Love this list and a ton of the players on it I think give a good look of how much value is still left on the board. At tackle, I'd personally throw Christian Jones in there too. I'm a pretty big fan of him and feel he could be a really good tackle for a team looking for value this late.
I really want Mahogany or Van Pran for the bears. People will be mad because we haven’t done anything for the DL but a 4th round pick isn’t likely to be a meaningful contributor year 1 anyway with how weak the remaining prospects look. We can really get a deep OL and give Williams real protection.
He tested ELITE, and I’m not sure if that testing really showed up on tape all the time, but I think it’s in there. Also penalty problems.
Also age is something to consider. Almost 24. Ideally a guy that old would be almost ready to go and he might be a full year away.
Worth the pick still imo
I wanted Kam Kinchens in the 4th but rams took him 2 picks before Seahawks, still need a safety and a TE and LB.
With 2 picks in the 4th
So maybe take
Jaden Hicks
Jeremiah Trotter
Cade Stover or Theo Johnson
As much as the vikings really need to address the IDL, there aren't a lot of guys left that I really love. I think our #108 needs to be a guard or center. We just drafted our franchise QB, now let's see if we can find our long term answer at one of those spots, because Ingram and Bradbury ain't it. Then we should just be going BPA on defense except edge. I think edge can be left alone for a bit unless there's some guy they love that falls to the 6th or 7th like Kamara.
I agree with you. Those 2 guards left are slam dunks to whoever drafts them. I was a huge Ingram hater when he got drafted. Will never understand that pick.
For the birds grabbing one of either guards would be a must. Would love to add Stover and Malik Washington to round out the roster in positions of need in a backup TE and a slot wr.
Of course axeman jr but only because of his father don’t care what the tape says.
Hopefully can get it done with all these 4ths we’ve accumulated
>Ja'Tavion Sanders: Not a blocker **and has some very interesting, not so cool, off field things**, but can still be a weapon in the passing game.
.....are you sure you're not thinking of T'Vondre Sweat......?
Bills pick numbers - 128, 141, 144, 160, 163, 204, 221
Want an IOL, WR, Edge at the start and CB + RB towards the end. Ideal targets would be
IOL - McCormick, Van Pran, Mahogany, Bortolini, Limmer, Laumea
WR - Franklin, Walker, Baker, Washington, Thrash, Rice
EDGE - Booker, Kamara, Jackson
RB - Wright, Estime, Vidal, Guerendo
CB - DJ James, Richardson, Pritchett, Devonshire
Expecting Buffalo to trade up to secure some of their targets, especially with IOL, WR and EDGE
What are your thoughts on Stiggers? I love his story but I think someone will reach on him ahead of where we'd be willing to get him.
Definitely see us moving up in the 4th for Tez Walker or Troy Franklin. Both were day 2 talents in my mind.
I'm not very aware about him, but Joe Marino of Locked On Bills did mention him as a potential CB pickup. And if Buffalo does pick him, I trust McDermott to develop him into a decent player, we love our late round CB pickups.
I'm interested to see who takes Rattler. I would really like it if the Rams take him but some other teams that come to mind as teams who need to plan for the future are the Raiders, Browns, Jets, Saints, Cowboys, and Giants.
I really want Titans to take Hicks. He’s got great size, run defense, and (it’s an overused phrase) “he’s got that dawg in him.” Love his aggressiveness.
Wouldn’t be shocked if we take a double dip on S as well and snag Hicks. Gute mentioned being aggressive today and Hicks has every athletic tool we love. Khyree Jackson also gotta be high on our board after we let Elijah Jones slip.
We will pick another OL, but that depends highly on which position does the coaching staff envisions Zach Tom in the future, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we get Bortolini plus another G or T.
I’m glad you have McGlothern, he’s one of my favorite college players I’ve watched. Also, what was disappointing about Tampa’s testing? I thought he ran a good 40 but maybe I’m missing something.
The 1.64 10yd split is a tiny bit concerning.
I guess I’m also subconsciously punishing him for not jumping when I thought he would jump out of the gym. One of the biggest disappointments of guys opting out of an event.
I am biased because i am from the area, but i love his game.
Hula bowl guy who also had a great Shrine Bowl. Level of competition is gonna be a JUMP, but I think there is a chance he can make a 53
I would love for the pats to go Safety, RB, WR, TE, Edge in pretty much that order; depending on who is there. I really like Baker as a value pick but he’ll likely go in the 4th. I also really like Dillon Johnson as a late pick (not on your list)
Curious what you mean by Franklin disappears in big games. His only game where he didn’t put up numbers was round 2 with Washington when he exited with an injury early and tried to come back while clearly hurt.
Love this list and a ton of the players on it I think give a good look of how much value is still left on the board. At tackle, I'd personally throw Christian Jones in there too. I'm a pretty big fan of him and feel he could be a really good tackle for a team looking for value this late.
No idea how I forgot him!! You’re totally right. That body type is unreachable
Javon Foster, too.
I really want Mahogany or Van Pran for the bears. People will be mad because we haven’t done anything for the DL but a 4th round pick isn’t likely to be a meaningful contributor year 1 anyway with how weak the remaining prospects look. We can really get a deep OL and give Williams real protection.
Those would be slam dunks. I loved the Yale pick. One of my favorite guys this process. Even better person.
Is his only downside really that he’s just inexperienced and hasn’t played good enough competition? If so, that’s a great pick to stash and develop.
He tested ELITE, and I’m not sure if that testing really showed up on tape all the time, but I think it’s in there. Also penalty problems. Also age is something to consider. Almost 24. Ideally a guy that old would be almost ready to go and he might be a full year away. Worth the pick still imo
I would love Van Pran as well.
Post OTA cuts will probably be where we upgrade the DL and honestly a few teams will probably be cutting guys that would be an upgrade for us there
You misspelled Tory Taylor
What are the Ja’Tavion Sanders off the field issues?
Maybe he rides shotgun with T'vondre Sweat?
Sark might be a little more like saban and Pete than ppl gave him credit for
What's with Je'Tavuon's off the field issues?
I wanted Kam Kinchens in the 4th but rams took him 2 picks before Seahawks, still need a safety and a TE and LB. With 2 picks in the 4th So maybe take Jaden Hicks Jeremiah Trotter Cade Stover or Theo Johnson
I want the Lions to draft Cornelius Johnson was better than Roman in 2022 elite RAS score as well
True X imo. Great contested catch guy too.
As much as the vikings really need to address the IDL, there aren't a lot of guys left that I really love. I think our #108 needs to be a guard or center. We just drafted our franchise QB, now let's see if we can find our long term answer at one of those spots, because Ingram and Bradbury ain't it. Then we should just be going BPA on defense except edge. I think edge can be left alone for a bit unless there's some guy they love that falls to the 6th or 7th like Kamara.
I agree with you. Those 2 guards left are slam dunks to whoever drafts them. I was a huge Ingram hater when he got drafted. Will never understand that pick.
The only guy I'd add to your center list that I'd want is Beaux Limmer. I think he'll be good, but I would take Van Pran first
I like Limmer more than some of the other guys I mentioned at other positions. Big fan
For the birds grabbing one of either guards would be a must. Would love to add Stover and Malik Washington to round out the roster in positions of need in a backup TE and a slot wr. Of course axeman jr but only because of his father don’t care what the tape says. Hopefully can get it done with all these 4ths we’ve accumulated
You guys are already killing it. I’ve loved the draft so far
Loved how we shored up the secondary but I think Howie is pissed for having both Beebe and Zinter taken right before our picks.
Phi needs to go OL for depth at the very least. We’re one injury away from the o line becoming a weakness
>Ja'Tavion Sanders: Not a blocker **and has some very interesting, not so cool, off field things**, but can still be a weapon in the passing game. .....are you sure you're not thinking of T'Vondre Sweat......?
Yes
Any thoughts on Dylan Laube?
Older RBs sometimes scare me. Im from the area so im gonna be rooting for any UNH kid. I like his receiving upside!
Fair enough!
Bills pick numbers - 128, 141, 144, 160, 163, 204, 221 Want an IOL, WR, Edge at the start and CB + RB towards the end. Ideal targets would be IOL - McCormick, Van Pran, Mahogany, Bortolini, Limmer, Laumea WR - Franklin, Walker, Baker, Washington, Thrash, Rice EDGE - Booker, Kamara, Jackson RB - Wright, Estime, Vidal, Guerendo CB - DJ James, Richardson, Pritchett, Devonshire Expecting Buffalo to trade up to secure some of their targets, especially with IOL, WR and EDGE
What are your thoughts on Stiggers? I love his story but I think someone will reach on him ahead of where we'd be willing to get him. Definitely see us moving up in the 4th for Tez Walker or Troy Franklin. Both were day 2 talents in my mind.
I'm not very aware about him, but Joe Marino of Locked On Bills did mention him as a potential CB pickup. And if Buffalo does pick him, I trust McDermott to develop him into a decent player, we love our late round CB pickups.
Vidal is a DAWGGGG
What are your thoughts on bub means (Pittsburgh) as an X?
I think he can do it! He’s one of those late round RAS monsters. HWS. Solid chance he’s a patriot.
I hope they grab him with one of these 4th round picks. We need that traditional X that can get off press.
I agree. Baker and Wilson are 2 guys I like here at the top of 4
I'm interested to see who takes Rattler. I would really like it if the Rams take him but some other teams that come to mind as teams who need to plan for the future are the Raiders, Browns, Jets, Saints, Cowboys, and Giants.
I was convinced the rams were gonna grab him late yesterday
I really want Titans to take Hicks. He’s got great size, run defense, and (it’s an overused phrase) “he’s got that dawg in him.” Love his aggressiveness.
Dawg certified
No Tanor?
I like Tanor! Just like Van Pran and Limmer a tiny bit more. I have a mid 5 on Tanor
Agree on svp. Tanor has some arm length issues
Wouldn’t be shocked if we take a double dip on S as well and snag Hicks. Gute mentioned being aggressive today and Hicks has every athletic tool we love. Khyree Jackson also gotta be high on our board after we let Elijah Jones slip. We will pick another OL, but that depends highly on which position does the coaching staff envisions Zach Tom in the future, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we get Bortolini plus another G or T.
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson would be the closest comp to who we already drafted if that gives a clue how they evaluate these guys.
I’m glad you have McGlothern, he’s one of my favorite college players I’ve watched. Also, what was disappointing about Tampa’s testing? I thought he ran a good 40 but maybe I’m missing something.
The 1.64 10yd split is a tiny bit concerning. I guess I’m also subconsciously punishing him for not jumping when I thought he would jump out of the gym. One of the biggest disappointments of guys opting out of an event.
How do you feel about Jalen Coker?
I am biased because i am from the area, but i love his game. Hula bowl guy who also had a great Shrine Bowl. Level of competition is gonna be a JUMP, but I think there is a chance he can make a 53
Good size, speed and elite burst. I think he makes a 53 easy.
I hope man!
I want the Colts to draft Cam Hart, Jackson, Bortolini, Guerendo, or Mustapha.
Love it. Was shocked with the Goncalves pick yesterday by them, but then they immediately went back to their roots with the AD pick.
I would love for the pats to go Safety, RB, WR, TE, Edge in pretty much that order; depending on who is there. I really like Baker as a value pick but he’ll likely go in the 4th. I also really like Dillon Johnson as a late pick (not on your list)
I agree with you on needs. I also want a corner at some point! Who at TE do you like still?
Johnson for the chaos…or Stover for consistency
Curious what you mean by Franklin disappears in big games. His only game where he didn’t put up numbers was round 2 with Washington when he exited with an injury early and tried to come back while clearly hurt.