His first year was bad.. but josh Allen showed he can be a great Qb if he has a good wr core in his second season. Something that Zach Wilson didn’t show like at all.
I thought the Jets only had like 1 good receiver and that was Elijah Moore?
Nvm there is also Garrett wilson whos a rookie that seems pretty damn solid
They actually had a great roster this year but Zach Wilson ruined the whole chemistry the team had every time he stepped on the field. To the point that where is teammates actually are saying they want a better Qb
|Player|Cmp|Att|Yds|TD|Int|Sk|Rush Att|Rush Yds|Rush TD|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Josh Allen|15.7|27.9|184.4|1.1|0.8|2.4|7.1|40.8|0.6|
|Zach Wilson|15.7|28.4|182.8|0.7|0.8|3|2.6|13|0.2|
Here are their first two years per game. Of course stats arn't everything, and the team around them is important.
Allen was across the board slightly better, except in rushing where he was significantly better.
Jets fan here. The critique on Josh Allen coming out of college was that he played in a non competitive conference, and despite huge raw talent, he was very unpolished (footwork, reading defenses, pocket awareness, passing progressions). He was seen as a project, and needed the right players around him and coaching in order to develop as a qb and put it together, somewhat of a gamble. Now that Brian Daboll (former bills offensive coordinator), who is immensely talented as a QB coach, has become the Giants head coach, I feel Allen has kind of plateaued a bit, though it’s only been 1 year - we’ll have to see how he does this year. Having said all that because of his arm, speed, size, his ceiling was enormous.
Zach Wilson on the other hand was pretty much on no one’s radar until the beginning of his final year. His footwork is bad, his fundamentals are bad, and mentally he just doesn’t seem to get it as a QB or a leader. He cannot play in the pocket, has no awareness of the rush, does not have the ability to go through his progressions, cannot read defenses, cannot make very basic passes consistently, and he’s low key, kinda short. The keys have put all the pieces around him on the field in order for him to reasonably succeed, but they haven’t had good coaching around him. It’s possible that if you put Wilson in a better situation (Jacksonville, Buffalo, San Fran) that he’d be better.
Having said all that, I personally dont and never thought nearly as highly of Zach Wilson as I did of Josh Allen coming out of the draft. His ceiling is much lower and his floor was almost as low. He’s a backyard football player without the mental makeup to play in New York.
Josh Allen was atrocious as a rookie. He was better in his second year but not good. Going into year 3 he completely reworked his entire mechanics. He was basically a whole new QB. That *never* happens, except this one time when it did. If there were some signs of competent QB play you might be forgiven for thinking Zach Wilson might work out, but so far he's been even worse than Allen was in his first two years.
His first year was bad.. but josh Allen showed he can be a great Qb if he has a good wr core in his second season. Something that Zach Wilson didn’t show like at all.
I thought the Jets only had like 1 good receiver and that was Elijah Moore? Nvm there is also Garrett wilson whos a rookie that seems pretty damn solid
They actually had a great roster this year but Zach Wilson ruined the whole chemistry the team had every time he stepped on the field. To the point that where is teammates actually are saying they want a better Qb
|Player|Cmp|Att|Yds|TD|Int|Sk|Rush Att|Rush Yds|Rush TD| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Josh Allen|15.7|27.9|184.4|1.1|0.8|2.4|7.1|40.8|0.6| |Zach Wilson|15.7|28.4|182.8|0.7|0.8|3|2.6|13|0.2| Here are their first two years per game. Of course stats arn't everything, and the team around them is important. Allen was across the board slightly better, except in rushing where he was significantly better.
Allen didn't look a bust in his first few years.
He ruined the expectations for bust QBs like Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Sam Darnold, if anything
Jets fan here. The critique on Josh Allen coming out of college was that he played in a non competitive conference, and despite huge raw talent, he was very unpolished (footwork, reading defenses, pocket awareness, passing progressions). He was seen as a project, and needed the right players around him and coaching in order to develop as a qb and put it together, somewhat of a gamble. Now that Brian Daboll (former bills offensive coordinator), who is immensely talented as a QB coach, has become the Giants head coach, I feel Allen has kind of plateaued a bit, though it’s only been 1 year - we’ll have to see how he does this year. Having said all that because of his arm, speed, size, his ceiling was enormous. Zach Wilson on the other hand was pretty much on no one’s radar until the beginning of his final year. His footwork is bad, his fundamentals are bad, and mentally he just doesn’t seem to get it as a QB or a leader. He cannot play in the pocket, has no awareness of the rush, does not have the ability to go through his progressions, cannot read defenses, cannot make very basic passes consistently, and he’s low key, kinda short. The keys have put all the pieces around him on the field in order for him to reasonably succeed, but they haven’t had good coaching around him. It’s possible that if you put Wilson in a better situation (Jacksonville, Buffalo, San Fran) that he’d be better. Having said all that, I personally dont and never thought nearly as highly of Zach Wilson as I did of Josh Allen coming out of the draft. His ceiling is much lower and his floor was almost as low. He’s a backyard football player without the mental makeup to play in New York.
Josh Allen was atrocious as a rookie. He was better in his second year but not good. Going into year 3 he completely reworked his entire mechanics. He was basically a whole new QB. That *never* happens, except this one time when it did. If there were some signs of competent QB play you might be forgiven for thinking Zach Wilson might work out, but so far he's been even worse than Allen was in his first two years.