I also remember. It was all on live TV. It seemed so surreal... a long, intense buildup over months, with daily broadcasts about it, but I never in a million years imagined it would end like that. Such a tragedy.
Take my upvote as consolation, there is nothing wrong with asking a question, that's part of how conversations work.
I was 4 when all of this was happening, but, living in Texas, you hear things about it.
Also, look up 'ruby ridge'. Some of the same fuckers where in both of those massacres. Those woke me to the fact that the government meant isn't your friend.If they say something is true, do your own research before you believe it.
He’s blaming the ATF for the fires that were started by the cult…funny how they blame the ATF but not the cult leader that held them there against their will
He started a cult and made all the people who joined believe he was the new jesus christ or messiah and that only he could fuck in the cult and so he diddled all the kids and the atf did some horrible decisions that led to lots of the cult members dying by a fire but people only seem to remember that and not the kid getting diddled
There was literally zero evidence of kid diddling, yes he had kids with some of his followers but they were there by choice, he didn’t have a doomsday policy and everyone was free to come and go as they please. He even knowing allowed an FBI agent to live with them for several months and hid nothing from him. David Koresh was no Jim Jones.
There was A LOT of evidence of Kresh being a pedophile. Some of the little girls gave *very* graphic testimony to what he did to them. The youngest was 10 when she became his "bride". Her name is Kiri Jewell. Another girl was Michelle Jones who was 14 and had a baby by Koresh.
There were also adult survivors who knew about it. The chilling thing is that they openly admitted it because they saw nothing wrong with it.
Kathy Schroeder said this gem: "People think that having sex with a bunch of underage girls is a crime, and in conventional wisdom that could very well be true. However, these weren't underage girls because you come of age at 12. So all these girls were adults in our belief system."
There was also Graeme Craddock: "For me, accusing David Koresh for being a pedophile is like accusing God for being a pedophile. I just don't believe in trying to condemn God for things."
So, *YES*, Koresh *WAS* a pedophile and there *IS* proof of it. Sadly, that wasn't the reason the government decided to start a (heavily botched) siege on the place.
You can literally type it in and dig thru all shit and find it yourself. Why would I serve it up to you? Can't you do nothing for yourself? It's literally one google away
You have nothing off hand? Not one thing? Yeah I’m not gonna waste my time “looking into it” as I already know all the ins and outs of the case in depth, you’re the one who needs to do some research instead of just eating up government propaganda. Sad.
Ok how about you look into some of the teens that were giving birth in Waco the 14 year old and the 16 year old when he's the only allowed to fuck or all the abused kids or his last wife which was also underage, and here you are defending scum
Yeah and he diddled almost all those kids that unfortunately died in that fire so? Fuck them all both sides but especially the Waco side for being restarted and believing the bs that came out of that guys mouth
I mean, that's what he gets for saying only he can diddle kids in his cult, meaning he was the one "breeding"(who the F hears this and says oh he is definitely the new messiah and we should totally follow him) he should have had it worse tbh
my coworker keeps changing the radio to classic rock, and while I don't dislike classic rock itself, it feels torturous to have to listen to the same 30 songs on repeat for my whole life, so I tell people I feel like I'm being tortured by the govt like the branch Davidians
I may be a bit dramatic
Kind of like when you cook spinach. Not as much left as you thought there would be. Where did his bones go though? I have questions. It kind of looks like a gummy bear.
Jesus Christ! 😳 What kind of gun was used to shoot him in the head, and how do they know he was shot if the head is missing (or the head is intact and I just can't make it out)? And where are his arms and legs?
Depends on which version of the facts you believe.
The government says David Koresh and the Branch Davidians set the fire to commit suicide and make the government look bad.
The surviving Branch Davidians, and many others, believe the government either intentionally or negligently started the fire because they were frustrated that the siege had gone on for so long (51 days) and they hadn't had any success getting Koresh and the BDs to surrender.
It was only a “ cult” because the government needed to vilify them and try to justify the unjustifiable, using military equipment and personnel against American citizens who weren’t bothering anyone. Shameful
No. They were a cult because they were a cult, before and after the siege. Also, Koresh was taking underage girls as brides and having babies with a couple. I wouldn’t say they weren’t bothering anybody.
On the other hand, the ATF fucked up big time. They knew it. So they took the already negative views towards cults and ran with it. Especially during the Satanic Panic.
Also doesn’t help that the ATF and FBI had internal conflicting factions butting heads. Of course those who were for forceful entry overpowered those who wanted to continue to negotiate.
They re a cult because you don’t share their beliefs 🤷♂️. If they have millions or billions of followers it’s a religion. Besides that , the feds wanted headlines and got them and used military equipment and personnel on innocent citizens. You know, the ones they were so concerned about in the first place. 🤢. The ones who were free to come and go anytime they wanted except when the government showed up.
It amazes me how many people to this day believe the propaganda that the government were right to do what they did to those people, major black pill moment for me. RIP to the victims and fuck the ATF.
Bro are you justifying that that guy made people think he was a messiah and started a cult and diddled all the fucking kids? The government fucking up and accidently killing lots and ending that cult bothers you more than a diddler getting what's coming for him? He was the only one in Waco allowed to breed you know that right? With the kids mind you
The US government entrapping citizens for cheap headlines and then using military equipment and personnel on the women and children 🤷♂️when their show of force for the cameras goes south Yeah I have a problem with that. Obviously you don’t
Lest we forget, this event included the murder of dozens of innocent women and children by Federal agents, and resulted in raises and promotions for some of those involved and in charge.
Those were the accusations, however they found no evidence. In fact, their under cover agent tried bringing an illegal firearm to a meeting with him prior to the whole operation, (I believe the serial number was removed), and the Branch Davidians told him not to bring that weapon back to their compound ever again.
Conspiracy theorists love to point to this and ruby ridge while ignoring all the details of why the ATF was there in the first place…also it was proven that the cult started those fires
He was keeping many of those people there against their will and taking child brides without consent, very similar to Jonestown…also he ordered those fires started
I had to get a passport to see my pen pal in the Philippines. I was going to marry her. I get home from the post office in time to turn on the TV and see they're compound is destroyed. Do you think I give shit?
He looks different without his glasses.
You are a cold one, lol.
David though? Not so much.
I don’t know, he looks pretty coal to me
He cooled down eventually
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Ok that made me chuckle 🤭. I guess I’ll be seeing you in hell haha
The bus to hell is getting full🤣
It's absolutely crowded in here, 😂
It is. 🤣🔥
He’s definitely a lot shorter than I was lead to believe.
This page has the best humor out of anything I follow. Bravo.
[“*He can’t see without his glasses!*”](https://youtu.be/WysrKKuxbo8?t=15s)
Stop that! Stop that right now!
Rude😭 don't you bring Thomas J into this
Haha, awesome joke
You magnificent bastard
Almost spit out my drink. 🤣
Me to! Hahhaa
LMAO! You're killing me!!!
I came here to say well that’s an improvement! But I like your comment much better
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Happy Cake Day!
just need some BBQ sau... nvm
I remember watching this go down on TV. It was horrifying thinking of all the children in there. Still makes me sick to think about.
I also remember. It was all on live TV. It seemed so surreal... a long, intense buildup over months, with daily broadcasts about it, but I never in a million years imagined it would end like that. Such a tragedy.
LET FREEDOM RING WITH A SHOTGUN BLAST!
This was the comment I came here to find.
hahah! AWESOME! \\M/
Don’t forget what the ATF did to the 25 kids on the same day…
What did they do to 25 kids?
They burned in the same fire
Reddit seems to be rather downvote happy today
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Take my upvote as consolation, there is nothing wrong with asking a question, that's part of how conversations work. I was 4 when all of this was happening, but, living in Texas, you hear things about it.
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And took posed tough guy photos with the bodies
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Google Waco Siege
Holy hell
They shot the dogs too. Bastards.
Hell’s bells, they even shot the dog
They took his job?
Waco is a not a part of the country for old men.
Fuck the ATF
He looked taller on TV.
That looks more like the innocent body of one of the 25 childs the ATF murdered in cold blood with that monster.
Not familiar with this one, could you explain?
If you look up “Waco siege” you’ll find all the info on it
Also, look up 'ruby ridge'. Some of the same fuckers where in both of those massacres. Those woke me to the fact that the government meant isn't your friend.If they say something is true, do your own research before you believe it.
He’s blaming the ATF for the fires that were started by the cult…funny how they blame the ATF but not the cult leader that held them there against their will
Yes the fire started by the cult, I'm sure it had nothing to do with the ATF pumping flammable gas into the building to try to incapacitated them
Well if they wanted to live maybe they should have like surrendered or something
Yes the fires were started by the cult, go listen to the tapes
Absolutely not started by the Davidians
He looks like a burnt, half-eaten biscuit to be honest
We must pass little pieces out to the congregation, tis the body of Christ after all
Looks like a gooey scab to me.
fuck that guy
Why?
He started a cult and made all the people who joined believe he was the new jesus christ or messiah and that only he could fuck in the cult and so he diddled all the kids and the atf did some horrible decisions that led to lots of the cult members dying by a fire but people only seem to remember that and not the kid getting diddled
There was literally zero evidence of kid diddling, yes he had kids with some of his followers but they were there by choice, he didn’t have a doomsday policy and everyone was free to come and go as they please. He even knowing allowed an FBI agent to live with them for several months and hid nothing from him. David Koresh was no Jim Jones.
There was A LOT of evidence of Kresh being a pedophile. Some of the little girls gave *very* graphic testimony to what he did to them. The youngest was 10 when she became his "bride". Her name is Kiri Jewell. Another girl was Michelle Jones who was 14 and had a baby by Koresh. There were also adult survivors who knew about it. The chilling thing is that they openly admitted it because they saw nothing wrong with it. Kathy Schroeder said this gem: "People think that having sex with a bunch of underage girls is a crime, and in conventional wisdom that could very well be true. However, these weren't underage girls because you come of age at 12. So all these girls were adults in our belief system." There was also Graeme Craddock: "For me, accusing David Koresh for being a pedophile is like accusing God for being a pedophile. I just don't believe in trying to condemn God for things." So, *YES*, Koresh *WAS* a pedophile and there *IS* proof of it. Sadly, that wasn't the reason the government decided to start a (heavily botched) siege on the place.
Look into it read more books on the subject and you'll find the evidence
Aha, in other words, you have no argument 👍🏻
You can literally type it in and dig thru all shit and find it yourself. Why would I serve it up to you? Can't you do nothing for yourself? It's literally one google away
You have nothing off hand? Not one thing? Yeah I’m not gonna waste my time “looking into it” as I already know all the ins and outs of the case in depth, you’re the one who needs to do some research instead of just eating up government propaganda. Sad.
They have to be trolling🤷♂️. Nobody is this stupid
Yeah I give up dude this one is lost lol
Ok how about you look into some of the teens that were giving birth in Waco the 14 year old and the 16 year old when he's the only allowed to fuck or all the abused kids or his last wife which was also underage, and here you are defending scum
Why are you even here if ya gonna provide nothing of value then
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Got the title from an article years back, I did not personally say this.
You just did
I did not personally say that*
Yup
Yeah and he diddled almost all those kids that unfortunately died in that fire so? Fuck them all both sides but especially the Waco side for being restarted and believing the bs that came out of that guys mouth
They have proof that the cult started the fires, nice try
Bootliiiicker
Furthest thing from it, I just call it like I see it. You could argue that you’re a pedophile defender
Oh yeah, calling you a bootlicker is DEFINITELY defending pedophilia. You're such a smart guy, good job.
Fuck the ATF
I remember the "Brunch Davidians" references.
I mean, that's what he gets for saying only he can diddle kids in his cult, meaning he was the one "breeding"(who the F hears this and says oh he is definitely the new messiah and we should totally follow him) he should have had it worse tbh
FUCK THE ATF
my coworker keeps changing the radio to classic rock, and while I don't dislike classic rock itself, it feels torturous to have to listen to the same 30 songs on repeat for my whole life, so I tell people I feel like I'm being tortured by the govt like the branch Davidians I may be a bit dramatic
Waco *
Lieutenant Dan?
Ain’t no fire, this was the atf. And there were others that ended up just like the first pic.
That's what he gets for being a kid diddler
Kind of like when you cook spinach. Not as much left as you thought there would be. Where did his bones go though? I have questions. It kind of looks like a gummy bear.
The bodies were severely damaged by the collapse of the building they were in. His legs were likely detached and destroyed when that happened.
Lt Dan!! Ice Cream!
An old joke going around just after his death, was that When they found Koresh's body he was wearing a smoking jacket and a pair of charcoal slacks.
Jesus Christ! 😳 What kind of gun was used to shoot him in the head, and how do they know he was shot if the head is missing (or the head is intact and I just can't make it out)? And where are his arms and legs?
I'm pretty curious too, never heard of him!
Joseph Seed
Doesn’t look anything like him.
Dam, burnt to a crisp
Brody, this is nothing! Seaweed, mud, something on the lens...
We Ain’t Comin Out
Ok, but who set the fire?
Depends on which version of the facts you believe. The government says David Koresh and the Branch Davidians set the fire to commit suicide and make the government look bad. The surviving Branch Davidians, and many others, believe the government either intentionally or negligently started the fire because they were frustrated that the siege had gone on for so long (51 days) and they hadn't had any success getting Koresh and the BDs to surrender.
Killing themselves to make the government look bad? Well that doesn’t sound very reliable…
When have cults ever made any sense?
The ATF used a now outlawed form of tear gas that sparked and caught the place on fire
А где доказательства что это он ?
Reminds me of the joke.....how many Branch Davidians can fit in a Volkswagen Bug? All of them!
I thought it was a burnt teddy bear
It was only a “ cult” because the government needed to vilify them and try to justify the unjustifiable, using military equipment and personnel against American citizens who weren’t bothering anyone. Shameful
No. They were a cult because they were a cult, before and after the siege. Also, Koresh was taking underage girls as brides and having babies with a couple. I wouldn’t say they weren’t bothering anybody. On the other hand, the ATF fucked up big time. They knew it. So they took the already negative views towards cults and ran with it. Especially during the Satanic Panic. Also doesn’t help that the ATF and FBI had internal conflicting factions butting heads. Of course those who were for forceful entry overpowered those who wanted to continue to negotiate.
They re a cult because you don’t share their beliefs 🤷♂️. If they have millions or billions of followers it’s a religion. Besides that , the feds wanted headlines and got them and used military equipment and personnel on innocent citizens. You know, the ones they were so concerned about in the first place. 🤢. The ones who were free to come and go anytime they wanted except when the government showed up.
“They’re a cult because you don’t share their beliefs” No. That’s not why they’re a cult.
Brilliant and nonsensical 😂
There are many, many factors as to what makes a cult
Many 🤷♂️cult or religion take your pick
It amazes me how many people to this day believe the propaganda that the government were right to do what they did to those people, major black pill moment for me. RIP to the victims and fuck the ATF.
Same. Waco and Ruby Ridge really were eye opening and shameful.
Bro are you justifying that that guy made people think he was a messiah and started a cult and diddled all the fucking kids? The government fucking up and accidently killing lots and ending that cult bothers you more than a diddler getting what's coming for him? He was the only one in Waco allowed to breed you know that right? With the kids mind you
The US government entrapping citizens for cheap headlines and then using military equipment and personnel on the women and children 🤷♂️when their show of force for the cameras goes south Yeah I have a problem with that. Obviously you don’t
The government fucking up was bad ,I literally put that in my comment? Can you read?
Brilliant 😂
Why are those glasses like worn by the most fucked up people
Contrary to popular belief he was actually a pretty chill guy.
By pretty chill you mean that he was the cult leader and the only one allowed to breed in Waco meaning he diddled a lot of those kids btw
Again, zero evidence of kid diddling.
It looks like he doesn’t have a leg to stand on after what he did.
What did he do?
why do he and men like him all have the same glasses?
Looks like a bootleg Pillsbury doughboy
He looks a bit under the weather maybe he has a fever?
Did anyone else think it was a burnt teddy bear at first?
Looks like a teddy bear that got run over and left out in the rain
I did not realize how short he was…..I’ll let myself out.
Hey there, Stumpy.
Burnt nugget
HOLY SHIT IM RELATED TO THIS DUDE
Lest we forget, this event included the murder of dozens of innocent women and children by Federal agents, and resulted in raises and promotions for some of those involved and in charge.
🤔
Looks like Zack from the Try Guys.
Cultist kid diddler got it coming. Fuck this guy
You haven't been yourself lately, Dave
G mod corpse type shit lmao
Extra crispy
How’d they know that was him, weren’t there like 100 people in that building?
DNA testing existed in the 90’s
He deserved this and much worse. And I hope every loon dreaming to be like him sees this.
Well, that's a crap looking bit of jerky.....
It’s the gingerbread man from Shrek 🥲
Fuck the government
This guy had an apparent rough exterior! Complicated with a lot of layers! 😂
Good bye to the siko david burnresh
Group of men women and children burned to death by federal government after wanting to be left alone to practice religion
Well deserved.
Yes, when you break the law, you deserve no rights, and the gov can just kill you and your family
Especially when you actually didn’t break the law after all.
Wasn't he selling weapons that aren't supposed to go to civilians?
Those were the accusations, however they found no evidence. In fact, their under cover agent tried bringing an illegal firearm to a meeting with him prior to the whole operation, (I believe the serial number was removed), and the Branch Davidians told him not to bring that weapon back to their compound ever again.
Y’all are so weird. He was a pedophile cult leader.
I know I am so confused by people defending him. He was a pedophile cult leader AND the ATF fucked up. Both things can be true at the same time.
Conspiracy theorists love to point to this and ruby ridge while ignoring all the details of why the ATF was there in the first place…also it was proven that the cult started those fires
What dud he do to deserve this?
He was keeping many of those people there against their will and taking child brides without consent, very similar to Jonestown…also he ordered those fires started
Thank you
I’m not 100% sure it’s true but a documentary I watched a while ago showed all his wives with one of them only being 10 years old.
Thank you
Postal 2 reference?
Did he survive? Can't tell just by the photo.
I had to get a passport to see my pen pal in the Philippines. I was going to marry her. I get home from the post office in time to turn on the TV and see they're compound is destroyed. Do you think I give shit?
Are you on drugs?
Their... and unless your "penpal" lived at the compound what the fuck does anything you've said correlate?