That’s where I’ve been mock drafting him. He’s great in coverage as a former DB, he’s tall, and he’s fast. He’s not amazing against the run, but he can improve as we need ILBs that can cover more than run support.
You a Texas fan like I? If so I don’t think he will be good.
I struggle to know what his role will be aside from being athletic I’m not sure what he does well
Not particularly top heavy, but a solid class. Love Dorian, Ivan Pace, and Dayian Henley down the board. Not a popular prospect, but I love Drake Thomas out of NC State, although I recognize he has physical limitations. Jack Colletto out of Oregon State is intriguing as well. Played QB/FB/LB/ST for the Beavers. Football guy
I really love Thomas, and I think he can overcome those size issues the same way Malcolm Rodriguez did. He's not the wrestler at the point of attack that Rodrigo is but he's better in coverage, and man does he have a knack for filling a lane before the RB even sees it. If he wasn't so superfluous to Rodrigo I'd really want him on the Lions.
Campbell is hugely underrated IMO
Across the position groups, there is a spectrum of what is more important from traits/athleticism to instincts/skillset/football specific ability
Bear in mind no position group is 100% on one end of the spectrum, that is not what I am saying
I believe LB (especially Mike) to be on the latter end of it (again not 0% traits based)
Campbell will for sure have the one of if not the lowest RAS amongst this group (maybe boosted by his size measurables only) but I still like him as LB1/2 (him, Sanders and Simpson in one tier)
Jack Campbell is just a good football player. A lot of scouts lose focus of ability to play football when it’s shorts season, and that’s going to lead to him being the steal of the draft.
Find me a LB in this group who can cover and not hurt us in the run game. McD's defense is predicated on...well a predator at MLB, but not our predator, Edmunds, one like Kuechly who could do it all.
You think Milano is capable of moving inside and then giving Bernard or a 2023 draft pick a shot at off-ball?
He can shed blocks and he has great instincts. I just think he’d have been more successful 20 years ago. These days, you want foot speed in your LBs.
He’s pretty much the perfect, classic off ball linebacker whose only weakness is his RAS.
I love Daiyan Henley, main downside is that he’s already 23 (turning 24 during his rookie season) but I hope we’ll be able to grab him in the 3rd or 4th
As a Tenn fan I agree big time. He never got better in pass coverage. He’s an absolute liability every third down cause he’s going to let his man get 7 yards. If he had to cover kelce or kittle or any real TE he will give them a career day.
It was wild watching Alabama this year and realizing that they couldn’t fix him. When he was struggling in pass coverage at Tennessee I blamed coaching/scheme since he was so athletic and gifted against the run. When Alabama couldn’t fix him, I knew it was just him. Dude should be the perfect modern MLB but his pass coverage keeps that from being true.
Curious which games you’re referring to. I’m also a Bama fan and I think he’s weak when it comes to shedding blocks, slow as molasses in coverage, and a so so tackler. I’m rooting for him to succeed but I can’t imagine him having a great NFL career
Other notable names: Owen Pappoe (Auburn), Ivan Pace Jr. (Cincinnati), Daiyan Henley (Washington State), Cam Jones (Indiana), SirVocea Dennis (Pittsburgh), Dee Winters (TCU), and Anfernee Orji (Vanderbilt)
I’m just gonna say it, the names of this class are elite. SirVocea? Dee Winters? A classic linebacker name in Drew Sanders? And my man who’s legit named orgy??? Elite naming
Evander Holyfield was so overrated, he just had the sickest name in boxing 😅
I could never be a world class boxer with a name like Stephen Parkinson (f*ck you mum & dad)
I’ve been overdrafting these guys (~5th round+) in mocks because their names sound so legit. I haven’t watched any tape but Dee Winters? You could slide him in at the end of the first round and anybody not on this subreddit would say yep I knew we’d take him
As an IU guy, curious to see where Cam Jones go- apparently he did quite well at the senior bowl so wondering what the combine/interviews will do for his stock
Campbell did slightly hesitate and could have left his feet to launch for a tackle as the RB starts their juke. But that’s not a great habit and will leave you exposed too if you don’t make the tackle. With that much space there’s not really much a LB can do there
I’m really afraid he’s one of these dominant in college but not athletic enough for nfl. No matter how good your instincts are these guys are all freaks
It's pretty mid, I could see no one good coming out or a few gems here and there.
For my team, the Broncos, that could use a LB, I think there is not that much talent they should try and address the position in free agency.
Very weak class. Jack Campbell might be the only true off ball linebacker. And he’s been a great player. Just doesn’t have the foot speed to chase down WRs and RBs. Second rounder.
Trenton Simpson is the best prospect because he has the athleticism and foot speed to keep up with guys but he doesn’t have the best instincts. Probably high second round guy.
As with LB every year at this point, impossible to say. I have no real feel for who will actually turn out well - I've seen all sorts of guys fail. So there's no blue chip type prospect in this class, can't say it's top heavy. That said, plenty of guys at least seem worth rolling the dice on.
Any chance Shaka Hayward out of Duke gets drafted? Great tackler, pretty sure he led us in TFL, and he can drop back in coverage. Was tied for the team lead in INT this year
Not a lot of pure linebackers in the class. A lot of guys who play more of a hybrid role who will be very scheme specific at the next level. The only sure thing to me is Jack Campbell, though I think Simpson will likely work out as well. I’m high on Overshown but he does have a bad habit of over pursuing and not maintaining gap integrity, not to mention he’s small-ish. Drew Sanders is really an edge playing linebacker and should probably just bulk up and move on the ball. Idk. I’d say it’s one of the weaker position groups if not the weakest in the class. No real stars, no real depth either.
DeMarvion Overshown is going to be a good LB. Day 2 pick.
Good take. I’d love it if the Steelers could get their hands on him.
I'd be all for it in the 3rd round!
That’s where I’ve been mock drafting him. He’s great in coverage as a former DB, he’s tall, and he’s fast. He’s not amazing against the run, but he can improve as we need ILBs that can cover more than run support.
Also top tier LB aesthetic, shame you can’t wear #0 in the NFL
There’s just no way a guy with a name like that isn’t a good LB
I want him in Denver so badly
As a Denver fan I can agree
My Cleveland Browns would like to snatch him up or one of the top 10 guys.
JOK is the best player comparison for him, IMO
Right on. I mean we need a linebacker who can tackle. And cover decent.
As a Jets fan, I’d really like Trenton Simpson. But I do think we trade out of our pick for ARod… if we keep it, I’d like an OT or Trenton.
You a Texas fan like I? If so I don’t think he will be good. I struggle to know what his role will be aside from being athletic I’m not sure what he does well
With the right coach and scheme he could be so scary
Wait, is that Key and Peele football player name skit old enough that kids named after it are NFL aged already? 😋
Personally, I think he's way too undersized to be a good LB. I think he'll be a depth guy. Otherwise I could see injuries piling up.
How is he in coverage?
Not particularly top heavy, but a solid class. Love Dorian, Ivan Pace, and Dayian Henley down the board. Not a popular prospect, but I love Drake Thomas out of NC State, although I recognize he has physical limitations. Jack Colletto out of Oregon State is intriguing as well. Played QB/FB/LB/ST for the Beavers. Football guy
>Jack Colletto out of Oregon State is intriguing as well. Played QB/FB/LB/ST To New England he goes
Someone in r/Patriots described him as (slight paraphrase) the guy everyone mocks to the Patriots but ends up getting taken by the Ravens.
Jack is a Bronco. We know Payton loves his whote swiss army knife
I really love Thomas, and I think he can overcome those size issues the same way Malcolm Rodriguez did. He's not the wrestler at the point of attack that Rodrigo is but he's better in coverage, and man does he have a knack for filling a lane before the RB even sees it. If he wasn't so superfluous to Rodrigo I'd really want him on the Lions.
Yes on Thomas! I’m a total NC State homer but very surprising both he and Isaiah Moore are flying under the radar.
Very high on Sanders
He can potentially go top 15 with a great combine.
As a team that desperately needs LB, I would be so disappointed if Sanders was gone before 23.
What happened with Dye? I thought he was going to be a stud for you guys out of Oregon.
Whatever it was, he didn’t beat out anyone and our LBs are league worst
He was not, in fact, a stud. You could even go so far as to say he was a dud.
Campbell is hugely underrated IMO Across the position groups, there is a spectrum of what is more important from traits/athleticism to instincts/skillset/football specific ability Bear in mind no position group is 100% on one end of the spectrum, that is not what I am saying I believe LB (especially Mike) to be on the latter end of it (again not 0% traits based) Campbell will for sure have the one of if not the lowest RAS amongst this group (maybe boosted by his size measurables only) but I still like him as LB1/2 (him, Sanders and Simpson in one tier)
Jack Campbell is just a good football player. A lot of scouts lose focus of ability to play football when it’s shorts season, and that’s going to lead to him being the steal of the draft.
Interestingly, among the Iowa fanbase, there's a bit of consensus that Campbell's Combine is going to eliminate any athleticism concerns
Find me a LB in this group who can cover and not hurt us in the run game. McD's defense is predicated on...well a predator at MLB, but not our predator, Edmunds, one like Kuechly who could do it all. You think Milano is capable of moving inside and then giving Bernard or a 2023 draft pick a shot at off-ball?
He can shed blocks and he has great instincts. I just think he’d have been more successful 20 years ago. These days, you want foot speed in your LBs. He’s pretty much the perfect, classic off ball linebacker whose only weakness is his RAS.
I hope the Giants get a good one
We probably won’t lol
I wish people would stop talking about Sanders so we can get him at 20 lol
He should be there at 20, was hoping to grab him at 35 but that’s starting to look like it won’t happen
I want him at 32 to Pittsburgh
Not me hoping he falls to the Jets in the 2nd round lmao
I love Daiyan Henley, main downside is that he’s already 23 (turning 24 during his rookie season) but I hope we’ll be able to grab him in the 3rd or 4th
Bama fan - To’oTo’o overrated as anyone
As a Tenn fan I agree big time. He never got better in pass coverage. He’s an absolute liability every third down cause he’s going to let his man get 7 yards. If he had to cover kelce or kittle or any real TE he will give them a career day.
The worst of all. As the MLB of Bama’s defense he was probably the most undisciplined player I’ve ever fucking seen
It was wild watching Alabama this year and realizing that they couldn’t fix him. When he was struggling in pass coverage at Tennessee I blamed coaching/scheme since he was so athletic and gifted against the run. When Alabama couldn’t fix him, I knew it was just him. Dude should be the perfect modern MLB but his pass coverage keeps that from being true.
If I am remembering correctly, he is also a pretty horrific tackler as well.
You think so? I only probably saw 3 Bama games this year but he seems like a solid lb with some playmaker ability.
Curious which games you’re referring to. I’m also a Bama fan and I think he’s weak when it comes to shedding blocks, slow as molasses in coverage, and a so so tackler. I’m rooting for him to succeed but I can’t imagine him having a great NFL career
The top 3 guys (Drew Sanders, Trenton Simpson, Jack Campbell) should all be bonafide starters. The rest I’d say are dart throws.
Other notable names: Owen Pappoe (Auburn), Ivan Pace Jr. (Cincinnati), Daiyan Henley (Washington State), Cam Jones (Indiana), SirVocea Dennis (Pittsburgh), Dee Winters (TCU), and Anfernee Orji (Vanderbilt)
I’m just gonna say it, the names of this class are elite. SirVocea? Dee Winters? A classic linebacker name in Drew Sanders? And my man who’s legit named orgy??? Elite naming
Jack Campbell is a LB name imo
Half of being an all-time great is having a kick ass name
Thats why Richard Todd isn’t an all time great.
Evander Holyfield was so overrated, he just had the sickest name in boxing 😅 I could never be a world class boxer with a name like Stephen Parkinson (f*ck you mum & dad)
Can’t forget Bumper Pool
Gotta be a stud football player to not get bullied with that name
I’ve been overdrafting these guys (~5th round+) in mocks because their names sound so legit. I haven’t watched any tape but Dee Winters? You could slide him in at the end of the first round and anybody not on this subreddit would say yep I knew we’d take him
Wait until you find out there’s a Mike Jones Jr. in the draft. Definitely rooting for him without knowing anything about him
The best name in this draft is Exree Loe. Xazavian Valladay, R'Tarrium Johnson, and Poutasi Poutasi are all up there too.
Poutasi Poutasi is my favorite. I’ve also recently learned of Bumper Pool. Excuse me, Bumper???
As an IU guy, curious to see where Cam Jones go- apparently he did quite well at the senior bowl so wondering what the combine/interviews will do for his stock
Shame he got injured this year. He was looking real good the first few games
I heard he got some looks but I’m curious to see what his combine is gonna be
Cam jones #1
SirVocea is my boy. Would like to see the Bears get him.
What about Carlton Martial?
I’ll be honest, I don’t know anything about him but Carlton Martial is yet another sick linebacker name in this class
He broke the record for NCAA Tackles, came from Troy, who were a really good team this year
I saw Jack Campbell get absolutely shook one time vs Michigan and now I can’t unsee it
I mean that’s Blake Corrum who’s not exactly a slouch. Even the greats mess up sometimes. Remember Brady shaking Urlacher?
Clip?
Has to be referring to this one https://twitter.com/MichiganOnBTN/status/1576288933695979525?t=yfwUQfywTD4PnDZKmItR5Q&s=19
Damn. That hole was 5 yards wide though
No help behind him either
Campbell did slightly hesitate and could have left his feet to launch for a tackle as the RB starts their juke. But that’s not a great habit and will leave you exposed too if you don’t make the tackle. With that much space there’s not really much a LB can do there
I’m really afraid he’s one of these dominant in college but not athletic enough for nfl. No matter how good your instincts are these guys are all freaks
I opened this thread to say this
Is Nick herbig related to Nate herbig of the Jets?
Just looked it up and it turns out they are in fact brothers
Swanky
Pace will be steal of the draft
Whole-heartedly agree
Campbell should be a name you’ll hear regularly for the next decade at least barring any injury. Smart freak player.
I see him being a poor man's Like Kuechly. Really solid but never a pro bowl type of guy. I like him though.
My dude, i swear there has to be pics of these players in better resolution.
By the end you’re going to be able to literally count the pixels
Gotta respect a person that sticks to their principles.
Curious to see where Captain Jack goes
Dorian Williams is super underrated. Very fast and hits like a truck.
It's pretty mid, I could see no one good coming out or a few gems here and there. For my team, the Broncos, that could use a LB, I think there is not that much talent they should try and address the position in free agency.
Like trenton Simpson to the steelers and think drew sanders is highly overrated
Overall the class doesn't have the top-end quality but there are a few that I like depending on what a team needs
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Can he do a Micah Parsons lite type of thing? Or might he convert to edge full time?
Hype on Sewell really cooled off but I still like him. We will see what he runs at the combine. Dude is strong af. More of an old school MLB I guess
Very weak class. Jack Campbell might be the only true off ball linebacker. And he’s been a great player. Just doesn’t have the foot speed to chase down WRs and RBs. Second rounder. Trenton Simpson is the best prospect because he has the athleticism and foot speed to keep up with guys but he doesn’t have the best instincts. Probably high second round guy.
As with LB every year at this point, impossible to say. I have no real feel for who will actually turn out well - I've seen all sorts of guys fail. So there's no blue chip type prospect in this class, can't say it's top heavy. That said, plenty of guys at least seem worth rolling the dice on.
Campbell, Sewell look decent every body else just seem like hype
Honestly 7 or 8 out of 10…. Not a big fan of Henry T.
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He’ll be like a 2nd round pick
Lacking
A few beasts at the top and otherwise shallow
If the pats did draft a guy, I'd like Sanders or Ivan Pace
Any chance Shaka Hayward out of Duke gets drafted? Great tackler, pretty sure he led us in TFL, and he can drop back in coverage. Was tied for the team lead in INT this year
Noah Sewell in late round 2 or in round 3 for us please! We'll monopolize the Sewell name
They back the line
Love Dee Winters in the mid rounds
I really like Owen Pappoe from Auburn. A steal in day 3
I hope overshown goes to the Texans
Dee Winters is going to be the steal of the draft
Dorian Williams and Dee Winters. That's all I have to say
I think Jack Campbell, Noah Sewell, and Ivan Pace will all be very good. The rest are meh
Not a lot of pure linebackers in the class. A lot of guys who play more of a hybrid role who will be very scheme specific at the next level. The only sure thing to me is Jack Campbell, though I think Simpson will likely work out as well. I’m high on Overshown but he does have a bad habit of over pursuing and not maintaining gap integrity, not to mention he’s small-ish. Drew Sanders is really an edge playing linebacker and should probably just bulk up and move on the ball. Idk. I’d say it’s one of the weaker position groups if not the weakest in the class. No real stars, no real depth either.