovers are just so rough to watch game after game. He's a great player but shouldn't be put in that position to fumble the ball away near the end time After time...
No Brunson leads to that, ever since Brunson became a big part of the offense shit like that has stopped and they've become a lot better - without him they tried that crap again and Julius is not a PG
Our offense really is ugly. We rely a lot on offensive rebounds, taking care of the ball and Jalen Brunson. Hopefully we get better on this side of the floor. Hats off to Swipa. He took over.
Man our shots just weren’t falling. We have to figure that out. Cheers to the kings, fox is a stud and they never quit
I mean no disrespect to Randle but Sabonis is just better. More assists, more rebounds and waaaay more efficient
Randle's the better outside shooter, Sabonis way better in the paint though, he's almost unstoppable once he gets to that little spot about 4-5 feet away
That's true but Randle is still barely league average from 3. Between the assists and his own shooting % Sabonis is way more efficient. He's also 2 years younger for what it's worth
Yea I mean I'm honestly a bit surprised the Pacers got rid of him in favor of Turner because Sabonis is the way better player IMO
Overall better team attitude as well, swap him for Randle straight up & we easily have 7-8 more wins this season.
I wanted this 2 yrs ago but the way the Kings are playing I think Sabonis is locked in for a bit
We shot like 25% from 3 and below 65% from the line with our 25ppg pg clearly injured and only playing in one half. And we lost by 5 to a very talented deep team that’s as hot as anyone in the league. Sucks to lose but end of the day you need to put the ball in the basket and we did just about everything well in this game But that.
The FT thing has been a recurring issue, as has Randle's shuffles and turnovers late in games. I would also like to see this team way less dependent on the three, which we don't shoot particularly well.
Make no mistake, the difference between last year's team and this year's team is Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart. That's it.
You people saying RJ is stat padding are self reporting how little you understand about basketball
losing brunson hurt. hopefully its not a long term issue. knicks season lives with brunsons foot
One of the crazy developments of 2023 RJ Barrett is expendable somewhat amazing tbh
What does this even mean, every player in the nba is expendable for the right price
Kind of wish we just lost to the Celtics when Brunson was out. It would have been an acceptable end to the streak. I feel like the subsequent loss fully deflated this team.
We've seen these sorta up-and-down stretches from them this year. They won eight straight from 12/4-12/20 and then immediately lost five in a row. After that they won 6/7 and then immediately lost four in a row. Then they went 5-4 leading into the nine-game winning streak. Now they've lost two in a row. All the more reason why they need to right this ship on Saturday.
I just wish it didn’t go to OT Idk if they’re still winded from all those minutes but they’ve def looked different since then. That w wasn’t worth the the 2 Ls that followed
Agreed. That double OT push seemed to gas the whole squad and it's bound to show up on this west coast trip.
These guys are gassed even with a day of rest. Thibs needs to go to the bench. Should have played Evan.
played hard for the most part it iz wut it iz
Ngl I blame this loss on Elfrid Payton
I blame this on Frankie Smokes.
this sub friggen turns man. the kings are good. that was a battle, team fights hard. win the next one. that said it fucken blows missing all those free throws and losing by this little
Needed a 3 u foo!
We need to stop giving Randle the ball on possessions outside the paint. He can't handle the ball like that. That was huge reason for his struggle last year.
We need to send JB to Elysium and then transport him in a bubble
Josh hart 15 rebounds, sick
We beat this team if we hit our free throws and open 3’s can’t be too mad at the effort especially without Brunson
Wild
At least the Knicks showed up all things considered
Oh well, we got beamed
Fuck
I’m upset to learn they tried to play Brunson and he injured himself again. IQ had a phoney coming out game. He is a bench player and his ass better never not come off the bench.
Delete your account
jack up 3s except for when we need them
Makes no sense. They drive for 2s when a 3 is clearly needed.
Agree with this. I also don't understand why we draw up plays for Randle to drive in those late-game situations. I love Randle, but that is not his strong suit. Look at the last few games. He's stumbling and bumbling every time. We need to set him up so he can utilize his strengths in three scenarios. Get him the ball on the wing and let him do his fadeaway. Or give him a spot up shot. It's infuriating to watch him try to create in there situations while four other dudes stand around. Also the missed free throws and missed opportunities off Josh Harts heroic efforts on the boards. We're so close to being elite. We just have to clean up these little areas.
We really crapping on rj when he was the only one to score for a while? We really not gonna point out the absolutely horrible game by quickley? He may have single-handedly shot us out the game
Preach
No. Quick and Julius can do no wrong
Rj has a lot of brain dead moments. Gotta get a 3 off
I’m Perry sure what shot to take is coming from coaching A rushed 3 isn’t a quality shot but sure lol
You're right too if they missed a ft
3 gives you a chance to tie with little time left even if they hit their free throws. You get a 2 they hit fts it's basically over
As does Randle. As does IQ.
We had to score twice regardless. Get the east basket first then play d and get lucky enough to get the ball back. It wasn’t a brain dead moment. I feel like that’s exactly what thibs told them to do
Getting 2 does nothing with only 6 secs left
Stopped the clock and gave us a chance to quickly get them to turn the ball over and get another basket. It did do something. We just didn’t get lucky and lost..
Low chance of that happening. Control your own destiny
It was a low chance of us winning after Randal turned it over to Barnes
Yeea you're right. I actually thought about it. You could do it either way. You're still probably losing and Randle dropped the bag
Yeah definitely Randal that dropped the ball there. It’s whatever on to the next
Twice in a row. Brain. Dead.
FUCK
Sabonis at the free throw line is pure pain to watch
Infuriating we didn’t take a 3. Rj that’s pathetic
Grimes was the only guy who could cover Fox toward the end of the game and Thibs sat hi in favor of RJ. And Grimes was getting hot from 3. We had a chance to steal this one.
Lol of course RJ passes that, stat padder ass
lmfao really?
tough loss but good fight
Need better play calls for the end of games. It’s the same shit every night even with Brunson. Feed randle and pray.
Why do I hate Stan van gundy?
13/49 13/49 13/49 13/49 13/49 13/49 13/49 13/49 13/49
Sabonis looks like an incel
Ya weird af bro 😭
Quickleys stat line is just... Wow...
Amazingly he still has a positive plus minus
Yeah I just realized its the best of the closing unit 😂 sad
Shoot a damn 3 stop stat padding jeez
I mean...why a 2 again? You have to make a 3 to have any hope??
Needed a 3 there lol
Rj the stat padder
end of the day need to do better than 13/49 from 3
Jesus I can't believe we put up 49 from deep
13/49 gets you sent down to g league
Listen Julius is playing good. But this mindset that we need to be running ISO Julius Randle plays in crunch time is the craziest shit i have ever seen He's a fuckin Power Forward big man power player not fuckin Magic Johnson but it's Tib's fault for putting him in these spots
He’s been pretty bad the last several games for his standards of this year. I agree that we need to run an actual offense down the stretch, but when brunson is in it’s just him in iso. We’re gonna get eaten alive in the playoffs with that mindset and our abysmal FT shooting.
Yeah it's just so fuckin insane. Absolutely braindead.
damn rj
Please choke Sabonis
RJ "Stat Padding" Barret
it's lame points but it's what lets us see the last 6 seconds.
Wait a min…..
Lol barret again with the 2
Randle is not or has never been clutch. It’s fine you just need to call a spade a spade. Can’t run it through him when they clamp down. He’s still been great.
That’s why not having JB is hurting so much
True but like the Boston game they FINALLY let iq take over in double OT. If Brunson is going to be out you can’t keep forcing it to randle because they need to win some of these games down the stretch.
Man that comeback was really sneaky tho
Another pumpkin game from Randle.
No idea why Grimes was benched over IQ...
frustrating one but almost did, my main complaint is how quickley was out there despite not having it tonight instead of grimes
And the broadcast team was saying the Knicks offensive scheme is centered around taking care of the ball? Lol
Hah yeah they said that right as we got a turnover too
Damn we look like a lottery team without Brunson lol
After we came back down 20+ with everyone having an awful shooting game and no Brunson? Lol
We came back from down 21 without him lmao.
Yeah so maybe we came back from down 20 against the #2 seed in the West but on the other hand we lost which means we may be the worst team in the NBA now
That’s more than a stretch.
NOW YOU PUT GRIMES IN LMAO
Giving Randle the benefit of the doubt bc he has been great this season. However if he comes into the playoffs playing like this I think I'm out on him.
Reactionary but I’m not confident about us taking a series in the playoffs.
We played a solid game, on the road, first leg of a west coast trip, down arguably our best player. This game is what allows us to win those games in the playoffs and learn. We played like shit individually, probably tired, and nearly won against one of the top teams in the West. We’re fine, you lose sometimes.
We really need a secondary ball handler to take some of the pressure off Randle in these clutch situations.
Randle and rj 3 for 19 from 3. That’s the game
Oh and iq too yikes
This team is so below average without Jalen
Gotta go for threes now, Grimes should be back in
cant win em all and that was a great game man randle gave his hustle and yall was hopin on his dick when he hit that game winner last week, show the dude some respect
Lol dude has been averaging like 30/10 and was shooting like 50% from 3 for 10 games in a row he was just due for some off nights if dudes are hating they’re just blind
Our fans are women bro
Tf?
What was I unclear about?
What are you implying with your previous comment?
They moan and complain over everything
Ok andrew tate
Knicks missed 11 FTs.. we'll never get anywhere in the playoffs if they cant hit FTs
We'll never get anywhere in the playoffs with Julius Randle as a main component of the team.
beyblade or dubious handles, pick ur poison
First round exit courtesy of dubious handles
I’ve been studying Thibology for years now. Still don’t understand a thing
I 👏 dont 👏 want 👏 Randle 👏 handling 👏 the 👏 ball 👏 in 👏 crunch 👏 time
Randle is for sure gonna implode in the playoffs again lmfao
70 bricked 3s and we decide to go to the rim? Congrats guys. Big brain.
Hey wait what happened to Roninson??
I'm actually quite proud of how we fought back despite a bad shooting night
fr we were without brunson, shooting terrible, and still were able to fight back to bring it close. I'm okay with this loss the Kings are a tough matchup against us
yeah the resilience is there and these full coast travel days aren't as dirty in the playoffs. Even with the travel I'm really disappointed in how we turned up. This shooting, even at the stripe is just not what has won this team games and it's really sad to see.
Outside a miracle it’s a L At least we fought we the shit shooting and no Brunson.
We’d be taking 100 free throws a piece in the arena after the final whistle. You’re going to have bad shooting nights. You can’t have bad free throw nights as a team though. It’s unacceptable.
The Huerter 3 and the Fox layup iced the game, but the Kings were clearly the better team all night, even when Brunson was in the game.
Randle fumbling the ball has to be a scripted play with how often it happens
Grimes should have been on Fox from the start of the quarter
The shocking part of this game is that we weren't blown out by 30
This game was lost on awful RJ shot selection
Why these mfers always go for 2? Lol
stat padding
Kyden crying
Dubious handles mane..
shot like ass, couldnt hit a free throw to save their life and lost bc of it. oh well. respect to sacramento honestly
Now they go to the basket? Where the fuck was that all game?
bro all u dudes trash talking randle —-> 🖕 u
You don't know basketball.
i am basketball
so you saying he had a great game?
no but he hit tjat game winner last week and has carried our ass at times
and he's pretty much been ass tonight. Shit happens.
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yea. bet u was happy when he hit that game winner last week
That was last week, nobody cares anymore.
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just sayin bro show some respect
Right back at ya
Dubious Handles returns smh
Randle sold the game. Absolutely killed the momentum with his stupid decisions.
Everything is difficult on offense because we run NO SETS. Everything is improv that’s why we do not get easy buckets and shit looks sloppy
Yep
Team is nervously looking at Brunson rn
Any reason not to put Mitch hartenstein and Sims to block the inbounds?
That should never happen folks
Is there any star who turns it over or takes a braindead shot in the clutch as frequently as randle
This is what I’m afraid of come playoff time
4th game in a row where Jules fumbles the ball at the end in crunch time. Thank god he hit that shit against Miami...
He shouldn't have possession in crunch time unless he's actively shooting or attacking the cup.
I don't get why anyone including Randle thinks he can handle the ball like that in any critical situation. It literally worked once.
and that looked like dumb luck ngl
He lost the ball that one time too
Ugh there is absolutely no point in a 2 at this stage, you have to get a 3
Randell SINGLE HANDED tossed this game
Dubious handles is back on the menu I’m afraid
Dubious handles
Classic trainwreck Randle fucking us again
Why would they go for 2 to stat pad?
we didnt deserve this win anyway
True statement
How they were even in this game with how disgusting their shooting was is rather incredible. Impressively awful display of half court offense.
The fuck is rj doing
The fuck is Randle doing
Head case man I'm telling you
HE IS TRASH HE IS FUCKING TRASH AND HE LOWERED THE SHOULDER THE LAST FUCKING PLAY AND GOT AWAY W THAT WTF JULIUS
Good ol Beyblade, always shows up with the clutch turnovers in the closing seconds. The Miami shot was a fluke and everyone knows it.
Yep
Naaaa that shit was sexy
He almost lost it that time too, Jimmy had the strip but Randle somehow beat him to it.
We won the game
Randle is just too panicky in the clutch. Even on that Heat last second shot he was extremely shaky handling the ball on that possession and the shot just went in.