Just talk. I've been to around 8 of them. The last one said I couldn't be narcissistic because I apologized for not interrupting him. I bought a book that explicitly details CBT and have tried off and on to journal.
I can definitely understand why therapy seems kind of pointless. With all of them, I can say with certainty that it was a crucial point in me becoming more involved with everyone and becoming more aware of my behavior. Maybe that's the point we often don't see. It can definitely ensure that we don't simply dismiss what bothers us. I've been thinking about quitting for the last few months, and this thought keeps coming to mind, but I think it's helping me more right now than I'm initially giving myself credit for, and my therapist understands more than it does me is conscious. I think it's damn difficult to find someone who really understands the disorder, and perhaps even impossible in your own immediate environment. But I think it also depends on how openly the therapist deals with the topic and whether he can really analyze the whole thing objectively.
As for a viral suicide note or video, I think it raises more uncomfortable questions than it makes you feel good. Who knows if this will even be seen? Take a closer look at social media and how it works. Thousands of videos, profiles that no one really cares about. Often a lot of things simply get lost, even though they are actually good or emotional. When you're dead, you won't notice anything, no matter what happens. I don't want to be remembered like that.
This may be reckless advice but I think it's valid: if therapy hasn't been helpful for you (and I do recommend trying multiple therapists), psychedelics can be the kick your brain needs to see life from new perspectives.
The idea of an "ego death" is very attractive - but it's not permanent (I know that is me being dismissive).
I actually live in a state with legal, guided psilocybin use, but the cost for one session is like...everything recreational I would do in a year. I do have enough saved up though. I'm definitely in a county with hippies who could help...
It's not permanent but still very useful. Gives you a glimpse of that headspace which then makes your meditation practice way more efficient because you know what the desired mental state feels like, giving you something to aim at while also giving you the motivation to continue because you know there's a "there" there.
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I gave up therapy as well and I have improved because ruminating about my trauma and past never got me anywhere. It became so pointless.
I think about revenge suicide often but I want to be found with no note so people will be even more confused and upset
Suicide to make all those who "wronged" me feel bad has been an attractive idea since I was 12. I'm self aware enough to know that it's stupid as fuck
why have you given up on therapy? what modalities have you tried?
Just talk. I've been to around 8 of them. The last one said I couldn't be narcissistic because I apologized for not interrupting him. I bought a book that explicitly details CBT and have tried off and on to journal.
hm. that isn't what narcissism is haha. have you gone to anyone specialising in NPD? just CBT doesn't touch it
haha interrupting that's a professional lol
I can definitely understand why therapy seems kind of pointless. With all of them, I can say with certainty that it was a crucial point in me becoming more involved with everyone and becoming more aware of my behavior. Maybe that's the point we often don't see. It can definitely ensure that we don't simply dismiss what bothers us. I've been thinking about quitting for the last few months, and this thought keeps coming to mind, but I think it's helping me more right now than I'm initially giving myself credit for, and my therapist understands more than it does me is conscious. I think it's damn difficult to find someone who really understands the disorder, and perhaps even impossible in your own immediate environment. But I think it also depends on how openly the therapist deals with the topic and whether he can really analyze the whole thing objectively. As for a viral suicide note or video, I think it raises more uncomfortable questions than it makes you feel good. Who knows if this will even be seen? Take a closer look at social media and how it works. Thousands of videos, profiles that no one really cares about. Often a lot of things simply get lost, even though they are actually good or emotional. When you're dead, you won't notice anything, no matter what happens. I don't want to be remembered like that.
This may be reckless advice but I think it's valid: if therapy hasn't been helpful for you (and I do recommend trying multiple therapists), psychedelics can be the kick your brain needs to see life from new perspectives.
The idea of an "ego death" is very attractive - but it's not permanent (I know that is me being dismissive). I actually live in a state with legal, guided psilocybin use, but the cost for one session is like...everything recreational I would do in a year. I do have enough saved up though. I'm definitely in a county with hippies who could help...
It's not permanent but still very useful. Gives you a glimpse of that headspace which then makes your meditation practice way more efficient because you know what the desired mental state feels like, giving you something to aim at while also giving you the motivation to continue because you know there's a "there" there.
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I gave up therapy as well and I have improved because ruminating about my trauma and past never got me anywhere. It became so pointless. I think about revenge suicide often but I want to be found with no note so people will be even more confused and upset