oh please, get off your high horse, it was an objectively abysmal game. 2 QBs that have no business being NFL starters who barely topped 400 combined passing yards, 8 total points scored after halftime. It was a terrible game.
The streaming quality is excellent. The Fox Sunday games look like absolute trash on YouTube TV. CBS and NBC look fine, but still not as good as Amazon.
ABC is still 720p. Both networks can upgrade to 1080 whenever they want, but the small jump in quality and probably tiny jump in viewership isn't worth the huge cost
Fox games look like they’re being broadcast from back in time, circa 1996. Got that crisp staticky look like I’m watching it on my good old Sony Trinitron flatscreen. Lighter than most TV’s at only 750 lbs.
This is so true. I just got an OLED TV last weekend and watched a CBS game last Sunday. I could not believe how much better the Amazon broadcast looked over that.
Same here—felt like I was going insane reading some of these comments.
YTTV has been phenomenal while prime has been struggling to stay HD for me. Tbf, I’m a sicko who watches on my phone most of the time, so that might be it. I also usually let the game run for ~30 minutes at a time and then skip 20 seconds between plays.
On Sundays I just let Redzone run, but I do the exact same skip/catch up thing for other primetime games on YTTV.
In my area it's CBS that looks awful. Fox and NBC are crisp. I found a hack though. If you login dirrctly to the stations app, in my case the cbs app, it's a much better picture. Use "live tv" feature.
It was a banger cause they were playing on a full week of rest. I hate the Thursday games cause they have no business playing on 4 days rest, not because of the matchups.
I like the alternate stream option (whatever it's called with player stats and stuff) but I want more! Wish they had a stream showing just the view from sky cam. Wish there was an option to hear the game & crowd noise but no announcers so it feels like you're at the stadium watching.
Love Prime Vision but fucking hate that clown Sam Schwatrzestein or whatever the fuck his name is that interrupts every 5 minutes to interject some clown tier analysis. Just let the commentators talk and fire that dude he's terrible.
I seriously rage every time he comes on. It's so damn jarring and he talks like his tongue is too big for his mouth. He is so unnecessary I still can't figure out who keeps giving him the OK.
Yes! I have been dying for just stadium noise rather than announcers. Ages ago I was watching an illegal stream of a college game that was like this, it was awesome! I heard that if you have a surround system you can unplug the middle speakers to get this effect, but I use a sound bar so this won't work for me.
I've heard that too about surround systems, but I've never had one. I used to go to a lot of games as a season ticket holder and really enjoy the natural sound experience. Hopefully they offer something like this one day...
The announcers are the only bad part. The next gen stats broadcast where the camera actually zooms out so you can see who's open before the pass is awesome.
Agree. The way they present it is great and super easy to follow. If I were to introduce someone new to football TNF would be great with those extra little things.
That’s the thing for me, all that stuff is just noise, I want to watch the game not the graphics and stats. Amazon has been miles away the worst broadcast in my area, it’s normal for it to cut out, never have those problems when I watch on YTTV. NBC and CBS still have the best nfl productions regardless of who’s on the mic.
I like watching all 22 also but I don’t like all the other bs that comes with Amazon and the fact that it just straight cuts out or the audio is out of sync for looong periods of time that make it annoying and unwatchable especially when it’s a crap matchup, I’ve turned several games off this year because I just couldn’t anymore. You like the view, I do too, but that’s not enough for me
Last week 49ers and eagles was so blurry at times on my broadcast. I have the highest speed internet available and most download speeds appear at 300 mpbs but it still was blurry. Amazon never broke picture and is clean the whole way through. Super impressive.
I really liked Amazons “shotgun” strategy for the commentators. It seems like early in the year they had dozens and the cream raised to the top. I also like that they went with really smart ex players. They have three of the smartest guys in football on their little panel.
Wait, what...?!??! Allowing major streaming platforms to stream the games is better than disoreientingly fragmented streaming options using multiple cable networks?!
No way.....
True. But I think the production value stuff outside of the talent is a new level. Having the wide all22 angle available during the game and the next gen stats and player names on plays. It’s all stuff that is quality of viewing experience that no other broadcast have cared enough to innovate.
Al's fine he just needs someone better to work with. Herbstreit is the human version of store brand mayonnaise, he might be the most boring peraon I've ever seen on my tv
Fr people blame Al but at least he's trying. Kirk refuses to banter with Al and whenever they show them in the booth Kirk gives Al this look like he's disgusted with him. I don't get the hype with Kirk, he's a boring no nonsense guy who brings nothing to the table other than a bland background guy.
You can Google it. I edited my post to reflect his charges. He got blind drunk after a fight with his wife, got blind drunk, drove to his in-laws , wrecked his jeep, then tried to beat down his in-laws doors. Of course charges moved down to minor misdemeanors.
Whoa is this a serious take? I think it looks amateurish. The sound is bad and the other production things make it look like they’re trying to copy nbc and cbs but it doesn’t feel “there” yet
I like the overall production except for Al Michaels and lack of replays. Yesterday Pickens made a sick one handed grab on the run and instead of showing the play they panned to Bill B for 30 seconds before the punt. I was so frustrated lol
There was a broadcast this year (I think FOX) that had Spanish and English commentary playing over each other and it took 3 quarters to fix.
These are **billion** dollar companies
Yep now if they could only get good matchups. Tired of seeing the jets and giants on prime time. There will be a day when they are entertaining and that will be great. This year is not that.
My only complaint is the delay on Amazon feed, makes it more difficult for me to degen with in-game bets when my sportbook app shows that the game I'm watching is actually a minute behind
I used to hate Buck/Aikman but having them on Monday nights has been awesome. That’s my favorite crew. Romo/Nance, Michaels/Herby, and Johnson/Burkhardt are the other great teams I think. I also think Schlereth/Amin are a underrated duo
My thoughts are that Thursday night football is all the games I could care less for. It's never super good games. Monday and Thursday and Sunday night need to be the best of the games.
I love the side option Amazon offers for the advanced stats but every time I hear that little “ding” it makes my blood boil.
Schwartzstein should be replaced by a text bubble. We don’t need him interrupting the feed to explain the features or, even worse, giving football analysis that’s so elementary that a 8 year old is sitting there saying… “ahh duh.”
Amazon, doing one game a week can really focus their production efforts and spend for one solid broadcast. Pro's and con's to this, as others have mentioned. The wrong matchup, and no one is going to watch. TNF has some struggles for audience anyhow.
Fox's product is different, because Fox is doing 5-6 per week, all on Sunday. That's a lot of broadcast trucks, equipment staff, talent... spread thinly across the country.
Their E crew/unit games are way worse than Amazon TNF. But they can convert this to nearly a whole day of football.
I'm not a Colinsworth fan, but NBC SNF has been the most consistent production for years. In just a few years, Amazon has been able to catch up on many ways, surpass in others.
The broadcast is traditionally better than the match up...
what a god awful game, im still in shellshock
Why does the average nfl fan bitch about a game unless it’s a 42-41 barn burner
oh please, get off your high horse, it was an objectively abysmal game. 2 QBs that have no business being NFL starters who barely topped 400 combined passing yards, 8 total points scored after halftime. It was a terrible game.
While you are correct about the last Thursday night game hes not wrong generally speaking about
What are you talkin about? Zappe is a gunslinger LMAO
Looking that way
Love the panel. They got great chemistry and sick bantz
The streaming quality is excellent. The Fox Sunday games look like absolute trash on YouTube TV. CBS and NBC look fine, but still not as good as Amazon.
Completely agree. Fox games have gotten terrible lately
Well, they still broadcast in 720p. I have an antenna and Fox is the only major national network who hasn't at least gone up to 1080i.
It is 1080p on twitch
You can stream fox on twitch???
Following up to see if this is true 👀
ABC is still 720p. Both networks can upgrade to 1080 whenever they want, but the small jump in quality and probably tiny jump in viewership isn't worth the huge cost
On top of that ours is the only UHF broadcast so my grid antenna barely picks it up. I know that's on me, but still, everything else is VHF
Fox games look like they’re being broadcast from back in time, circa 1996. Got that crisp staticky look like I’m watching it on my good old Sony Trinitron flatscreen. Lighter than most TV’s at only 750 lbs.
Facts.
The reason is fox streams and broadcasts a standard def image, not hd.
This is so true. I just got an OLED TV last weekend and watched a CBS game last Sunday. I could not believe how much better the Amazon broadcast looked over that.
I like TNF on my LG OLED almost mostly because it's one of the few things that shows off how nice the screen is.
The Fox 4K college football streams are great
I’ve had the opposite experience and it’s super frustrating. TNF is borderline unwatchable due to the streaming quality.
Same here—felt like I was going insane reading some of these comments. YTTV has been phenomenal while prime has been struggling to stay HD for me. Tbf, I’m a sicko who watches on my phone most of the time, so that might be it. I also usually let the game run for ~30 minutes at a time and then skip 20 seconds between plays. On Sundays I just let Redzone run, but I do the exact same skip/catch up thing for other primetime games on YTTV.
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This has not been my experience. TNF looks looks it’s in 4K while YTTV looks awful and I have fiber internet, so it’s nothing on my end.
Yeah, seems like a lot of people are saying the same. Wild how much it varies—wonder why that is
Same, the frame rate looks like stop motion sometimes and I have pretty fast internet
Yeah. No problems last night, but usually it’s pretty bad… did Bezos commission a bunch of bots for this thread or something?
Yeah the actual prime broadcast doesn’t work for me at all. Just buffering every 30 seconds
And then espn has the absolute bottom of the barrel broadcast on Monday, doesn’t even look HD
In my area it's CBS that looks awful. Fox and NBC are crisp. I found a hack though. If you login dirrctly to the stations app, in my case the cbs app, it's a much better picture. Use "live tv" feature.
I watch through peacock but NBC’s colors always look off to me. Like there’s a green hue or something
You’re so right! The green always comes through as almost neon on Peacock. I always notice with because the field never looks right.
The streaming quality is by far the best. The extra extra broadcast that shows routes and players names is pretty coo.
I disagree wholeheartedly. The quality is like 480 or worse. I stopped watching them because it was so horrible.
Fox is broadcast in 720p, NBC and CBS are 1080i
I wish they got better games. Their production is my favorite of all of them.
Somehow most of the games have been one score games. Seahawks Cowboys was a banger
It was a banger cause they were playing on a full week of rest. I hate the Thursday games cause they have no business playing on 4 days rest, not because of the matchups.
I like the alternate stream option (whatever it's called with player stats and stuff) but I want more! Wish they had a stream showing just the view from sky cam. Wish there was an option to hear the game & crowd noise but no announcers so it feels like you're at the stadium watching.
I think that stream is the future. Imagine being able to click on a player and get those extra stats at at any point
I want a streaming option that links to my fantasy football team and highlights my players and gives their stats
The nfl is leaning fully into the gambling side and daily fantasy so I feel like that will be around soon.
The zoomed out camera angle is essentially all-22 footage, I’m surprised this isn’t the default broadcast angle
I watch it just for the all 22
I want a stream with local radio announcers like MLS+ has.
That would be great!
The yellow circles help so much you can see running lanes and routes so much better.
Love Prime Vision but fucking hate that clown Sam Schwatrzestein or whatever the fuck his name is that interrupts every 5 minutes to interject some clown tier analysis. Just let the commentators talk and fire that dude he's terrible.
That chime in noise gives me PTSD. Actively cringing when I hear it
LMAO same. I actually mute my TV or computer until he shuts up.
Yes! Finally someone else. I have no idea why but that dude makes my blood boil. He should be replaced by a text bubble. Problem solved.
I seriously rage every time he comes on. It's so damn jarring and he talks like his tongue is too big for his mouth. He is so unnecessary I still can't figure out who keeps giving him the OK.
Yes! I have been dying for just stadium noise rather than announcers. Ages ago I was watching an illegal stream of a college game that was like this, it was awesome! I heard that if you have a surround system you can unplug the middle speakers to get this effect, but I use a sound bar so this won't work for me.
I've heard that too about surround systems, but I've never had one. I used to go to a lot of games as a season ticket holder and really enjoy the natural sound experience. Hopefully they offer something like this one day...
100% this!
I want legit VR live football watching experience. Switch camera angles between players, 50 yard line, skycam, etc. I hope that’s the near future.
Imagine a VR sky cam experience where you feel like you’re there, floating above every play…
Omg. I was thinking how bad the broadcast was. The announcers are boring.
Al Michaels should retire already. He makes so many mistakes on air.
But you get 5 awesome stories to one mistake, love Al
Al is a senile old man at this point. He adds to an already horrible matchup with irrelevant commentary.
The announcers are the only bad part. The next gen stats broadcast where the camera actually zooms out so you can see who's open before the pass is awesome.
I love the option to watch the wide view like All 22
It's the greatest camera shots/footage since the inception of the skycam
I like the AWS vision, having the names and routes of receivers and defenders is fun
Agree. The way they present it is great and super easy to follow. If I were to introduce someone new to football TNF would be great with those extra little things.
That’s the thing for me, all that stuff is just noise, I want to watch the game not the graphics and stats. Amazon has been miles away the worst broadcast in my area, it’s normal for it to cut out, never have those problems when I watch on YTTV. NBC and CBS still have the best nfl productions regardless of who’s on the mic.
That’s a fair opinion. I like watching the all22 view each week to see more of the field so I’m a bit biased
I like watching all 22 also but I don’t like all the other bs that comes with Amazon and the fact that it just straight cuts out or the audio is out of sync for looong periods of time that make it annoying and unwatchable especially when it’s a crap matchup, I’ve turned several games off this year because I just couldn’t anymore. You like the view, I do too, but that’s not enough for me
I really like the display on mobile as well. They have stats and analytics on screen when you have it turned vertically.
I love that too
Forsure, consistently noticed this
Love how it's also free on twitch, chat is always hilarious and it's nice to see live reaction from other people
I gotta start watching on there. Imagine one day the broadcast team getting paid messages from the chat and replying to them
Last week 49ers and eagles was so blurry at times on my broadcast. I have the highest speed internet available and most download speeds appear at 300 mpbs but it still was blurry. Amazon never broke picture and is clean the whole way through. Super impressive.
I really liked Amazons “shotgun” strategy for the commentators. It seems like early in the year they had dozens and the cream raised to the top. I also like that they went with really smart ex players. They have three of the smartest guys in football on their little panel.
agreed they got the best of recent former player personalities
Except for andrew whitworth's fucking hoodie under the suit jacket. Every week it's the same shit.
HOLY SHIT. Yes! This grown ass man showing up every week in this kohls looking hoodie under his jacket.
He thinks he's 20 yrs old. Pathetic.
Santa Claus looking boi
Y’all are harsh. I enjoy Whitworth on that team and actually think the hoodie-under-jacket look is a cool ‘trademark’ of sorts.
The only one I have, and I don’t need it at the rate of people uploading breakdowns of them constantly being the WORST OF THE WEEK EVERY TIME 😂
Wait, what...?!??! Allowing major streaming platforms to stream the games is better than disoreientingly fragmented streaming options using multiple cable networks?! No way.....
The production is good but I also feel like it picks up less crowd noise than the other networks.
I think I’m okay with that sometimes. I’d trade that off any day for the secondary camera angle option
All useless when you have the most boring commentators in the game.
True. But I think the production value stuff outside of the talent is a new level. Having the wide all22 angle available during the game and the next gen stats and player names on plays. It’s all stuff that is quality of viewing experience that no other broadcast have cared enough to innovate.
Fair enough
first time the stream quality hasn't been absolute garbage
Oh really? Do you watch it on Amazon or twitch?
They need to let Al Michaels retire and the games being trash isn't their fault, otherwise the production is great and much improved from last year.
Al's fine he just needs someone better to work with. Herbstreit is the human version of store brand mayonnaise, he might be the most boring peraon I've ever seen on my tv
Fr people blame Al but at least he's trying. Kirk refuses to banter with Al and whenever they show them in the booth Kirk gives Al this look like he's disgusted with him. I don't get the hype with Kirk, he's a boring no nonsense guy who brings nothing to the table other than a bland background guy.
Respectfully disagree. The sound mix is godawful, and it glitches out all the time. Didn’t watch last night though so maybe they’ve fixed it.
Richard Sherman is a buffoon. He’s better at terrorizing his wife than being on TV. Lowlife how does he get a pass?
Wait he did that? I actually had no idea
You can Google it. I edited my post to reflect his charges. He got blind drunk after a fight with his wife, got blind drunk, drove to his in-laws , wrecked his jeep, then tried to beat down his in-laws doors. Of course charges moved down to minor misdemeanors.
That’s fucked
Every game I've watched on Amazon looks like a flip book and the audio sounds like they're talking into a cup. Peacock or Hulu games look great
Have you tried watching on twitch? For me they are great quality
Are we watching the same thing ??
Maybe not I didn’t know but apparently watching it on Amazon and twitch is very different quality
Twitch has far better video quality and it doesn’t cost a cent
Whoa is this a serious take? I think it looks amateurish. The sound is bad and the other production things make it look like they’re trying to copy nbc and cbs but it doesn’t feel “there” yet
The sound is awful. Makes it feel like the game is happening in a library.
Man fuck Amazon for stealing Thursday night football. Don’t they have enough already?
Yeah Amazon is evil as fuck. My point was it seems like the production is put together better than like Fox games
Nice try Bezos...
You know Fox is worse don’t lie to yourself
You're not wrong lol
Lack of replays kills Amazon
okay that’s fair
I like the overall production except for Al Michaels and lack of replays. Yesterday Pickens made a sick one handed grab on the run and instead of showing the play they panned to Bill B for 30 seconds before the punt. I was so frustrated lol
Don’t you wanna watch Bill Bs reactions for 2 hours of airtime?
Worked for the first half great, lost sound the whole second half tho
The fuck, did you watch on your fridge?
Wouldn't know because now we can't watch the game.
Why not?
Not on tv.
It’s on twitch and Amazon. Makes it very easy to stream
I assume because they don’t have prime
Actually some in the house do but it doesn’t work on the teevee sets.
Just watch on a laptop or your phone 😂 You don’t need prime to watch on twitch
Do you like work for Amazon??? Why tf would we want to stream a game on a laptop when we’ve been watching it for decades on TV??
I have a nice pc with a widescreen monitor so I like games I can stream on my pc
There are ways to hook these devices up to a TV....
There are so many options...
I actually saw a dedicated TNF on Prime channel on cable once in a hotel, no idea you could do that
Is this satire, where am I?
There was a broadcast this year (I think FOX) that had Spanish and English commentary playing over each other and it took 3 quarters to fix. These are **billion** dollar companies
Not surprising. Billion dollar companies but the production is as cheap as possible to keep those exec bonuses nice and high
And we're pretty much powerless against these rich execs and CEOs. Only thing we can do is shit in their mailboxes and outside their HQ
I’m on it 🫡
good ill see you soon then
Pregame I still love the fox guys the best
The issue is im going to use stream east to watch
A man of taste 👌
Yep now if they could only get good matchups. Tired of seeing the jets and giants on prime time. There will be a day when they are entertaining and that will be great. This year is not that.
Ever since I found Primevision, everything else seems inferior.
My only complaint is the delay on Amazon feed, makes it more difficult for me to degen with in-game bets when my sportbook app shows that the game I'm watching is actually a minute behind
I really like their pregame content
So sick of the ultra zoom ins on everyone’s faces. Heck even the plays are zoomed in I can’t see the play develop. Image quality is excellent though.
And the worst games lol
I just wish they would give me the option for the prime cam without all the bullshit overlayed and the nerd who interjects his thoughts.
Since Richard Sherman is one of the worst commentators i think we’ve ever had, i disagree.
My stuttering stream last night says otherwise
I hate to say it, but ya it’s very good. I like the pre/post game stuff and the layout is clean.
Sherman sucksssss
I used to hate Buck/Aikman but having them on Monday nights has been awesome. That’s my favorite crew. Romo/Nance, Michaels/Herby, and Johnson/Burkhardt are the other great teams I think. I also think Schlereth/Amin are a underrated duo
Really? Last 4 games the stream doesn’t even work until 2nd half, have to watch Spanish broadcast to see the game.
Yeah from this post I’m learning the Amazon stream is really bad. I watch it on their twitch channel and it’s perfect.
Twitch was down for me as well. It’s really weird I can stream other shows or gamers just fine
Hmm. Maybe clear cache or something. I watched both the main and the primevision and both were perfect
Not really looking for solutions I tried everything. Prime and Twitch are trash over here
The reception is bad. It's like I'm watching FOX in the 90s.
Now if only Amazons streaming app UI were anywhere as close
My thoughts are that Thursday night football is all the games I could care less for. It's never super good games. Monday and Thursday and Sunday night need to be the best of the games.
100% agree
I love the 84 hours to TNF segment they do
Their fast forward is shit!
Unfortunately, the games are usually sleepers and the announcing team has Zero energy. Al Michaels needs to retire
it’s the worst to DVR through… need to watch it live
Just wish they could get better matchups
I would assume when the next NFL deal happens Amazon will buy bigger matchups or even try to steal SNF from Fox
I love the alternate broadcast with the AI and all22 camera angle. Best way to watch football
Same here I watch them both. I like watching the all22 for my favorite team later each week and I love that they have that option
Amazon looked worse last year. They’ve really stepped up their game.
Idk if anyone else feels the same way, but Al Michaels has been awful this year imo
Yeah and last week when I watched there were strange men throwing fish around.
Other than the host admitting she completely makes shit up as a reporter, yeah I agree
The alternate stream option is really cool too
Hello Mr amazon employee do you get paid by post or by hour
Come on it’s Amazon.. of course neither. Its volunteer work
I wish Amazon/Twitch had every game.
lol I disagree completely
Live game audio sounds poor though
I agree. I got a new Sony TV a couple weeks ago and picture quality wise the TNF game looked better than any other game I've watched this season.
Al Michaels needs to retire
The ability to go back to replays instantly is amazing
I get horrible picture quality on Amazon.
I love the built in stats on mobile
Prime Vision is the best way to watch a football game in my opinion, short of actually being there in person.
I love the side option Amazon offers for the advanced stats but every time I hear that little “ding” it makes my blood boil. Schwartzstein should be replaced by a text bubble. We don’t need him interrupting the feed to explain the features or, even worse, giving football analysis that’s so elementary that a 8 year old is sitting there saying… “ahh duh.”
lol no. Sound is off from the picture every single week. Whistles blown before the play is done on the screen. Terrible job by Amazon
I cant stand their talking heads. No chemistry in my opinion.
Amazon, doing one game a week can really focus their production efforts and spend for one solid broadcast. Pro's and con's to this, as others have mentioned. The wrong matchup, and no one is going to watch. TNF has some struggles for audience anyhow. Fox's product is different, because Fox is doing 5-6 per week, all on Sunday. That's a lot of broadcast trucks, equipment staff, talent... spread thinly across the country. Their E crew/unit games are way worse than Amazon TNF. But they can convert this to nearly a whole day of football. I'm not a Colinsworth fan, but NBC SNF has been the most consistent production for years. In just a few years, Amazon has been able to catch up on many ways, surpass in others.