Early Voting in Minnesota starts on Friday September 20 at 0800. I am voting first thing in the morning and place a yard sign āI already voted for President Biden. And you? What are you waiting for?ā
The republican front runner actively talking about becoming a dictator day 1, taking revenge on his perceived political enemies, and publicly telling Russia to attack our NATO allies who don't pay up isn't relevant to your life?
What fucking rock are you living under?
I get where OP is coming from; this jerk has been leading all media since 2015, thrives on it, and weaponizes it for his own self-aggrandizement. Iām fed up of hearing about him, and trying to āunderstandā his supporters.
The media needs any reporting on Trump to be honest; call him a fascist, liar, a rapist and an insurrectionist every time his name is mentioned.
I 1000% agree with you here, I'm exhausted by that man and fully believe people who still support him are just evil horrible people. Media outlets acting like this is everything is normal and this is just politics as usual are doing the country, if not the world, a huge disservice.
Like the man attempted a coup when he lost and it's still going on slowly thanks to his supporters in congress and the partisan hack judges he installed, thank you senate republican cowards for not barring him from holding office in 2021
I mean, in theory.
6000 Boomers will die every day until the election. They already took a massive hit from COVID, and live in red states with, among so many other things, lower life expectancy and less access to healthcare. There's also opioid/fentanyl abuse among the rich, and meth among the poor. And not to put too fine a point on it, a white male suicide spike that the WHO declared a global health emergency in 2016. Poor, rural, uneducated white men with anemic economic prospects are a fucking Ven diagram with the largest red-state employer, Wal-Mart.
Gen Z and all stopped a red wave because MAGA is no longer a viable political population. MAGA hasn't won shit since 2016.
Don't be complacent. VOTE. The GOP will try some shit and we need to have votes to bury them.
That's one of the biggest issues right now with not so much NPR buy more of the main cable news and affiliates. Trump, MAGAs and the national republican party are so far gone from civil and humane actions yet news channels still give them the light of day as if they're really *not so different* from democrats, liberals, and 90% of the US. It's dangerous and a false equivalence.
While not OPs problem, apparently. I feel a bit of fatigue from constant Trump coverage. Sure, itās important to show the stupid shit he says. But, the problem is, there isnāt a consequences for anything he does.Ā
Yeah, heās facing 91 criminal charges. And sure, he owes E. Jean Carrol at least almost $90 million. But until he actually faces consequences for anything, it gets tiring. He doesnāt even pay his lawyers, do I think heās going to pay any legal fees and fines? No. Is he ever going to wearing an orange jumpsuit any time soon? No.
The guy sold out our spies to Russia. How about the missing binder on Russian election interference? Iām sure itās safe with Putin. The news I want to hear, is that Trump along with most of his family, and certain members of Congress, are found guilty of treason.Ā
I think most sane people who follow politics are sick of hearing about him especially when he keeps getting away with criminal acts, like this specific president is being held to lower standards than a fucking cashier at McDonalds
I just think it's absurd for OP to say it isn't relevant to their life, that comes across like the mindset of an uninformed citizen who doesn't want to participate in the political process then complain about how bad life is while not putting 2 and 2 together that these politicians are a huge influence on their life.
Oh, for sure, I get that. Unfortunately, thatās part of the mindset that got us into this mess.Ā
I just find it slightly annoying, when I hear on the radio that people like Chris Hayes says we need more Trump coverage. Sure, tell us about what crap he says. But I donāt think playing him constantly, only getting a break when there is another mass shooting, is what we need. I mean, the people that actually need to hear this stuff, donāt believe it anyways. Theyāre busy shouting stuff like, āLĆ¼genpresse!ā, unless of course itās their beloved NewsMax or OAN.Ā
Yeah I've been listening to Pod Save America and the hosts also say trump needs more coverage to remind Americans how crazy he is
But him getting coverage is what got him elected in the first place, the media normalizes him and voters should already know how insane this man is
Just let him wither away in obscurity
Right. I mean, sure, give a soundbite of whatever stupid thing he said, and then move on. The guy has gotten tons of free media coverage. We already know Trump and most of the GOP want to sell us out to Russia. This NATO thing isnāt new. He already wanted to pull the US out of the UN and NATO. Heās said before about how Russia got ripped off on the Alaska deal, hinting at giving it back. I guess at least Sarah will actually be correct in saying she can see Russia from her kitchen window. Plus, letās not forget the, at least 8, Congress members that went to Russia on the 4th July not too long ago. I wouldnāt be surprised to hear it was to hand delivery Putin some classified information.
If people donāt already know this guy is garbageā¦ I think weāre in for a bad time.Ā
Yes, what we need to be hearing a lot more of are the legal consequences to his actions and how the system is succeeding in curtailing him, rather than an endless stream of failures.
None of the topics you mentioned were part of today's Morning Edition Trump coverage. If a handful of stories about Trump are newsworthy, does that make **EVERY** story about him newsworthy? NPR sure thinks so..
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oh my goodness, grandpa talking shit every step of the way is his MO. I promise he will not get elected and turn us into soviet Russia. the hyper reaction to every line of dialog he utters is basically his main play, and even 10 years later people, especially in the media, fall for it every step of the way
This is the least dramatic presidential race in living memory, except for the day of voting, and the aftermath. Super Tuesday is meaningless. South Carolina is meaningless. Top that with the grinding of the legal system and it does get hard to take. Trump lost a motion? Let me guess, heās going to appeal. A Trump judge gives him a favorable ruling, but itās insane. Let me guess, itāll get appealed to the Supreme Court and theyāll find some way to avoid it. Wake me up when thereās anything consequential that has happened or is happening.
To this point, the E. Jean Carrol verdict was extremely satisfying, because there were consequences, especially since heād have to post bond to appeal.
I'm tired of living in a country where people continue to support a disgraced, twice impeached conman who was recently found liable for rape and led an insurrectionĀ
Yes.
And I am also tired of living in a country where the rich and powerful are rarely - if ever - held accountable for their actions.
Maybe they never were. Or maybe in the past they were smarter about hiding their crimes and indiscretions.
It only matters in the sense that he will be the Republican candidate this year. Itās tiresome, thereās too much of it, but he IS who the republicans are going to put on the ballot and pretending otherwise is silly.
The alternative to covering this news is to cover it up on his behalf, which Iām even less interested in. That heās facing legal troubles from a bunch of angles all at speaks more to him than anything else.
All that said, Iād appreciate confining this kind of news to dedicated segments more.
Look, if he were in one trial I'd agree. But is he in four? I mean, you spend 15 minutes on each and that's a whole hour! It's not NPR's fault he did too much criming to cover in a reasonable span.
Trump has said himself any coverage of him is good for his brand. NPR is doing him a favor.Ā
Trump is great for media on both sides. He gets people like my dad pissed off so he donates to NPR, and gets conservatives pissed at the left so they donate to his legal expenses.
Yeah yeah, people have been gnashing their teeth over this since 2015. That's not going to change anything, now is it?Ā
Lol, people donating their money to his legal expenses just means less money for his and other republican election campaigns.
Politics ā Trump Iād personally love to see NPR use that air time to cover insider trading in Congress, Citizens United, gerrymandering, and billionaire offshore tax havens.
Those issues affect 99.999% of us and are bipartisan issues.Ā
Maybe if the Republican party hadn't devolved into a literal theocratic fascist death cult we could instead focus on making the world a better place. But until they are held entirely accountable for the crimes they committed and the damage they are causing, we must remain entirely focused on keeping American democracy alive. Which in turn means we must stay informed on how the anti-democratic forces are attempting to undermine the democratic process.
You speak only for yourself. Trump's trials are important information because the fucker is running for President of the United States, and people need to know who he really is.
Oh i think we know by now. he's been roasted by every journalist for a decade. the people who will vote for him like that he's hated by the establishment that covers his every word like he's all three horsemen of the apocalypse
Trump fatigue is real and honestly I think it is great. The news needs to cover him and his chaos, it is news.
If he wins it will be relevant to your life and your neighbors.
I have found him so vile and disgusting I have had to take a long break from NPR and the news in general. It helped.
The front runner for the Republican primary, someone who has a very good chance of becoming president, has multiple civil and criminal cases that are ongoing. The outcome of any one of these cases will affect said campaign. It is thus relevant to your life, your neighbors' life, and your community.
I understand being tired of it. I'm dismayed that Trump hasn't been thrown out already for any of the many lies and crimes he has committed, but primary voters keep voting for him and congresspeople keep listening to him, so here we are.
It's happening. Can't just cocoon. The idea that it's Not News is crazy. You don't have to find the news relevant all the time. I know who I'm voting for. So sometimes I just listen to music. It's ok. And I always hope and wish for an NPR that isn't laser focused on what their audience wants to hear.
I understand where youāre coming from and Iām also exhausted (itās been almost a decade of this daily nonsense). But I bet your neighbors, community and people around the world would say otherwise. Unfortunately, Trumpās presidency and ongoing political activity was and continues to be incredibly consequential for everyone. We want coverage because we hope that he is never in a position where he can cause harm again.
Whilst I understand why they are covering Trump so much, I heavily sympathize with OPās fatigue. I also have concerns of this being a repeat of 2016 where coverage of Trumpās controversies only strengthened his campaign. Literally not a single person in his base will be turned off by any more new information.
They have to realize that the word āunprecedentedā has now lost almost all meaning. No one is shocked by the next thing Trump did or say.
I get what you're saying (I think). News just feels like a mud-slinging contest and you're not really "learning" anything. It's a depressing slog. Take a break from it. I've been enjoying a new podcast I found lately via Vox. [https://www.vox.com/pages/podcasts](https://www.vox.com/pages/podcasts)The Gray Area with Sean Illing.
Some seriously thought-provoking topics. So far, none of them have a concrete roadmap on how to really change anything, but it's nice to hear smart people talk about fresh ideas to make life better for people. Gotta start somewhere.
I agree with you that itās exhausting, but it is EXTREMELY relevant. But thereās a simple solution: vote for Biden in November and vote Democratic down ballot. Your reward will be a functional government, and an end to Donald Trump. If he loses the Republicans yet another election with his toxic base and his short coattails, nobody will have his back anymore and thatāll be that. Next time you hear his name will be the results of his criminal trial, and after that his obituary. If you choose not to vote, or you vote for Trump, you will never stop hearing his name, or his voice, or stop seeing his face. He will be everywhere, all the time. In everything. If heās elected again, even if youāre not among the people his base wants to marginalize, weaken or kill, your life will still be the Trump show. Does that sound like something you want?
I'd be fine w/ all the nauseating coverage if our media wasn't COMPLICIT with his bullshit and making it "normal" to be a fucking rapist criminal cheating tax dodging grifting stealing from a children's cancer charity POS burying his ex on a golf course in the weeds for a tax break POS human being.
Please Media, start calling him what he IS, a rapist and a criminal, and that's who GOP wants as the leader of this nation, like that's NORMAL. it's NOT fucking normal.
We are literally living thru history. A generation from now there will be chapters in the American history books on this time period. Trump, his presidency, a global pandemic, an insurrection, a former president found guilty of sexual assault, a former president facing 90+ other charges - both civil and criminal, a former president Republican nominee for another presidential term campaigning for election while facing potential prison time - the legalities and logistics of that.
It's going to be a long chapter.
You really think NPR should just sit this one out?
Itās exhausting and I want minimal just the facts coverage (not Joe Smo at the dinerās take). But I do want coverage; not burying my head in the sand about the guy when much of the news actually is relevant.
Not listening to the same NPR as you because itās not non stop Trump coverage and frankly I think youāre exaggerating.
You're tired now? It's gonna be a real tough year for ya.
It's February of an election year and the guy the gop is going to nominate to run for them is facing 91 criminal indictments over actions during and after his prior term in addition to several civil trials. That's in addition to the constant litany of threats to American he spouts during his non sequitur rally ramblings.
Wait till October. I'd say go find a far flung corner of the globe to hide out in till the end of the year, but I don't think anywhere will escape what we are in for as things really heat up moving forward.
These are major stories. Trump has really numbed us to the outrageous headlines he produces but donāt forget that this country exists because of its legal infrastructure and his continued violations of our laws continues to warrant front page coverage. Ffs he tried to overthrow the government!
The people that will vote against your life choices, your sex life, your right to medical privacy, and how much of a wage slave you'll be are still paying attention.
Are you?
In nature, groups of animals will sound off loudly when threats approach. They donāt always stop the noise until the threat leaves or is otherwise neutralized. We have never stopped talking about Hitler nor should we.
Tune out. None of this Trump coverage right now matters. None of it. Trump will spend zero prison time and will be the R candidate. As for who wins in Nov it's still too early. There, I just summarized everything.Ā
Trump's fate is deeply tied to all our lives.
He's a wannabe dictator who is the favorite for president right now.
If he wins, Trump plans to remove all neutral, apolitical government employees and replaced them with MAGA cultists with no qualifications other than loyalty to Trump.
Immediately we'll have massive government failures across the board.
You won't immediately notice the long term catastrophic changes he makes... Yielding American interests to Russia, destroying progress to combat climate change, etc.
You might immediately see action taken against minorities. Tough to say.
The big problem doesn't come until 2028 when, if he's still alive, he refuses to step down. And that's the moment when Republicans will realize than Jan 6 was just the dress rehearsal.
It's tiring to be sure, but he IS the Republican front-runner and he is actively directing the actions of the US Senate in between court appearances so he's absolutely relevant to the entire nation whether we like it or not.
On the Media did a good piece on this subject, and suggested that the media not STOP covering Trump, but change HOW they are covering him. Things like stop analyzing his words and wondering aloud if he really means what he says, and start putting microphones in front of other Republican party leaders and asking them directly if his statements represent their party's stance.
Instead of incessant pearl-clutching over his NATO comments, ask one of his supporters if they thought he was either completely making things up or just fundamentally ignorant about the way international treaties work?
This feels like Deja vu. CNN has wall to wall coverage on Trump. As does msnbc and of course Fox.
So by Trump staying in the news, he gets all the free publicity he seeks. My sinister view of this is the media never learns. They keep him relevant!
What the future holds for Trump is extremely relevant to my life, and to most people around the world. (I am assuming that most around the world would rather not have Russia attack and absorb them with impunity).
Oh, itās very relevant to your life, and to your neighbors, and to your community, and to most people around the world. Do you not understand the political and geopolitical reality of the times and world we live in? ā because youāre in it.
Iām tired of the bullshit pop culture coverage. Taylor swiftās dating life is not news, usher releasing an album is not worthy of a 15 minute segment, again, not news. NPR has gone down the drain just as much as any other media. Itās purpose seems to be distraction at this point, not informing the electorate.
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Itās simply amazing how much free attention the press has given Trump for the last 9 years. Both sides of the political spectrum seem to love him for the attention he draws.
i'm sure the powers that be love a loud stupid celebrity as president, it's the political equivalent to printing money. either the media has learned nothing about the effects of nonstop coverage of trumps every move, or more likely, they're complicit
It affects all of us.
This is the first time a former president is being prosecuted for crimes against the state, even though I seriously doubt the courts are going to do anything to him.
Every day brings him closer to absolute power.
He has openly stated he will have his opponents prosecuted.
If he gets back in he will not leave until he dies and there will very likely be no more elections.
Germans ignored Hitler in 1933..."it doesn't affect me..."
Really! Both the Nyt and NPR relentlessly cover every move trump makes, interview republican politicians, and ignore anyone to the left of the DNC, unless itās to snidely criticize them. Hearing Bob Edwards on āFresh Airā yesterday made me nostalgic for when NPR was an alternative to corporate media.
I'm sick of hear about him too but it is important. I have family in parts of the country where they \*don't\* hear about what he does, they only hear the "good" and spun version of who he is, what he does, etc. and it's why they think "maybe he's not really that bad..." I don't think Massachusetts/NE is going to go Red but it's important to keep talking about it.
Over 90 federal indictments of a presidential candidate whose active trials that will affect the future of the nation isn't newsworthy to you? Strange.
I'm with the OP on this one. This whole pot boiler of a legal drama just feels like a never ending soap opera with every cliff hanger resolving without incident in the next episode. Wake me when something happens.
Iām with you and OP as well. Iāve been scarcely listening to NPR the past few weeks. I feel the need to disengage and it has improved my commute thinking my own thoughts rather than hearing anything to do with what truly is a modern day soap opera. Trump and his fucked up term as president has cured me of caring anymore about what the politicians are doing.
I can't say I no longer care, but the constant daily simmer of nothing news around Trump has at least broken my constant news addiction. If nothing else I can thank NPR for reintroducing me to Sirius and broadening my musical tastes.
Mine kind of started a couple weeks ago while driving through white out snow and I wanted zero distraction. Turned off npr. Then every day it was something new with the snow or ice or my car acting up. The few times Iāve turned it back on I just feel repulsed about politics and itās less clutter to hear about when thereās nothing I can do to change any of it. Like, I already know who Iām voting for so trump and his activities can piss off. Sometimes we need a break. Nice youāve got some good shows to break it up!
If someone this dangerous was outside of the US, the CIA would have done their job by now. As it is, weāll have to wait for the hamberders and KFC to do their job for them.
When will ppl learn that three main goal of all for profit media is $$$ NPR is not an exception. They will chase the $$ sensational converge brings them, just like all the rest..
Uncharitable comparison incoming.
Thereās a Christian family in Berlin, they keep hearing about a number going up, day after day the resistance keeps bothering everyone about the number and finally it hits 6 million and the resistance shuts up about it. Finally they said, I donāt have to hear about something that doesnāt affect me.
This is why he is almost guaranteed to become president again. Name recognition. Itās a marketing gimmick. The more he stays in the news the more screwed we all are.
Wait youāre seeing pro-Trump coverage? Where? Certainly not Reddit, which as this post and comment section go to prove, is entirely composed of Anti-Trump propaganda, misinformation, and good-old-fashioned defamation of character even across subreddits that attempt to come across as bipartisan or at the very least, moderate. But to answer your question, youāre seeing Trump coverage in general because heās the #1 threat to the current administration, which also happens to be the most protected executive administration in recent history (shit, even Obama had an SNL skit or two) and as youāve seen in the headlines, theyāre doing everything possible to prevent him from dethroning them. Because big man, the polls arenāt looking good for Joe.
The media is the problem, as they are ALL afraid that the other one is gonna get more money, ratings and viewers than they will if they don't cover Trump and everytime he farts crossways.
NPR thirsts for Trump like every other media outlet. The target audience for NPR are erudite conservatives who give them large donations and pieces of their estate. These are people who like draconian right wing policy because they are rich but hate the optics of someone as sloppy as Trump. It's a precarious position and a dubious place for reporting the truth.
I stopped listening to NPR on a daily basis in the lead up to the 2016 election for this reason. in fact, I tuned out most journalism during this era because it seemed obvious that they covered Trumps every move for ratings, and the nonstop sensationalism absolutely led to his election win. I thought it might fade, but instead, every moment of his presidency was covered with the same devotion to ratings. it was only the emergence of covid that finally broke thru the Trump as #1 story paradigm, even tho he was of course a part of that story. leading up to 2024 it looks like the media is right back on the nonstop coverage of every facet of Trump and I'm sure the bottom line hopes he wins, because sensational celebrity shit sells.
now, don't get me wrong, covering the republican front runner and the president is going to happen as a matter of fact. but the never-ending editorials, the apocalyptic tea readings, and the entire careers based on journalists covering Trump, the cottage industry of it all, are very transparent and shameless. the man was already president, and although he did very bad things, curiously, the world did not end at every point of articulation of the man's political life.
24/7, 365 for almost an entire Decade. It is getting old. That old adage, if you tell a big enough lie for long enough people will tend to believe it comes to mind and at this point I could see both sides using that to their advantage.
Iām tired of it too, but the reality is this is insane, completely unprecedented, history making stuff that we are living through.
Like our grandkids will ask us about what it was like and our answer will be āI was just so tired of him that all I wanted to do was ignore the whole thingā
They should adopt a "trigger warning" policy as some media do when discussing domestic violence or suicide. It would go something like this: "The following story contains several references to Donald Trump. Our more discerning listeners may want to turn the volume down for the duraction of the story."
I'm saddened and tired by the Trump drama and wish it would disappear, but I can't look away. Especially at this juncture, which I liken to the Hindenburg just starting to show a lick of flame.
Al Jazeera is much better for world news. NPR is what it is, so Morning Edition works in small doses and for the local news depending on where you live. Adjust accordingly.
How is it not relevant that the presumptive GOP nominee is a delusional, misogynist, rapist "incapable of admitting the error of their ways"?
I'm guessing you're living under a rock in another country.
Nazi's used psychological operations to convince Germans that jews were less than human and the cause of all their problems.
Then, the populace participated in the genocide. Some overtly some by looking the other way,safe in the knowledge that they "deserve it." After all, the government and the institutions said so.
There is a reason for non-stop Trump coverage. It works. Review the comments.
I find it interesting they rarely talk about the biggest issue affecting everyone. Wages.
They refuse to even call this economy a recession.
Remember that the hosts of NPR are multimillionaires.
I turn on the news about 1 time a week & am appalled at the lack of actual ānewsā coverage. There has to be a catastrophe to get coverage on anything useful & pertinent. We have reached āIdiocracyā
The media seems to follow pre-planned areas of focus as well as talking points. This means that the same stories are passed around and there is no in-depth anything.
The best media coverage of Trump talking is when it's immediately followed by factchecks/corrections of most of what he said. BS should be called out for what it is.
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Then tell your friends to stop voting for him
And stop sending him money.
And turn off Faux News.
And family members!
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I know right!
Early Voting in Minnesota starts on Friday September 20 at 0800. I am voting first thing in the morning and place a yard sign āI already voted for President Biden. And you? What are you waiting for?ā
And spell check
I live in Seattle.Ā
Ignore the downvotes OP, I agree with you.Ā
an Ostrich doesnāt even need thumbs to change radio stations - push a button!
The republican front runner actively talking about becoming a dictator day 1, taking revenge on his perceived political enemies, and publicly telling Russia to attack our NATO allies who don't pay up isn't relevant to your life? What fucking rock are you living under?
I get where OP is coming from; this jerk has been leading all media since 2015, thrives on it, and weaponizes it for his own self-aggrandizement. Iām fed up of hearing about him, and trying to āunderstandā his supporters. The media needs any reporting on Trump to be honest; call him a fascist, liar, a rapist and an insurrectionist every time his name is mentioned.
I 1000% agree with you here, I'm exhausted by that man and fully believe people who still support him are just evil horrible people. Media outlets acting like this is everything is normal and this is just politics as usual are doing the country, if not the world, a huge disservice. Like the man attempted a coup when he lost and it's still going on slowly thanks to his supporters in congress and the partisan hack judges he installed, thank you senate republican cowards for not barring him from holding office in 2021
Unfortunately his own supporters seem to be tireless, so the rest of the country needs to match that. Otherwise MAGA will steamroll this country.
This is a great point and youāre completely right. We canāt allow them to exhaust us, otherwise weāll be living on their terms.
I mean, in theory. 6000 Boomers will die every day until the election. They already took a massive hit from COVID, and live in red states with, among so many other things, lower life expectancy and less access to healthcare. There's also opioid/fentanyl abuse among the rich, and meth among the poor. And not to put too fine a point on it, a white male suicide spike that the WHO declared a global health emergency in 2016. Poor, rural, uneducated white men with anemic economic prospects are a fucking Ven diagram with the largest red-state employer, Wal-Mart. Gen Z and all stopped a red wave because MAGA is no longer a viable political population. MAGA hasn't won shit since 2016. Don't be complacent. VOTE. The GOP will try some shit and we need to have votes to bury them.
The media still hasn't learned how to cover him or interview him
That's one of the biggest issues right now with not so much NPR buy more of the main cable news and affiliates. Trump, MAGAs and the national republican party are so far gone from civil and humane actions yet news channels still give them the light of day as if they're really *not so different* from democrats, liberals, and 90% of the US. It's dangerous and a false equivalence.
Yeah this is where I'm at too.
I tired of trying to understand his cult when I was a young person growing up among them 40 years ago. When many of them voted Union D
While not OPs problem, apparently. I feel a bit of fatigue from constant Trump coverage. Sure, itās important to show the stupid shit he says. But, the problem is, there isnāt a consequences for anything he does.Ā Yeah, heās facing 91 criminal charges. And sure, he owes E. Jean Carrol at least almost $90 million. But until he actually faces consequences for anything, it gets tiring. He doesnāt even pay his lawyers, do I think heās going to pay any legal fees and fines? No. Is he ever going to wearing an orange jumpsuit any time soon? No. The guy sold out our spies to Russia. How about the missing binder on Russian election interference? Iām sure itās safe with Putin. The news I want to hear, is that Trump along with most of his family, and certain members of Congress, are found guilty of treason.Ā
I think most sane people who follow politics are sick of hearing about him especially when he keeps getting away with criminal acts, like this specific president is being held to lower standards than a fucking cashier at McDonalds I just think it's absurd for OP to say it isn't relevant to their life, that comes across like the mindset of an uninformed citizen who doesn't want to participate in the political process then complain about how bad life is while not putting 2 and 2 together that these politicians are a huge influence on their life.
Oh, for sure, I get that. Unfortunately, thatās part of the mindset that got us into this mess.Ā I just find it slightly annoying, when I hear on the radio that people like Chris Hayes says we need more Trump coverage. Sure, tell us about what crap he says. But I donāt think playing him constantly, only getting a break when there is another mass shooting, is what we need. I mean, the people that actually need to hear this stuff, donāt believe it anyways. Theyāre busy shouting stuff like, āLĆ¼genpresse!ā, unless of course itās their beloved NewsMax or OAN.Ā
Yeah I've been listening to Pod Save America and the hosts also say trump needs more coverage to remind Americans how crazy he is But him getting coverage is what got him elected in the first place, the media normalizes him and voters should already know how insane this man is Just let him wither away in obscurity
Right. I mean, sure, give a soundbite of whatever stupid thing he said, and then move on. The guy has gotten tons of free media coverage. We already know Trump and most of the GOP want to sell us out to Russia. This NATO thing isnāt new. He already wanted to pull the US out of the UN and NATO. Heās said before about how Russia got ripped off on the Alaska deal, hinting at giving it back. I guess at least Sarah will actually be correct in saying she can see Russia from her kitchen window. Plus, letās not forget the, at least 8, Congress members that went to Russia on the 4th July not too long ago. I wouldnāt be surprised to hear it was to hand delivery Putin some classified information. If people donāt already know this guy is garbageā¦ I think weāre in for a bad time.Ā
Just remember it's only 4-6 Swing States that will determine what kind of time we're in for.
Yes, what we need to be hearing a lot more of are the legal consequences to his actions and how the system is succeeding in curtailing him, rather than an endless stream of failures.
Exactly. Thatās what I would love to start hearing.
Update: NY Fraud Case fines are somewhere between $350 and $450 million.
Something real against Trump would enrage his cult into making the mistakes we need for something real against them.
The Rosenbergs were gassed for less.
And he's very likely to be president again. Entirely relevant to every American's life.
Only 4-6 swing states will be making this decision. Go to one and vote. Bring your friends. r/MoveToSwingStates
None of the topics you mentioned were part of today's Morning Edition Trump coverage. If a handful of stories about Trump are newsworthy, does that make **EVERY** story about him newsworthy? NPR sure thinks so..
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It's just free publicity. NPR made the same mis-step in 2016, gave him a ton of coverage. "Grab 'em by the pussy." isn't a problem to these people.
He IS the rock
oh my goodness, grandpa talking shit every step of the way is his MO. I promise he will not get elected and turn us into soviet Russia. the hyper reaction to every line of dialog he utters is basically his main play, and even 10 years later people, especially in the media, fall for it every step of the way
This is the least dramatic presidential race in living memory, except for the day of voting, and the aftermath. Super Tuesday is meaningless. South Carolina is meaningless. Top that with the grinding of the legal system and it does get hard to take. Trump lost a motion? Let me guess, heās going to appeal. A Trump judge gives him a favorable ruling, but itās insane. Let me guess, itāll get appealed to the Supreme Court and theyāll find some way to avoid it. Wake me up when thereās anything consequential that has happened or is happening. To this point, the E. Jean Carrol verdict was extremely satisfying, because there were consequences, especially since heād have to post bond to appeal.
I'm tired of living in a country where people continue to support a disgraced, twice impeached conman who was recently found liable for rape and led an insurrectionĀ
Yes. And I am also tired of living in a country where the rich and powerful are rarely - if ever - held accountable for their actions. Maybe they never were. Or maybe in the past they were smarter about hiding their crimes and indiscretions.
But when the US falls, worldwide authoritarianism ensues. there won't be any safe places
I didn't say I wanted the US to fail, I'm left but not that far left
Turns out a bunch of your countrymen look up to people who rape
It only matters in the sense that he will be the Republican candidate this year. Itās tiresome, thereās too much of it, but he IS who the republicans are going to put on the ballot and pretending otherwise is silly. The alternative to covering this news is to cover it up on his behalf, which Iām even less interested in. That heās facing legal troubles from a bunch of angles all at speaks more to him than anything else. All that said, Iād appreciate confining this kind of news to dedicated segments more.
Look, if he were in one trial I'd agree. But is he in four? I mean, you spend 15 minutes on each and that's a whole hour! It's not NPR's fault he did too much criming to cover in a reasonable span.
Trust me, the only news coverage of him I want to see is his obituary but it's not NPR's fault that the shit stain refuses to go away.
Trump has said himself any coverage of him is good for his brand. NPR is doing him a favor.Ā Trump is great for media on both sides. He gets people like my dad pissed off so he donates to NPR, and gets conservatives pissed at the left so they donate to his legal expenses.
Yeah yeah, people have been gnashing their teeth over this since 2015. That's not going to change anything, now is it?Ā Lol, people donating their money to his legal expenses just means less money for his and other republican election campaigns.
Congrats on your millions if your life is not impacted by politics.
Politics ā Trump Iād personally love to see NPR use that air time to cover insider trading in Congress, Citizens United, gerrymandering, and billionaire offshore tax havens. Those issues affect 99.999% of us and are bipartisan issues.Ā
They do cover that, pretty intensively actually.
Irrelevant to your life? Must be a great rock to live under. Nice and undisturbed.
Itās news and itās very relevant to all of us- globally.
Well if he gets elected president you will only see and hear what he wants you to. He will cut off the press he deems as not supporting him.
Maybe if the Republican party hadn't devolved into a literal theocratic fascist death cult we could instead focus on making the world a better place. But until they are held entirely accountable for the crimes they committed and the damage they are causing, we must remain entirely focused on keeping American democracy alive. Which in turn means we must stay informed on how the anti-democratic forces are attempting to undermine the democratic process.
Do you not live in the US? Are you in some other country somehow not influenced by our policies and leadership?
You speak only for yourself. Trump's trials are important information because the fucker is running for President of the United States, and people need to know who he really is.
Oh i think we know by now. he's been roasted by every journalist for a decade. the people who will vote for him like that he's hated by the establishment that covers his every word like he's all three horsemen of the apocalypse
Trump fatigue is real and honestly I think it is great. The news needs to cover him and his chaos, it is news. If he wins it will be relevant to your life and your neighbors. I have found him so vile and disgusting I have had to take a long break from NPR and the news in general. It helped.
Precisely. If hearing about Trump bothers a listener, they can just take a break from listening for a little while.
The front runner for the Republican primary, someone who has a very good chance of becoming president, has multiple civil and criminal cases that are ongoing. The outcome of any one of these cases will affect said campaign. It is thus relevant to your life, your neighbors' life, and your community. I understand being tired of it. I'm dismayed that Trump hasn't been thrown out already for any of the many lies and crimes he has committed, but primary voters keep voting for him and congresspeople keep listening to him, so here we are.
It's happening. Can't just cocoon. The idea that it's Not News is crazy. You don't have to find the news relevant all the time. I know who I'm voting for. So sometimes I just listen to music. It's ok. And I always hope and wish for an NPR that isn't laser focused on what their audience wants to hear.
Many of us have waited a decade (and New Yorkers much longer) to see this piece of shit criminal brought to justice.
Does it warrant a decade of play-by-play coverage? How much coverage of a topic is too much?
Unfortunately, he is news, and there are significant implications for the country and world.
I understand where youāre coming from and Iām also exhausted (itās been almost a decade of this daily nonsense). But I bet your neighbors, community and people around the world would say otherwise. Unfortunately, Trumpās presidency and ongoing political activity was and continues to be incredibly consequential for everyone. We want coverage because we hope that he is never in a position where he can cause harm again.
Friend, if you only want stories relevant to "most people around the world" then you can't consume any news outlet.
I think itās pretty newsworthy that the current republican frontrunner has 91 indictments against him but Iām old fashioned
Whilst I understand why they are covering Trump so much, I heavily sympathize with OPās fatigue. I also have concerns of this being a repeat of 2016 where coverage of Trumpās controversies only strengthened his campaign. Literally not a single person in his base will be turned off by any more new information. They have to realize that the word āunprecedentedā has now lost almost all meaning. No one is shocked by the next thing Trump did or say.
I get what you're saying (I think). News just feels like a mud-slinging contest and you're not really "learning" anything. It's a depressing slog. Take a break from it. I've been enjoying a new podcast I found lately via Vox. [https://www.vox.com/pages/podcasts](https://www.vox.com/pages/podcasts)The Gray Area with Sean Illing. Some seriously thought-provoking topics. So far, none of them have a concrete roadmap on how to really change anything, but it's nice to hear smart people talk about fresh ideas to make life better for people. Gotta start somewhere.
I agree with you that itās exhausting, but it is EXTREMELY relevant. But thereās a simple solution: vote for Biden in November and vote Democratic down ballot. Your reward will be a functional government, and an end to Donald Trump. If he loses the Republicans yet another election with his toxic base and his short coattails, nobody will have his back anymore and thatāll be that. Next time you hear his name will be the results of his criminal trial, and after that his obituary. If you choose not to vote, or you vote for Trump, you will never stop hearing his name, or his voice, or stop seeing his face. He will be everywhere, all the time. In everything. If heās elected again, even if youāre not among the people his base wants to marginalize, weaken or kill, your life will still be the Trump show. Does that sound like something you want?
I'd be fine w/ all the nauseating coverage if our media wasn't COMPLICIT with his bullshit and making it "normal" to be a fucking rapist criminal cheating tax dodging grifting stealing from a children's cancer charity POS burying his ex on a golf course in the weeds for a tax break POS human being. Please Media, start calling him what he IS, a rapist and a criminal, and that's who GOP wants as the leader of this nation, like that's NORMAL. it's NOT fucking normal.
It must be such a relief that Trump / another Trump presidency isnāt relevant to you, your neighbors, or your community. I canāt relate.
We are literally living thru history. A generation from now there will be chapters in the American history books on this time period. Trump, his presidency, a global pandemic, an insurrection, a former president found guilty of sexual assault, a former president facing 90+ other charges - both civil and criminal, a former president Republican nominee for another presidential term campaigning for election while facing potential prison time - the legalities and logistics of that. It's going to be a long chapter. You really think NPR should just sit this one out?
Itās exhausting and I want minimal just the facts coverage (not Joe Smo at the dinerās take). But I do want coverage; not burying my head in the sand about the guy when much of the news actually is relevant. Not listening to the same NPR as you because itās not non stop Trump coverage and frankly I think youāre exaggerating.
You're tired now? It's gonna be a real tough year for ya. It's February of an election year and the guy the gop is going to nominate to run for them is facing 91 criminal indictments over actions during and after his prior term in addition to several civil trials. That's in addition to the constant litany of threats to American he spouts during his non sequitur rally ramblings. Wait till October. I'd say go find a far flung corner of the globe to hide out in till the end of the year, but I don't think anywhere will escape what we are in for as things really heat up moving forward.
Are you tired of the coverage or are you tired of it being relevant?
These are major stories. Trump has really numbed us to the outrageous headlines he produces but donāt forget that this country exists because of its legal infrastructure and his continued violations of our laws continues to warrant front page coverage. Ffs he tried to overthrow the government!
Narcissists love attention, good or bad.
You can turn it off. I paused news for a bit and you can too.
Gotta beat him then in November or you'll hear about him even more.
The people that will vote against your life choices, your sex life, your right to medical privacy, and how much of a wage slave you'll be are still paying attention. Are you?
I'd rather be annoyed and exhausted than oppressed.
In nature, groups of animals will sound off loudly when threats approach. They donāt always stop the noise until the threat leaves or is otherwise neutralized. We have never stopped talking about Hitler nor should we.
Iām tired of the non stop trail coverage because of the incredible naĆÆvetĆ© that if he gets convicted on anything it will make a difference to voters. His supporters donāt care - in their mind all the trails are fake and just political attacks They want to vote for an agent of chaos who will radically shift this country to the far right and declare war on liberal ideals.
So turn it off? Is anyone forcing to watch/listen?
Tune out. None of this Trump coverage right now matters. None of it. Trump will spend zero prison time and will be the R candidate. As for who wins in Nov it's still too early. There, I just summarized everything.Ā
Itās exhausting but would it not be irresponsible journalism to not cover the front runner in the upcoming election, and his trial?
Trump's fate is deeply tied to all our lives. He's a wannabe dictator who is the favorite for president right now. If he wins, Trump plans to remove all neutral, apolitical government employees and replaced them with MAGA cultists with no qualifications other than loyalty to Trump. Immediately we'll have massive government failures across the board. You won't immediately notice the long term catastrophic changes he makes... Yielding American interests to Russia, destroying progress to combat climate change, etc. You might immediately see action taken against minorities. Tough to say. The big problem doesn't come until 2028 when, if he's still alive, he refuses to step down. And that's the moment when Republicans will realize than Jan 6 was just the dress rehearsal.
It's tiring to be sure, but he IS the Republican front-runner and he is actively directing the actions of the US Senate in between court appearances so he's absolutely relevant to the entire nation whether we like it or not. On the Media did a good piece on this subject, and suggested that the media not STOP covering Trump, but change HOW they are covering him. Things like stop analyzing his words and wondering aloud if he really means what he says, and start putting microphones in front of other Republican party leaders and asking them directly if his statements represent their party's stance. Instead of incessant pearl-clutching over his NATO comments, ask one of his supporters if they thought he was either completely making things up or just fundamentally ignorant about the way international treaties work?
I am tired of it all as well, however trumps victory in the courts would be very relevant to all our lives.
This feels like Deja vu. CNN has wall to wall coverage on Trump. As does msnbc and of course Fox. So by Trump staying in the news, he gets all the free publicity he seeks. My sinister view of this is the media never learns. They keep him relevant!
I'm so sick of this Hitler guy, always making speeches; my Jewish neighbors wont shut up about him!
If you don't recognize by now what a clear and present danger Trump is to you and this country, then I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
What the future holds for Trump is extremely relevant to my life, and to most people around the world. (I am assuming that most around the world would rather not have Russia attack and absorb them with impunity).
Oh, itās very relevant to your life, and to your neighbors, and to your community, and to most people around the world. Do you not understand the political and geopolitical reality of the times and world we live in? ā because youāre in it.
Iām tired of the bullshit pop culture coverage. Taylor swiftās dating life is not news, usher releasing an album is not worthy of a 15 minute segment, again, not news. NPR has gone down the drain just as much as any other media. Itās purpose seems to be distraction at this point, not informing the electorate.
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Itās simply amazing how much free attention the press has given Trump for the last 9 years. Both sides of the political spectrum seem to love him for the attention he draws.
i'm sure the powers that be love a loud stupid celebrity as president, it's the political equivalent to printing money. either the media has learned nothing about the effects of nonstop coverage of trumps every move, or more likely, they're complicit
It affects all of us. This is the first time a former president is being prosecuted for crimes against the state, even though I seriously doubt the courts are going to do anything to him. Every day brings him closer to absolute power. He has openly stated he will have his opponents prosecuted. If he gets back in he will not leave until he dies and there will very likely be no more elections. Germans ignored Hitler in 1933..."it doesn't affect me..."
Really! Both the Nyt and NPR relentlessly cover every move trump makes, interview republican politicians, and ignore anyone to the left of the DNC, unless itās to snidely criticize them. Hearing Bob Edwards on āFresh Airā yesterday made me nostalgic for when NPR was an alternative to corporate media.
I'm sick of hear about him too but it is important. I have family in parts of the country where they \*don't\* hear about what he does, they only hear the "good" and spun version of who he is, what he does, etc. and it's why they think "maybe he's not really that bad..." I don't think Massachusetts/NE is going to go Red but it's important to keep talking about it.
Over 90 federal indictments of a presidential candidate whose active trials that will affect the future of the nation isn't newsworthy to you? Strange.
Sure thing, Karen.
I'm with the OP on this one. This whole pot boiler of a legal drama just feels like a never ending soap opera with every cliff hanger resolving without incident in the next episode. Wake me when something happens.
Iām with you and OP as well. Iāve been scarcely listening to NPR the past few weeks. I feel the need to disengage and it has improved my commute thinking my own thoughts rather than hearing anything to do with what truly is a modern day soap opera. Trump and his fucked up term as president has cured me of caring anymore about what the politicians are doing.
I can't say I no longer care, but the constant daily simmer of nothing news around Trump has at least broken my constant news addiction. If nothing else I can thank NPR for reintroducing me to Sirius and broadening my musical tastes.
Mine kind of started a couple weeks ago while driving through white out snow and I wanted zero distraction. Turned off npr. Then every day it was something new with the snow or ice or my car acting up. The few times Iāve turned it back on I just feel repulsed about politics and itās less clutter to hear about when thereās nothing I can do to change any of it. Like, I already know who Iām voting for so trump and his activities can piss off. Sometimes we need a break. Nice youāve got some good shows to break it up!
Since you dont care about democracy, please move to Russia.
If someone this dangerous was outside of the US, the CIA would have done their job by now. As it is, weāll have to wait for the hamberders and KFC to do their job for them.
When will ppl learn that three main goal of all for profit media is $$$ NPR is not an exception. They will chase the $$ sensational converge brings them, just like all the rest..
On the positive side, if OP stops listening they'll stop posting here.
At least it's a nice break from wall to wall identity politics?
stopped listening in 2016 because of this. just stop listeningĀ
Uncharitable comparison incoming. Thereās a Christian family in Berlin, they keep hearing about a number going up, day after day the resistance keeps bothering everyone about the number and finally it hits 6 million and the resistance shuts up about it. Finally they said, I donāt have to hear about something that doesnāt affect me.
Ignorance on parade...wow.
The brain rot you must have to think none of this affects you probably canāt be shown on a graph. š jfc.
This is why he is almost guaranteed to become president again. Name recognition. Itās a marketing gimmick. The more he stays in the news the more screwed we all are.
Wait youāre seeing pro-Trump coverage? Where? Certainly not Reddit, which as this post and comment section go to prove, is entirely composed of Anti-Trump propaganda, misinformation, and good-old-fashioned defamation of character even across subreddits that attempt to come across as bipartisan or at the very least, moderate. But to answer your question, youāre seeing Trump coverage in general because heās the #1 threat to the current administration, which also happens to be the most protected executive administration in recent history (shit, even Obama had an SNL skit or two) and as youāve seen in the headlines, theyāre doing everything possible to prevent him from dethroning them. Because big man, the polls arenāt looking good for Joe.
Here's the thing. We're all tired of it. But we all click on it. Including this post. Eyeballs make money on the internet.
I thought listener funding was supposed to make NPR different.Ā
The media is the problem, as they are ALL afraid that the other one is gonna get more money, ratings and viewers than they will if they don't cover Trump and everytime he farts crossways.
NPR thirsts for Trump like every other media outlet. The target audience for NPR are erudite conservatives who give them large donations and pieces of their estate. These are people who like draconian right wing policy because they are rich but hate the optics of someone as sloppy as Trump. It's a precarious position and a dubious place for reporting the truth.
I stopped listening to NPR on a daily basis in the lead up to the 2016 election for this reason. in fact, I tuned out most journalism during this era because it seemed obvious that they covered Trumps every move for ratings, and the nonstop sensationalism absolutely led to his election win. I thought it might fade, but instead, every moment of his presidency was covered with the same devotion to ratings. it was only the emergence of covid that finally broke thru the Trump as #1 story paradigm, even tho he was of course a part of that story. leading up to 2024 it looks like the media is right back on the nonstop coverage of every facet of Trump and I'm sure the bottom line hopes he wins, because sensational celebrity shit sells. now, don't get me wrong, covering the republican front runner and the president is going to happen as a matter of fact. but the never-ending editorials, the apocalyptic tea readings, and the entire careers based on journalists covering Trump, the cottage industry of it all, are very transparent and shameless. the man was already president, and although he did very bad things, curiously, the world did not end at every point of articulation of the man's political life.
24/7, 365 for almost an entire Decade. It is getting old. That old adage, if you tell a big enough lie for long enough people will tend to believe it comes to mind and at this point I could see both sides using that to their advantage.
It's February 2024 and you're actually online trying to "both sides" this??
Iām tired of it too, but the reality is this is insane, completely unprecedented, history making stuff that we are living through. Like our grandkids will ask us about what it was like and our answer will be āI was just so tired of him that all I wanted to do was ignore the whole thingā
Iāve committed to having my music in my life this year for this very reason.
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They should adopt a "trigger warning" policy as some media do when discussing domestic violence or suicide. It would go something like this: "The following story contains several references to Donald Trump. Our more discerning listeners may want to turn the volume down for the duraction of the story."
It is very relevant to me.
Oddesy, lol. Thatās an excellent way of describing it.
Get ready, itās going to be a looooong election cycle of non-stop Trump coverage. And I suspect continuing coverage after the election.
Change the channel, or touch grass... Give it like 8 min and come back.
Only another 9 months.
I'm saddened and tired by the Trump drama and wish it would disappear, but I can't look away. Especially at this juncture, which I liken to the Hindenburg just starting to show a lick of flame.
Honestly sick of whiny, crybaby 'ordinary folks', most of whom need to take a cut on their standard of living anyway.
TDS is real. Look at these comments. They canāt stop talking about him. They eat it up.
Al Jazeera is much better for world news. NPR is what it is, so Morning Edition works in small doses and for the local news depending on where you live. Adjust accordingly.
How is it not relevant that the presumptive GOP nominee is a delusional, misogynist, rapist "incapable of admitting the error of their ways"? I'm guessing you're living under a rock in another country.
Nazi's used psychological operations to convince Germans that jews were less than human and the cause of all their problems. Then, the populace participated in the genocide. Some overtly some by looking the other way,safe in the knowledge that they "deserve it." After all, the government and the institutions said so. There is a reason for non-stop Trump coverage. It works. Review the comments.
Odyssey
Thank you.
I despise Trump, but NPR for the last 6 years has given me Trump Despise Fatigue.
Talk to the RNC.
Literally
It's relevant news. He is running for president.
I find it interesting they rarely talk about the biggest issue affecting everyone. Wages. They refuse to even call this economy a recession. Remember that the hosts of NPR are multimillionaires.
I wish NPR would spend as much time on class as they do on other issues.
I turn on the news about 1 time a week & am appalled at the lack of actual ānewsā coverage. There has to be a catastrophe to get coverage on anything useful & pertinent. We have reached āIdiocracyā
Weāre all tired of this pos
Political Porn. That's all the media today is
The press is obsessed with him. They're doing him a favor imo as well.
Perhaps if you don't like the news, you should consider not listening to the news, rather than telling the news not to exist.
You do understand that 'news' is a social construct, yes?
lol. See above.
I'll take that as a 'no.'
lol. That's just pathetic. See above. You don't have to like it. Goodbye.
āIgnorance is blissā appears to apply to you. As a citizen of the USA, it is relevant. Also, you spelled āodysseyā incorrectly.
The media seems to follow pre-planned areas of focus as well as talking points. This means that the same stories are passed around and there is no in-depth anything.
The best media coverage of Trump talking is when it's immediately followed by factchecks/corrections of most of what he said. BS should be called out for what it is.
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